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00:00:44 <-- Mic has left #instantbird () 00:06:46 --> stevo has joined #instantbird 00:10:08 <-- stevo has quit (Ping timeout) 00:22:21 --> stevo has joined #instantbird 00:33:30 <-- deOmega has quit (Quit: ) 00:36:50 <-- stevo has quit (Ping timeout) 00:40:41 <DGMurdockIII> I foind a problem 00:41:03 <DGMurdockIII> if someone has signed off and you send them a message 00:41:47 <DGMurdockIII> there is no message that come back saying the user is offline and will not recive your message 00:58:41 <Morian> ah 00:58:50 <DGMurdockIII> yeah 00:58:53 <Morian> but it is "normal" on some protocols 00:59:00 <Morian> it sends offline messages 00:59:13 <DGMurdockIII> yeah but on yahoo messenger 00:59:24 <Morian> I don't know yahoo messenger :) 00:59:45 <DGMurdockIII> they send a message back saying that the offline mesagehas been sent and will be sent when uses sign back on 00:59:45 <Morian> it may have some kind of offline mode, flo knows ^^' 01:01:44 <-- sonny has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 01:02:05 <DGMurdockIII> http://www.ymessengerblog.com/blog/2009/01/12/updated-version-of-90-now-available/ 01:02:31 <DGMurdockIII> A new version of the offline message window. Youll now find a distinction between offline messages from friends on your list and those that arent, as well as easier spam reporting 01:03:16 <DGMurdockIII> A new location for the typing notification message. When youre in an IM conversation, youll notice that the XXXX is typing a message notification now appears inline with the conversation up above (rather than at the bottom of the IM window). 01:03:54 <DGMurdockIII> if i can find a picture of that not saying we should copy that i just think it could be a idea 01:04:53 <Morian> ok 01:04:53 <Morian> :) 01:07:28 <DGMurdockIII> http://www.ymessengerblog.com/blog/2009/08/04/more-video-and-photo-sites-now-supported-in-9-0/ 01:08:12 <Morian> I'll read it tomorrow, going to sleep right now ^^ 01:08:17 <Morian> bye all 01:08:26 <DGMurdockIII> will sms ever be added to instantbird 01:08:38 <Morian> one day probably :) 01:08:50 <Morian> but it's not a priority at all for now :D 01:09:16 <Morian> we still have a lot to do before thinking of protocol specific features 01:11:17 <DGMurdockIII> yeah 01:11:28 <DGMurdockIII> i can see that it starting to come along 07:03:28 <-- Even has left #instantbird () 07:03:53 --> Even has joined #instantbird 07:03:54 * ChanServ sets mode +o Even 08:28:19 <-- Even has left #instantbird () 08:28:59 --> flo has joined #instantbird 08:28:59 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo flo 08:29:00 <instantbot> Welcome back flo, I missed you. 08:38:07 --> Even has joined #instantbird 08:38:08 * ChanServ sets mode +o Even 08:39:18 <-- Even has left #instantbird () 08:39:25 --> Even has joined #instantbird 08:39:25 * ChanServ sets mode +o Even 08:48:23 --> GeekShadow has joined #instantbird 08:50:49 --> sonny has joined #instantbird 09:07:45 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 09:16:08 <-- sonny has quit (Client exited) 09:16:17 --> sonny has joined #instantbird 10:11:38 <-- Even has left #instantbird () 10:12:22 --> Even has joined #instantbird 10:12:22 * ChanServ sets mode +o Even 10:12:22 <-- GeekShadow has quit (Ping timeout) 10:17:31 --> GeekShadow has joined #instantbird 10:30:02 <-- Even has left #instantbird () 10:30:10 --> Even has joined #instantbird 10:30:10 * ChanServ sets mode +o Even 10:30:19 <-- GeekShadow has quit (Ping timeout) 10:36:47 --> GeekShado_ has joined #instantbird 10:40:19 <-- GeekShado_ has quit (Ping timeout) 10:43:20 --> GeekShadow has joined #instantbird 11:24:05 --> deOmega has joined #instantbird 11:31:29 <deOmega> Good morning...autohide tab issue resolved indeed. beautiful 11:31:37 <flo> cool :) 11:33:10 <deOmega> now fingers vrossed on the tab drag :) 11:33:24 <deOmega> it never ends, huh? 