#instantbird log on 09 01 2009

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07:03:37 <instantbot> Welcome back flo, I missed you.
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09:40:44 <Raven> Hi
09:43:29 <Mic> hello
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10:00:48 <Mic> Morian: I could use your insights of IB to categorize a bug properly
10:01:54 <Mic> Failing to add IRC channels to the buddy list is an internal/libpurple problem
10:02:23 <Mic> "..., isn't?"
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10:10:51 <instantbot> New Instantbird (UI) bug 232 filed by leeraccount@yahoo.de.
10:10:54 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=232 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Can't add IRC channels to the buddy list
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10:24:51 <instantbot> Welcome back flo, I missed you.
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10:38:42 <flo> "12:37:20 - Morian_2 [morian@moz-54DFCC56.univ-lille1.fr] entered the room." nice reverse DNS ;)
10:40:05 <flo> Morian is in the office today ;)
10:46:51 <Even> ^^
10:46:56 <Even> Coollll !
10:47:01 <Even> :)
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10:55:11 <rbezut> it's raining ... :(
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11:00:19 <Raven> Hi, Florian!
11:00:27 <Even> You just missed him :P
11:00:43 <Even> He just get out eating.
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11:03:32 <Raven> We in Russia very interested in your program! Tell me when you plan to release instantbird 0.2?
11:04:41 <Even> We would like to know that yourself.
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11:04:47 <Even> The best answer is "when it's ready"
11:05:49 <Even> 0.2 is a major release and we're still planning a lot of major features to be included in this release.
11:06:09 <Even> There's a lot done, but still much to do.
11:06:58 <Even> I know the answer's not really helping much. I'm sorry I have nothing best to offer.
11:07:17 <Even> But I can add 0.2 is probably going out late 2009 or early 2010.
11:09:07 <Even> You can try nightly builds if you have not done so to test the nice new features we have already added in the work in progress software (and the new tabs that are reaalllly nice !).
11:09:58 <Even> And if you don't already, I advise you using the 0.2 alpha 1 as a day basis version right now. It is probably better than our last released version (
11:10:38 <Raven> Then release the beta 1 at least, instantbird a good program, but the feeling that she does not develop. 
11:10:38 <Raven> Version 0.1 and 0.2a1 provides very few opportunities, for example, instantaneous Edit Forms status, as in Google Talk!
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11:11:22 <Raven> No offense, please!
11:13:04 <Raven> Do not get me wrong...0_o
11:15:07 <Even> I did not.
11:15:10 <Even> Don't worry.
11:15:20 <Even> Still we can't release beta 1 right now.
11:15:26 <Even> But it's coming.
11:15:36 <Even> I think this one will be out in less than a month.
11:16:20 <Even> But I can't guarantee it because we still need one important UI thing to release beta 1 and it might take some time.
11:16:35 <Even> (I'm talking about the preference window)
11:18:50 <Raven> Sorry, just a feeling of impatience arose from the fact that Mozilla is very quick release version of Firefox, so I used the new version appears in 1 - 1.5 months
11:20:03 <Even> But those do not have any major changes.
11:20:09 <Even> Only little fixes and little improvments.
11:20:39 <Even> They have the man power necessary to get out those little versions regularly while we do not.
11:21:52 <Even> It's taking time to adapt the small corrections we do on the development release to the based release code and we are not willing to sacrifice good development time to adapt features improvements or fixes that will make the next release to the current one.
11:22:43 <Even> We will do so but in a future we can do so without having the next release delayed for those adaptations.
11:23:18 <Raven> But will there be renamed your program? Instantbird very long and not all of the friendly name :( 
11:23:25 <Even> But if you like the current released version, you'll be very pleased by the incoming one, believe me :)
11:24:30 <Raven> I believe you :) 
11:24:32 <Even> There won't be any renaming until at least 1.0. We might think of a new name for the 1.0 IF and only IF we find something that is really better and that a good majority of the current community at that time will accept.
11:25:28 <Even> If we can't find a consensus at that moment, then it's going to stay Instantbird. But you can write Ib, it's shorter and we all understand :).
11:25:38 <Even> It's nearly an official abbreviation by now ;).
11:27:12 <Raven> Will the codenames for future versions of IB?
