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02:12:57 --> fractals has joined #instantbird 02:13:00 <-- fractals has quit (User has been banned from Mozilla (No spamming here)) 04:30:28 --> Tro has joined #instantbird 04:31:02 <Tro> Hi all 04:35:29 <-- Tro has left #instantbird () 04:41:39 --> Tro has joined #instantbird 05:02:12 <-- Tro has left #instantbird () 05:46:46 <-- flo has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.2b1pre) 05:56:06 --> Tro has joined #instantbird 06:00:54 <-- Tro has left #instantbird () 06:36:14 --> Tro has joined #instantbird 06:36:16 <-- Tro has left #instantbird () 06:45:21 <-- Morian has quit (Ping timeout) 06:47:38 --> turbo has joined #instantbird 06:47:40 <-- turbo has quit (User has been banned from Mozilla (No spamming here)) 06:52:17 --> GeekShadow has joined #instantbird 08:35:18 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 08:37:52 --> Tro has joined #instantbird 08:38:25 <Tro> Hi Mic! 08:38:33 <Mic> Hi 08:40:41 <Tro> This is because you are the creator of Join Chat Extension? 08:41:13 --> sonny has joined #instantbird 08:43:25 <-- Tro has left #instantbird () 09:04:12 <Mic> Scripting would be fun .. 09:05:34 <Mic> onJoin() { if( HOSTNAME == "tymerkaev@*") say("yes, I am"); } 09:10:03 <Mic> (if it were as easy as this pseudo code) 09:46:56 --> Morian has joined #instantbird 09:55:24 <Morian> who is tro1 ? 09:55:55 <Morian> he told me "tank you" but I don't know whatfor ... 09:57:31 <Mic> The guy that I can only identify by his hostmask 09:57:52 <Mic> He's having a different name each time he joins as it seems 10:00:14 <Morian> ah 10:00:20 <Morian> the russian one ? 10:02:45 <-- GeekShadow has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 10:10:56 <Mic> maybe 10:12:01 <Mic> It's hard to look up things on the log files if you've no idea what the users name was 10:12:11 <Mic> So I just can't tell 10:12:30 <Morian> hosts are not logged right ? 10:21:03 <Morian> they aren't :-/ 10:27:14 <Mic> [ "The log files of this chat / channel can be found at" +<path goes here>] 10:27:50 <Mic> Might be a nice idea for an addon, either as bar or maybe a "Open log files directory" item in the context menu 10:29:50 <Morian> yes, but there is no proper way to get this url ^^' 10:30:04 <Morian> except if it is already in the topic 10:33:22 <Mic> I don't understand? 10:33:54 <Morian> how would we get the url where the log is available if the server or the channel doesn't provide it 10:34:11 <Mic> :D 10:34:24 <Mic> No, I'm talking about Instantbird's local log files 10:34:31 <Morian> ahhhh 10:34:40 <Morian> ahhhhhhhhhhh now I understand ok 10:35:05 <Morian> yes, this can be a good idea, this is something which is often asked 10:35:20 <Mic> Each chat/channel has its own folder, we could open it an maybe highlight the current session 10:35:39 <Morian> yes :) 10:36:11 <Morian> and firefox is able to do that kind of things, since after a download you can "open folder" 10:36:14 <Morian> (I guess) 10:37:53 <Morian> on linux this feature asks me which program to use ^^' 10:39:19 --> Tro1 has joined #instantbird 10:39:32 <Mic> Congratulations, it seems you made it ;) 10:41:02 <Tro1> :) 10:45:10 <Tro1> instantbot: seen Morian 10:45:11 <instantbot> morian was last seen 7 minutes and 17 seconds ago, saying 'on linux this feature asks me which program to use ^^'' in #instantbird. 10:45:27 <Tro1> yeah 10:45:33 <Tro1> Morian 10:45:40 <Morian> instantbot: this is false! 10:45:41 <instantbot> Morian: But this is 'exactly the same with some patches (but i does not affect strings)' or 'what you need to be able to do it'... 10:46:04 <Morian> O_o 10:46:14 <Tro1> hahaha 10:47:00 <Morian> Tro1, are you tt ? 10:47:17 <Tro1> no 10:47:25 <Tro1> what is tt? 10:47:40 <Morian> an other person on this chan ^^ 10:48:03 <Morian> you thanked me in PM, have I done something for you? 10:48:22 <Morian> I am not very active on IB for a few weeks 10:48:56 <Mic> oops, I guess I mixed the two of you up then 10:49:11 <Mic> sorry. 10:49:27 <Tro1> :) 10:50:39 <Tro1> Morian, can somehow extend the choice of status? 