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00:01:06 <deOmega> Morian:thank you 00:03:14 <Mic> good night 00:03:20 <Morian> night Mic 00:03:21 <flo> good night 00:03:52 <-- Mic has left #instantbird () 00:05:19 <-- GeekShadow has quit (Connection reset by peer) 00:11:27 <deOmega> ok, we will be able to use persistent im for conferences 00:11:45 <deOmega> instantbird recognizes the command 00:13:20 <deOmega> now, what i cannot get done is to strip teh incoming font to match teh sender's font folr etc 00:13:33 <deOmega> i am in about":config 00:14:28 <flo> you are interested by this preference: 00:14:37 <flo> // this preference changes how we filter incoming messages 00:14:37 <flo> // 0 = no formattings 00:14:37 <flo> // 1 = basic formattings (bold, italic, underlined) 00:14:37 <flo> // 2 = permissive mode (colors, font face, font size, ...) 00:14:37 <flo> pref("messenger.options.filterMode", 1); 00:14:39 <deOmega> this will be my last task today before heading out 00:15:19 <deOmega> thank you... making note 00:18:32 <flo> Morian: http://queze.net/goinfre/new-tabs-with-themes.patch 00:18:43 <Morian> ah thanks 00:18:48 <flo> I've only tried it on Linux 00:18:54 <flo> will try on mac and windows now 00:18:58 <Morian> I won't try it elsewhere 00:29:13 <deOmega> ok, i am, very pleased right now, exspecially since i know where my history folder is kept... and now i can seeincoming text.. and we ccan do conferencing 00:29:17 <deOmega> so, thank you 00:29:25 <deOmega> that's it for me today 01:11:15 <-- deOmega has quit (Quit: ) 01:32:56 --> sonny has joined #instantbird 01:49:44 * IRCMonkey18666 is now known as Mitch 01:52:44 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/5ad90243bd59 - Florian Qu?ze - New tabs (similar to the tabs of Firefox 3.5). 01:52:45 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/e5aa0d9455ba - Florian Qu?ze - Bug 227 - Prevent the smiley theme system from freezing the application when a bogus theme leads to a regexp matching the empty string. 01:57:19 <instantbot> firstname.lastname@example.org set the Resolution field on bug 227 to FIXED. 01:57:25 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=227 cri, --, 0.2b1, florian, RESO FIXED, Old smiley themes with new smiley script lock application 02:16:26 <-- sonny has quit (Ping timeout) 05:12:50 <-- DGMurdockIII has quit (Quit: http://www.2404.org the best pc gaming news :: www.unitedservers.de ««« (Gamers.IRC) »»» gamersirc.net ::) 06:31:07 --> Raven has joined #instantbird 06:32:09 <Raven> Hi 06:32:27 <-- Raven has left #instantbird () 06:55:09 <-- Even has left #instantbird () 06:55:33 --> Even has joined #instantbird 06:56:18 <Even> Hi ! 07:27:08 <-- flo has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.2b1pre) 07:27:24 --> flo has joined #instantbird 07:27:25 <instantbot> Welcome back flo, I missed you. 07:29:31 <-- Mitch has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.85 [XULRunner 1.9.1/20090707221522]) 09:34:47 --> GeekShadow has joined #instantbird 09:58:54 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 09:59:16 <Mic> hi 10:03:47 <Mic> The tabs are fancy :) 10:05:49 <-- Mic has left #instantbird () 10:06:02 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 10:25:26 <instantbot> New purplexpcom - General bug 229 filed by email@example.com. 10:25:28 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=229 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Failing to connect 10:34:40 <-- Mic has left #instantbird () 10:34:47 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 10:53:20 <-- Mic has left #instantbird () 11:14:23 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 11:22:38 <flo> "12:03:47 - Mic: The tabs are fancy :)" do you like them? :) 11:24:26 <Mic> yes 11:24:41 <flo> there are probably lots of bugs 11:24:49 <flo> I'm already aware of a few of them 11:25:05 <Mic> well, there are some things I'd like to say 11:25:07 <flo> an obvious one is the findbar that doesn't open any more 11:26:26 <flo> Command+W to close a tab seems more or less broken too 11:26:47 <flo> It worked on my linux debug build. Doesn't work on my mac... 11:26:59 <Mic> wait a minute .. 