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00:49:03 --> Morian_ has joined #instantbird 00:50:28 <-- Morian has quit (Ping timeout) 00:53:27 * Morian_ is now known as Morian 01:07:59 --> Morian_ has joined #instantbird 01:08:25 <-- rbezut has quit (Ping timeout) 01:09:27 --> rbezut has joined #instantbird 01:09:27 <-- Morian has quit (Ping timeout) 01:09:33 * Morian_ is now known as Morian 01:12:09 --> Morian_ has joined #instantbird 01:12:11 --> rbezut1 has joined #instantbird 01:12:27 <-- rbezut has quit (Ping timeout) 01:12:39 * rbezut1 is now known as rbezut 01:13:30 <-- Morian has quit (Ping timeout) 01:13:31 * Morian_ is now known as Morian 02:50:41 <Morian> ah, mozilla is upgrading bugzilla to version 3.4.3 :) 02:51:04 <Morian> there are a lot of cool changes! 03:12:41 * MattATobin is now known as BinaryOutcast 03:55:38 --> instantbot has joined #instantbird 03:55:38 topic changed by sand.mozilla.org to "Ask questions about Instantbird here. Official website: http://www.instantbird.com. Latest release: 0.2a1. Read http://blog.instantbird.org/. Nightlies: http://ftp.instantbird.com/instantbird/nightly/latest-trunk/ (testing purpose only), IRC logs: http://log.bezut.info/." 03:55:38 * ChanServ sets mode +v instantbot 03:56:49 --> rbezut has joined #instantbird 03:56:56 <-- Morian has quit (Ping timeout) 03:56:57 * Morian_ is now known as Morian 04:04:41 --> instantbot has joined #instantbird 04:04:41 topic changed by sand.mozilla.org to "Ask questions about Instantbird here. Official website: http://www.instantbird.com. Latest release: 0.2a1. Read http://blog.instantbird.org/. Nightlies: http://ftp.instantbird.com/instantbird/nightly/latest-trunk/ (testing purpose only), IRC logs: http://log.bezut.info/." 04:04:41 * ChanServ sets mode +v instantbot 04:04:58 --> Morian has joined #instantbird 04:06:44 --> rbezut has joined #instantbird 05:05:52 --> DGMurdockIII has joined #instantbird 05:06:17 <DGMurdockIII> im still having truble with google talk 05:06:20 <DGMurdockIII> guys 05:06:30 <DGMurdockIII> please take a look at it 05:09:20 --> Morian_ has joined #instantbird 05:10:47 <-- Morian has quit (Ping timeout) 07:08:15 --> Morian has joined #instantbird 07:08:29 --> rbezut1 has joined #instantbird 07:09:14 <-- rbezut has quit (Ping timeout) 07:10:03 <-- Morian_ has quit (Ping timeout) 07:45:27 <-- flo has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.2b1pre) 07:45:29 <-- rbezut1 has quit (Ping timeout) 07:45:33 --> Morian_ has joined #instantbird 07:46:30 --> rbezut has joined #instantbird 07:46:47 <-- Morian has quit (Ping timeout) 08:09:29 --> instantbot has joined #instantbird 08:09:29 topic changed by sand.mozilla.org to "Ask questions about Instantbird here. Official website: http://www.instantbird.com. Latest release: 0.2a1. Read http://blog.instantbird.org/. Nightlies: http://ftp.instantbird.com/instantbird/nightly/latest-trunk/ (testing purpose only), IRC logs: http://log.bezut.info/." 08:10:37 <-- Even has quit (Ping timeout) 08:11:03 <-- Morian_ has quit (sand.mozilla.org gravel.mozilla.org) 08:11:37 <-- Chaz6 has quit (Ping timeout) 08:11:45 --> Even has joined #instantbird 08:12:11 --> Chaz6 has joined #instantbird 08:12:32 --> Morian_ has joined #instantbird 08:15:41 <-- Morian_ has quit (sand.mozilla.org gravel.mozilla.org) 08:17:24 --> Morian_ has joined #instantbird 08:57:10 --> Troy has joined #instantbird 08:57:22 <Troy> hi 08:58:13 <Troy> After today's update Instantbird startup and an error message "Instantbird encountered an error during start-up and must close, we apologize for the inconvenience. 08:58:13 <Troy> Description: XPCOM registration of the purplexpcom component failed. " 08:58:21 <Troy> What's this? 09:02:52 <-- Troy has left #instantbird () 09:35:55 --> flo has joined #instantbird 09:35:55 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo flo 09:37:38 <flo> hi 09:37:52 <flo> do not update to today's nightly. It does not start at all! 09:48:54 <Chaz6> There's been one unhappy customer in this morning already, I didn't update yet thankfully 09:51:39 * BinaryOutcast is now known as MattATobin 09:52:14 <flo> who was the unhappy customer? 