#instantbird log on 09 11 2009

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00:50:50 <Morian_> Eventreur: I have looked at your bash library, the problem with multiple spaces can be solved by putting the "curl ..." result in a > temp_file rather than a variable (don't know why).
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07:48:58 <Eventreur> here
07:51:21 <Eventreur> Morian_: what do you mean exactly y putting the result in a temp file ? Not executing the command with backquotes but having the command's return in a file is resolving the problem ?
07:51:42 <Morian__> yes
07:52:35 <Morian__> I did something like this to preserve double spaces (it's dirtier but it works :()
08:00:32 <Eventreur> I don't understand...
08:01:00 <Eventreur> How in the world changin the rediretion of the output possibly can change the way the command behave ?
08:01:37 <Morian__> I think it's more PAGE=`SOMETHING with spaces ` which is broken
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08:02:37 <Morian> going to school ><'
08:02:46 <Morian> see you later
08:04:43 <Eventreur> Ok.
08:04:48 <Eventreur> But stil, it's not logical.
08:05:05 <Eventreur> I tried the command it executed in commandl line and had the same results (no bacquote)
08:05:11 <Eventreur> ...
08:25:54 <Eventreur> Ok.
08:26:08 <Eventreur> I found a way without a temp file too :).
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08:31:10 <instantbot> Welcome back flo, I missed you.
08:32:00 <flo> hi :)
09:02:13 <Mitch> flo: You should program instantbot to run up and lick your face.
09:03:51 <flo> I've no control over instantbot. I can just kick/ban it if it becomes too annoying :-D
09:08:09 <Eventreur> If you kick it, it is probably going to come back right away.
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11:59:46 <Morian> "<Eventreur> I found a way without a temp file too :)." oh ?
12:00:06 <Morian> I am *interested* :)
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14:15:46 <Raven> Hi
14:16:56 <Raven> Hey, people!
14:17:45 <Raven> Goodbye :( 
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14:17:55 <flo> ?
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15:18:53 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/b9cce1921661 - Florian Qu?ze - Add a preference to disable automatic connections at startup.
15:18:54 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/bd56c7f942bb - Romain Bezut - Use a preference for the maximum default height of the textbox in conversations. r=fqueze
15:18:55 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/6f66445aa1e1 - Florian Qu?ze - Use new typing, typed and unknown icons from idechix in conversation tabs.
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17:49:12 <instantbot> Welcome back flo, I missed you.
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18:29:11 <DGMurdockIII> 2(GeekShadow2): hi
18:30:28 <GeekShadow> DGMurdockIII, hello
18:30:38 <DGMurdockIII> how have you been
18:30:56 <DGMurdockIII> have you thougt about writing any addon for instantbird
18:33:35 <DGMurdockIII> i found a ui bug
18:33:53 <DGMurdockIII> hold on a sec and i'll shoe you
18:33:56 <DGMurdockIII> show
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18:47:19 <DGMurdockIII> i'll link you to a screen shot in a sec
18:47:51 <DGMurdockIII> http://i32.tinypic.com/6edbmd.jpg
18:52:06 <DGMurdockIII> 2(flo2): Error: next.textCodes is undefined
18:52:06 <DGMurdockIII> Source File: chrome://instantbird/content/smileys.js
18:52:06 <DGMurdockIII> Line: 93
18:54:36 <Morian> DGMurdockIII: are you using a custom smiley theme ?
18:54:50 <DGMurdockIII> i have one installed
18:56:14 <DGMurdockIII> dose that count
18:58:27 <Morian> yes it counts :)
18:59:08 <Morian> thanks for your report, I guess flo will take a look at it, I think he has already spotted the problem :)
19:02:57 <DGMurdockIII> what about the ui problem i spoted
19:03:11 <DGMurdockIII> where the buttomns are not all the way vissable
19:03:17 <Morian> ah
19:03:27 <Morian> have you resized the window to get this ?
19:03:34 <Morian> or is it the default behavior §?
19:04:06 <DGMurdockIII> not it wont let me on this windowsa
19:04:09 <DGMurdockIII> window
19:04:14 <Morian> ok
19:04:44 <Morian> I tend to think of a "mozilla" bug, let me take a look
19:05:22 <Morian> ah no
19:06:24 <DGMurdockIII> i thnk it a instantbird bug
19:06:29 <Morian> it is
19:06:38 <Morian> windows 7 I suppose?
19:06:46 <DGMurdockIII> yeah 64bit
19:06:53 <Morian> do you have a custom windows theme?
19:06:58 <DGMurdockIII> no
19:07:18 <Morian> ok
19:09:07 <Morian> to fix it we have to change the height of the window from 150px to ~165px (at least on Seven)
19:12:50 <GeekShadow> Morian, there is a couple of bugs related to Windows 7 on bugzilla
19:13:00 <GeekShadow> it's due for gecko 1.9.2
19:13:20 <Morian> ok I didn't know :)
19:13:43 <Morian> on the screenshot the dropdown lists seem too tall ..