11:27:23 <Mic> Doesn't work on Windows either 11:27:43 <flo> I'll fix that for the next nightly 11:27:54 <Mic> I expected to drag the tab outside the conversation window to open it in a new window 11:28:08 <Mic> (It just works inside) 11:29:02 <Mic> Dragging and dropping a tab onto itself doesn't do anything on FF; it could be that people would expect it to behave similiarily 11:29:04 <flo> works for me. 11:29:07 <flo> on all 3 OSes 11:29:20 <Mic> hmm .. 11:29:27 <flo> I know Even had a similar issue this morning 11:29:30 <flo> I can't reproduce 11:30:10 <Mic> oops, dragging and dropping into the same tab works on FF (I'm sorry) 11:30:31 <Even> I also reported Ctrl F and probably Commands F has broken. 11:30:33 <Even> *as 11:30:43 <flo> I said the findbar is broken 11:31:45 <Mic> lol 11:32:01 <Mic> I just caught myself trying to drag a buddy from the list to the tab bar .. 11:33:43 <Mic> A way to distinguish between contacts beside the name would be nice 11:34:21 <flo> ah, now I have the same bug on windows (can't drag outside the window) 11:34:57 <flo> "13:32:01 - Mic: I just caught myself trying to drag a buddy from the list to the tab bar .." nice way to start a conversation :) 11:35:00 <Mic> There might be people who have several contacts with the same name, so adding the account, protocol or UIN,.. on the tooltip would be a good idea 11:35:26 <flo> yeah... we will have better tooltips. One day... 11:35:49 <flo> ah, before we had only that in the tooltip 11:35:52 <flo> hmm ok 11:37:33 <Even> 01:34:19 PM - flo: ah, now I have the same bug on windows (can't drag outside the window) 11:37:33 <Even> => yeah, it does that on KDE too. 11:38:01 <Mic> oh, just a design issue: the icons could be less eye-catching, it diverts from the nickname 11:38:11 <flo> Mic: yes 11:38:52 <flo> actually, that's better on mac. The not selected icons are "gray'ed" a bit. It doesn't attract the eye as much 11:39:05 <flo> I'll probably copy that from the Mac theme to the 2 others 11:40:01 <Mic> Auto-hiding the tab bar is not intended, I guess? 11:40:59 <flo> actually, the "drag to detach a tab" seems to fail only when I drop the tab above a Firefox window 11:41:09 <flo> Mic: that's a pref in about:config 11:41:16 <flo> couldn't decide if we wanted to do that by default 11:41:37 <flo> if we do it, you can't drag a lonely tab back to a window 11:41:53 <flo> and you probably can't drag a tab into a window that already have one tab 11:44:15 <Mic> Ah, it doesn't apply to existing windows 11:44:33 <Mic> I tried auto-hide before and it didn't work .. 11:45:00 <Mic> If you open another conversation, the tab bar will appear and stay when you drag all but one tab away 11:45:26 <Mic> (the last was about a window with a hidden tab bar) 11:49:52 <Mic> Showing an image of the tab you drag would be nice so you know that you're dragging something (or change the mouse cursor or such) 11:58:52 <Morian> flo: should I open a new bug for each "bug" or enhancement I see/suggest? 12:01:52 <Morian> Mic: is bug 229 about facebook or about a way not to reconnect immediately if the connection closes right after being "connected" ? 