09:52:35 <MattATobin> mornin flo 09:52:52 <flo> ah, Troy 09:54:01 * MattATobin <--- happy customer, tho i dunno if i can be considerd a customer since its free software... i love taking things out of context its fun to speculate on what one line of text means 09:54:26 <flo> don't check for updates today ;) 09:54:49 * MattATobin scrolls back 09:55:31 <MattATobin> someone broke xpcom? 09:56:14 <flo> I think that's from: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=519357 09:57:26 * flo is trying to change that error message so that instead of "Instantbird cannot start, sorry", it becomes "Instantbird cannot start, would you like to check for updates?" 09:59:40 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 10:00:16 topic changed by flo to "Ask questions about Instantbird here. Official website: http://www.instantbird.com. Latest release: 0.2a1. Read http://blog.instantbird.org/. Nightlies: http://ftp.instantbird.com/instantbird/nightly/latest-trunk/ (testing purpose only), IRC logs: http://log.bezut.info/. Today's nightly does not start, sor" 10:01:02 topic changed by flo to "Ask questions about Instantbird here. Official website: http://www.instantbird.com. Latest release: 0.2a1. Read http://blog.instantbird.org/. Nightlies: http://ftp.instantbird.com/instantbird/nightly/latest-trunk/ (testing purpose only - broken today, sorry!), IRC logs: http://log.bezut.info/." 10:13:40 <Mic> In a case like this, that a new build doesn't start, can you distribute e.g. yesterdays nightly instead as update? 10:14:00 <flo> it would be nice 10:14:11 <flo> I'd like to have Even's opinion on this 10:14:30 <flo> (he is the one who knows the server side part of the update system) 10:15:10 <flo> I'd like to have a way to test automatically that the build can at least start and connect to most major IM networks before it is put as an automatic update 10:18:57 <flo> I think this should help for the next time such a failure occurs: http://pastebin.instantbird.com/70 10:23:53 * flo rebuilds locally a non-debug build, hoping it won't start, so that he can test his fix for the problem of the nightlies 10:26:13 <MattATobin> flo: can i show you something? not related to this current topic 10:27:39 <flo> yes! 10:27:57 <flo> always! (just make sure we know what you are talking about :)) 10:28:23 <MattATobin> flo: background... as you know ive been learning the xul and other related technologys of the mozilla source code... and with some experamentation with seamonkey ive been going on some sort of thing to clean up and reduce popup windows from preferences and get a unified consitant ui and such... so ive recently masterd iframes and tabboxes... 10:29:20 <MattATobin> anyway here is what i just did in instantbirds options window... dunno if anyone will like the concept but i do :P anyway http://personal.mattatobin.com/screenshots/misc/instantbirdaccountsinpreferences.png 10:30:13 <MattATobin> now i know iframes scream *hack* but this is only as far as i got to xul hacking so far 10:30:39 <MattATobin> i hope to learn to properly transplant things like this without iframes as i learn more 10:34:02 <flo> that's very discussable, but IMHO the account manager is used for lots of things that are not preferences, and its place is not in the preferences window. 