11:33:25 <flo> deOmega: useless. Already fixed 11:33:32 <flo> will be in next nightly :) 11:33:48 <deOmega> lol.... simply beautiful 11:33:52 <flo> well, depending on which exact issue you call the "tab drag" 11:34:55 <deOmega> I mentioned yesterday... not just the tab drag image, but on windows Vista 32 bit here.. you cannot drag the tab by clicking in the area of the name 11:35:12 <deOmega> you have to grab the edges of the tab 11:36:07 <flo> I'm not completely such, but that may be what we've just fixed 11:36:45 <flo> depending if "you cannot drag the tab" means that there's no visual feedback at all (what we have fixed) or that it really doesn't do anything (which would be an issue that we can't reproduce) 11:36:46 <deOmega> yeah, hopefully addressing the dragging image will address that 11:38:29 <deOmega> i will just wait for the update tomorrow to try again... it is not something i use much at all and even if i did, it is still possible to do it, but just nice to have it right 11:38:35 <deOmega> so, will let you know tomorrow 11:39:01 <flo> ok :) 11:39:09 <-- GeekShadow has quit (Connection reset by peer) 11:39:50 <deOmega> to be honest, i am just trying stuff that I know some people may use, though I may not use them myself 11:40:02 <flo> that's fine ;) 11:40:29 <deOmega> so do not ask me why i would want to do some of these things LOL I may not have an answer 11:41:00 <flo> of course you have one: "testing new features of nighlies" IS an answer 11:41:48 <deOmega> ah, I will copy that for future reference :) 11:42:32 <flo> hehe 11:42:46 --> GeekShadow has joined #instantbird 11:43:40 <-- Mic has left #instantbird () 11:44:37 <deOmega> I am ging to be distracted in a few mins.. i think, so a quickie... 11:44:57 <deOmega> are these in teh works? 11:45:17 <flo> these what? 11:45:42 <deOmega> 1. typing notify on the taskbar, as opposed to just the message window 11:46:03 <deOmega> 2. Minimize new message to tray 11:47:01 <deOmega> Buddy Icon on the task bar 11:47:05 <deOmega> those three 11:47:37 <deOmega> i am not sure that last one is clear, so let me explain.. 11:48:01 <deOmega> If i am having a conversation with Flo 11:48:35 <deOmega> it would show your name on teh taskbar and teh instantbird icon 11:48:37 <flo> buddy icon in the taskbar means using the buddy icon of the buddy in the current tab as the window icon? 11:48:57 <deOmega> would be nice if it showed YOUR iicon and your name 11:49:32 <deOmega> yes 11:49:48 <deOmega> i will let you respond while i get some breakfast :) 11:50:32 <flo> wouldn't that be misleading if you see my name and icon flashing in the taskbar because my tab is selected, but actually it's your wife who is telling you something in another tab? 11:53:49 <deOmega> rotflol 11:54:10 <deOmega> but it is that way now anyway 11:54:31 <deOmega> if i am in the flo tab and my wife sends me a message, it would be flo that would be flashing 11:55:06 <deOmega> but when i look at the message window itself, it would show me teh right tab that is flashing 11:55:22 <deOmega> and that seems to be teh case for all messengers I have used, if i a not mistaken 11:56:36 <flo> it's not because they are all broken that Instantbird needs to be broken too ;) 11:57:03 <deOmega> I like that :) 11:57:13 <deOmega> attitude 11:59:02 <Even> I concur about that. It's what happens on all IM that have tabs right now. 11:59:39 <flo> I don't think gmail does that 12:00:12 <flo> when you have new messages, it displays the name of the sender of new messages in the title bar of the browser. 12:00:15 <Even> Yes. But GMail does not change the windows name depending on the selected tab. 12:00:44 <Even> Since it has no tabs :P. 12:00:50 <Even> It tells you on which page you are. 12:00:54 <flo> ^^ 12:00:59 <Even> And give you a count of unread messages when they are. 12:01:09 <Even> *some 12:02:03 <Even> But it might be a good way of doing that. Something like tabname - 3 unread - Instantbird 12:02:15 <Even> Or something like that. 12:02:36 <flo> I think the unread count needs to be at the beginning to ensure visibility in the taskbar 12:02:40 <Even> But you can't possibly add in the window name the names of all tabs having unread messages. 