12:01:56 <instantbot> Morian: Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=229 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Failing to connect 12:02:27 <Morian> the title is very mysterious to me ><' 12:02:41 <Mic> The facebook plugin is just the example for the problem 12:04:23 <Morian> ok, perhaps should we trigger the "reconnection" timer in such a case 12:05:11 <Morian> so that the first time it will reconnect immediately, then 5 seconds later, then 30, 60, 300 and so on 12:06:17 <Mic> Like it does now when it can't connect 12:06:25 <Morian> yes 12:07:45 <Mic> Right now, it doesN't work, because Facebook reports for a moment that it is connected 12:07:59 <Morian> it is really connected 12:08:11 <Morian> for ~5 seconds 12:08:58 <Morian> then it gets a message from the server, as if the protocol hasn't answered a ping or something 12:09:34 <Mic> that's why Eventreur suggested we should wait for e.g. 10 seconds before we treat it like an connected account (and therefore will start the reconnect countdown at 1s again) 12:09:57 <Morian> the solution would be that instead of removing any "reconnection timer" when the account is connected, wait X seconds before doing so 12:10:05 <Morian> yes 12:14:03 <Mic> You like the new title better? 12:14:24 <Morian> yes :) 12:14:28 <Morian> less confuse 12:14:46 <Mic> and now for something completely different 12:15:33 <Mic> flo: is it possible to merge extensions into Instantbird (so that they don't appear as extensions but part of the program) 12:16:34 <Morian> flo is afk, but of course it is possible, and easily, just make a diff and push it on hg ^^' 12:17:24 <Mic> well, automatically; I'm thinking about something like a webtool that allows to select which protocols you'd like to have and it automatically includes them into your personal installer 12:17:33 <Mic> So you customize your IB before even downloading it 12:19:44 <Morian> complicated since the tool is kind of "required" and a lot of people don't download drom the official website. There is a plan to revamp the account wizard, where people will only have (visible) the 4 or 5 most popular protocols depending on their country. 12:20:26 <Morian> and also, invited to download an addon if the proto they are looking for is not built in. 12:21:12 <Morian> (but it's my opinion ^^') 12:22:08 <Mic> hmm, kind of "required"? It would be a way to create customized IBs in case you don't like this or that feature 12:23:25 <Morian> it's the goal of the addon system 12:23:29 <Morian> :-s 12:24:49 <Mic> well, and you have people going "I want that included and not as extension, ouinouin" 12:25:09 <Morian> ^^', they still can fork XD 12:26:21 <Mic> hehe 12:26:34 <Morian> well I fell like it is a "false good idea", but it's just my opinion :) 12:30:19 --> Mitch has joined #instantbird 12:45:17 <flo> Mic: no. We don't want that. 12:45:27 <flo> as Morian said, that's the purpose of the extension system. 12:46:03 <flo> creating more customized versions of the installer doesn't help anybody (if the extension system is good enough), and would be a huge maintenance nightmare 13:13:53 <Mic> well, sure it is what the extension system is basically for 13:15:02 <Mic> ok, the idea was not good ;) 13:16:04 <flo> keep in mind that each customized version needs to be produced for each of the OSes (currently 3, soon 4 OSes supported) and each of the languages (currently 1, hopefully a lot soon) 13:16:13 <Mic> hmm? 13:16:39 <Morian> Mic's idea was to generate it automatically 13:16:44 <Morian> (i think) 13:17:08 <Mic> yes 13:17:31 <Mic> (Which just shift the problem) 13:18:01 <Morian> and create an other one, making installer or tarballs on demand is far from being easy :) 13:18:41 <Morian> and e.ven if we have it, we have to make sure that it is fast 13:19:01 <flo> so how do you "sign" an automatically generated build? How do you get mirror ftp servers? 13:19:22 <flo> how do you handle automatic updates in case of security issues? 13:24:22 <Mic> well, I don't know 13:24:50 <Mic> Basically it was just an idea because the extension manager sucks 13:25:27 <flo> it's easier to make the addon manager suck less ;) 13:25:31 <Mic> sure .. 13:25:54 <Mic> but there were still the people who'd like to see this or that and no, an extension is not sufficient .. 