10:34:05 <MattATobin> since people value their popup windows for everything i was thinking of making an addon in the future that does this properly so anyone who likes the concept of settings should be configured in settings (options preferences whatever you wanna call it its the same thing) 10:34:14 <flo> looking at the status of accounts, connecting and disconnecting accounts, etc... 10:34:21 <MattATobin> ahh 10:34:36 <flo> however, when checking or unchecking the "Sign-on at startup", or clicking the "Properties" button, that's actually changing preferences 10:35:14 <MattATobin> im thinking of as i learn more taking a page out of trillians ui book and creating a status indicating toolbar of some sort 10:35:29 <MattATobin> or a stratus indicating status bar 10:35:47 <flo> we plan to use the (currently empty) status bar of the buddy list to display the status of account connections 10:36:32 <MattATobin> are u planning to do it in the trillan method or the pidgin method 10:36:58 <flo> the last time I used trillian was 5 to 6 years ago. 10:37:24 <MattATobin> trillian has an indicator for each medium 10:37:37 <MattATobin> that is setup anyway 10:38:12 <flo> the status of the accounts (connected or not) will be in the status bar (at the bottom of the window). The status of the user (available, away, busy, idle) will be in a status area at the top of the buddy list 10:38:20 <Mic> MattA: I've done some things for that already 10:38:49 <Mic> I'm grouping the accounts according to their protocols, ie Trillian style 10:38:55 <MattATobin> ahh 10:39:08 <MattATobin> how will the statusbar look? 10:39:42 <Mic> hmm .. there are some mockups, let me find them .. 10:42:57 <MattATobin> u know trillains main problem other then its bloated as hell... the fact u have to now have a trillain account to do anything and that jabber protocols is still not avaiable in the free version 10:44:01 <Mic> http://wiki.instantbird.org/File:Account_quickaccess2.png 10:44:03 <Mic> http://wiki.instantbird.org/File:Account_quickaccess3.png 10:44:18 <Mic> Something like that. 10:44:23 <MattATobin> or is jabber free now... its been going back and forth durring the beta... trillain is pretty but bloated and tieing it to a webaccount is stupid... means if they dont like u u get terminated... 10:44:26 <MattATobin> ok checking 10:44:39 <Mic> These menu items will offer context menus on which you can do things similiar to the current account manager 10:44:45 <Mic> I prefer #3 10:45:23 <MattATobin> yes this is exactly what i was thinking 10:45:35 <Mic> The menu opens downwards in this screenshot, but that can be changed easily 10:45:42 <MattATobin> yeah 10:46:29 <MattATobin> and adding options like connect disconnect and stuff on the menus? and if its multiaccount on one protocols those options go into submenus for each account? 10:47:03 <Mic> Clicking an account will connect/disconnet depending on its current status 10:47:10 <MattATobin> ok.. 10:47:14 <Mic> That's why there are checkmarks 10:47:22 <Mic> checked = connected 10:48:00 <Mic> I don't like the idea of having submenus there 10:48:30 <MattATobin> well with some teaking the status bar could easly reduce the account manager to setting up and managing accounts and account options duty which would lol send it more into the domain of preferences 10:48:47 <MattATobin> :P 10:49:07 <Mic> I think the account manager is the place where you can do anything related to accounts 10:49:46 <Mic> So we shouldn't strip functionality from there just because we add a way to connect from the status bar 10:50:07 <Mic> It is hard to reach by keyboard for example, the account manager is much better for that 10:50:47 <Mic> (Though I have a half ready accounts submenu for the menu bar;) 10:51:09 <MattATobin> i wouldnt strip anything i would just point out that as long as your not configuring connect options setting up removing accounts its more inline as a preferences type thing 10:52:00 <MattATobin> i guess... its a personal preference (no pun intended) 10:52:48 <MattATobin> u know perhaps there is an addon in all of this 10:53:10 <MattATobin> for me to make an addon to this type of behavor 10:55:09 <MattATobin> i dunno it just seems having all these configuration windows