12:02:47 <Even> It's a window info. 12:02:55 <Even> Yeah, why not ? 12:03:00 <Even> Should be great. 12:03:10 <flo> maybe 12:03:21 <flo> I don't know. There's no taskbar on mac :-P 12:03:47 <Even> Yeah I know that... 12:03:54 <Even> But sometimes it actually is useful :). 12:04:00 <flo> and my unread count dock badge is completely broken :( 12:04:05 <Even> ^^ 12:04:15 <flo> I need to fix it to work with multiple windows 12:04:30 <Even> I would like to see the MessageNotifier extension patched. 12:04:43 <flo> well 12:04:46 <Even> It's sad that it does not work anymore. 12:04:48 <flo> ask idechix, or do it yourself :-P 12:05:26 <Even> Yeah, I'll ask him to look at it. It's him who wrote NickServKiller too isn'it ? 12:05:37 <Even> I'll ask him to fix that one too if it's the case :). 12:06:08 <Even> I'll review them quickly if he does that. 12:06:36 <flo> he may not be very available these days though :-/ 12:06:46 <Even> Yeah, I know that. 12:07:00 <Even> It might give him a chance to think about something else... 12:07:06 <flo> maybe :) 12:07:15 <Even> Might as well work as not. 12:11:12 <deOmega> so 1 and 2 in the works? 12:11:31 <flo> not really. 12:11:44 <deOmega> btw, i enjoyed the dialog between the two of you just now 12:11:45 <flo> except if someone starts to work on it of course :) 12:12:13 <deOmega> lol, i heard that even is planning on working on them 12:13:09 <deOmega> dunno how true that is :) 12:13:21 <flo> that would surprise me :) 12:13:55 <deOmega> hehe 12:16:16 <deOmega> that minimize to to taskbar of new messages though is really a big deal I think though...apart from guys tryig to keep secrets from their wives...(I will show my wife this post)... I would think it is a critical thing for guys that use messenger on the job 12:16:54 <deOmega> imagine your boss standing over you right after you closed out yoru tabs to hide them, and a new messagecomes in... pops right up in your face 12:17:01 <flo> or during a video 12:17:35 <deOmega> rotflol... powerpoint presentation 12:17:36 <flo> imagine you are enjoying a nice p... video, and a stupid message window pops up in the middle of the screen 12:18:04 <deOmega> a message from your wife, huh? 12:18:11 <deOmega> mood killer 12:18:24 <flo> deOmaga: so, really, you want a "boss protection" feature. Like "Press Ctrl+shift+H" and everything related to IMs disappear completely of the screen 12:19:00 <flo> Command+H does just that on the mac: "Hide Instantbird" 12:19:09 <deOmega> well, that would be nice, but I think that most importantly, if you do that it wou dhave to suppress new messages also 12:19:19 <flo> most mac applications support that keyboard shortcut 12:19:27 <deOmega> I do not have a boss.. so, th eboss killer thing i have never needed 12:19:54 <deOmega> I have never even looked into them, but that sounds nice forongoing conversations 12:20:04 <deOmega> the problem is new conversation windows popping up 12:20:22 <deOmega> and to beat that or help, iwould say iminimize to taskbar 12:20:54 <deOmega> they would see teh new messageflashing or highlighted, but would have to click on it to see its content 12:22:00 <deOmega> sorry, I do have a boss.. my wife 12:38:24 <-- sonny has quit (Ping timeout) 12:51:12 --> sonny has joined #instantbird 14:05:02 --> DetroitLibertyPenguin has joined #instantbird 14:27:10 <deOmega> come on instantbot, post something to scroll my words 14:27:28 <Even> instantbot: post something ! 14:27:32 <instantbot> Even: Sorry, I've no idea what 'post something' might be. 14:27:36 <Even> :p 14:27:41 <flo> well, that's already something 14:27:45 <instantbot> I have nothing to say... sorry 14:27:46 <Even> Yeah ! 