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00:02:53 <instantbot> Just appeared in Pidgin News - default : 00:02:54 <instantbot> http://theflamingbanker.blogspot.com/2009/10/pidgin-and-incredible-shrinking-finally.html - John Bailey: Pidgin and the Incredible Shrinking (Finally!)--And Growingâ½--About Box 00:32:18 <-- DGMurdockIII has quit (Quit: http://www.2404.org the best pc gaming news :: www.unitedservers.de ««« (Gamers.IRC) »»» gamersirc.net ::) 01:27:18 topic changed by ChanServ to "Ask questions about Instantbird here. Official website: http://www.instantbird.com. Latest release: 0.2a1. Read http://blog.instantbird.org/. Nightly builds are at http://ftp.instantbird.com/instantbird/nightly/latest-trunk/ (for testing purpose only)." 01:36:12 --> GeekShadow has joined #instantbird 01:37:30 <-- GeekShado_ has quit (Ping timeout) 01:41:16 <-- GeekShadow has quit (Quit: The cake is a lie !) 05:00:07 --> DGMurdockIII has joined #instantbird 05:20:40 <-- DGMurdockIII has quit (Quit: http://www.2404.org the best pc gaming news :: www.unitedservers.de ««« (Gamers.IRC) »»» gamersirc.net ::) 07:28:55 --> tt has joined #instantbird 07:29:12 <-- tt has left #instantbird () 10:08:38 --> GeekShadow has joined #instantbird 10:53:23 --> tt has joined #instantbird 10:53:40 <tt> instantbot 10:53:41 <instantbot> tt: hello 10:53:57 <tt> http://ftp.instantbird.com/instantbird/l10n/ 10:54:34 <tt> instantbot: http://ftp.instantbird.com/instantbird/l10n/ 10:54:37 <instantbot> tt: Sorry, I've no idea what 'http://ftp.instantbird.com/instantbird/l10n/' might be. 10:54:44 <tt> instantbot: What's this? 10:54:45 <instantbot> tt: Was it not... er, someone, who said: this is exactly the same with some patches (but i does not affect strings) 10:55:12 <tt> instantbot: Morian icq 10:55:14 <instantbot> tt: Sorry, I've no idea what 'Morian icq' might be. 10:55:28 <tt> instantbot: morian 10:55:29 <instantbot> tt: hmm... I think Morian is my master. 11:15:49 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 11:24:17 <Mic> hi 11:24:29 <Morian> hi Mic 11:27:44 --> sonny has joined #instantbird 11:29:28 --> gfire_julian has joined #instantbird 11:29:39 <-- gfire_julian has left #instantbird () 11:34:00 <-- sonny has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 11:47:22 <tt> Hi Mic, Morian :) 11:47:46 <tt> http://ftp.instantbird.com/instantbird/l10n/instantbird-fr-4ac657f92c11e.xpi 11:47:53 <tt> What's this? 11:47:56 <tt> Morian 11:48:43 <tt> French Locale? 11:50:00 <Morian> yes 11:55:32 <tt> The lines are frozen for a beta? 11:55:50 <Morian> don't know 11:56:50 <tt> Can I begin to do the translation on its basis? 11:57:10 <Morian> I think you can, ask Eventreur for more information 11:57:55 <tt> I will try to finish by tomorrow evening. 11:58:33 <tt> You can post it on the site? 11:58:39 <tt> instantbird ftp 11:59:08 <Morian> preference window is still pending, so a translation would be outdated quickly 11:59:43 <tt> How do I contact him? 11:59:45 <Morian> I know nothing about translation system, but Eventreur is working on it 11:59:53 <Morian> mmmh 12:00:23 <Morian> firstname.lastname@example.org 12:00:41 <tt> If anything, I'm adjusting. I will translate at least part of it. 12:01:45 <tt> I simply replaces the string with the French locale on its own, to me it's easier. 12:04:37 <tt> Morian 12:04:50 <Morian> mmmh ? 12:05:36 --> gfire_julian has joined #instantbird 12:05:42 <-- gfire_julian has left #instantbird () 12:07:37 <tt> In Beta 1 will be the Preferences window, or it will have to release? 12:07:40 <tt> 0.2 12:08:24 <Morian> it will be in beta1 12:09:18 <Morian> that's why you should wait until beta1 to translate 12:10:03 <tt> It will be the same as in Firefox and Thunderbird (I mean appearance)? 12:10:17 <Morian> yes 12:10:48 <tt> Make a separate file, to make it easier to translate. 12:11:21 <tt> preferences.dtd and preferences.properties 12:12:25 <Morian> I don't know how it's going to be, that's basically why you should wait 12:12:51 <Morian> but if you can't wait until beta1, just do what you want, and we'll see what to do 12:13:29 <tt> Okay, I'll wait for candidates to 0.2b1. 