floating around seems like everything is everyware... not in instantbird (yet) but other programs firefox thunderbird seamonkey... now seamonkey granted has the majority in there great monolithic preferences window but still popups... everyware 10:56:10 <MattATobin> perhaps im too 90s in my thinking 10:56:42 <Mic> well, if it had a nice tree structure, I'd go for about:config :P 10:56:55 <MattATobin> Mic: yeah number 3 is deffently better then 2 10:56:56 <MattATobin> heh 10:57:11 <MattATobin> perhaps you need to create a new about:config 10:57:15 <MattATobin> or someone 10:57:26 <Mic> I think there's something like that already for FF 10:59:00 <MattATobin> oh any plans for a system tray icon? 10:59:02 <MattATobin> :P 11:00:21 <Mic> Look for .. MinToTrayR (?) on the Addons site 11:00:36 * flo doesn't see such a big difference between 3 and 2. except that 3 has drop down arrows 11:01:17 <Mic> I think that's the thing that makes the difference 11:01:23 <MattATobin> flo: it just seems better 11:01:29 <Mic> You definitely see that there will a menu open when clicking it 11:01:45 <flo> that's a very minor detail. It's just a visual thing, something we can decide at the last minute :) 11:02:20 <Mic> argh ... UI things are no last-minute things 11:02:28 <MattATobin> no they arnt 11:02:34 <flo> "better" or not is not really the point. The real question is "what are we trying to do here?" 11:02:52 <MattATobin> when im doing things in vb i always design the ui first then make things work... 11:03:00 <flo> do we really want someone to disconnect an account by a single click on the name of the account? 11:03:16 <flo> a checkbox is not explicit at all about which action will be performed 11:03:17 <MattATobin> i honestly think not 11:03:25 <Mic> If not we could as well make him open the account manager 11:03:33 <Mic> It's supposed to be a shortcut 11:03:45 <flo> I see this more as a status area. I'm really interest by the tooltip that will appear when hovering one of the icon 11:04:06 <flo> and (double?)clicking on an account should IMHO open the account manager with that account selected 11:04:46 <flo> whether we add a submenu there or/and in the menubar to perform directly/quickly some actions is still to be discussed/tried 11:06:06 <MattATobin> to me the point of having this type of thing other then as a status indicatior is quick access to frequently used operations... Connect Disconnect perhaps a few others however just a checkmark is not enough and a shortcut to the account manager should be reserved for more then simple options for each protocol 11:06:23 <Mic> Let's see 11:06:37 <flo> and just to answer that "last minute" thing. Designing the UI is really not a last minute thing. But by designing the UI, I mean designing the interactions that the user will have with the UI. The visual details are last-minute things, and changing them is up to theme authors. 11:07:26 <MattATobin> not to mention per protocol staus states.. sometimes i want to set aim to away or invisable but leave the other protocols online that type of thing should be in the status area 11:08:00 <flo> MattATobin: if everything is well designed and configured, you have no common action related to the accounts that you need to perform 11:08:55 <flo> how often do you want to connect or disconnect a specific account? and more interestingly, why? 11:10:07 <flo> having a different status for each protocol is probably something we want for extensions. It's hard to create a not-bloated UI to handle this situation. 11:10:15 <MattATobin> actualy simifrequently... maybe i dont want to be on that account at that moment... in anycase im thinking in terms of trillian how they do it... there are global actions and global protocol actions and specific account actions 11:10:39 <Mic> .. which is a mess imo 11:10:46 <flo> exactly! 11:10:51 <MattATobin> really? 