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06:21:31 topic changed by ChanServ to "Ask questions about Instantbird here. Official website: http://www.instantbird.com. Latest release: 0.2a1. Read http://blog.instantbird.org/. Nightlies: http://ftp.instantbird.com/instantbird/nightly/latest-trunk/ (testing purpose only), IRC logs: http://log.bezut.info/."
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06:27:49 topic changed by sand.mozilla.org to "Ask questions about Instantbird here. Official website: http://www.instantbird.com. Latest release: 0.2a1. Read http://blog.instantbird.org/. Nightlies: http://ftp.instantbird.com/instantbird/nightly/latest-trunk/ (testing purpose only), IRC logs: http://log.bezut.info/."
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08:30:36 <Troy> Good morning
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12:37:15 <Mic> good day
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13:22:13 <Mic> flo, morian: is the "network:offline-status-changed" event of any actual use? I couldn't find a place from where it is dispatched
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13:35:16 <Morian> Mic: it is used and  should be used somewhere else
13:35:20 <Morian> used in the account manager, to disable the "connect" buttons for example
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13:35:24 <Morian> and should be used in c++ somewhere to fix a bug about sleeping mode of laptops
13:35:25 <instantbot> c++ is evil
13:36:05 <Mic> Sure I found the observer in the account manager
13:36:21 <Morian> ... I thought I forbid him to say that c++ is evil ...
13:36:22 <Mic> But lxr didn't bring up any results when looking for it
13:36:39 <Morian> lxr is -still- not up to date
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13:43:44 <Chaz6> 14 accounts, 45MB, not bad :)
13:49:25 <flo> Morian: how so?
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13:50:09 <flo> Mic: "network:offline-status-changed" is dispatched from necko (the network module of Mozilla)
13:50:37 <Mic> ah, ok :)
13:50:56 <flo> that notification is dispatched after the status changed, so if you go to offline it's already too late to do something with the connection
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13:51:28 <flo> I think there's another notification (called something like "about-to-go-offline" that could be used to disconnect accounts when a laptop is going to sleep).
13:52:02 <Mic> I was wondering whether there is also account-disconnecting/disconnected or such sent when this event occurs
13:52:29 <flo> I think we have that, yes
13:52:52 <Mic> ok ..
13:52:55 <flo> account-disconnected and account-disconnecting
13:53:08 <Mic> Let's see
13:53:16 <flo> fired from: http://lxr.instantbird.org/instantbird/source/purple/purplexpcom/src/purpleInit.cpp#419
13:53:54 <Mic> (since a disabled network connection should deactivate the means to connect an account imo)
13:54:37 <Mic> Ah, I've seen this before and wasn't sure what's happening here
13:55:02 <flo> Mic: we already do that
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13:55:28 <flo> that's what Morian said about the "Connect" buttons that are disabled in the account manager
13:55:30 <Mic> I was thinking about the quick access ..
13:55:37 <flo> ah! :)
13:56:20 <flo> it's a bit different for the quick access
13:56:27 <flo> there's no "Connect" button that is visible
13:56:49 <flo> so you can just fetch the current offline status when the menu pops up
13:56:52 <Mic> I need to think how to visualize this
13:57:04 <flo> hmm, well, disabling the menu item while it's already opened may be a good idea too
13:57:28 <Morian> flo: remember that we have failed trying to do this in the account manager
13:57:32 <Morian> :(
13:57:39 <Mic> Maybe a message where connected/error was in the mockup
13:57:53 <Mic> saying 'Network disconnected' or so
13:58:03 <Mic> let's see
13:59:58 <Mic> Morian: so observing the event and in case it occurs changing UI elements does not work?
14:00:29 <Morian> it does not change the popup menu already poped, but will work on the next one of course
14:01:02 <flo> Morian: I don't remember :(
14:01:03 <Morian> I tried to have this behavior in the context menu of the account manager and it wasn't working at all
14:01:20 <Morian> but it could be a bug related to xulrunner which is now fixed
14:01:28 <flo> is it only on some specific OSes or on all OSes that the "disabled" state is not updated on the menuitems?
14:01:48 <Morian> don't remember, but at least on linux :p
14:02:31 <Morian> windows too
14:02:38 <Morian> this is very easy to reproduce in facts ...
14:02:50 <Morian> just connect an account with enter and right click
14:03:15 <Morian> "disconnect" is disabled, but never enables back until you pop out a new context menu
14:04:57 <Morian> there my (should?) be a other way to update the context menu, but I haven't found it / searched for it
14:08:17 <flo> did we check if this was the broadcaster that failed, or any way to put a disabled attribute on the menuitem that has no effect?
14:08:58 <Morian> as far as I remember I had checked with a direct attribute on the menuitem
14:09:26 <Morian> so the broadcaster is out of suspicion :p
14:09:44 <Mic> bbl
14:29:29 <flo> brb
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16:09:46 <DGMurdockIII> hi
16:10:03 <rbezut> hi
16:10:17 <DGMurdockIII> what do you guys think of a iphone verson of instantbird
16:11:27 <rbezut> won't be accepter by apple anyway :p
16:11:32 <rbezut> accepted *
16:12:20 <DGMurdockIII> why not there are other multi im app allready on the app store
16:12:47 <rbezut> is there any Mozilla based application on iphone ?
16:13:49 <flo> DGMurdockIII: having an interpreter is forbidden by the Apple license. So no JS engine...
16:14:28 <DGMurdockIII> what do you mean interpreter
16:14:42 <rbezut> "not compiled code"
16:15:06 <DGMurdockIII> oh
16:15:39 <DGMurdockIII> well it was a worth a shot
16:15:57 <DGMurdockIII> but anyway flo how is the windows installer comming along
16:16:37 <flo> screenshots of the work in progress: http://queze.net/goinfre/installer/
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16:31:39 <DGMurdockIII> instantbird crased again dont now why
16:32:58 <Morian> right now ?
16:33:02 <DGMurdockIII> yep
16:33:13 <DGMurdockIII> just sent the crash report
16:33:31 <Morian> ok
16:34:00 <DGMurdockIII> opps sorry it was songbitf that crashed
16:34:05 <DGMurdockIII> songbird
16:35:12 <DGMurdockIII> 2(flo2): when do you think you will have a installer ready to test
16:35:25 <flo> later :)
16:35:32 <DGMurdockIII> today?
16:35:34 <flo> no
16:56:01 <DGMurdockIII> about a iphone verson of instantbird can you make sothing that complies with appples license I would pay for a iphone verson of instantbird
17:05:33 <Morian> we can negotiate if you want to pay $1 million, otherwise I don't think it will be possible :)
17:16:29 <DGMurdockIII> 1 million?
17:31:02 <flo> DGMurdockIII: no. We can't until there's an iPhone version of Firefox.
17:31:14 <DGMurdockIII> ok
17:32:50 <DGMurdockIII> is it possabe to add the future that msn has where you can change your nick name and it not just changing your local alias
17:33:10 <DGMurdockIII> pidgin has it as well
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18:13:13 <Troy> hi
18:14:32 <DGMurdockIII> hi
18:14:39 <DGMurdockIII> troy how are you
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19:39:22 <Troy> good
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