12:15:06 <Morian> note that we will be very demanding on translations, so using google to make translation will send the result to trash. 12:17:12 <Morian> We won't accept a we won't accept an approximate translation. Don't apply in translating instantbird if you can't speak and read english by yourself. 12:21:41 <tt> Hmm. The presence of the English language in Instantbird makes me doubt whether you need to transfer the general knowledge of the English language? 12:23:28 <tt> But if anything, I have a friend, he knows English much better than I do. 12:24:03 <Morian> we'll see 12:25:40 <tt> By the way, how can you check? 12:26:00 <Morian> in doubt, we won't publish it :) 12:26:04 <Morian> :p 12:27:01 <Morian> and surely there are people at mozilla or if we make a public announcement for translation we can find people to help us translating or checking translations 12:32:02 <tt> You said they are indifferent to Instantbird. ;) 12:33:08 <Morian> if we ask for a quick check they probably won't decline 12:35:06 <tt> Well, your case. ;) 12:39:55 <tt> bye 12:40:11 <Morian> bye 12:42:49 <-- tt has left #instantbird () 12:54:43 --> tt has joined #instantbird 12:55:41 <tt> That's me again. 12:57:57 <tt> Morian, but not you afraid that translators can translate from Mozilla is worse, and the lie that the translation was bad, and set informal interpreters idiots (like envy)? 12:58:34 <tt> What would you do? 12:59:03 <tt> instantbot: seen Morian 12:59:04 <instantbot> morian was last seen 18 minutes and 52 seconds ago, saying 'bye' in #instantbird. 12:59:21 <tt> hmm 12:59:24 <Morian> Sorry I don't even understand you ... 13:00:03 <Morian> and honestly I am tired of reading sentences 5 times 13:04:13 <tt> What happens if an interpreter from the Mozilla will lie, that the translation was bad, and make own little different from the previous (possibly worse) as you will understand what is better? 13:04:42 <Morian> translators from mozilla are by definition reliable :) 13:05:34 <tt> But still, there is such a thing as envy. 13:06:25 <tt> You give users a choice? 13:07:09 <Morian> choice of what ? 13:08:23 <tt> Select translation. 13:10:09 <Morian> they won't have choice. But I hope they'll report bad translation if they find them 13:22:58 <tt> You amaze me. What users will compare the translation? I have not once encountered by those who have found in my words typo (note, not a bug!), And instead tell me about it, just paraphrased my words, and appropriated it to himself, and my be removed! 13:23:05 <tt> :@ :'( 13:26:57 --> Morian_ has joined #instantbird 13:28:22 <-- Morian has quit (Ping timeout) 13:56:08 <Eventreur> plo 13:56:09 <Eventreur> plop 13:56:22 <Morian_> hey 13:56:24 <Eventreur> I just added a captcha to create accounts. 13:56:28 <Eventreur> (on the wiki) 13:56:34 <Morian_> good idea :) 13:56:35 * Morian_ is now known as Morian 13:56:44 <Eventreur> I also thought about email validation but it seems that very bot has a validated page. 13:56:49 <Eventreur> validated email 13:56:54 <Morian> ah 13:56:55 <Morian> :( 13:56:55 <Eventreur> I don't know how they do that... 13:57:02 <Eventreur> We don't even send validation emails... 13:57:13 <Eventreur> Or I don't know we do. 13:57:38 <Eventreur> capcha looks more reliable :) 13:58:34 <tt> but it has already learned to decipher 13:58:53 <Eventreur> Morian: If you could make me a list of bots usernames, I would be very grateful. 13:59:17 <Eventreur> And if you have some SQL knowledge, I would love to have it on a delete from table basis : 13:59:18 <Eventreur> :P 14:00:12 <Morian> haha ... 14:01:04 <Eventreur> Something like 'DELETE FROM user WHERE user_name IN ("user1", "user2", ...) 14:01:06 <Morian> just create a page with a list of username of something like this, and a list of checkboxes, and then tab + space :p 14:01:12 <tt> You need to prevent long and meaningless nicknames. 