11:10:57 <MattATobin> i found it convenent 11:10:59 <Mic> I never used the global actions 11:11:14 <Mic> well, away now, preparing lunch 11:11:17 <MattATobin> well setting all away is a global action or global disconnect or global connect 11:11:24 <flo> yeah, I need to go get lunch too! 11:11:29 <flo> talk to you later! :) 11:11:32 <MattATobin> k 11:11:42 <MattATobin> cya 11:12:08 <flo> MattATobin: global actions make sense. Per protocol/account don't. Except for very specific needs that can be addressed by extensions. 11:13:20 <MattATobin> ok... perhaps having them in the status bar isnt a good idea perhaps in an accounts menu option like pidgin... does that help? 11:14:12 <MattATobin> well you guys get lunch 11:14:15 <MattATobin> ill bbl 11:15:57 <MattATobin> flo: aio is broke 11:16:02 <MattATobin> the addons site 11:16:18 <MattATobin> Redirection limit for this URL exceeded. Unable to load the requested page. 11:16:35 <MattATobin> and i get a bunch of /seamonkey/seamonkey/seamonkey/ etc 11:26:09 <Mic> You mean this: https://addons.instantbird.org/en-US/instantbird/ 11:26:10 <Mic> ? 11:26:24 <Mic> Works for me here 11:27:29 <Mic> What I think on UI is: if something is eg representing a buddy you should be able to do things that you can do on a buddy item 11:27:45 <Mic> It shouldn't be a plain text string with his name 11:28:24 <MattATobin> well by just going to addons.instantbird.com it breaks 11:28:42 <MattATobin> wait 11:28:53 <MattATobin> ok it works now 11:29:05 <MattATobin> nevermind i clicked the link on the main site 11:29:13 <MattATobin> and it was doing that redirect loop 11:32:14 --> Troy has joined #instantbird 11:34:18 <-- Troy has left #instantbird () 11:39:26 <Mic> re 11:39:41 <Mic> That's why I'm against a 'show status only' solution 11:40:01 <Mic> If it's about accounts, the user should be able to do anything he wants with them 11:43:04 <Mic> gtg 11:43:28 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.2b1pre) 12:05:53 <flo> real 51m52.256s,user 36m23.579s, sys 6m11.379s 12:05:53 <flo> hmmm, how is such a compilation time possible? 12:07:49 <Morian_> your computer is watching porn><' 12:07:52 * Morian_ is now known as Morian 12:08:04 <flo> ah, ok, it means that iCal is taking 100% of one of the cores :-S 12:08:54 <flo> and it's sending 110kB/s, and receiving 80 12:09:08 <flo> without any program being supposed to do anything with the connection 12:09:10 <flo> hmm... 12:18:00 <flo> the error we have with the current nightly is: http://queze.net/goinfre/error-only.png 12:18:14 <flo> does it look right to change it to: http://queze.net/goinfre/error-update.png ? 12:29:10 <flo> gtg! 12:29:17 <-- flo has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.2b1pre) 12:29:48 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/2a875880160a - Florian Qu?ze - Changeset from Bug 526760: Port Bug 519357 - Only load known binary components from app directory - to comm-central. 12:29:49 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/c29a4ab33a3b - Florian Qu?ze - Add a check for updates button in the startup error dialog. 12:43:30 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 13:12:27 --> Desiderius has joined #instantbird 13:16:25 --> GeekShadow has joined #instantbird 14:12:33 --> DetroitLibertyPenguin has joined #instantbird 14:14:44 <-- GeekShadow has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 14:35:42 --> iLobster has joined #instantbird 14:35:54 <iLobster> greetings 14:38:11 <Mic> Hello 14:38:19 <iLobster> startup failure XPCOM registration of the putplexpcom component falied - is very bad? Windows version last update 14:39:34 <iLobster> *purplexpcom 14:40:44 <Mic> See topic 14:40:49 <Mic> Todays nightly is broken 14:41:52 <iLobster> oki, sorry 14:42:15 <iLobster> 151109 is good? 14:42:28 <iLobster> i need to replace all files? 