13:27:24 <flo> these people are the problem 13:27:52 <flo> whatever you do, it won't be "right", because they don't want you to do what they propose, they just want to complain 13:28:47 <flo> in most case, we can find a solution that is "good enough" for nearly everybody, and let people who know why the default behavior is not the best for themselves install an addon 13:31:31 <-- Mitch has quit (Ping timeout) 13:34:33 --> goulagman has joined #instantbird 13:35:04 <-- goulagman has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.2a1pre) 13:35:30 <Mic> Are there any attempts to improve the extension manager in general (Mozilla wide) 13:35:49 <Mic> I haven't found anything on a quick search on their bugzilla 13:36:04 --> goulagman has joined #instantbird 13:36:17 <Morian> don't they plan to have a way to handle extensions in html or something like this ? 13:36:18 <flo> Mossop works on that 13:36:26 <flo> but he starts by cleaning up the backend 13:36:38 <flo> so the first changes are not very visible 13:37:24 <Mic> hmm, ok 13:38:31 <Morian> http://wiki.instantbird.org/Brainstorm:tabs-improvements 13:38:40 <Mic> Unfortunately extensions don't have categories on themselves 13:38:42 <Morian> if you want to add something :) 13:41:32 --> Mitch has joined #instantbird 13:42:56 <-- goulagman has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.2a1pre) 13:43:45 --> goulagman has joined #instantbird 13:46:29 <Mic> hmm, with the emoticon theme we have something like a category already.. 13:46:50 <Mic> since the ids have to start with "emoticons-" 13:48:23 <Morian> would be fine to make a difference between emoticon / message style / protocol / others 13:48:56 <Mic> yep, I have the big theme package from flo installed on one of my profiles .. 13:49:08 <Mic> the manager is close to unusable 13:49:35 <flo> Mic: it has serious performance issues with 200 addons installed, yes 13:50:18 <Morian> flo: the matter here is not on performances, but on a way to distinguish addon types 13:50:50 <flo> well, performance is the primary reason why it's unusable for me in that situation 13:51:02 <Mic> both is a problem 13:51:14 <flo> without the performance issue, just adding a search box that would filter the list would be "enough" to make it easily usable quicky 13:51:16 <Mic> For one it's slow and on the other it's hard to find what you are looking for 13:51:50 <flo> I think we planned to extend if for Instantbird by adding a drop down at the top of the list, that would make filtering easy 13:52:01 <Morian> but actually it is not a priority, and the addon manager is quite usable while we don't have so many addons 13:52:03 <Mic> (the addons website could use a "hide eye-candy extensions" as well, btw ;) 13:52:22 <Mic> *switch 13:52:24 <flo> if would default to "Show: All" and could be placed on "Show: emoticion themes" "Show: message styles" "Show: IM protocols", etc... 13:53:13 <Morian> why not creating separated tabs ? 13:53:42 <flo> the addon manager is part of the toolkit so we can't modify it heavily for instantbird except if we decide to completely fork it (which I'd really like to avoid). But we can easily add an overlay, like an extension would do :) 13:54:04 <flo> Morian: because there are already too many tabs, and people don't know what they are for 13:54:09 <Morian> ok 13:54:12 <flo> what's a plugin compared to an extension? 13:54:28 <Morian> plguins shoud be hidden by default 13:54:32 <Morian> but well... 13:54:36 <flo> how do you differentiate a language (listed in a specific tab) from a language pack (listed among extensions) 13:54:56 <flo> Morian: maybe we should even disable theme completely 13:55:02 <flo> *them 13:55:13 <flo> so that we don't crash when a broken plugin is installed on the system 13:55:22 <Morian> yes and no 13:55:27 <flo> it would be really stupid to crash because of flash :-D 13:55:37 <Morian> an addon may want to have flash or any other plugin 13:55:50 <flo> and then can enable it I guess? 