14:01:45 <Eventreur> Yeah, I would love to do that but honestly I don't have time to think about it. 14:02:26 <Eventreur> But if someone do the biggest part of the work to disable the unwanted accounts, I'll go through the process of deleting them. 14:03:12 <Morian> disable or just do a list ? 14:04:06 <Eventreur> I'lkl delete them. 14:04:18 <-- tt has left #instantbird () 14:04:19 <Eventreur> Just give me a list and I'll do the rest. 14:04:43 <Eventreur> Let's say something like : 14:04:43 <Eventreur> username1 14:04:43 <Eventreur> username2 14:04:43 <Eventreur> (one username per line) is going to be great enough. 14:05:12 <Morian> yeah yeah the problem is not syntax or SQL, the problem is to do the list itself XD 14:11:29 <Eventreur> Yep. 14:11:32 <Eventreur> I know that :P 14:38:30 * Morian is fighting differential equations of second order in electronics ... I hesitate to add the clean wiki spammers on my todo list ^^' 14:38:44 <Morian> erf my /me is broken ... 14:59:51 <-- Eventreur has quit (Connection reset by peer) 14:59:54 --> Eventreur has joined #instantbird 14:59:54 * ChanServ sets mode +o Eventreur 14:59:55 <instantbot> Evennnn! It's so good to see ya!' 15:04:24 <-- Eventreur has quit (Ping timeout) 15:05:04 --> Eventreur has joined #instantbird 15:05:04 * ChanServ sets mode +o Eventreur 15:20:00 <Mic> Even: what is a spammer to you? 15:20:07 <Mic> Someone who has actually spammed 15:20:22 <Mic> or even someone who just matches their naming pattern? 15:20:59 <Morian> I guess they are someone with a strange nickname and "viagra" on their personal page 15:34:21 <-- GeekShadow has quit (Quit: The cake is a lie !) 15:34:23 --> vicnet has joined #instantbird 15:34:43 <Mic> Users with strange nicknames (filtered user list): http://pastebin.instantbird.com/34 15:35:13 <Mic> OBS: These users don't nceessarily have spam on their user pages, they just have strange names 15:36:01 <Mic> I checked the list twice, still: be careful what you do with it .. 15:36:35 <Morian> Mic: This looks correct 15:36:47 <Morian> people usually don't have such long nicknames ... 15:37:58 <Mic> I just sorted out DGMurdock, Morian, Mic, Shredder, and another guy whose name I can't remember right now (flo and even don't appear in the list of normal users) 15:38:50 <Morian> (haha) 15:39:14 <Morian> I don't think we are more than that registered in the wiki 15:43:50 <Mic> "underscore", that was him .. 15:54:19 <Mic> btw I think I haven't changed the time to keep the item in pastebin, so if you choose to use it, remember to copy it in time 15:59:43 <Morian> I guess eventreur can already use this list to delete these users 16:05:32 --> tt has joined #instantbird 16:05:39 <-- tt has left #instantbird () 16:10:07 <Mic> Make sure the users don't contain anything evil ;) (cf http://xkcd.com/327/ ) 16:13:25 <Morian> haha 16:13:38 <Morian> I've already seen this one :) 16:13:41 <Morian> this is funny 17:00:51 --> gfire_julian has joined #instantbird 17:01:04 <-- gfire_julian has left #instantbird () 18:37:59 <-- Mic has left #instantbird () 19:26:27 --> sonny has joined #instantbird 19:49:12 <-- sonny has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 20:32:52 --> GeekShadow has joined #instantbird 20:36:37 <-- GeekShadow has quit (Ping timeout) 20:37:31 --> GeekShadow has joined #instantbird 20:49:50 <-- GeekShadow has quit (Connection reset by peer) 20:50:09 --> GeekShadow has joined #instantbird 21:06:27 --> idechix has joined #instantbird 21:23:06 --> GeekShado_ has joined #instantbird 21:24:23 <-- GeekShadow has quit (Ping timeout) 21:27:57 --> Morian_ has joined #instantbird 21:28:30 <-- Morian has quit (Ping timeout) 21:28:35 * Morian_ is now known as Morian 21:56:20 <-- vicnet has quit (Ping timeout) 22:00:04 --> vicnet has joined #instantbird 22:34:14 <-- idechix has left #instantbird () 23:01:31 --> matthewrbowker has joined #instantbird 23:01:50 <-- matthewrbowker has left #instantbird () 23:53:39 --> DGMurdockIII has joined #instantbird 23:59:39 <-- vicnet has quit (Quit: bye)