14:28:05 <deOmega> lol 14:28:18 <deOmega> instantbot:good morning 14:28:19 <instantbot> deOmega 14:28:46 <deOmega> hmm.. but now I know 14:28:53 <Even> :) 14:29:06 <Even> instantbot is nice :P 14:29:09 <instantbot> Even: Sorry, I've no idea what 'is nice :P' might be. 14:29:15 <flo> hmm, the right border on the nicklist looks useless 14:29:19 <instantbot> Not as nice as flo <3 14:29:42 <Even> True ! 14:29:49 <flo> instantbot: is Morian bored? 14:29:51 <Even> flo has some use at least :P 14:29:52 <instantbot> flo: Sorry, I've no idea what 'is Morian bored' might be. 14:30:00 <Even> And he is not spamming me :P 14:30:15 <Morian> !8ball Do I look to be bored? 14:30:16 <instantbot> Morian: One would be wise to think so. 14:30:26 <Morian> k 14:30:40 <deOmega> LOL, this is truly amazing 14:30:53 <Even> Yeah, even more when it is right :P 14:30:58 <deOmega> looks liek someone is putting in codes as we go along though 14:31:10 <flo> deOmega: Morian controls it ;) 14:31:21 <deOmega> Oh lol 14:31:32 <Even> The 8ball thing is automated I think. 14:31:38 <flo> it would be nice if someone could finish that completion patch ;) 14:31:39 <Morian> it is 14:31:47 <deOmega> the not as nice as flo was slick 14:31:47 <Even> I had a good feeling about it :P 14:32:09 <Even> !8ball Is flo stupid? 14:32:10 <instantbot> Even: NO! 14:32:15 <Even> So good :P 14:36:09 <deOmega> lol 14:40:07 <Even> test : 14:40:14 <flo> Event: fail 14:40:18 <Even> !8ball Is flo stupid? 14:40:19 <instantbot> Even: Unlikely. 14:40:24 <Even> lol 14:40:26 <Even> It works. 14:40:49 <Even> Let's try with one more... 14:40:57 <Even> !8ball Is flo stupid? 14:40:58 <instantbot> Even: NO! 14:41:11 * Morian won't reveal the secret algorithm :p 14:41:14 <Even> There is a trim :P 14:41:31 <Even> Sorry Morian. i'm not stupid. 14:41:38 <Even> I found how it works right away. 14:41:47 <Morian> ah ? :( 14:41:47 <Even> Just I was wondering is spaces were trimed or not :P 14:41:53 <Even> *if 14:41:58 <Even> It seems to be the case. 14:42:10 <Morian> you looked into the module code source ? 14:42:12 <Even> (I sent my question with one space at the end and then two) 14:42:16 <Even> Nop. 14:42:50 <Even> I asked myself how a stupid guy would write something complicated like that and the answer was obvious. 14:43:39 <flo> Even: s/stupid/lazy/ 14:43:50 <Even> Yeah. 14:43:53 <Even> Better :) 14:44:51 <Morian> btw "secret algorithm" was ironicall since I have looked into the source code ;) 14:45:20 <Even> I knew that. 14:45:53 <flo> hmm 14:46:05 <flo> any idea of how I can resize that stupidly large splitter? 14:46:18 <flo> height: 1px !important; does nothing 14:46:23 <flo> the computed height is still 9px 14:50:02 <flo> ah, ok, min-height: 9px; is more important than height: 1px !important: 15:02:37 <flo> see you later! 15:02:47 <-- flo has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.2b1pre) 15:02:59 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/9879d69947f1 - Florian Qu?ze - Improve debug messages in purpleConvChat.cpp. 15:03:00 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/61392932a237 - Florian Qu?ze - Get rid of leftover tab drop indicators. 15:03:01 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/b5908a262291 - Florian Qu?ze - Connect nullprpl accounts even when offline in debug builds. r=Morian 15:03:02 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/bac61149abd8 - Florian Qu?ze - Follow-up to a3ea67f3841f: fix nicklist and topic bar brokenness. 15:03:03 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/f6fea53609e2 - Florian Qu?ze - Do not use the default cursor while dragging a tab. 15:03:04 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/a4161345eaff - Romain Bezut - Display tabs while dragging them. r=fqueze 15:03:05 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/af21fac64c3a - Florian Qu?ze - Various minor style improvements in conversations. 