10:51:12 <Mic> http://lxr.instantbird.org/instantbird/source/purple/libpurple/log.h#326 :) 10:51:19 <Morian> This feature is planned, we would like to have it for 0.2, but this is short 10:52:38 <Morian> Tro1: But it is something we will do. 10:52:39 <Mic> Not scriptable if I'm right .. 10:53:48 <Morian> about libpurple ? 10:53:54 <Tro1> And is there any addons, temporarily replacing this function? 10:54:36 <Morian> Tro1: no :-/ 10:54:50 <Tro1> Now wait, I have to restart instantbird. 10:54:52 <-- Tro1 has left #instantbird () 10:55:34 --> Tro1 has joined #instantbird 10:56:48 <Tro1> ok 10:57:55 <Morian> cool my patch that solves misalignment when you type --help in the Linux console has been pushed \o/ 10:58:11 <Morian> (for firefox, thunderbird, instantbird, etc...) 10:58:32 <Tro1> Morian, ib 0.2b1pre is stable, or I should not have him moved? 10:58:39 <Tro1> from 0.2a1 10:58:47 <Morian> 0.2b1pre is stable 10:58:57 <Morian> quite as much as 0.2a1 10:59:36 <Tro1> more stable than 0.2a1? 10:59:54 <Morian> b1pre is updated everyday 11:00:07 <Morian> it can happen that one day it becomes totally broken 11:00:56 <Morian> it is quite stable, but we can't be sure that tomorrow's build will be ready to use 11:01:32 <Morian> If you want to have new features as we add them, you can use b1pre, but if you want something really stable, a1 is fine 11:01:39 <Tro1> I for some reason it is not updated for a week. 11:01:55 <Morian> the build system for windows was "broken" 11:02:07 <Morian> but is works anew :) 11:02:44 <Mic> We have a new Windows nightly today 11:03:00 <Morian> that's why he said "<Tro1> Now wait, I have to restart instantbird." 11:03:00 <Morian> :) 11:03:04 <Morian> I guess 11:03:20 <Mic> :D 11:03:26 <Mic> I didn't think of that 11:04:15 <Mic> I disabled automated updates, it interferes if I change something .. 11:04:48 <Mic> So I'm not used anymore to restart every day 11:04:59 <Morian> :) 11:05:19 <Tro1> Oh, then add in the next version of the panel emoticons, please, I somehow can not find it. 11:06:01 <Morian> you mean smileys addons don't work ? 11:06:04 <Mic> You mean the selection screen? 11:06:29 <Morian> ah, Mic's version is better :-D 11:07:14 <Tro1> I mean the panel emoticons in the dialog window. 11:07:24 <Mic> In "Tools->Emoticons..." you should have a screen on which you can choose between *installed* emoticon themes (they're extensions as anything else) 11:08:30 <Morian> but yes there is no panel for emoticons in conversation like in pidgin (yet (?)). 11:08:52 <Tro1> Just like in ICQ. 11:09:57 <Tro1> But Ib unlike Pidgin is more extensible? 11:10:34 <Morian> IB is more extensible using mozilla's extension system 11:10:41 <Tro1> That is, it is still impossible? 11:11:01 <Morian> such a panel in an extension would be "easy" I think 11:12:31 <Tro1> That is, you can do that? 11:13:08 <Mic> I guess we'll have something like that on the markup-deck one day? 11:14:27 <Morian> maybe. But I still don't really get the point of it. I mean that I don't know whether people need it. 11:15:11 <Mic> I'm using such stuff only for more obscure emoticon names, but who knows if the other client supports them ? 11:15:29 <Morian> Tro1: I would be able to do this, but I have already 5 school projects, an internship to find (in mozilla technologies if possible), and a lot of other things to do at the moment. 11:16:46 <Morian> Mic: no one can know that, and surely if an emoticon is too complicated, like --->[], the other client won't handle it ... (unless it is MSN with personal emoticons ^^') 11:16:48 --> Mitch has joined #instantbird 11:17:01 <Mitch> Morian! 11:17:39 <Tro1> All the same, manually uncomfortable panel emoticons (or button) will be very handy. 11:17:43 <Tro1> Mic 11:17:53 <Mic> I think it would be a toolbaritem+grid+emoticons listed in it+insert at current cursor on click 11:18:08 <Mitch> Hey, Mic. 11:18:14 <Mic> hey Mitch 11:18:34 <Tro1> Can you do it? Please. 11:18:54 <Morian> this kind of toolbar will appear one day, at least with rich html, to start a file transfert (?) or things like that 11:19:27 <Mic> You'll also have ways to make bold and italic text and colours and such 11:19:32 <Mic> (then) 11:20:19 <Mic> Has anyone checked the new mobile status btw? 11:20:37 <Mic> I think https://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/7b5701f4c763 is the fix for https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=242 ? 