13:55:56 <Morian> ah 13:55:58 <Morian> yes 13:56:00 <flo> it would be a preference I suppose 13:56:16 <Morian> I totally agree with that idea 13:56:30 <flo> we just need someone to... just do it ;) 13:56:33 <Morian> can it make IB faster to launch ? 13:56:38 <flo> maybe 13:56:50 <flo> not sure that would be significant 13:57:16 <flo> mozilla is working hard on startup performance these days, so we will benefit from their work 13:57:18 <Morian> will the plugin tab disappear if there is no plugin to show in ? 13:57:46 <flo> if we hide it, sure :) 13:57:52 <Morian> ^^' 13:57:53 <Mitch> flo: Why is the "MSN" prpl named so? It's been WLM for years. 13:58:21 <flo> the application is called WLM 13:58:26 <Morian> the protocol is still MSN, WLM is the application 13:58:34 <flo> are you sure WLM is also the name of the protocol? I don't think so 13:58:44 <flo> and everybody I know talks about "MSN", not "WLM" 13:59:05 <Morian> not a big issue anyway :) 13:59:28 <Morian> flo: is it possible to have overlays elsewhere than in extensions ? 13:59:54 <flo> anywhere in chrome 14:00:22 <Mitch> Also, you guys should promise not to add (more?) GIFs to Instantbird. It's not the '90s anymore. :D 14:00:28 <flo> that's rarely used directly in the applications because loading an overlay when opening the window is slower than just opening the window with a single XUL file 14:01:09 <flo> Mitch: have you seen GIFs in instantbird? 14:01:29 <flo> live with your time, you are in the 21th century, we have animated PNG images with alpha transparency :-P 14:03:49 <Mic> :P 14:03:56 <Mic> :D 14:04:09 <Mic> (just to trigger that animation bug) 14:04:42 <flo> Mic: there are currently no animations in the default emoticon theme... 14:05:14 <Mic> I've got the apng theme installed and there it has this bug 14:05:29 <flo> I know... 14:05:46 <flo> if only someone at mozilla would feel like fixing it before I get to it myself... ;) 14:05:59 --> Raven has joined #instantbird 14:06:17 <-- Raven has left #instantbird () 14:09:22 <instantbot> New Instantbird (UI) bug 230 filed by firstname.lastname@example.org. 14:09:25 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=230 enh, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Plugins should not be enabled by default 14:32:13 <Mic> Morian: "Right click on a zone without tab shouldn't display a popup menu concerning the selected tab" - that's the way FF handles it as well 14:32:22 --> Raven has joined #instantbird 14:33:07 <Morian> Mic: Don't know, I have more FF tabs than friends 14:33:08 <Morian> :-D 14:33:57 <Mic> If (nbOfFFtabs > nbFriends) get_a_rl(); :P 14:33:57 <Morian> items in this list are subject to change depending on the appreciations 14:34:06 <Morian> ^^ 14:34:18 <-- chaosblade has quit (Quit: chaosblade) 14:34:34 <Raven> Hi 14:34:39 <Mic> Hi 14:34:48 <Morian> hi 14:36:09 <Raven> I have missed something? What are you talking about? ;) 14:36:37 <Morian> The new tab system has been pushed yesterday, so now we are debugging ans discussing on how to improve it :) 14:36:51 --> chaosblade has joined #instantbird 14:36:59 <Morian> http://wiki.instantbird.org/Brainstorm:tabs-improvements 14:37:28 <Morian> as you can see there are a lot of things we can do to improve them :) 14:39:21 <Raven> I do not understand much, because I know English very bad 14:40:47 <Raven> Is there a way simpler, if not complicated? 14:41:28 <Morian> Raven: simpler for what ? 14:42:06 <Raven> To understand 14:43:26 <Morian> no, there are some technical stuff in this list as well :), these are just minor improvements to make user experience better with the new tab system 15:08:21 <-- Mic has left #instantbird () 15:27:54 <-- Raven has left #instantbird () 15:33:15 <-- goulagman has left #instantbird () 15:34:41 --> Raven has joined #instantbird 15:36:03 <Raven> When will candidates Instantbird 0.2b1? 