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04:14:57 <-- gartral has quit (Quit: Why must we be chicken or sheep when we have the blood of the Fox, Wolf?) 05:34:47 <-- DGMurdockIII has quit (Quit: http://www.2404.org the best pc gaming news :: www.unitedservers.de ««« (Gamers.IRC) »»» gamersirc.net ::) 06:20:01 <-- SM0TVI has quit (Ping timeout) 06:41:52 <-- flo has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.2b1pre) 06:48:08 --> sonny has joined #instantbird 06:51:24 --> SM0TVI has joined #instantbird 07:29:44 --> GeekShadow has joined #instantbird 08:21:56 <-- sonny has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 08:22:00 --> sonny has joined #instantbird 08:27:19 --> flo has joined #instantbird 08:27:19 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo flo 08:27:20 <instantbot> Welcome back flo, I missed you. 08:27:29 <flo> hi! :) 08:51:05 <Morian> hi 09:26:39 --> Raven has joined #instantbird 09:33:07 <Raven> http://ftp.instantbird.com/instantbird/nightly/latest-trunk/ 09:33:07 <Raven> Where is for Windows? 09:33:07 <sonny> http://ftp.instantbird.com/instantbird/nightly/latest-trunk/instantbird-0.2b1pre.en-US.win32.zip 09:33:09 <Raven> Nightly Build 20090902 ? 09:33:47 <Even> It is coming... 09:34:18 <Even> We had a server issue this night so it is still building except for the mac build which is ready by now. 09:34:27 <Morian> in ~1hour 09:34:35 <Even> Linux is gonna be there in a few minutes. 09:34:47 <Even> Windows, I suppose you'll have to wait an hour or two. 09:35:37 <Even> There's a lot of fixes in this one ;). 09:35:55 <Even> (thanks Morian for a good part of those ^^) 09:36:11 <flo> Even: there are more coming ;) 09:36:28 <Even> Yeah. There is always more coming ^^. 09:36:39 <Even> That's what makes the job fun ^^. 09:40:54 <Raven> A instantbird and will be in ZIP but not EXE (NSIS Installer) 09:41:31 <Raven> ? 09:42:00 <Morian> (for the release yes) 09:42:21 <Morian> for nightlies there is no installer 09:46:26 --> fqueze_ has joined #instantbird 09:46:26 * ChanServ sets mode +qo fqueze_ fqueze_ 09:46:54 <-- fqueze_ has left #instantbird () 09:47:05 --> fqueze_ has joined #instantbird 09:47:05 * ChanServ sets mode +qo fqueze_ fqueze_ 09:48:19 <Even> Linux version is currently uploading. 09:48:32 <Even> It's going to take some time. 09:48:45 <Even> Before the automatic update is on, there is a lot if things to upload. 09:48:52 <Even> *of things 09:54:53 <-- Raven has left #instantbird () 09:56:44 --> GeekShado_ has joined #instantbird 09:58:05 <-- GeekShadow has quit (Ping timeout) 10:01:37 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 10:02:01 <Mic> hi 10:02:09 <Morian> hi Mic 10:04:19 <Even> hi ^^ 11:27:53 --> Raven has joined #instantbird 11:29:54 <-- Raven has left #instantbird () 11:40:36 --> deOmega has joined #instantbird 11:41:53 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.2b1pre) 12:04:18 <-- deOmega has quit (Quit: ) 12:06:53 --> deOmega has joined #instantbird 12:48:37 <-- Even has quit (Input/output error) 12:52:22 --> Even has joined #instantbird 12:52:23 * ChanServ sets mode +o Even 13:14:50 --> DetroitLibertyPenguin has joined #instantbird 13:16:53 <-- DetroitLibertyPenguin has quit (Connection reset by peer) 13:19:32 --> DetroitLibertyPenguin has joined #instantbird 13:20:00 <DetroitLibertyPenguin> when the instantbird crash reporter pops up, where does that information go? 13:21:01 <flo> http://crash-stats.instantbird.com/reports/stats/ 14:12:12 <-- Even has left #instantbird () 14:12:17 --> Even has joined #instantbird 14:12:17 * ChanServ sets mode +o Even 14:12:22 <-- Even has left #instantbird () 14:12:28 --> Even has joined #instantbird 14:12:28 * ChanServ sets mode +o Even 14:12:30 <-- Even has left #instantbird () 14:13:04 --> Raven has joined #instantbird 14:13:28 --> Even has joined #instantbird 14:13:28 * ChanServ sets mode +o Even 14:13:32 <-- Even has quit (Quit: Even) 14:13:33 --> Even has joined #instantbird 14:13:33 * ChanServ sets mode +o Even 14:14:18 <Raven> Thank you for today's nightly builds for Windows 14:14:30 <Even> No need to thank. 