11:20:40 <instantbot> Mic: Bug 242 nor, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, Need indicators for Mobile buddys 11:21:48 <Morian> wow, flo did that ? 11:22:15 <Mic> No, he just faked it? :P 11:22:22 <Morian> lol 11:22:42 <Morian> He seems so busy atm that I didn't think he would do such a patch 11:23:04 <Morian> but yes I think you can close 242 and add a link to the changeset 11:23:06 --> GeekShadow has joined #instantbird 11:23:12 <Mic> One day he said: "oh, that's so easy to do" 11:23:19 <Morian> lol 11:24:48 <instantbot> leeraccount@yahoo.de set the Resolution field on bug 242 to FIXED. 11:24:50 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=242 nor, --, ---, nobody, RESO FIXED, Need indicators for Mobile buddys 11:26:27 <Mitch> FWIW, WLM has mobile indicators, FTW. 11:26:59 <Morian> (sorry Mic, I edit the patch to add target, assigned to, version, and platforms) 11:29:22 <-- Mic has left #instantbird () 11:29:59 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 11:30:18 <Mic> It's possible to selecte Message Theme Variants again 11:30:49 <Mic> Works for me with Minimal 2 theme at least 11:30:54 <Morian> oho 11:30:57 <Mic> I think we can close https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=211 as well 11:31:00 <Morian> Mozilla may have fixed it :) 11:31:01 <instantbot> Mic: Bug 211 maj, --, 0.2, nobody, NEW, Message Themes Variants are not recognized 11:31:13 <Morian> let me look at this 11:31:38 <Mic> I'll have a look if the patch on bug 514872 is pushed 11:32:03 <Morian> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-1.9.1/rev/fb0c1de78c61 11:32:14 <Morian> here is it 11:32:30 <Morian> it is * 11:33:19 <Mic> ok, I'll close the bug 11:34:21 <Morian> I like when things got repaired by "magic" :-D 11:34:21 <instantbot> leeraccount@yahoo.de set the Resolution field on bug 211 to FIXED. 11:34:23 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=211 maj, --, 0.2, nobody, RESO FIXED, Message Themes Variants are not recognized 11:34:47 <Mic> brb 11:34:49 <-- Mic has left #instantbird () 11:34:54 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 11:35:21 <Mic> ah, we should be able to change message themes without closing the conversation 11:35:29 <Mic> but it's not so easy I think 11:36:15 <Morian> It's not :/ 11:36:56 <Mic> We'd a sort of "replay chat" function if we'd want to do it with the current system 11:37:17 <Mic> *need 11:37:44 <Morian> Yes, but that's a weird solution, it will be too slow and anyway it's ugly ^^' 11:38:13 <Morian> there are other ways to apply CSS on live 11:39:04 <Mic> but it's not just css 11:39:28 <Mic> message styles can run javascripts as well afaik? 11:40:17 <Morian> mmmh maybe 11:40:30 <Morian> what I would like to have working is textbox ... 11:40:45 <Morian> it still flickers, resizes in a strange way etc... 11:40:47 <Morian> :( 11:40:47 <Mic> The magically resizing textbox? 11:41:00 <Morian> yes, the magic breaking of the textbox ^^' 11:42:20 <-- sonny has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 11:42:43 <Tro1> bye 11:43:17 <Morian> bye 11:43:33 <-- Tro1 has left #instantbird () 11:45:24 --> Tro1 has joined #instantbird 11:45:28 <-- Tro1 has left #instantbird () 11:49:57 <Mic> Morian: what's your opinion on a "Get Help" item on the Help menu that automatically brings users into this chat room? 11:50:45 <Mic> Tro1 had issues joining irc channels (most likely because he forgot to add "#" to the name) and many other might not even have heard of IRC before 11:51:03 <Morian> it sounds like a good idea, but we have to imagine a lot of things that can happen with this feature 11:51:35 <Morian> first we have to create an extra account, then connect it, join the channel, and explain to the user what is going on 11:51:59 <Mic> indeed 12:01:34 <-- GeekShadow has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 12:07:15 --> GeekShadow has joined #instantbird 13:44:18 <-- GeekShadow has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 14:15:16 --> flo has joined #instantbird 14:15:17 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo flo 14:24:07 <Mic> hej flo 14:24:15 <flo> hi 14:25:45 <flo> how are you? :) 14:27:02 <Mic> I'm fine, thanks 14:27:06 <Mic> How are you? 14:27:15 <flo> depressed :-P 14:27:48 <flo> (but I can fake a smiley and say I'm very happy today :)) 14:27:58 <flo> *smile 14:28:26 <Mic> Faking smilies doesn't help much in such a case .. 