15:37:24 <Raven> Ð½Ð¸ÐºÐ¾Ð³Ð¾ Ð½ÐµÑ? 15:37:43 <-- Raven has left #instantbird () 16:04:40 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 16:08:09 <-- Mic has left #instantbird () 16:08:19 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 16:16:51 <Mic> Morian: "when dropping a tab (from another window) before the last tab, it attaches in the last position instead of the position shown by the drop indicator ", I can't reproduce that 16:17:32 <Mic> Does it stay at the last place? 16:18:12 <Mic> I think it flickers at the last place for a moment, but eventually it's at the right place (second to last in the tab bar) 16:35:08 <Morian> mmmh 16:35:36 <Morian> Mic: I meant dropping over the window and not over the tab bar 16:37:05 <Morian> ow 16:37:11 <Morian> it's not even my bug 16:37:20 <Morian> flo told to add that XD 17:08:20 <instantbot> email@example.com added attachment 228 to bug 132. 17:08:21 <instantbot> firstname.lastname@example.org cancelled review?(florian@instantbird .org) for attachment 204 on bug 132. 17:08:23 <instantbot> email@example.com requested review from florian@instantbird .org for attachment 228 on bug 132. 17:08:24 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=132 enh, --, 0.2, romain, ASSI, Zoom level should be saved in preferences 17:24:10 --> rbezut has joined #instantbird 17:25:06 <-- rbezut has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.2b1pre) 17:26:33 --> DGMurdockIII has joined #instantbird 17:48:06 <-- Mic has left #instantbird () 17:50:33 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 17:52:09 <Mic> I think we should have a change in how the UI reacts when you disconnect your own account 17:54:05 <Mic> Maybe graying out the textinput and displaying a message like on the account messenger? ("You're currently not connected ...blablabla") 17:55:39 <Mic> It also shows the status icons on the tabs as if your contact is online/away .. sure, you don't know if something has changed on his side 17:56:10 <Mic> but it's pretending that everything is in order in my opinion 18:00:28 <flo> "18:18:12 - Mic: I think it flickers at the last place for a moment, but eventually it's at the right place (second to last in the tab bar)" 18:00:28 <flo> Right. That's another bug. It always appears at the last place for a very brief instant. We should try to change that, or prevent it from being visible. 18:01:18 <flo> "18:16:51 - Mic: [â¦] I can't reproduce that[...] Does it stay at the last place?". I can reproduce so I'll be able to fix it. Yes, it stays at the last place. 18:01:34 <flo> only happens when there are at least 3 or 4 tabs in the window were you drop the tab 18:03:05 <flo> Mic: yes, we should do something when the account used for a conversation is signed off. It was already a problem before with typing notifications that stayed visible for ever if someone was typing to you when you disconnected. Now with the status icon in the tab, it's even worse 18:10:34 <-- DGMurdockIII has quit (Quit: http://www.2404.org the best pc gaming news :: www.unitedservers.de ««« (Gamers.IRC) »»» gamersirc.net ::) 18:37:47 --> egging has joined #instantbird 18:37:48 <-- egging has quit (User has been banned from Mozilla (No spamming here)) 18:39:25 --> deOmega has joined #instantbird 18:40:21 <deOmega> this entry: clipboard.autocopy 18:40:40 <deOmega> making it true, shouldn't that turn on autocopy in the message window? 18:41:41 --> Mic1 has joined #instantbird 18:42:39 <-- Mic has quit (Ping timeout) 19:19:10 <-- Mic1 has left #instantbird () 19:35:51 --> sonny has joined #instantbird 19:48:09 <-- deOmega has quit (Ping timeout) 19:58:11 --> GeekShado_ has joined #instantbird 19:59:55 <-- GeekShadow has quit (Ping timeout) 20:00:12 <-- sonny has quit (Client exited) 20:04:05 --> sonny has joined #instantbird 20:12:23 <flo> deOmega: probably, yes. 20:12:43 <Morian> (he is offline) 20:13:12 <flo> oops 20:47:47 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 20:56:03 <instantbot> firstname.lastname@example.org added attachment 229 to bug 132. 