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00:02:02 <-- GeekShado_ has quit (Quit: The cake is a lie !) 00:25:41 <-- Mic has left #instantbird () 00:31:34 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 00:46:44 <Mic> good night 00:47:06 <flo> good night :) 00:55:08 <-- Mic has left #instantbird () 09:02:40 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 09:02:46 <Mic> hi 09:51:36 --> GeekShadow has joined #instantbird 10:03:04 <-- Mic has left #instantbird () 10:06:54 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 10:45:25 <-- flo has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.2b1pre) 10:45:36 --> flo has joined #instantbird 10:45:37 <instantbot> Welcome back flo, I missed you. 10:46:18 <-- flo has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.2b1pre) 10:46:25 --> flo has joined #instantbird 11:08:33 --> goulagman has joined #instantbird 11:08:34 --> sonny has joined #instantbird 11:48:37 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.2b1pre) 13:02:19 <-- sonny has quit (Client exited) 13:02:26 --> sonny has joined #instantbird 13:20:47 --> WQ has joined #instantbird 13:26:25 <-- WQ has left #instantbird () 13:28:52 <-- goulagman has quit (Client exited) 13:33:40 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 13:50:58 <Mic> Morian: changing the account order works perfectly :) 13:51:15 <flo> :) 13:55:27 <-- Mic has quit (Ping timeout) 15:56:39 <-- sonny has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 17:42:49 --> Raven has joined #instantbird 17:43:27 <Raven> Hello, it's me again 17:44:57 <Raven> Here somebody is? 17:45:11 <flo> hi 17:46:45 <Raven> Flo, you remember me? 17:46:58 <flo> you were here yesterday 17:47:54 <Raven> Flo, Morian you something passed on from me? 17:51:31 <flo> Morian is away for a few hours 17:52:57 <Raven> Flo, on what principle are addons protocols? 17:53:30 <flo> currently, only libpurple-based 17:53:36 <flo> that will change a lot for 0.3 18:09:45 <Raven> And could you create something like a manager protocols for 0.3? 18:10:36 <Raven> No Accounts, as the protocols? 18:11:55 <flo> I don't understand your questions 18:21:15 <Raven> http://pic.ipicture.ru/uploads/090828/pEH75Xw2wB.png 18:22:04 <Raven> Understand? 18:25:34 <flo> ah, a separate tab in the addon manager for protocols 18:25:51 <Raven> Yes 18:26:03 <flo> I don't know if that would be useful. 18:26:31 <flo> I think the new account wizard with be able to automatically fetch a list of installable protocols from the addons website, and maybe even install theme automatically 18:28:29 <Raven> Will have Instantbird codenames? 18:29:34 <Raven> Instead Instantbird-nightly 18:31:34 <Raven> Flo, you here? 18:37:28 <Raven> Okay, bye! :) 18:37:31 <-- Raven has left #instantbird () 19:10:09 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 19:11:00 --> DGMurdockIII has joined #instantbird 19:11:08 <-- Mic has quit (Connection reset by peer) 19:11:35 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 19:13:08 <-- Mic has quit (Connection reset by peer) 19:21:53 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 19:23:38 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.2b1pre) 19:24:36 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 19:30:50 <-- Mic has quit (Connection reset by peer) 19:32:14 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 19:33:30 <Mic> Have I danced in and out? 19:35:20 <Mic> I'm sorry if I have (some strange problem occured: IB stopped reacting, CPU load jumped to 100%, it started consuming lots of memory and reported a not responding script in imSmiley.jsm (with changing line numbers) 19:50:50 <Morian> mmmh 19:51:32 <Morian> I don't have this problem, but there is a bug in mozilla that make theme variant not working 19:51:38 <Morian> it may be related 19:51:58 <Morian> ah 19:52:03 <Morian> you said smileys ... -_- 19:52:18 <Morian> Mic: do you have a custom smiley set ? 19:52:27 <Mic> d'oh! 19:52:33 <Mic> I should have thought of that .. 19:52:37 <Mic> sure I have 19:52:44 <Mic> thanks a lot. 19:53:42 <Morian> since the patch bug 213 has been checked-in... but anyway this behavior shouldn't happen at all, and we'll have to look at it 19:53:46 <instantbot> Morian: Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=213 min, --, 0.2b1, mitch_1_2, RESO FIXED, Fix various strings 19:54:33 <Mic> brb 19:54:34 <-- Mic has left #instantbird () 19:56:02 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 19:56:06 <Mic> :) 19:56:28 <Mic> Theme is fixed (for me) 19:56:43 <Morian> theme variants ? O_o 19:57:01 <Mic> I don't have any message themes 19:57:04 <Morian> ok 19:57:30 <Morian> this smiley problem seems weird :/ 20:00:14 <Mic> flo: can you re-create the smilie themes so that we have working themes on the addon page? 20:02:01 <Mic> smilie themes that lock the whole application are .. doubleplusungood 20:10:07 <instantbot> New Instantbird (UI) bug 227 filed by email@example.com. 20:10:10 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=227 cri, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Old smiley themes with new smiley script lock application 20:10:24 <Morian> :) 20:11:11 <Morian> doubleplusungood ? newspeak (1984) ? 20:12:52 <Mic> yep .. 20:13:17 <Morian> sounds geeky ^^ 20:13:45 <Mic> I've read it on a bug report/complaint from Linus Torvalds recently 20:14:34 <Morian> :-D 20:17:05 <-- DGMurdockIII has quit (Ping timeout) 20:23:13 <flo> arg 20:23:24 <flo> I knew we shouldn't have changed that "texts" thing :( 20:29:27 <-- Mitch has quit (Ping timeout) 20:29:58 --> Mitch has joined #instantbird 20:30:19 <flo> Mic: how bad is that bug? When does the application look up? When opening the smiley theme selection window? When a new conversation starts? 