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19:21:09 <DGMurdockIII> ok
19:21:21 <DGMurdockIII> 2(Mic2): http://i32.tinypic.com/6edbmd.jpg
19:21:31 <DGMurdockIII> 2(Mic2): Error: next.textCodes is undefined
19:21:32 <DGMurdockIII> Source File: chrome://instantbird/content/smileys.js
19:21:32 <DGMurdockIII> Line: 93
19:34:24 <flo> Morian: I think to fix that window we will need to call window.sizeToContent() or something like that. Changing the defaut height is not a real solution because the number of fields will vary depending on the protocol
19:34:43 <Morian> ok
19:35:06 <flo> "21:21:32 - DGMurdockIII: Error: next.textCodes is undefined" That error is because you have a smiley theme that needs to be updated.
19:38:21 <Morian> but shouldn't we check that even with a bad smiley theme is doesn't show this error ?
19:38:32 <Morian> a test on the existence of this variable?
19:39:27 <Mic> hi
19:42:18 <Morian> hi mic :)
19:42:28 <flo> Morian: no
19:42:36 <flo> we want this error to be visible for smiley theme authors
19:42:38 <Morian> brb going to eat with a friend in real life (!)
19:42:41 <flo> they need to know something is wrong
19:42:50 <Morian> flo: ok
19:42:54 <Mic> have fun
19:42:58 <flo> :)
19:43:00 <Morian> thanks ^^'
19:43:26 * Morian wishes he could invite instantbot for diner but ... :(
19:43:35 <flo> you said "real life" :-P
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19:55:10 <Mic> Rescaling the conversation browser content with the smilies just reminded me of the no-svg-in-img-tags bug
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20:13:35 <deOmega> Use a preference for the maximum default height of the textbox in conversations. r=fqueze
20:13:39 <deOmega> THANK YOu  :)
20:13:51 <flo> deOmega: you can set it to 1 ;)
20:14:15 <flo> we discussed and added that preference after your comment ;)
20:14:20 <deOmega> absolutely awesome :)  thanks a lot
20:14:30 <flo> you are welcome
20:18:34 <deOmega> It is amazing  what keeps some folks from not using a messenger .......... I have a friend that likes digsby ok enough,  but refused to use  Digsby because teh entire message window would not  resize  small enough.   Says he ants his messenger to be always visible, but needs it to take up only a small  amount of space
20:19:09 <deOmega> Instantbird resizes nicely, but of course.... is is not going to extract it etc
20:19:46 <deOmega> So that is what he is waiting on, and i know you know this and is working on it.
20:20:28 <deOmega> Asare many others .... but i am really  personally very pleased as a user, with the progress.
20:20:45 <deOmega> truly appreciate the work you guys are putting in.
20:21:22 <deOmega> I suppose one of teh problems with having   choices is people become incredibly  'picky'
20:27:42 <deOmega> this problem by DGM: http://i32.tinypic.com/6edbmd.jpg
20:28:00 <deOmega> Idff it matters, it barely makes it on windows vista
20:28:10 <deOmega> if it matters
20:28:18 <deOmega> or helps
20:32:21 <flo> "teh problems with having choices" choices as in having competitors (digsby, etc...) or having lots of preferences and possible preference values that mixed together can cause bugs that we aren't aware of?
20:36:44 <deOmega> competitors
20:37:43 <flo> it's nice to see competition ;)
20:38:03 <deOmega> It is a mild statement in jest,  in line with  ' the problem with kids to day... too many darn choices...'
20:38:18 <deOmega> indeed.  certainly drives innovation
20:39:21 <flo> yes, we want more innovation in the IM area. If one day Instantbird become significant enough to force competitors to innovate, we will be very happy.
20:39:44 <flo> Promoting innovation is part of our goal.
20:40:19 <deOmega> I think it will.. i have confidence it will.   If  there was aplace to bet on it, i would take the bet :)
20:42:46 <deOmega> wel, i have had an extremely tough, though productive  week, even considering it was a 4 day  work week:). I am gonna go and rest my head.   See you around.
20:42:55 <flo> I think that place is right here. And you are already betting on it by spending some of your time with testing builds, reporting bugs, and suggesting improvements
20:43:10 <flo> see you :)
20:43:34 <deOmega> flo:Very kind of you to say..  thanks.      Later
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20:52:16 <flo> good night!
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22:02:35 <Mic> ping
22:03:10 <Morian> pwonf
22:03:31 <Mic> you lag.
22:03:42 <Morian> 4 seconds :)
22:04:03 <Morian> wow
22:04:04 <Morian> O_o
22:04:23 <Morian> I am tired XD 59  - 25 != 4 :p
22:42:16 <Mic> good night
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23:56:02 <Mic> Morian: the auto-size textbox does very strange things here
23:56:21 <Morian> ah ?
23:56:27 <Mic> ah, still here ..
23:56:28 <Mic> Everything seems fine as long as you haven't resized it manually 
23:56:44 <Morian> have you steps to reproduce this bug ?
23:56:52 <Mic> If you have used the splitter and resize the window itself after that
23:57:00 <Mic> the height of the box keeps growing
23:57:01 <Morian> is it related with resizing the conversation window?
23:57:52 <Morian> I am currently working on a patch about textbox and window resizing (it's been a couple of days so far ... but flo keeps giving me r-)
23:57:52 <Morian> :(
23:57:55 <Morian> (by mail)
23:58:24 <Morian> (does it behave correctly at least when you don't resize the window?)