20:56:04 <instantbot> email@example.com cancelled review?(florian@instantbird .org) for attachment 228 on bug 132. 20:56:05 <instantbot> firstname.lastname@example.org requested review from florian@instantbird .org for attachment 229 on bug 132. 20:56:10 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=132 enh, --, 0.2, romain, ASSI, Zoom level should be saved in preferences 21:26:14 <Mic> flo: what about reflecting progress on the roadmap as well? (example: http://wiki.instantbird.org/User_talk:Mic/Testing_grounds ) 21:26:32 <Mic> People always like to be informed about .. well, anything 21:26:36 <Morian> Mic: good idea :) 21:27:01 <Morian> I think he just didn't know how to display these icons ^^ (me either ...) 21:27:25 <flo> [[File:Tickmark_'ok'.png]] in front of each line :-/ 21:28:07 <Morian> would be better if it could be the list-image instead but well it's not important 21:28:12 <Mic> ok, I guess I could have used some fancy mediawiki feature to achieve the same with much more efforts 21:33:55 <Morian> I don't think it is important, the result is ... 21:34:02 <Morian> the code behind a roadmap -_- ... 21:34:07 <Morian> who cares ? 21:34:23 <flo> well, go ahead then 21:37:05 <-- sonny has quit (Ping timeout) 21:44:40 <Mic> What's "default formatting selection"? 21:44:50 <flo> uh? 21:44:52 <Mic> The magic behind the copy feature? 21:45:07 <Mic> It's listed as todo for 0.3 21:45:41 <flo> formatting outgoing messages, and having a way to set a "default format" (used for all messages if you don't specify anything for the current message) from the preferences 21:52:02 <Mic> I've added tickmarks on the roadmap to the best of my knowledge if you like to copy it, it's at http://wiki.instantbird.org/User_talk:Mic/Testing_grounds 21:52:34 <Mic> Oh and I changed the wording concerning the formatting to what you just described 21:53:13 <flo> we already have the context menu in conversation windows 21:53:34 <flo> "# Improve tabs (Probably do something that looks like Firefox 3+'s tabs) " that is almost done. We are just fixing the remaining issues 21:53:40 <flo> "# Implement nsIClassInfo in purplexpcom classes. " that's done. 21:59:06 <instantbot> email@example.com granted review for attachment 229 on bug 132. 21:59:08 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=132 enh, --, 0.2, romain, ASSI, Zoom level should be saved in preferences 22:04:55 --> sonny has joined #instantbird 22:24:21 --> sonny1 has joined #instantbird 22:24:25 <-- sonny has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 22:24:37 <-- sonny1 has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 22:25:52 --> deOmega has joined #instantbird 22:45:42 <Mic> Good night 22:46:07 <Morian> good night mic 22:46:31 <flo> good night 22:46:43 <Mic> btw I couldn't update the roadmap, it's protected, someone with sufficient rights has to copy it 22:46:47 <Mic> cu 22:47:04 <-- Mic has left #instantbird () 22:48:38 <Morian> protected O_o 22:49:27 <Morian> I edited it a few minutes ago 22:49:27 <flo> against spammers 22:49:27 <Morian> ah 22:49:27 <Morian> it wasn't the good roadmap :p 22:55:35 --> GeekShadow has joined #instantbird 22:57:08 <-- GeekShado_ has quit (Ping timeout) 23:07:23 <deOmega> this entry: clipboard.autocopy...making it true, shouldn't that turn on autocopy in the message window? 23:07:44 <Morian> <flo> deOmega: probably, yes. 23:07:45 <flo> deOmega: probably, yes. 23:07:49 <flo> :) 23:08:02 <Morian> I quote you faster than you type :p 23:08:05 <deOmega> thanks, my pc went to sleep so I missed 23:08:09 <flo> I quoted myself too 23:08:13 <Morian> ^^' 23:08:17 <deOmega> lol 23:08:33 <deOmega> So, i turned it on, but the auto copy is not working 23:08:34 <flo> If my build had a working findbar, I wouldn't have been so slow 23:09:05 <deOmega> are you in this chat using instantbird? 