14:14:36 <Even> It's mainly an automated process :). 14:15:20 <Raven> I do not understand 14:15:40 <Even> Do not understand what ? 14:15:46 <Mitch> It's built by a machine. 14:15:52 <Mitch> On a timer. 14:16:52 <Even> Yeah. I configured the robot that build the nightlies. I would never have accepted to get up every morning just before 4 AM to build those :P. 14:17:28 <Morian> and btw it it broken for chats :p 14:18:37 <flo> Morian: volunteering to fix it? :-P 14:19:03 <Morian> grrmpf 14:19:05 <Even> lol 14:19:13 <Even> Good reaction ^^. 14:19:15 <Even> Love it :P. 14:19:40 <Morian> lol 14:22:40 <Raven> Robot make a builds, and you will be Ib 0.2 beta 1? 14:25:25 <Morian> Raven: robots make linux, windows and macos version of instantbird everyday, the day we will be satisfied, the version will be named "instantbird 0.2 beta 1". 14:25:53 * flo suggests 1.0 for the day we will be really satisfied :-P 14:27:02 * DetroitLibertyPenguin thinks one is never truly satisfied with software 14:27:36 <Morian> s/satisfied/satisfied enough/ 14:27:37 <Morian> -_- 14:27:59 <DetroitLibertyPenguin> :-) 14:28:23 <DetroitLibertyPenguin> I like Debian, its ready when its ready 14:29:10 <flo> you suggest instantbird is ready when it's not? 14:29:39 <DetroitLibertyPenguin> which brings me back to the question I asked yesterday that I don't think I ever got a response to, is there anything in Instnatbird that isn't free, such as Icons or color schemes, that would prevent it from being packaged with Debian (ala Firefox/IceWeseal) 14:29:41 * Morian thinks he says instantbird has the debian way of thinking 14:29:45 <DetroitLibertyPenguin> no, flo, i suggest no such thing 14:30:34 <flo> DetroitLibertyPenguin: we have a trademark on the name and icon 14:30:52 <DetroitLibertyPenguin> OK 14:31:02 <flo> (only the icon we use for releases, not the one that is in nightlies and that you get by default when you build yourself) 14:31:15 <Mitch> DetroitLibertyPenguin: Debian's moving to a time-based schedule. 14:31:28 <DetroitLibertyPenguin> which is quite unfortuante, IMHO 14:32:09 <Mitch> It's 'cause Ubuntu and most users get pissed off about the huge gap between releases. 14:32:31 <DetroitLibertyPenguin> oh well, to each there own 14:32:44 <DetroitLibertyPenguin> again, personally that's one of the reasons I like Debian 14:32:56 <Mitch> BTW, I've been running sidux in VirtualBox. 14:33:01 <Mitch> I kinda like it. 14:33:09 <DetroitLibertyPenguin> BTW i'm currenlty on Windoze Vista 14:33:25 <Mitch> Yeah. Vista x64 host here. 14:34:52 <-- sonny has left #instantbird (Leaving.) 14:35:37 <DetroitLibertyPenguin> so back to the whole icon/name trademark thing, the nightlies of firefox are identified as "minefield" and use a different icon, very similar to the nightly Instantbird, is IB identified differently in nightlies as well, and I just haven't noticed? 