#instantbird log on 11 15 2009

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00:00:09 <Morian> consists of IRC log analisys and extracting "human" information from it
00:00:12 <Morian> for school
00:00:44 <Morian> human information means some stats, or graphs "who is talking to who, and how much" for example
00:01:08 <Morian> (Of course I'll show you when it is finished)
00:04:19 <Morian> (and code will be available, etc ...)
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00:46:00 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/6b2c245a3b67 - Florian Qu?ze - Refactoring: cleanup the handling of disabling the 'Join Chat' and 'Add Buddy' menuitem, and the handling of the autojoin feature.
00:46:01 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/74278ec88d43 - Florian Qu?ze - Make menus behave correctly on Mac for most windows.
00:46:02 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/812017df9014 - Florian Qu?ze - Persist the account manager size.
00:46:03 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/25aba6ec69f4 - Benedikt P. - Add a button in the advanced tab of the pref window to open the search engines manager.
00:46:04 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/3b2f71cfebeb - Benedikt P. - Update the label of the 'Check for updates' menuitem at the right time depending on the platform.
00:46:05 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/bf4d14ed3ff2 - Benedikt P. - Remove the 'Sounds' menuitem.
00:53:23 <flo> good night
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08:48:02 <Mic> good morning
09:45:44 <flo> hi :)
09:47:50 <flo> lots of colors on the waterfall :-/
10:23:34 <Mic> :o
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10:26:56 <Mic> I was surprised when I saw the fix for making the account manager size persistent
10:27:19 <Mic> I didn't expect it to be that easy
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12:34:09 <flo> Mic: persisting XUL attributes is very easy... when it works :)
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12:44:28 <Troy> hi
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13:15:21 <m513901> hi
13:16:53 <m513901> how do I start Instantbird when I've build it?? there is no directory ../obj-instantbird/dist/bin like it in the wiki
13:18:20 <m513901> in obj-instantbird i have dirs: config instantbird mozilla & purple
13:22:28 <m513901> I put my mozconfig to http://pastebin.com/m64fd1e4b
13:24:23 <Morian> obj-instantbird/mozilla/dist/bin
13:24:35 <Morian> (or something like that)
13:25:07 <m513901> ohh, I thought I looked everywhere thx
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14:02:07 <flo> m513901: what's the wiki page mentioning an obj-instantbird/dist/bin path?
14:02:36 <m513901> yes
14:03:26 <m513901> I think that should be changed
14:03:33 <flo> what's the address?
14:03:59 <m513901> http://wiki.instantbird.org/Instantbird:Compiling
14:05:21 <flo> hmm... I wonder if that was right at the time of 0.1.3
14:05:39 <m513901> I think "make package" should also be added to that page
14:06:16 <flo> ok, I fixed the path in the page
14:26:12 <m513901> How do I tell "make installer" that I want it for windows?
14:26:36 <flo> the installer for windows is not ready yet
14:26:45 <m513901> oh ok
14:27:12 <m513901> So does "make package" run on windows then??
14:27:25 <flo> yes
14:27:28 <flo> it creates a .zip
14:28:02 <m513901> ok thanks a lot
14:28:23 <flo> have you modified a build that you want to share with someone? :)
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15:38:02 <m513901> no, I'm just trying to get the instantbird I build on ubuntu to run on Windows
15:38:23 <rbezut> O_o
15:38:36 <rbezut> with a Virtual Machine?
15:38:42 <m513901> jap
15:38:58 <m513901> is that not possible??
15:39:54 <rbezut> I don't really know what you are doing, windows and ubuntu programs are not binary compatible ...
15:41:11 <m513901> I know 
15:45:35 <Mic> A cross-compilation for windows?
15:46:11 <Mic> Building on windows takes a lot of time, doesn't it? Maybe that could be a way to speed things up?