11:27:40 <Even> (use a lower case b as in the long name)
11:28:07 <Even> Well, we do not take much time about thinking about codenames.
11:28:15 <Even> That's commercial stuff and we don't have any ^^.
11:28:18 <Mic> Ubuntu people don't do that either :P
11:29:33 <Even> ^^
11:29:57 <Even> But we can still affectionately call it 1.0 which is still very talkative :P.
11:32:29 <Mic> About version numbers: maybe we could slowly converge to 'pi' or 'e' or 1.0 maybe (never reaching it ofcourse!;)
11:37:13 <Raven> I do not understand - you should not Windows?
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12:24:02 <flo> :)
12:42:49 <deOmega> what did I miss?
12:42:52 <deOmega> :)
12:45:50 <Even> Nothing special :).
12:48:06 * Mitch could have sworn deOmega hung out in #songbird
12:48:29 <deOmega> i sure did
12:48:40 <deOmega> but they are grown now :)
12:49:00 <Mitch> Heh. Made any Instantbird add-ons?
12:49:05 <deOmega> no need to be in there really
12:49:17 <deOmega> Not at all, i am  here for moral support
12:49:25 <Mitch> haha
12:49:26 <deOmega> was
12:49:40 <flo> that's nice :)
12:50:00 <Mitch> I sure hope you're at least using Instantbird then. :P
12:50:08 <deOmega> I am full of suggestions and  try to  encourage others to try the software and where they have complaints, i post  those issues and feedback
12:50:20 <deOmega> I am
12:50:47 <Mitch> flo: We should nick stuff from Firefox.
12:50:50 <deOmega> just updated the latest nightly  WITH THE TABS fix about  30 mins ago
12:51:05 <flo> deOmega: works as expected? :)
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12:51:25 <deOmega> yes, it is working fine thus far
12:51:40 <deOmega> really liking current setup
12:51:51 <Mitch> Those tabs do look nice. I can't remember who wrote the patch though.
12:52:47 <deOmega> Mitch: in terms of   getting others to use instantbird, i really cannot push that until  the installer is launched
12:53:29 <deOmega> as most of us  do not  know  about  unzipping a file and dropping it  here or extracting to, then pin this or that icon to start menu  etc etc
12:53:46 <Mitch> Indeed.
12:53:54 <deOmega> so, once that hurdle is crossed, i  could have some  folks use it
12:54:16 <Mitch> It's actually easier to extract 'n' run on Windows than KDE.
12:55:28 <deOmega> man
12:55:43 <Mitch> Right-click-and-drag FTW.
12:58:37 <Even> Yeah, on KDE you need to install gtk stuff to get it running.
12:58:54 <Even> But it's often already there (depends on your distribution)
12:59:46 <flo> on mac it's trivial :)
12:59:51 <Even> And worst, on 64bits OS you NEED to compile yourself to get a 64 version if you want to have the application themed like your KDE.
12:59:58 <Even> It's really boring.
13:00:37 <flo> Even: that's only because your system is missing a 32bit library...
13:00:42 <flo> it's not the general case
13:00:47 <Even> I'm doing so and it's really so much better since I started to. I have a script that update my Ib every day by compiling it automatically :).
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13:12:20 <Mitch> Even: I use the QtCurve theme for KDE and GTK apps, so it looks consistent. (sidux in VirtualBox, BTW.)
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13:13:20 <Even> Yeah I do too. But the theme does not work on gtk 32 bits if you're using a 64 bits OS. Or at least it does not work on my computer.
13:14:18 <Even> flo: I think it's the same thing on every 64 bits OS using KDE.
13:14:40 <Even> flo: at least on Debian based distributions
13:14:41 <Mitch> Odd. I probably haven't used any apps linked to the 32-bit libs.
13:15:23 <Even> Well, if you're using a 64 bits Instantbird obviously you won't have a problem.
13:15:23 <flo> Even: most linux distributions are not really designed to run software built for an other distribution...
13:15:52 <Even> flo: I don't really understand what your comment means
13:16:21 <flo> that most software for linux come from the package system, and is built exactly with the libraries you have
13:16:25 <Mitch> I guess he means that 32-bit apps really aren't meant for 64-bit.