14:36:29 <flo> maybe we should change the name in nightlies 14:36:38 <Morian> sad idea :) 14:36:55 <flo> it doesn't matter much, as we are the ones who distribute the nightlies 14:37:01 <DetroitLibertyPenguin> :-) 14:37:06 <flo> I don't really see how it could harm to use our own trademark 14:37:38 * DetroitLibertyPenguin suggests ExtremleyInstantbird, as its extremely instant 14:38:04 <flo> Currentbird? :-D 14:38:17 <DetroitLibertyPenguin> what's the reasoing behind Firefox doing it, they too are the ones releasing their own nightlies, are they not? 14:38:30 * Morian suggests YetAnotherBuggedPatchFrom(Morian|flo|Even|...) as random name :) 14:38:46 * flo suggests ": )" as a new name 14:38:57 <flo> with a subtitle "please smile before it crashes" 14:39:10 <Morian> instantbomb ? :p 14:39:10 * DetroitLibertyPenguin votes no to :) 14:39:22 <flo> :( 14:39:23 <Morian> brb 14:40:05 * DetroitLibertyPenguin likes long names, as evident by his Nick being too long for use in freenode 14:41:10 <flo> alternatively, the subtitle could be "Feel the freedom of this name, and smile!" :-P 14:42:39 <Raven> I missed a lot of the above 14:42:46 <DetroitLibertyPenguin> names with punction in them I see causing problems 14:45:31 <DetroitLibertyPenguin> I see the future unbranded Debian dirvite being "instantIce" or "Instnatfreeze" or perhapse "DryIce" 14:46:28 <Raven> Instantbird Developers, you have experience in creating installers? 14:47:12 <Mitch> DetroitLibertyPenguin: Firefox is branded "Minefield" for nightlies so that no-one can mistake them for release builds. It's that simple. 14:47:53 <flo> by the way, debian doesn't need to change the name if they don't add random patches which we have never seen and approved 14:48:22 <DetroitLibertyPenguin> Mitch:that makes total sense 14:48:24 <Mitch> flo: How's the artwork licensed? 14:48:37 <flo> the nightly icon is free 14:48:57 <Mitch> What about the Instantbird branding? 14:49:02 <flo> how does this work for sonbird by the way? 14:49:21 <DetroitLibertyPenguin> currently Debian has no Songbird version in their official repos 14:49:25 <Mitch> Songbird is...not accepted into many OS repos. 14:49:27 <Raven> What are you talking about? 14:50:12 <Mitch> flo: However, IIRC, they MPL'd their artwork, something that Mozilla can't do. 14:51:03 <DetroitLibertyPenguin> and the discussion i had previously been a part in said it wasn't worth the coding necessary to do a Songbird derivative at this time, IIRC something even in the color scheme of the UI was not 100% free 14:51:46 <Raven> ok bye 14:51:51 <-- Raven has left #instantbird () 14:52:06 <Mitch> Songbird can't use Debian-supplied dependencies, at the moment. 14:52:18 <Even> Dis we pissed him for a reason I can't start to understand? :P 14:52:23 <Even> *Did 14:52:28 <DetroitLibertyPenguin> even, i was thinking the same thign 14:52:30 <DetroitLibertyPenguin> *thing 14:52:33 <Even> lol :) 14:52:33 <Mitch> We didn't speak Russian. 14:52:38 <Even> Maybe... 14:53:29 <DetroitLibertyPenguin> right in the middle of me typing "Raven: What do you not understand?" 14:53:39 <DetroitLibertyPenguin> so hey, win some you loose some 14:55:07 <Mitch> Meh. There's an #instantbird regular who's more of a knob than him anyway. 14:55:31 <Even> Well, I'm not sure we're gonna miss this guy though. 14:55:36 <flo> Mitch: heh 14:55:46 <Even> And my little finger tells me I might return soon enough. 14:55:56 <flo> Even: don't worry, he'll come back 14:56:19 <Even> Yeah... I was having the same thought as you can see ^^. 14:56:35 --> stevo has joined #instantbird 14:56:37 * flo is more and more unhappy about that stupid about dialog sizing bug 14:57:22 <Even> lol 14:57:27 <Even> Poor little flo ;) 14:57:37 <Even> *big flo? :P 14:57:58 <flo> Even: what about you fixing it?:-P 14:58:07 <Even> Impossible. 