15:46:24 <m513901> I'm really new to this
15:46:43 <m513901> Building on windows doesn't work here
15:47:05 <m513901> so I installed a virtual ubuntu
15:47:07 <flo> Mic: cross compiling mozilla application for Windows doesn't work
15:47:19 <flo> well, you can cross compile from Windows NT to Windows CE/Mobile
15:47:32 <flo> but I'm pretty sure that's not what m513901 is attempting to do ;)
15:47:44 <m513901> yes
15:48:12 <m513901> i'm just trying to compile a working IB
15:48:19 <flo> for windows?
15:48:35 <m513901> in the beginning yes
15:49:07 <m513901> but I gave this up: Windows 7 64 Bit I don't think I can get this to work
15:50:06 <flo> does windows 7 64bit behaves differently from Vista or XP if you install a 32bit version of visual studio? (I'm not even sure there's a 64bit version)
15:50:40 <m513901> I don't think so, bur I just could get it working
15:50:51 <m513901> Maybe I'll look into it again
15:51:55 <m513901> I wanted to try on a German translation, but I think I have to get I compiling first
15:52:28 <Mic> Translation packages are just extensions
15:53:09 <m513901> oh interesting, I have to read in the wiki about that
15:53:32 <Mic> https://wiki.instantbird.org/Instantbird:Creating_a_new_localization_%28Mercurial%29
15:54:12 <m513901> thx
15:54:26 <Mic> wait ..
15:54:51 <Mic> https://wiki.instantbird.org/Instantbird:Translation
15:55:05 <flo> you probably still need mozilla build, but you don't need to have a working compiler
15:55:28 <m513901> I got mozilla-build Its working
15:59:10 <m513901> I think I can do that
16:05:46 <Mic> flo: a typo-in-variable-name patch: http://pastebin.instantbird.com/68
16:06:59 <flo> uh, seems like someone (not sure if that someone was Morian or myself) got saved by automatic completion in the editor!
16:07:39 <Mic> Or: automatic completion prevented him from noticing it ;)
16:08:11 <flo> we should have better editors with spellcheckers, detecting that a change in case is a word boundary
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16:14:21 <Mic> the file names are pretty inconsistently chosen in .. /content/instantbird/
16:14:38 <Morian> ^^'
16:14:40 <Mic> we have abbreviated names, camel case, no camel case, ..
16:15:52 <Morian> I agree, it has been added without any rule I guess, they should be more explicit and more consistent, but it's "a lot" of changes for nearly nothing :-/
16:16:08 <Mic> that's right
16:19:00 <flo> yeah... some files are very old, some are modified copies of files with the same name from mozilla,... it's getting messy
16:19:43 <flo> one of these days, if I manage to have a tree with no pending modifications at all, I'll probably remove some useless directories
16:19:51 <flo> instantbird/content/*instantbird*
16:20:10 <flo> instantbird/themes/*winstripe*/*instantbird*
16:20:41 <flo> it will save some typing (or clicking) when opening the files in an editor, and save some time during compilation (recursive make is slow, espectially on Windows)
16:26:55 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/771873d536d9 - Florian Qu?ze - From bug 526817: Port bug 526668 - add option to 'unify' to allow files to match if their sorted contents match
16:26:56 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/d0b5c876aac8 - Benedikt P. - Fix typo in variable name.
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18:06:41 <Mic> flo: have you seen that there's a first 'real theme' (ie UI skin) on the addon page?
18:07:46 <Even> Mic: I suppose he did since I had to validate it for it not to be in the sandbox anymore.
18:07:55 <Even> And what is interesting on addons is always reported :P
18:08:26 <Mic> ok .. 
18:08:30 <Even> So, to make a long story short, he knows :)
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19:02:18 <Mic> I updated the join chat extension that allows to access the join chat dialog by double clicking the tab bar (or using the (right now hidden) buttons/context menu items)
19:02:52 <Mic> There have been about a hundred downloads of it so far, but the old version is not functioning with the new tab system
19:03:04 <Mic> Would be cool if I could get a quick review on this
19:03:59 <Mic> cool thing: the new tab system makes it much easier: all that was necessary is catching the "newtab"-event :)
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23:40:13 <flo> good night! :)
23:40:37 <Chaz6> Night flo
23:42:03 <Mic> night
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