15:08:18 <-- Even has left #instantbird () 15:08:24 --> Even has joined #instantbird 15:08:24 * ChanServ sets mode +o Even 15:08:51 <-- Even has left #instantbird () 15:09:05 --> Even has joined #instantbird 15:09:05 * ChanServ sets mode +o Even 15:09:07 <-- Even has left #instantbird () 15:09:18 --> Even has joined #instantbird 15:09:18 * ChanServ sets mode +o Even 17:21:16 --> flo has joined #instantbird 17:21:16 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo flo 17:21:17 <instantbot> Welcome back flo, I missed you. 17:54:46 <deOmega> instantbot: are they working on anything right now or Napping? 17:54:50 <instantbot> deOmega: Sorry, I've no idea what 'are they working on anything right now or Napping' might be. 17:55:46 <deOmega> instantbot: where is everyone? 17:55:49 <instantbot> deOmega: Sorry, I've no idea what 'everyone' is. 17:56:22 <deOmega> instantbot:where is morian? 17:56:23 <instantbot> deOmega: hmm... I think Morian is my master. 17:56:32 <deOmega> lol 17:56:41 <Morian> >< 17:56:54 <Morian> I am not working :) 17:57:02 <Morian> flo is away from keyboard, I don't know 17:57:21 <deOmega> ok, i just thought it was quiet is all 17:58:06 <Morian> 7 patches has been posted today already, to improve tab system 17:58:24 <deOmega> to be in tonight? 17:58:26 <Morian> hope we approaching the end of the bug list concerning this ^^' 17:59:01 <Morian> they have already been pushed, (instantbot said Check-in:, that means pushed on the server and ready for the next nightly) 17:59:14 <deOmega> ohhhhhhhhh 17:59:26 <deOmega> I meantto ask what that meant 17:59:41 <deOmega> let me ask you if you have a minute 18:00:03 <deOmega> in the about:config 18:00:07 <Morian> I am anxious to know if the bug you has on tabs (drag and drop) is fixed :) 18:00:10 <deOmega> what is that autocopy all about? 18:00:20 <deOmega> me too 18:01:03 <deOmega> clipboard.autocopy false 18:01:09 <deOmega> i changed it to true 18:01:25 <Morian> mmmh, I don't know what autocopy is, have you took a look in all-instantbird.js? it may be documented there 18:01:31 <deOmega> I may have been making teh wrong assumption as to what it does 18:01:49 <Morian> http://kb.mozillazine.org/Clipboard.autocopy 18:01:58 <Morian> it is linux related 18:02:19 <deOmega> ah, ok 18:02:25 <Morian> so it won't change anything on windows, and I suppose it is eve.n a mistake to have it on windows 18:02:29 <deOmega> i thought that is what it was for, but does not work for me 18:02:32 <deOmega> ok, great 18:02:45 <deOmega> I do use the autocopy addon in firefox 18:03:03 <Morian> it does what is described on the URL? 18:03:16 <deOmega> the autocopy addon, yes 18:03:44 <Morian> I don't even know if this pref is really used on linux, autocopy works everywhere there 18:03:46 * Morian checks 18:03:57 <deOmega> http://foxyurl.com/to1 18:04:04 <deOmega> I use that in FF 18:04:18 <Morian> it is set to true by default on linux :) 18:04:56 <deOmega> ah, ok, and so set to false on windows.... ok 18:05:20 <Morian> but I don't know why it even (sorry Even :p) exists on windows 18:05:34 <deOmega> let me go turn it back off since it is no use 18:07:27 <deOmega> ok, that is handled :) 18:09:54 <deOmega> again, i am getting pretty comfortable with teh bird 18:10:07 <deOmega> have not had to run another messenger in a couple days now 18:10:59 <Morian> on this purpose, do you prefer the name of contact centered in their tab or aligned left? 18:11:02 <deOmega> Morian: forgot to tell you, word has it that you will be working on a minimize new message window feature 18:11:17 <deOmega> and that you will have it finished by this weekend 18:12:12 <deOmega> I think that center looks better, but, only thing is 18:12:21 <Morian> I don't like to work on things that doesn't work on all OSes :p, and I am far form familiar with the minimize to tray thing, flo is ^^ 18:12:37 <deOmega> wait.. i was joking above :) 18:12:48 <deOmega> so