14:58:18 <Even> I'm leaving it 5 minutes and probably won't be back soon :) 14:58:24 <Even> Find another target :D 14:58:59 <Even> (and even if I was not going, it would probably take me an entire day to figure out the bug ^^) 14:59:13 <flo> Even: you can fix it tomorrow 14:59:24 <flo> Even: there's no other target with a wince6 device available... 14:59:40 <Even> Well. I was thinking abvout installing pastebin and looking about the new buildbot tomorrow if I can focus on something. 14:59:58 <flo> :) 15:00:06 <Even> It would probably be a better use of my time. 15:00:11 <flo> maybe 15:00:42 <Even> (ah, and I might try to write a little piece of hd free warning script) 15:00:55 <Even> *free space 15:01:38 <-- stevo has quit (Ping timeout) 15:03:11 <Even> Wezll, time to go. 15:03:19 <Mitch> See ya. 15:03:28 <Even> Yep... Maybe later tonight :P 15:19:24 <-- DetroitLibertyPenguin has left #instantbird () 15:20:28 --> DetroitLibertyPenguin has joined #instantbird 15:39:07 <flo> back later 15:39:11 <-- flo has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.2b1pre) 16:02:54 <deOmega> hehe, i suppose that guy was hoping for an answerr about the installer package 16:04:09 <Morian> deOmega: on the mailing list ? 16:04:44 <deOmega> [09:46] <Raven> Instantbird Developers, you have experience in creating installers? 16:04:50 <Morian> ah 16:05:38 --> stevo has joined #instantbird 16:05:58 <Morian> I answered a similar question dozen of lines above :) 16:06:14 <Morian> btw someone is asking the same question on the mailing list ^^' 16:13:45 <instantbot> firstname.lastname@example.org added attachment 233 to bug 231. 16:13:46 <instantbot> email@example.com cancelled review?(florian@instantbird .org) for attachment 232 on bug 231. 16:13:47 <instantbot> firstname.lastname@example.org requested review from florian@instantbird .org for attachment 233 on bug 231. 16:13:48 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=231 enh, --, 0.2b1, romain, ASSI, Replace "connected" by "connected for XX minutes" 16:25:44 <deOmega> Morian:ah, understood 16:26:05 <deOmega> hey, what does ^^ mrean? raised eyebrow? 16:26:06 <deOmega> lol 16:26:16 <Morian> yes 16:26:34 <deOmega> ah, lol 16:26:45 <deOmega> ^^ 16:34:22 <-- stevo has quit (Ping timeout) 17:00:34 --> stevo has joined #instantbird 17:20:39 --> DGMurdockIII has joined #instantbird 17:27:12 --> flo has joined #instantbird 17:27:12 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo flo 17:27:13 <instantbot> Welcome back flo, I missed you. 17:35:37 <instantbot> email@example.com added attachment 234 to bug 231. 17:35:38 <instantbot> firstname.lastname@example.org cancelled review?(florian@instantbird .org) for attachment 233 on bug 231. 17:35:39 <instantbot> email@example.com requested review from florian@instantbird .org for attachment 234 on bug 231. 17:35:40 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=231 enh, --, 0.2b1, romain, ASSI, Replace "connected" by "connected for XX minutes" 18:17:37 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 18:17:49 <Mic> hi 18:18:00 <Morian> welcome back 18:18:16 <Morian> (we know there is a big issue with nicklist on the last nightly :p) 18:18:30 <flo> I know I need to fix that, yeah... :( 18:48:56 --> GeekShadow has joined #instantbird 18:50:16 <-- GeekShado_ has quit (Ping timeout) 19:16:56 --> sonny has joined #instantbird 19:24:40 <DGMurdockIII> nicklist? 19:24:44 <DGMurdockIII> you mean for irc? 19:24:45 <Morian> on chats 19:25:40 <DGMurdockIII> irc chats or chat for AIM, yahoo, icq 19:26:20 <Morian> all chats as far as i know 19:32:34 <DGMurdockIII> http://cream.sourceforge.net/ cheack taht out is you like vim 19:36:41 <Morian> it's a emacs friendly channel, sorry :p 19:56:48 <Mic> :q! 19:57:15 <Mic> hmm :S 20:37:28 --> sonny1 has joined #instantbird 20:37:41 <-- sonny has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 20:40:40 <Mic> Sample images of new status icon replacements: http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/2898/bersichtkompakt.png 20:40:57 <Morian> :) 20:41:18 <Morian> why is there 2 idle icons ? 