13:22:49 <deOmega> man,  really looking forward to minimize new message window
13:23:15 <deOmega> thesepopup windows on new message shre  could cause issues
13:23:44 <Mitch> flo: When're you going to write a prpl in JS? :P
13:24:31 <flo> after 0.2 is released
13:24:39 <Mitch> Yay!
13:25:12 <deOmega> i was typing a message  in a window to oen person,  while looking at my other monitors.. in teh process, someone sent me anew message,  and my writing continued in their window, good thing i  saw it before hittiing enter
13:29:32 <flo> hmm
13:29:42 <flo> do you have any idea of how we can reproduce this?
13:56:45 <deOmega> i am sorry flo..  give me aminute
13:56:45 <deOmega> market has opened
14:09:51 <deOmega> ok
14:09:56 <deOmega> to reproduce
14:26:20 <deOmega> lol, sorry
14:26:25 <deOmega> tor eporoduce
14:33:17 <deOmega> you would nif you have  the message window in teh area that you usually type
14:33:26 <deOmega> and you are typiing iinto something else
14:34:13 <deOmega> if someone then sends you an message.. new message. that is,     no messaging window was opened at the time
14:34:33 <deOmega> it  pops up and   u would immediately start  typing in that window
14:34:45 <deOmega> if u were typing somewhere before
14:34:56 <deOmega> you would simply  continue typing
14:35:03 <deOmega> oh man, hope that is clear
14:35:06 <Mitch> deOmega, did you buy alcohol, by any chance?
14:35:20 <deOmega> ?
14:35:41 <deOmega> I will try to communicate later, this is not a free time for me
14:35:54 <deOmega> cannot  even look at this screen as i type :)
14:36:05 <Mitch> Ah. :)
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14:40:20 <flo> stevo: hi :)
14:41:03 <stevo> flo hey
14:43:03 <stevo> long time no see flo :)
14:43:33 <deOmega> stevo from songbird?
14:43:42 <stevo> deOmega: yup
14:43:53 <deOmega> wow! nice
14:44:32 <stevo> been off for awhile, busy with SB and trying to move to the US
14:44:45 * Mitch hides
14:45:06 <stevo> damn Mitch is everwhere!
14:45:07 <flo> stevo: so you are now in SF?
14:45:40 <stevo> flo: for now, still waiting for my TN-Visa to come through...been like 50 days :(
14:46:12 <deOmega> so mitch, geekshadow and stevo.. nice  :)
14:46:37 <GeekShadow> what?
14:46:43 <Mitch> deOmega: Don't laugh. GeekShadow will be maintainer of 50 Instantbird add-ons in no time.
14:46:56 <GeekShadow> :D
14:47:08 <deOmega> I am looking forward to that :)
14:47:16 <stevo> hmm, I may have to get back into making add-ons ;)
14:47:18 <GeekShadow> Mitch, do you look at Get control extension yet ?
14:47:19 <GeekShadow> http://addons.songbirdnest.com/addons/1680
14:47:21 <stevo> the race is on!
14:47:36 <GeekShadow> boosh made a great interface to control Songbird
14:47:47 <flo> stevo: you have been following our work? Do you use nightlies?
14:48:17 <Mitch> GeekShadow: Hah!
14:48:30 <stevo> flo as much as I can, it has been coming along quite nicely :)
14:48:52 <stevo> GeekShadow: awesome! that would be nice for a Android app ;)
14:49:06 <GeekShadow> stevo, no need apps now
14:49:43 <GeekShadow> work cool on fennec
14:50:16 <Mitch> I won't consider Songbird complete until I can SSH into it.
14:51:00 <GeekShadow> Mitch, make an addon for that
14:51:18 <Mitch> Meh, too lazy.
14:51:33 <Mitch> And incompetent.
14:52:28 <Mitch> flo: Do you have some sort of 0.2 tracking bug, or roadmap?
14:52:43 <flo> instantbot: roadmap
14:52:44 <instantbot> flo: You can find the roadmap at http://wiki.instantbird.org/Instantbird:Roadmap
14:53:04 <Mitch> Hmm...
14:53:07 <Mitch> instantbot: peepee
14:53:10 <instantbot> Mitch: Sorry, I've no idea what 'peepee' might be.
14:53:23 <deOmega> lol
14:53:30 <flo> ...