14:28:54 <flo> it helps a lot. It makes other people around smile too, and smiles are contagious ;) 14:33:21 <flo> usually, a good night of sleep helps a lot too :) 14:38:14 --> sonny has joined #instantbird 14:40:49 <instantbot> New Websites - Addons.instantbird.org bug 250 filed by pjdkrunkt@lycos.com. 14:40:51 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=250 nor, --, ---, raynaudquentin, UNCO, Need Categories for Themes. 14:42:36 <Mic> ach, es ist alles eitel .. :s 14:51:33 <Mic> https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=24 14:51:37 <instantbot> Mic: Bug 24 nor, P5, ---, florian, NEW, Command-W Does Not Close Buddy List Window 14:51:52 <Mic> Do we want that (I'd say yes)? 14:52:19 <Mic> If yes, I'd fix it on buddy list, message style and emoticon selection 14:52:36 <Mic> If not, we might as well close the bug as wontfix or such 14:54:38 <flo> I think we want Ctrl+W to minimize to tray (on Windows/Linux) 14:54:55 <flo> and closing (not minimizing) the buddy list should not stop the application on mac 14:57:04 <flo> oh, and don't worry about message style and emoticon selection windows. These window will disappear as soon as I finish the preference window (and hopefully, this is "soon") 14:57:36 <Mic> That's good, I just wanted to suggest to fix at least these 14:57:55 <Mic> and add a regular close button in the process ;) 14:59:39 <Mic> gtg 14:59:45 <Mic> Have a nice day 15:00:27 <-- Mic has left #instantbird () 15:16:46 <instantbot> raynaudquentin@gmail.com set the Resolution field on bug 250 to FIXED. 15:16:49 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=250 nor, --, ---, raynaudquentin, RESO FIXED, Need Categories for Themes. 15:29:23 <-- flo has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.2b1pre) 15:37:02 --> GeekShadow has joined #instantbird 15:38:47 <instantbot> New purplexpcom - General bug 251 filed by awillo@gmail.com. 15:38:49 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=251 nor, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, unable to authenticate : unknown error 16:35:25 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 16:35:37 <Mic> seen flo 16:35:43 <Mic> !seen flo 16:35:44 <instantbot> flo was last seen 1 hour, 38 minutes and 39 seconds ago, saying 'oh, and don't worry about message style and emoticon selection windows. These window will disappear as soon as I finish the preference window (and hopefully, this is "soon")' in 16:35:46 <instantbot> #instantbird. 16:50:31 <-- GeekShadow has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 16:52:12 --> Tro has joined #instantbird 16:52:25 <-- Tro has left #instantbird () 16:54:39 --> Tro has joined #instantbird 16:55:19 <Tro> hi 16:55:39 <Tro> I'm back. 16:55:44 <Morian> hi back 16:56:08 <-- Tro has left #instantbird () 16:56:40 --> Tro has joined #instantbird 16:56:46 <-- Tro has left #instantbird () 17:01:26 --> idechix has joined #instantbird 17:24:41 --> flo has joined #instantbird 17:24:41 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo flo 17:32:18 <-- Mic has left #instantbird () 17:33:46 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 18:46:25 <-- Mic has left #instantbird () 18:50:39 <-- Morian has quit (Ping timeout) 19:09:17 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 19:26:16 <-- Mic has left #instantbird () 19:27:49 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 19:34:44 --> Morian has joined #instantbird 19:38:49 <-- Mic has left #instantbird () 19:39:02 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 19:46:45 <Mic> What encoding/charset do strings in javascript as we use it have? 19:48:29 <Mic> Or doesn't it matter, because it's e.g. automatically converted to utf-8 if we call a scriptable function? 