20:41:18 <Mic> Well, they'd need considerable editing to look good at 16x16, but I think they're ok 20:42:17 <Mic> I like the orange one better, but it's easier to confuse with the red one 20:43:35 <Mic> Still: you never know what it looks like "in action". It might be too much to have Instantbird-globes all over the place. 20:55:53 * sonny1 is now known as sonny 20:59:19 <deOmega> [15:40] <Mic> Sample images of new status icon replacements . so does this mean if someone is away on googletalk, i won't see te google talk icon with away? or ar ethose you posted going to be just for a secgment? 21:02:28 <-- GeekShadow has quit (Quit: The cake is a lie !) 21:03:53 <Mic> Oh it was just an idea for a replacement of the flat icons on the tabs. 21:04:12 <deOmega> Ohh, nice 21:04:14 <Mic> You don't see the Google Talk icon there anyways at the moment, so I guess it's no loss ;) 21:04:28 <deOmega> indeed 21:04:32 <deOmega> i misunderstood 21:05:44 <flo> remote: added 7 changesets with 14 changes to 13 files :) 21:05:44 <deOmega> in that case, those are very sexy 21:08:21 <flo> it's nice to see that a lot of the issues we listed at http://wiki.instantbird.org/Brainstorm:tabs-improvements are already fixed :) 21:09:03 <flo> good night! 21:09:40 <Mic> good night 21:10:39 <deOmega> don't leave me yet, i am just begnning 21:11:48 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/9c61be03e9d3 - Romain Bezut - Fix a race condition in the reconnection timer: make sure it is removed after a fatal error. r=fqueze 21:11:49 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/d1e09e62aeec - Florian Qu?ze - Bug 234 - hidden pref browser.tabs.autoHide doesn't work at all (doesn't hide the tabstrip when only one tab remains). 21:11:50 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/824cbb72bc93 - Florian Qu?ze - Hide the all-tabs button when all the tabs are visible (no overflow). 21:11:51 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/851492a73b19 - Florian Qu?ze - Hide useless and ugly bugos horizontal scrollbar in the input textbox of conversations. 21:11:52 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/13dcfc8be03e - Romain Bezut - Bug 231 - Replace 'Connected' by 'Connected for <time>' in the account manager. r=fqueze 21:11:53 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/0e4ee966aae4 - Florian Qu?ze - Remove no longer needed WinCE workaround. 21:11:54 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/fa80ce76fbe3 - Florian Qu?ze - Fix localizability issue in the credits, and update copyright year. 21:19:37 <deOmega> seems like teh tabs are not entirely sensitive to drag and drop, in windows 21:22:21 <-- deOmega has quit (Quit: ) 21:30:16 <instantbot> firstname.lastname@example.org set the Resolution field on bug 231 to FIXED. 21:30:19 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=231 enh, --, 0.2b1, romain, RESO FIXED, Replace "connected" by "connected for XX minutes" 21:31:44 <instantbot> email@example.com set the Resolution field on bug 234 to FIXED. 