14:45:31 --> flo has joined #instantbird 14:45:31 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo flo 14:46:46 <Mic> I think so 14:46:52 <Mic> Yesterdays nightly worked fine 14:48:15 <DetroitLibertyPenguin> i've had to do that with the Windows NIghtlies several times, often on MOnday, after I haven't use the machine for 2-3 days 14:48:43 <flo> DetroitLibertyPenguin: what was the problem? 14:48:46 <iLobster> my first time 14:49:17 <flo> as far as I know, that's the 2nd time we have broken nightly updates since we have nightlies. 14:49:49 <flo> and the first time is so long ago that I don't remember exactly when and/or what the problem was 14:53:13 * flo requested another Windows and Mac nightly 15:12:00 <DetroitLibertyPenguin> flo: I had weird thigns where it would give me some strange error message and not finshi booting 15:13:24 <DetroitLibertyPenguin> I've had several problem like that, but I think its related to the fact I have Windows set to boot Instantbird when Windows boots up 15:13:57 <DetroitLibertyPenguin> and I almost never shut it down properly either 15:14:25 <DetroitLibertyPenguin> i've never got the Facebook add-on to work, and somebody here told me they thought it was related too 15:26:31 <flo> well, the facebook chat plugin is not really stable 15:26:50 <flo> and maybe you have corrupted files if you never shutdown properly the OS. 15:27:39 <-- Desiderius has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.2/20090729211829]) 15:34:44 <-- iLobster has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.5/20091102152451]) 15:36:13 <Mic> Wasn't there an issue when not closing IB before shutting down Windows? 15:36:29 <Mic> Failing on next start of IB or so? 15:36:53 <Mic> I think you fixed it .. maybe 2 month ago? 15:38:26 <flo> there was an issue of a stupid error message poping up. But I don't remember any startup issue caused by it 16:08:15 <Mic> I thought you had to try twice next time 16:08:33 <Mic> well, guess I'm mistaken on this 16:12:31 --> m513901 has joined #instantbird 16:12:55 <-- m513901 has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.2b1pre) 16:36:50 <-- flo has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.2b1pre) 16:37:08 --> flo has joined #instantbird 16:37:08 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo flo 16:53:37 --> Troy has joined #instantbird 16:54:34 <Troy> hi all 16:54:54 <flo> hi 16:56:04 <Troy> In tomorrow nightly build bug will be fixed? 16:57:03 <flo> a new correct Mac nightly is already available 16:57:12 <Troy> Win? 16:57:15 <flo> a Windows nightly that works should be ready in less than an hour 16:57:51 <Troy> Excellent! Thank you! 16:57:51 --> m513901 has joined #instantbird 16:58:01 <-- m513901 has quit (Connection reset by peer) 16:58:13 <flo> np 16:59:19 <Troy> I looked at HG - you have changed the window that appears when an error? 16:59:30 <flo> yes 16:59:56 --> m513901 has joined #instantbird 17:00:09 <-- m513901 has left #instantbird () 17:00:38 <flo> today you will have to redownload the nightly yourself. 17:00:53 <flo> if we ever have such a problem again, the error dialog will look like this: http://queze.net/goinfre/error-update.png 17:01:14 --> m513901 has joined #instantbird 17:02:24 <Troy> Mac? 17:02:45 <Troy> on screenshot 17:02:50 <flo> yes 17:03:10 <flo> just to give you a comparison point, the error today looked like this on mac: http://queze.net/goinfre/error-only.png 17:04:38 <-- m513901 has left #instantbird () 17:05:02 --> m513901 has joined #instantbird 17:07:37 <Troy> flo, is it possible to somehow make sure that it was possible to show and offline contacts too? 17:08:04 <flo> currently no 17:08:26 --> GeekShadow has joined #instantbird 17:28:50 <flo> new Windows nightly available! 17:29:02 <Morian> what's new in it ? 17:29:11 <flo> Morian: it can start! 