#instantbird log on 10 18 2009

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07:27:49 <flo> Mitch: :) It would be nice to have a way to create a graphical view of the CPU usage, with the time and the folder name displayed
07:28:11 <flo> I suspect a lot of time is wasted in nspr and nss, but I can't tell how much
07:30:08 <Mitch> flo: There's a patch on bug 461444 too, but it only flattens toolkit.
07:30:54 <Mitch> I have no idea if it clashes with the parallel patch.
07:31:27 <flo> something that would be really nice is to be able to start creating .o files in the next folder while still linking in the previous folder
07:32:17 <flo> for Instantbird, I've parallelised the compilation of libpurple protocol plugins, because there's no dependency between protocol plugins.
07:32:45 <flo> It would be nice to be able to start compiling protocol plugins even before the libpurple.so file is linked
07:36:31 <flo> Mitch: with this patch you are mostly removing public/ and src/ directories, right?
07:36:41 <Mitch> Yep.
07:38:30 <flo> in Instantbird I already remove one useless directory (instantbird/base which only contained instantbird/base/content, we now have instantbird/content instead)
07:39:03 <flo> I still have another stupid directory to remove
07:39:10 <flo> instantbird/themes/winstripe is useless
07:39:44 <flo> but a single directory doesn't have a huge impact on the overall build time, and doing so breaks all the WIP patches, so...
07:40:36 <Mitch> Oh yeah. Did you fix that mess that's applied to the Mozilla source? :P
07:42:34 <Mitch> Also, the account manager dialog's not wide enough.
07:42:40 <flo> which mess?
07:42:56 <Mitch> The patch applied at build time.
07:43:08 <flo> it's at checkout time, not build time :)
07:43:18 <Mitch> Oh right. Still...
07:44:27 <flo> what do you call the "mess"? The fact that some patches are outdated and don't apply anymore, or the fact that we need patches? :)
07:44:41 <Mitch> The fact that they're needed.
07:45:18 <flo> bah...
07:45:34 <flo> for most of them, I don't see that as a problem
07:46:19 <Mitch> Instantbird will never get accepted into most distros if it can't use an unmodified XULRunner.
07:46:34 <flo> especially, when a patch is needed for the instantbird build process to interact well with our buildbot installation, I don't think it matters to upstream the patch, because it doesn't prevent anyone from building instantbird successfully without the patch
07:46:50 <Mitch> Interesting.
07:46:56 <flo> Mitch: right. And it can perfectly use unmodified xulrunners
07:47:05 <Mitch> That's fine then. :D
07:47:20 <flo> when a patch is really *required* for Instantbird to work, I do my best to upstream it quickly
07:48:34 <flo> this one for example was really needed: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=418535
07:50:33 <Mitch> I wonder if blocking Mozilla plugins (not add-on) with the blocklist would be a good idea.
07:51:14 <flo> I don't know
07:51:28 <flo> Mitch: actually, there are 2 patches that we should care about
07:54:20 <flo> the one for the findbar, that would be nice to have by default because it changes something in the behavior of the findbar and that's visible in the UI. (but instantbird can work without this patch... and actually, it does because the patch is outdated and doesn't apply anymore so the current nightlies don't have it)
07:55:43 <flo> and the one for errno on wince, which seems to be the cause of https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=516312
07:56:48 <Mitch> Okay. Tea time!
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10:27:41 <flo> do people have thoughts about the "new account manager" in today's nightly?
10:27:52 <flo> Mitch, was your "not wide enough" comment about Linux or Windows?
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10:36:59 <Mitch> flo: Windows. Apart from that, it's a great improvement.
10:37:43 <flo> do you have an account with a very long name, or a big font?
10:38:17 <flo> on windows, my account "instantbird@gmail.com/instantbird" fits
10:40:55 <Mitch> Wait, I'll clear the XUL cache and hope that resets the dialog.
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11:23:49 <Mic> btw the window doesn't remember its size
11:28:58 <Mic> The style of the icons is a little inconsistent maybe. For one you have the flat circle icons (which are a little flat and obstrusive) for the other there are the light and detailed icons like on connecting or the error with the exclamation mark
11:30:50 <Mic> The gray icons aren't necessary in my opinion since this state is mutually exclusive with any other state for which icons are shown.
12:05:16 <Mic> What about a plug and a socket?
12:05:32 <Mic> It could either be grey and disconnected, or glowing green and being connected
12:06:33 <Mic> disconnected with a red glow and exclamation sign or flash showing an error
12:07:27 <Mic> Connecting could be plug and socket moving closer and starting to glow green (animation looped)
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18:49:14 <DGMurdockIII> 2(flo2): do you think you could support the windows 7 taskbar jumplist
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21:21:23 <flo> DGMurdockIII: I don't have access to a windows 7 VM. If someone want's to create a patch for that feature, why not...
21:21:46 <flo> apparently that's possible from javascript, in builds where https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=473045 is fixed
21:22:10 <DGMurdockIII> if i can get you the code how you can do it would use do
21:22:27 <DGMurdockIII> iim running windows 7
21:22:43 <flo> just look at the link I provided if you want to see how to do it
21:26:33 <DGMurdockIII> are you going to realese a new verson of instantbird soon
21:27:05 <DGMurdockIII> a stable verson becse i thnk it kinda time to
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22:34:06 <flo> oh by the way, Instantbird 0.1 is 2 years old today!
22:36:18 <flo> good night
22:52:44 <DGMurdockIII> yeah
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