21:31:47 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=234 min, --, ---, nobody, RESO FIXED, browser.tabs.autoHide;true 21:51:05 --> deOmega has joined #instantbird 21:52:10 <-- deOmega has quit (Quit: ) 22:01:03 <-- DetroitLibertyPenguin has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.2b1pre) 22:12:12 <Mic> http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/8720/bersichtkompakt2.png 22:13:14 <Morian> :) 22:13:47 <Morian> I would love to change the red one to "Do not disturb" like a "forbidden panel" on the road 22:15:56 <Morian> but I don't really know whether we'll do it or not 22:16:41 <DGMurdockIII> 2(Mic2): i like those alot 22:17:15 <Mic> Morian: the one in red with a white bar? 22:17:22 <Morian> yes this one 22:17:27 <Mic> Mockup (greyscale): (-) 22:17:28 <Mic> :P 22:17:35 <Morian> :p 22:17:41 --> deOmega has joined #instantbird 22:18:36 <DGMurdockIII> but what with the envelopes on them 22:18:41 <Morian> btw I like what you have done, maybe with some adjustments :) 22:19:31 <Morian> yes as for the envelopes :) 22:19:55 <DGMurdockIII> i now the ib logo has them in it 22:20:59 <Morian> I wonder whether the needles on the orange one are visible enough 22:21:11 <DGMurdockIII> Warning: leaking the value of /purple/logging/format 22:21:12 <DGMurdockIII> Source File: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/raw-file/a3ea67f3841f/purple/purplexpcom/src/purpleInit.cpp 22:21:12 <DGMurdockIII> Line: 908 22:21:12 <DGMurdockIII> Source Code: 22:21:12 <DGMurdockIII> prefs: prefs_get_string 22:23:17 <Morian> DGMurdockIII: interresting, that may be what flo is looking for for days by now :) 22:23:52 <DGMurdockIII> what that 22:24:02 <Mic> DGM: I use the envelopes because I had to take what I can get 22:24:08 <DGMurdockIII> warning 22:24:12 <Mic> I don't have the globe without them 22:24:18 <DGMurdockIII> ok 22:24:18 <Morian> he was looking for a small leak in strings :) 22:24:30 <DGMurdockIII> there a few 22:24:35 <DGMurdockIII> i get 22:24:39 <Morian> same line ? 22:25:06 <Mic> http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/4296/dndm.png 22:25:50 <deOmega> hi, quick question.. i see MinimizeToTray revived and CleanLessSharp were updated, but i am not picking them up in addons updates in IB... any ideas? 22:27:12 <Morian> deOmega: you mean you can't download them ? 22:27:47 <Morian> Mic: yes this kind of thing :), sadly there is a "envelop problem" there too :( 22:28:15 <deOmega> well, i can download them, but when i do check for updates, they are not being picked up. 22:28:29 <-- SM0TVI has quit (Connection reset by peer) 22:28:29 <deOmega> is it that they were just moved frrom experimental to stable? 22:28:34 <deOmega> and so there no changes? 22:28:45 --> SM0TVI has joined #instantbird 22:28:54 <Morian> ah it is in stable ? 22:28:59 <Morian> anyway I try it under windows :) 22:29:57 <deOmega> lol 22:30:22 <Morian> works fine for me, what is the problem ? 22:30:28 <deOmega> i just know when i to to tools, adons, find updates, they are not being picked up as updates.... so may have just been a transfer 22:30:44 <Morian> probably yes 22:31:07 <Morian> it will be in the recommended addons for windows on the release day :) 22:31:24 <deOmega> I have them all instaleld already :) 22:31:44 <deOmega> when they were in experimental 22:31:54 <Morian> since a lot of people are waiting for this feature but it is not "stable enough" to be built in instantbird 22:32:07 <deOmega> ah 22:32:43 <deOmega> ok, anf dinally... i filed this bug... hehe,.. and it was fixed.. but what does flo mean in his post? 22:32:45 <deOmega> https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=234 22:32:46 <Morian> I thnik it works on other OSes, and the code is not "very clean" 22:32:48 <instantbot> deOmega: Bug 234 min, --, ---, nobody, RESO FIXED, browser.tabs.autoHide;true 22:33:20 <Morian> which post ? 