14:53:37 <flo> instantbot: ignore Mitch
14:53:38 <instantbot> flo: OK, ignoring changes produced by Mitch.
14:53:46 <Mitch> Damn it.
14:53:55 <flo> :-P
15:00:57 * Mitch imagines an Instantbird prpl that talks to Songbird
15:09:52 <flo> Mitch: what would it do?
15:10:06 <rbezut> Even: can you give me the script to automatically pastebin from a terminal ? (flo keeps refusing to give me the URL "because I can ask too")
15:10:31 <Even> lol
15:10:49 <Even> first part : http://pastebin.mozilla.org/669167
15:10:49 <flo> rbezut: that's your version of it...
15:11:23 <Even> Second part : http://pastebin.mozilla.org/669173
15:11:31 <rbezut> thanks !
15:12:12 <Even> You should keep somewhere the second (send.sh). It is a very useful bash library to easily manipulate HTTP things.
15:12:31 <Even> It's well documented so you should be able to use it to create your own scripts ^^
15:12:46 <rbezut> :)
15:12:51 <Even> As you can see, the first part (the script that uses the library) is rather simple.
15:13:32 <Mitch> flo: It would make Songbird do stuff. :P
15:18:44 <Even> send.sh is the library I used to write the script that automatically uploads themes to AIO ^^.
15:18:59 <Even> It really made my life simplier.
15:19:05 <Even> more simple
15:19:07 <Even> I'm tired :P
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15:39:11 <rbezut> Even: the script replaces automatically two spaces by one space :(
15:39:41 <rbezut> I sent a diff to flo and ... it didn't apply because of this issue ^^'
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16:16:06 <Even> sry
16:16:12 <Even> IU gave you the wrong link
16:16:35 <Even> ah no
16:16:38 <Even> It's correct.
16:17:04 <Even> Well, I don't see how two spaces can be replaced only by one... But I'll make some tests.
16:18:44 <instantbot> New Instantbird (UI) bug 233 filed by fulner@gmail.com.
16:18:47 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=233 nor, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, Typing looks too much like loading
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16:20:17 <Even> I'm sorry but I can't help you... It seems to be a curl issue there...
16:20:27 <flo> ahah :)
16:20:57 <Even> echo '  toto' | CURL_DEBUG=1 ./pastebin
16:20:57 <Even> Requesting http://pastebin.mozilla.org/...
16:20:57 <Even> curl -s  -F parent_pid= -F $'code2=  toto\n' -F paste=1 http://pastebin.mozilla.org/
16:21:07 <Even> As you can see, the two spaces are there...
16:22:32 <Even> But if you request this page thre's gonna be only one space on the resulting page...
16:22:42 <Even> That's a shame but I don't think I can resolve this easily.
16:30:48 <deOmega> I like that feature enhancement bug that was just posted
16:30:55 <deOmega> i have been thinking the same thing
16:31:52 <deOmega> buddy typing look slike something  else more  sinister is going on... like possible crash :)
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16:35:23 <deOmega> flo: what i was saying earlier  before i lost    focus
16:35:48 * flo just commented in that bug about the typing icon
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16:38:23 <deOmega> because instantbird takes  focus when a new message is  received, assuming  no other instantbird messaging window is  opened,  it tends to get in teh way if one is typing in another program,
16:38:56 <deOmega> would be nice to have an option for new messages... or new message windows to minimize to tray
16:39:25 <Ornthalas> o/
16:39:29 <deOmega> helps for privacy too, just in case the wife is here  looking over my shoulder when a girlfriend sends me anew message  (jk)
16:41:40 <deOmega> nice post about that bug..   I will cast my  useless vote for a pencil icon :)
16:42:44 <flo> :)
16:42:45 <deOmega> http://openclipart.org/people/barretr/barretr_Pencil.png
16:46:29 <deOmega> item on  site :  http://foxyurl.com/t9Y
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16:58:34 <Raven> I am again here! :) 
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17:00:18 <flo> not for a long time ;)
17:09:52 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/3f7369505235 - Romain Bezut - Apply zoom settings on the first conversation tab too.
17:09:53 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/a3ea67f3841f - Florian Qu?ze - Prevent tabs from displaying briefly a gray icon before changing it to the status icon.