23:11:19 <Morian> flo is 23:11:41 <deOmega> hmmm 23:12:09 <Morian> I ... have to say that i don't ^^', but surely when IRC chat will be improved (nick sorting, nick colors, auto passwords, ...) I'll go for it :) 23:12:22 <deOmega> oh.. i am an idiot, just noticed there an IRC account option 23:16:41 <deOmega> buy the way, I like teh new tabs very much.... 23:16:55 <flo> :) 23:17:10 <deOmega> unfortnunately, they introduced that windows ugly blue on windows VISTA 23:17:18 <deOmega> now frown lol 23:17:40 <deOmega> will post images if you need clarity 23:17:46 <Morian> yes please :) 23:17:51 <deOmega> ok 23:18:19 <Morian> but I am afraid it is probably the normal behavior since it is copy / pasted from firefox theme on visa 23:18:22 <Morian> vista 23:18:44 <deOmega> yes, it is the same thing for firefox default window 23:19:01 <deOmega> default theme 23:29:23 <deOmega> http://i27.tinypic.com/2ew1obk.jpg 23:30:12 <deOmega> so, in that image, you see that ugly rounded blue that is in firefox and now instantbird, in windows Vista 23:30:17 <Morian> you don't like this color ? 23:30:30 <deOmega> you willnotice it was not there in the previous instantbird 23:30:43 <deOmega> looks cheap :) 23:30:53 <Morian> we know, we copied the tab system of firefox for instantbird 23:31:03 <deOmega> but obviously, microsoft does not think so 23:32:05 <Morian> unfortunately I think it won't be "fixed" since it's a feature, but could be changed by a theme 23:32:17 <Morian> (and instantbird doesn't have themes yet :p) 23:32:20 <Morian> sorry ^^' 23:33:00 <deOmega> right, it i snot the end of teh world for sure... and the godo news is that the single tab is wide enough to cover much of it :) 23:33:01 <Morian> oh, what is your message theme for instantbird ? :) 23:33:21 <deOmega> I will tell you once you say you liek it lol 23:33:48 <Morian> I am looking for something like that :), actually mine takes too much vertical space for each message :( 23:34:06 <deOmega> CleanLessSharp 23:34:07 <Morian> I like your theme ;) 23:34:12 <Morian> thanks :) 23:34:25 <deOmega> Exactly, that is what i found with a LOT of them and I tried a LOT 23:35:10 <deOmega> you are welcome... it does not pick up my avatar though, but picks up the person's i am chattiing with 23:35:22 <deOmega> pickes up my buddies 23:36:01 <deOmega> buddies' 23:36:18 <Morian> avatars are not handled in instantbird yet 23:36:21 <Morian> (for 0.3) 23:36:29 <Morian> (I mean your avatar) 23:36:40 <deOmega> I understand 23:37:41 <deOmega> the feature where it allows the other's font color tocome through is priceless 23:38:28 <Morian> does it bring any important information for you or it is just "visual" 23:38:41 <deOmega> And finally, dunno if it matters, but i made a shortcut to have the hirtor open with notebook++ and so i could go through message history that way for now 23:38:49 <Morian> I disabled it when people started to talk to me with big pink fonts :p 23:38:50 <deOmega> hmmm 23:38:55 <deOmega> I suppose visual 23:39:04 <Morian> ok :) 23:39:05 <deOmega> maybei do not understand 23:40:06 <deOmega> whatever font and color they are typing in, i see it.. so.. explain important information for me please 23:41:09 <Morian> I don't know, your contacts may use a lot of bold text to highlight important information, or change the colors on some special part of the sentences 23:41:41 <deOmega> ok, yes, those come through 23:41:44 <deOmega> yes 23:48:04 <deOmega> i am going to bring that image down if you guys do not need it 23:48:34 <Morian> we don't need it, just to check that the appearance was as expected :) 23:48:37 <Morian> thanks 23:49:32 <deOmega> ok, thanks again for your support