22:33:37 <Morian> unfortunately he fixed it without any care for the bug report ^^' 22:33:46 <deOmega> This bug is now fixed, pushed at: 22:33:46 <deOmega> http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/d1e09e62aeec 22:33:46 <deOmega> Thanks for reporting ! 22:33:50 <Morian> (no patch, no comment) 22:33:54 <Morian> that's me :) 22:34:16 <Morian> just because flo pushed the changes in the code to fix this bug a few hours ago 22:34:17 <deOmega> Oh lol 22:34:36 <deOmega> so it shou dbe out tomorrow? is that what pushed means? 22:34:48 <deOmega> next nightly? 22:34:55 <Morian> pushed means that it will be available in the next nightly yes :) 22:35:09 <deOmega> awesome. :) splendid 22:35:29 <deOmega> moves fast 22:35:52 <Morian> it seems that it was an "easy bug" 22:36:03 <Morian> 5 lines have changed ^^' 22:36:24 <deOmega> well, i guess we should look for all teh easy ones 22:37:14 <deOmega> like the tabs not being easy to detatch, you have to keep clicking to find teh right spot to drag the tab off to anew window 22:37:17 <deOmega> :) 22:38:17 <Morian> is it the same behavior with firefox ? 22:38:22 <deOmega> I am usig windows vista 32 bit 22:38:39 <deOmega> no, not at all 22:38:51 <Morian> (some bugs sounds easy to fix but are very hard, and drag and drop or focus stuff are that kind of bugs ;)) 22:39:00 <deOmega> you click almost anywhere on the tab in firefox and you could drag the tab 22:39:13 <Mic> deOmega: you can drag and drop them even if it doesn't display the image of the tab 22:39:31 <deOmega> right, sometimes Mic 22:39:33 <Mic> I just get the image of the tab if I grab on the lower right corner of the tab 22:39:35 <deOmega> let me try now again 22:39:35 <Morian> yes the image of the tab will be back when we will have this fixed :) 22:40:03 <Morian> Mic: ah interesting ! 22:40:14 <deOmega> ok, no, it still does not work that way 22:40:45 <Mic> Morian: sorry, I was wrong 22:40:58 <Morian> Mic: it seems that the image is shown everywhere but not on the text 22:40:58 <deOmega> for me i have to click on teh very bottom edge of the tab, or close to the green dot 22:41:27 <Morian> deOmega: you mean that by clicking the text name it doesn't move ? 22:41:36 <deOmega> vorrect 22:41:39 <deOmega> it does not move 22:41:41 <Mic> The icon doesn't work either 22:41:47 <deOmega> corrrect 22:41:52 <Morian> I also know that the indicator is not very visible on windows :( 22:42:16 <deOmega> if i click in teh crease, works like a charm 22:42:23 <Morian> but I can drag and drop the tab with the icon or with the text under win XP SP3 22:42:40 <Mic> Same for me 22:42:57 <deOmega> click on teh top edge or teh bottom edge of tab works, not on teh b name 22:43:11 <Morian> mmmh 22:43:17 <deOmega> let me see if i coudl launch a vid of it or something 22:43:18 <Mic> Can you try again .. ? 22:43:22 <Morian> may be related to some vista specific code :) 22:43:42 <deOmega> yes, i am trying 22:43:44 <-- stevo has quit (Ping timeout) 22:43:51 <Mic> And no matter whether it shows something or not, keep the mouse button pressed and drag to the place where you like to have it 22:43:57 <DGMurdockIII> Warning: leaking the value of /purple/away/auto_reply 22:43:58 <DGMurdockIII> Source File: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/raw-file/a3ea67f3841f/purple/purplexpcom/src/purpleInit.cpp 22:43:58 <DGMurdockIII> Line: 908 22:43:58 <DGMurdockIII> Source Code: 22:43:58 <DGMurdockIII> prefs: prefs_get_string 22:44:07 <DGMurdockIII> using windows 7 22:44:09 <DGMurdockIII> 64bit 22:44:35 <deOmega> Mic:right, i am ignoring the image 22:44:39 <deOmega> and just tryng to drag 22:44:42 <Mic> ah, ok 22:45:13 <Morian> DGMurdockIII: have you steps to reproduce this bug or does it seem random ? 