17:09:54 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/d92d4ef1b1c8 - Romain Bezut - Use an opacity of 0.6 for icons of unselected tabs and center tab titles on all OSes, not only on Mac. r=fqueze
17:09:55 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/0e57d5b328cf - Romain Bezut - Remove unused tab related preferences from the default preference file. r=fqueze
17:09:56 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/8da5d3368c87 - Florian Qu?ze - Handle a 'selected' attribute on conversations, so that the workaround for wince tabs still works.
17:09:57 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/925a410099bc - Romain Bezut - Mark a conversation tab as unread even if it's selected when the window is inactive. r=fqueze
17:10:32 <DetroitLibertyPenguin> i like pencils
17:14:06 <deOmega> sadly, i   checked all of those... surely you speak a diff language :)
17:14:34 <flo> deOmaga: ??
17:15:43 <deOmega> :),  they did not make sense to me, but that is expected
17:15:43 <flo> ok
17:15:43 <flo> we've got to go
17:15:43 <flo> see you later!
17:15:46 <deOmega> later
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17:34:55 <DetroitLibertyPenguin> does anybody know if there is anything in Instnatbird that isn't free? Such as Icons or color schemes? (i.e. is there anything that would prevent it from being packaged with Debian, like Firefox, forcing the creation of the "un-branded" IceWeseal?)
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17:48:58 <gartral> i found a typo on the site, in the Roadmap subsection in the developer documentation
17:49:12 <gartral> 0.1.1
17:49:13 <gartral> Note: This is looks more like a bug list ;-)
17:49:30 <gartral> "is" can be removed entirly
17:53:46 <DetroitLibertyPenguin> gartral: then you should file a bug report, in our bugzilla we have an option for bugs on the website
17:55:33 <gartral> but it isn't a bug, it's a typo.. >.>
17:57:08 <DetroitLibertyPenguin> why is a typo not a bug?
17:57:21 <DetroitLibertyPenguin> isn't a typo a type of bug?
18:23:52 <Morian> ...
18:24:38 <Morian> we don't need another bug report, thanks gartral :)
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18:29:21 <deOmega> lol
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18:32:43 <instantbot> Welcome back flo, I missed you.
18:52:16 <deOmega> rotflol
18:52:16 <deOmega> seems like a girlfriend
18:52:19 <Morian> yeah the bot is quite sensitive
18:54:48 <deOmega> should have had a female name like carrie  :)
18:55:13 <Morian> ^^
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19:39:01 <instantbot> New Instantbird (UI) bug 234 filed by jahkae@gmail.com.
19:39:04 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=234 enh, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, browser.tabs.autoHide;true
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20:04:04 <DetroitLibertyPenguin> how do you access about:config?
20:04:23 <Morian> open the Error console
20:04:36 <Morian> type: openDialog("about:config");
20:04:46 <flo> instantbot: about:config is open the Error Console and type: openDialog('about:config');
20:04:48 <instantbot> flo: ok
20:04:54 <flo> instantbot: about:config
20:04:55 <instantbot> flo: iirc, about:config is open the Error Console and type: openDialog('about:config');
20:05:04 <Morian> roooh :p
20:05:22 <DGMurdockIII> hey guys what do you guys realy need to be tested
20:05:23 <flo> Morian: what's that "&apos;"?
20:05:37 <flo> DGMurdockIII: currently, tabs
20:05:44 <Morian> instanbot: no, about:config is <reply>Open the Error Console and type: openDialog('about:config');
20:05:49 <Morian> flo: ?
20:06:00 <Morian> instantbot: no, about:config is <reply>Open the Error Console and type: openDialog('about:config');
20:06:01 <DGMurdockIII> like what in tabs
20:06:01 <instantbot> Morian: ok
20:06:22 <DGMurdockIII> the green and red offline and online light
20:06:43 <DetroitLibertyPenguin> isn't red "away" and grey "offline"?