17:29:17 <flo> isn't that great? :-P 17:29:18 <Morian> wow 17:29:26 <-- m513901 has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.2b1pre) 17:29:28 <Morian> great progression yes 17:29:47 --> m513901 has joined #instantbird 17:31:12 --> Tro has joined #instantbird 17:31:41 <Tro> I downloaded it! 17:31:52 <flo> and it does start? 17:31:55 <m513901> me too it works 17:31:58 <Tro> yes!! 17:32:00 <flo> :) 17:32:09 <Tro> cool! 17:32:41 <flo> Ask questions about Instantbird here. Official website: http://www.instantbird.com. Latest release: 0.2a1. Read http://blog.instantbird.org/. Nightlies: http://ftp.instantbird.com/instantbird/nightly/latest-trunk/ (testing purpose only - broken today? update!), IRC logs: http://log.bezut.info/. 17:32:48 topic changed by flo to "Ask questions about Instantbird here. Official website: http://www.instantbird.com. Latest release: 0.2a1. Read http://blog.instantbird.org/. Nightlies: http://ftp.instantbird.com/instantbird/nightly/latest-trunk/ (testing purpose only - broken today? update!), IRC logs: http://log.bezut.info/." 17:46:32 <flo> see you later! 17:46:54 <-- flo has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.2b1pre) 17:49:25 <Troy> by flo 17:49:29 <Troy> bye 17:49:31 <-- Troy has left #instantbird () 17:52:47 <-- Even has quit (Ping timeout) 17:53:40 --> Even has joined #instantbird 17:53:40 * ChanServ sets mode +o Even 18:14:42 <-- Even has quit (Ping timeout) 18:15:19 --> Even has joined #instantbird 18:15:19 * ChanServ sets mode +o Even 18:27:30 <-- Tro has left #instantbird () 18:32:29 <-- Even has quit (Ping timeout) 18:35:11 --> Even has joined #instantbird 18:35:24 * ChanServ sets mode +o Even 18:43:59 <-- m513901 has left #instantbird () 19:01:00 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 19:08:16 --> rbezut1 has joined #instantbird 19:09:01 <-- rbezut has quit (Ping timeout) 19:26:45 * rbezut1 is now known as rbezut 19:26:51 --> flo has joined #instantbird 19:26:52 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo flo 19:43:59 <-- DetroitLibertyPenguin has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.2b1pre) 19:46:25 --> DetroitLibertyPenguin has joined #instantbird 19:49:21 <-- DGMurdockIII has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.2b1pre) 19:49:28 --> DGMurdockIII has joined #instantbird 19:49:44 <-- DGMurdockIII has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.2b1pre) 19:50:39 --> DGMurdockIII has joined #instantbird 19:50:39 <-- DGMurdockIII has quit (Quit: DGMurdockIII) 19:50:42 --> DGMurdockIII has joined #instantbird 19:50:50 <DGMurdockIII> hi 20:01:40 --> instantbot has joined #instantbird 20:01:40 topic changed by sand.mozilla.org to "Ask questions about Instantbird here. Official website: http://www.instantbird.com. Latest release: 0.2a1. Read http://blog.instantbird.org/. Nightlies: http://ftp.instantbird.com/instantbird/nightly/latest-trunk/ (testing purpose only - broken today? update!), IRC logs: http://log.bezut.info/." 20:01:41 * ChanServ sets mode +v instantbot 20:11:42 <-- rbezut has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.2b1pre) 20:13:14 --> rbezut has joined #instantbird 20:33:33 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 20:47:01 <DGMurdockIII> hi 20:47:26 <Morian> hi 20:54:54 <Mic> hi 20:55:28 <flo> hi 20:56:06 <flo> (just adding one line to the list of nicks of decreasing size saying "hi" ;) ) 20:57:32 <Mic> On my screen the curve of the end of the hi-lines looks like sqrt(x) with x being along the line 20:58:13 <Mic> no, more like log(x) ;) 20:58:19 <flo> that's a scientific hi! ;) 20:58:51 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.2b1pre) 20:59:30 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 21:12:43 --> idechix has joined #instantbird 21:17:51 <DGMurdockIII> flo: do you think you fixed the problem i ben having with instantbird crashing 21:18:02 <flo> not yet 21:18:24 <flo> once I do, I'll ask you (the next day) to confirm it's fixed ;) 21:19:22 <-- idechix has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.2b1pre) 