22:45:20 <deOmega> clicking in teh area of the names for SURE does not work 22:45:25 <DGMurdockIII> random 22:46:34 <Morian> deOmega: thanks, we'll take a look at this behavior with vista, and btw the image displayed should be fixed "soon" 22:46:56 <deOmega> Morian:thank you... maybe that will fix it :) 22:47:16 <Morian> it seems linked yes, we'll see :) 22:47:34 <deOmega> instantbird is indeed growing on me, seems to be gettng more and more stable by my standards 22:48:29 <deOmega> by teh d way, i failed to report that i have had no disconnect reports from peers since the last time.. maybe was something locally for me 22:48:45 <Morian> it's always the same when we introduce a new "big" feature as the new tab system, there are a lot of small "localized" bugs, and we have to make it more stabler 22:48:48 <Morian> stable * 22:49:18 <deOmega> ok.. really appreciate the responses. thanks 22:49:47 <Morian> and you all help us to find and take these bugs down ;) 22:50:15 <Morian> we can't be aware of all the bugs by ourselves 22:50:22 <deOmega> wel, at this pace.. .2 betsa will be out this weekend :) 22:50:40 <Morian> I am pretty sure for the hideTab thing that no one would ever test it for a long time 22:51:02 <deOmega> cool 22:52:08 <Morian> if Mic's icons are accepted, I have an idea for the "typing" one :p 22:52:21 <Mic> Flying envelopes! 22:52:23 <Morian> the same but the letters are turning around the globe :-D 22:52:30 <Morian> envelops * 22:52:47 <Morian> could be fun :) 22:53:31 <deOmega> that messaging theme cleanlesssharp has really made messaging much more of a pleasure. 22:54:00 <deOmega> ah, no scribbling pencil icon for typing? :) 22:54:17 <Morian> it is just ideas, nothing decided yet :) 22:54:53 <deOmega> :) 22:54:54 <Morian> I would say that there are more important things at the moment 22:55:12 <Morian> still a lot of bugs in the tab system, the chat nick list is broken for 24 hours 22:55:17 <deOmega> I can imagine lol 22:56:59 <deOmega> i like those soft looking icons i think that DGMurdockIII posted yesterday... really has a touch oof class 22:57:01 <Morian> the patch for bug 148 will be pushed tomorrow Mic :) 22:57:04 <instantbot> Morian: Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=148 tri, --, 0.2b1, leeraccount, ASSI, CSS issue with Nofications on Linux / Windows 22:57:33 <DGMurdockIII> what about a somthing that looks like someone is writing a letter 22:57:34 <Morian> (I guess at least) 22:58:22 <Morian> Yes that could be an idea too, but if Mic's icons are accepted flying envelopes would be VERY cool 22:58:24 <DGMurdockIII> that kinda gost with the theme a littel bit 22:58:33 <DGMurdockIII> gose 22:59:15 <DGMurdockIII> flying toster 22:59:17 <DGMurdockIII> lol 22:59:22 <Mic> Morian: in 16x16 pixels we can't really let them fly as they appear to do right now 23:00:09 <Morian> yes with some adjustments 23:00:42 <Mic> I don't think you could see much of it then .. but we might increase the icon size on the tabs to 64x64 pixels to compensate ;) 23:00:58 <Mic> flo will complain about wasted space, I know :P 23:01:24 <Morian> we already have a patch to fix the tab height on some OSes pushed tonight XD 23:01:39 <Morian> big tabs are not a solution :p 23:02:35 <Mitch> Big tabs are "the SeaMonkey solution". 23:03:46 <Morian> we don't need that :) 23:07:01 <Mic> btw I'll have to disappoint you on nightly builds: the status icons for them will be black and brown completely :P 23:07:52 <Morian> lol 23:09:06 <Morian> let's fix the image on tab dragging 23:28:12 <-- flo has quit (Ping timeout)