20:07:01 <DGMurdockIII> i ddid not now
20:07:05 <Morian> DetroitLibertyPenguin: it is
20:07:25 <flo> red is "unavailable", not specifically away. green is available
20:07:46 <DetroitLibertyPenguin> wouldn't offline be considered "unavailable"
20:07:57 <DGMurdockIII> could you put some dort of word or maby a letter in the color circle becse ir really confusing
20:08:35 * DetroitLibertyPenguin checks to see what pidgin does
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20:09:24 <DGMurdockIII> what i mean to say is the colors circles arnt very clear what means what becse i usual think of red as offile
20:09:49 <flo> DGMurdockIII: no letters in icons, icons are not translatable :(
20:10:20 <flo> I think we will add better tooltips
20:11:51 <DGMurdockIII> http://www.bomahy.nl/hylke/blog/shrunk-pidgin-smilies/
20:13:34 <DGMurdockIII> ok
20:16:00 <Mic> I like the 'loading icon'.
20:16:14 <Mic> It symbolizes 'something is happening, but has not finished yet'
20:16:19 <flo> ahah :)
20:16:30 <Mic> Seems appropriate for the task imo
20:20:04 <DGMurdockIII> http://37signals.com/svn/posts/1844-open-source-icons
20:20:11 <DGMurdockIII> how about that
20:21:40 <Mic> DGM3: "[...] the Buddy1234 is typing in the lower left corner of the conversation window" - that's only when you have it as active tab
20:21:40 <DGMurdockIII> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Tango_icons
20:21:58 <DGMurdockIII> ok
20:22:56 <DGMurdockIII> http://www.famfamfam.com/lab/icons/
20:23:06 <gartral> the American Industry has a word for said loading icon, it's: "Idiot Light" (or Idiot Bar... if your talking about a certain Micro$oft OS) >.>
20:27:31 <DetroitLibertyPenguin> mic: obviously once you realize what it means, it seems fine, but I think it is not self explanatory to all, I can just see my dad calling me now "how come my instantbird keeps having trouble loading my conversation"
20:28:03 <flo> :)
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20:31:49 <Mic> Tango/GNOME icons look so .. open source-ish :s 
20:31:57 <DetroitLibertyPenguin> :-)
20:32:35 <DetroitLibertyPenguin> My XP box has Tango Icons 
20:36:05 <instantbot> romain@bezut.info added attachment 232 to bug 231.
20:36:06 <instantbot> romain@bezut.info requested review from florian@instantbird .org for attachment 232 on bug 231.
20:36:07 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=231 enh, --, 0.2b1, romain, ASSI, Replace "connected" by "connected for XX minutes"
20:36:58 <Mic> flo: do we receice typing notifications for people who haven't established a conversation yet? (so pre-first-message-typing-notifications if you like to call it that way)
20:38:07 <deOmega> is that psychic feature in  pidgin?
20:38:12 <flo> Mic: very dependent on the protocol used for the conversation, and a bit for the client at the other side
20:42:32 <flo> good night!
20:42:47 <Mic> good night
20:46:32 <Mic> Morian: do you know what the top of nicklist CSS issue is about?
20:47:26 <Mic> (style as it appears on XP) Is it about the dark border above the "Participants" label?
20:47:27 <DetroitLibertyPenguin> is anyone having success connecting to Facebook via the add-on?
20:49:41 <Mic> For me it stopped working weeks ago.
20:59:10 <Morian> Mic: Have no idea at all :)
20:59:26 <Morian> but I wish flo knows and will fix it :p
21:00:00 <Mic>  I try to remove that ugly extra line above "Participants" anyways
21:00:08 <Morian> yeah facebook plugin is "broken" (seems more to be a change in the way the server works, but well ..)
21:00:13 <Morian> ok :)
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22:24:43 <Mic> Morian: btw centered tab titles appear to be slightly off-centered :-s I think it's some illusion created by the icons or their margins.
22:24:54 <Morian> yes
22:24:55 <Mic> -some +an
22:25:09 <Morian> I saw it and we agreed that it was "like that on mac"
22:25:43 <Morian> moreover you have the X on the right to counterbalance :)
22:25:50 <Morian> (when you have more than one tab
22:30:10 <Mic> to be honest I don't like the look of it
22:30:37 <Morian> flo either
22:31:09 <Morian> he said we'll keep it a few days to see if it is just the "change" or if something is really wrong
22:31:13 <Morian> we'll see :)
22:31:41 <Mic> hehe, he said the same on the buddy list margins
22:31:57 <Mic> (don't like the compressed look of it either)
22:32:19 <Mic> The greyed out icons are nice btw
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22:49:36 <Mic> Good night
22:49:40 <Morian> gn
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