21:19:27 --> idechix has joined #instantbird 21:21:06 <DGMurdockIII> ok 21:22:15 <DGMurdockIII> Error: Got a NOTICE on AUTH, which does not exist 21:22:15 <DGMurdockIII> Source File: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/raw-file/c29a4ab33a3b/purple/libpurple/protocols/irc/msgs.c 21:22:15 <DGMurdockIII> Line: 1194 21:22:16 <DGMurdockIII> Source Code: 21:22:16 <DGMurdockIII> irc: irc_msg_handle_privmsg 21:22:26 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.2b1pre) 21:26:38 <-- idechix has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.2b1pre) 21:26:42 --> idechix has joined #instantbird 21:30:18 <-- idechix has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.2b1pre) 21:30:22 --> idechix has joined #instantbird 21:30:35 <flo> good night! 21:30:58 <-- idechix has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.2b1pre) 21:31:07 --> idechix has joined #instantbird 21:33:59 <Chaz6> Night flo 22:01:48 <-- GeekShadow has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 22:18:30 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 22:19:57 <Mic> MattATobin: Here's another mockup on the account access bar 22:19:59 <Mic> http://wiki.instantbird.org/images/6/6d/Account_quickaccess4.png 22:21:19 <Mic> Single click would connect/disconnect, context menu of an item would be similiar to the account manager (especially allowing access to properties) 22:21:43 <Mic> It might be a bit fancy right now, I admit ;) 22:25:55 <-- idechix has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.2b1pre) 22:27:45 <MattATobin> hmm 22:27:47 <MattATobin> interesting 22:28:08 <MattATobin> no icons for the dropdown items its self? 22:28:43 <Mic> not yet, I couldn't be bothered to look up how to do iconic buttons ;) 22:28:50 <MattATobin> i perpose all connected some connect and all offline states for the dropdown menu icons 22:29:44 <MattATobin> some connected would not be used if it only has one account of course 22:30:07 <Mic> hmm? 22:30:31 <MattATobin> well the icons for the buttons them selves 22:30:54 <MattATobin> can indicate if its online offline or in the case of multiple accounts on that protocol some connected 22:30:57 <Mic> Sure, but there is just 'all connected' or 'none connected' if you have only one account 22:31:06 <MattATobin> right 22:31:18 <Mic> Some connected is a bit complicated do display in my opinion 22:32:09 <MattATobin> im guessing full color full saturation for connected and washed out or grey for not connected right? 22:32:10 <Mic> btw that's just another mockup 22:32:42 <Mic> this doesn't work that well on grey icons imo 22:33:33 <MattATobin> ok... ill have to see what ur gonna do and then comment i guess 22:34:23 <MattATobin> but that ui element is not as important as buddy list management 22:34:49 <Mic> Buddylist management is a 0.3 goal 22:37:07 <MattATobin> well can we find a way to atleast display the contacts in the order that it is on the accoutn manager... i have AIM GTalk ICQ MSN Y! in that order and i group contacts in that same way but if all are set to auto connect if some protocols take longer to signon then i may get the oder as MSN ICQ GTALK Y! and AIM 22:37:15 <MattATobin> on the buddy list that is 22:38:25 <MattATobin> but meh its not a gole till 0.3 thats ok too 22:38:41 <DGMurdockIII> it not to early to start playing for .03 22:38:46 <DGMurdockIII> .3* 22:39:47 <MattATobin> i still think account manager should be in preferences 22:39:56 <MattATobin> but thats just me 22:40:01 <MattATobin> i guess 22:50:25 <Mic> good night 22:50:28 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.2b1pre) 22:59:11 <-- DetroitLibertyPenguin has left #instantbird () 23:03:28 --> GeekShadow has joined #instantbird 23:11:09 <-- GeekShadow has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 23:47:42 <-- DGMurdockIII has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.2b1pre)