the thing about teh centering 18:12:58 <deOmega> seems like it may be best to have it on teh left 18:13:10 <Morian> ok 18:13:23 <deOmega> hmmm 18:13:26 <Morian> seems like I am the only one to prefer it centered XD 18:13:27 <deOmega> let me look again please 18:13:31 <deOmega> let me test something 18:13:46 <Morian> it will probably be back on the left in a few days ^^' 18:14:07 <deOmega> center does look better, but was thinking it chops teh name off prematurely if teh tab is small 18:15:06 <deOmega> ok, it does not seem to matter 18:15:16 <Morian> the name is cut the same way when it is centered or aligned left 18:15:29 <deOmega> right.. just realized 18:15:40 <deOmega> well i just made teh assumption 18:17:03 <deOmega> so to me, i do not know what to think :) center looks better 18:19:22 <Morian> ok 18:22:30 <deOmega> having said that, i am also assuming, because I do not know how it would hit m eon teh left side 18:55:23 <deOmega> instantbot: am I learning anything? 18:55:26 <instantbot> deOmega: Sorry, I've no idea what 'am I learning anything' might be. 18:55:41 <deOmega> teh answer is no 18:58:48 --> idechix has joined #instantbird 18:59:39 <-- idechix has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.2b1pre) 18:59:48 --> idechix has joined #instantbird 19:24:34 <-- idechix has left #instantbird () 20:19:16 <-- GeekShadow has quit (Connection reset by peer) 21:06:41 --> tooland has joined #instantbird 21:06:43 <-- tooland has quit (User has been banned from Mozilla (No spamming here)) 21:22:20 <-- deOmega has quit (Quit: ) 21:30:44 --> vicnet has joined #instantbird 22:40:19 <-- vicnet has quit (Quit: bye) 23:00:07 <-- DetroitLibertyPenguin has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.2b1pre) 23:07:28 <-- chaosblade has quit (Quit: chaosblade) 23:36:19 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 23:41:43 <Mic> I've experienced the "[NEED CONFIRM]"-bug on the tab-improvements list (or is that my report actually which would make my confirming it pretty useless?) 23:42:09 <Morian> mmh 23:42:15 <Morian> was it clearly visible ? 23:42:29 <Morian> we tried hard to reproduce it a few days ago on linux and mac and ... nothing 23:43:45 <Mic> yes, I think so 23:43:48 <Mic> I just tried it 23:43:58 <Morian> right now I try under windows, but it is soo fast that I can't say it clearly 23:44:23 <Mic> The instantbird chat tab flickers while two others (with no content/conversaion in it) don't 23:44:51 <Morian> mmmh, please post your details on the bug list :) 23:45:08 <Mic> I will. 23:46:45 <Morian> thanks :) 23:47:00 <Morian> i am trying to have an auto expandable textbox for instantbird ^^' 23:47:01 <Mic> hmm, content or not doesn't matter as it seems 23:47:16 <Mic> It's on chats/channels as it seems 23:47:56 <Morian> oh, we only tried with buddies, that may be the reason why we were not sure :) 23:48:14 <Mic> I'll post it 23:53:56 <Morian> I like this auto expandable textbox sooo much, hope that flo won't say "r- !" 23:53:57 <Morian> ><' 23:54:16 <Mic> What is it? 23:54:59 <Morian> the textbox (where you type) has now only one line when you open a conversation, and grows automatically depeding of the length of your message 23:55:21 <Morian> and when you post it, the textbox comes back to its "one line" height 23:55:34 <Mic> Will it move the content of the browser element? 23:55:36 <Morian> it's the way it works on Gmail, Gtalk, and Adium 23:56:28 <Morian> it will behaves exactly as when you change the height manually with the splitter 23:56:41 <Mic> (That's something that I don't like on Firefox: Notification will shift the content up and down, especially the auto-fading bar on fullscrenn view is annoying) 23:57:18 <Mic> well, the latter is no notification bar, but has the same problem 23:57:21 <Morian> yes this is the same thing 23:57:47 <Morian> but while you type you generally don't "read" the content above, well we'll try :)