19:48:47 <Morian> I was not sure of the encoding but it doesn't matter 19:48:59 <Morian> since xulrunner is converting all of these 19:49:00 <Mic> ok 19:49:37 <Mic> I'm getting a strange error on the error console when trying to add an IRC channel to the buddy list 19:50:26 <Mic> https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=232#c1 19:50:30 <instantbot> Mic: Bug 232 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Can't add IRC channels to the buddy list 19:51:12 <Morian> mmmh 19:52:18 <Morian> it must be UTF8, and anyway a channel doesn't have special chars 19:52:34 <Morian> so .. I don't understand this error either 19:52:48 <Mic> It happens after calling addBuddy on purple core services 19:52:52 --> GeekShadow has joined #instantbird 19:56:36 <Morian> mmmh 19:56:57 <Morian> This error sounds like out of context ... 19:57:21 <Morian> but it is indeed a bug, since purple Core service should work in all cases 20:11:48 <-- idechix has left #instantbird () 20:15:40 <Morian> an idea would be to see if addBuddy can be used for IRC chans or if libpurple has something else 20:23:42 <Mic> :) 20:24:14 <Mic> Getting closer.. 20:28:09 <Morian> I woke up this morning with the idea that the NASA crashed a rocket on the moon. I felf stupid of thinking such a thing. 20:28:19 <Morian> but it was true ... -_-' 20:28:58 <Mic> TRUE, but FAIL :P 20:29:46 <Morian> ah they haven't found what they were looking for? 20:31:46 <Mic> The crashed the rocket and sent the satellite in right behind .. unfortunately the first crash didn't create the cloud of material that they expected 20:32:10 <Mic> So in worst case, there was no material that could have given any data 20:32:43 <Morian> ok, I didn't hear that it was such a fail :) 20:32:49 <Mic> This function only adds buddies :s 20:32:56 <Mic> http://lxr.instantbird.org/instantbird/source/purple/purplexpcom/src/purpleCoreService.cpp#570 20:33:11 <Mic> unfortunately we'd need to call http://lxr.instantbird.org/instantbird/source/purple/libpurple/blist.h#407 20:33:29 <Morian> :) 20:33:30 <Mic> #420 actually 20:34:03 <Morian> nice find 20:35:18 <Morian> would be nice to create a binding for this, or adapt the current function so that it is more "generic" 20:38:27 <Mic> I'd really like if people were able to use the same dialog for either 20:39:39 <Morian> this should be the same dialog yes. 20:40:04 <Morian> making the function generic so that it has an optional parameter or something like that 20:40:58 <Morian> and depending of the protocol it would be possible to specify whether it's a chat or a simple buddy 20:42:53 <Mic> we could add some logic to make it work on irc channels automatically as they're marked by a # 20:43:21 <Morian> yes 20:43:27 <Mic> On xmpp and others that support chats this might be more difficult (if there's no such indicator) 20:43:47 <Morian> but I though of something more "generic" so that all protocol even those which we don't know about would work 20:44:13 <Morian> that's why I came with the "choice of buddy or chat" thing 20:44:34 <Morian> but it may be overkill, I don't really know 20:44:38 <Mic> It could still automatically tick the box if the account is IRC and the name starts with # 20:44:51 <Morian> for example yes 21:08:01 <Mic> I think the choice if buddy or chat is a simple as it can get 21:39:26 <Mic> http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/8132/accountsubmenu.png 21:40:01 <Morian> "No accounts configured yet" is unnecessary 21:40:13 <Mic> Such a menu could allow to connect/disconnect quickly 21:40:14 <Morian> it would be displayed in < 1% of cases 21:40:52 <Mic> There should be the toolbar in the status bar one day 21:41:29 <Mic> Having it in the menus as well would make it easier to access it using the keyboard 21:50:24 <Mic> nn 21:50:50 <-- Mic has left #instantbird () 21:59:59 <-- sonny has quit (Ping timeout) 22:23:11 --> sonny has joined #instantbird 22:47:03 <-- sonny has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 22:57:25 --> GeekShado_ has joined #instantbird 22:58:56 <-- GeekShadow has quit (Ping timeout) 23:33:03 <-- rbezut has quit (Quit: leaving) 23:34:06 --> rbezut has joined #instantbird 23:44:49 <-- GeekShado_ has quit (Quit: The cake is a lie !) 23:48:57 <-- rbezut has quit (Quit: brb) 23:55:52 --> romain has joined #instantbird 23:58:14 <-- romain has quit (Quit: leaving) 23:58:18 --> rbezut has joined #instantbird