20:30:27 <flo> *lock 20:37:19 --> deOmega has joined #instantbird 20:56:19 <deOmega> hi, just came to give a quick feedback.. in the latest nightly bid, i realized that the default messaging text was increased. I think it is a click too large 20:57:22 <deOmega> nightly build 20:58:00 <Morian> messaging text ? you mean font size ? we haven't made any change concerning this part on the last few days 20:59:44 <Morian> within a week we'll have a patch to allow persistent font size change (ctrl + mouse wheel or ctrl and +/") 21:03:59 --> DGMurdockIII has joined #instantbird 21:09:01 * flo has a patch for bug 227 21:09:05 <instantbot> flo: Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=227 cri, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Old smiley themes with new smiley script lock application 21:12:59 <Mic> re 21:13:18 <Mic> Fixed already? 21:13:27 <flo> no 21:13:31 <flo> will be in the next nightly 21:13:50 <flo> I just found another way to produce the same effect with another error in the smiley theme 21:13:55 <flo> fixing that too :) 21:14:48 <Mic> pff, you know .. I expected you to miraculously access my computer and fix it. Without quitting the program ofcourse. 21:15:38 <flo> :) 21:15:59 <Morian> if you can inject the patch's JS code in memory and find a way to reload it, it is possible ): 21:16:59 <Mic> The number of open bugs is slowly decreasing ... 21:17:19 <flo> well 21:17:23 <Mic> I'm afraid sooner or later well run out of them :S 21:17:43 <Morian> don't be afraid, flo is close to push the new tab systems 21:17:46 <Morian> -s 21:17:50 <flo> let me push the new tabs (I've finished them for linux, need to do the theme for Windows and Mac) and you will have plenty of bugs :-P 21:18:12 <flo> about 2700 new lines of code :) 21:18:34 <Morian> (and it was still very buggy a few hours ago :p) 21:19:07 <flo> there are still bugs that I'm aware of 21:19:36 <flo> but it seems good enough that there's no reason to further delay broader testing ;) 21:32:41 <instantbot> firstname.lastname@example.org added attachment 227 to bug 227. 21:32:43 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=227 cri, --, ---, florian, ASSI, Old smiley themes with new smiley script lock application 21:33:48 <Mic> :) 21:34:23 <flo> ah, the attachment number matches the bug number :) 21:34:39 <Morian> erf 21:50:08 <Mic> I'm sure we can do that on 228 as well :P 22:02:52 <deOmega> Morian:I am sorry, had to run right after posting that,,, and yes, you understand what i am referring to 22:03:57 <Morian> deOmega: has the font size increased since a few days or do you just think it is too large since the beginning ? 22:04:50 <deOmega> I have not used abeta in a while, and cannot say exactly.. maybe 2 weeks or so ago 22:04:59 <deOmega> was the last time i checked 22:05:42 <deOmega> I try to check in now and then to see whe i could keep instantbird permanently 22:06:29 <deOmega> I am suspecting it will be before the year is out :) 22:07:14 <flo> :) 22:07:24 <flo> what's the last feature missing preventing you from keeping it? 22:07:41 <Morian> we haven't changed the font size since the beginning as far as I remember, but well in a few days we'll have a permanent font size change when you change the size with mouse + wheel, on all tabs :) 22:07:46 <deOmega> I do not undestand... it seems liek something like this should have been done YEARS ago... using the mozilla platform. I am stunned that you guys are the only ones on this 22:08:14 <deOmega> BUt happy for you, and US 22:08:57 <deOmega> THank you 22:09:01 <deOmega> What is keeping me 22:09:07 <Morian> :) 22:09:12 <deOmega> well feedback: 22:10:09 <deOmega> As of now: 1. History Feature 2. Text managing. 22:10:15 <deOmega> conversation text 22:11:18 <Morian> history is planed for 0.3, "text managing" you mean being able to have colors, bold text etc... ? 22:11:31 <deOmega> yes 22:11:37 <Morian> 0.3 too 22:11:55 <deOmega> Wow, Well, i am looking forward to .3 22:12:10 <Morian> 0.2 will add a preference dialog, a new tab system 22:12:26 <Morian> some enhancements on the buddy list and the conversation windows 22:12:38 <Morian> instantbot: roadmap 22:12:39 <Morian> :) 22:12:39 <instantbot> Morian: You can find the roadmap at http://wiki.instantbird.org/Instantbird:Roadmap 22:13:35 <deOmega> yes, i have seen the map and appreciate 22:13:42 <deOmega> I actually have it bookmarked 22:14:04 <deOmega> more Ramble: 22:14:21 <deOmega> I use instantmessaging and mirc for business purposes 22:14:55 <deOmega> so, logging is a big deal.... and so is teh abilitity to customize text, for teh sake of easy differentiation 22:15:54 <deOmega> I could request a lot, including group chat, but I am not concerned at this moment about all teh extras.... just looking for some basic functions, and the stuff I mentioned 22:16:27 <deOmega> Sadly too, i kinda do not care too much about the Buddy list window, because that is usually out of the way, but welcome any enhancement you see is necessary 22:16:38 <flo> deOmega: you know instantbird already logs everything to the disk? There's just no UI to consult the logs 22:16:55 <deOmega> no, I did not know that 22:17:25 <Morian> :) 22:18:06 <Morian> C:\Documents and Settings\<USER>\Application Data\Instantbird\Profiles\ something.default\logs\ 22:18:10 <deOmega> anyway i could retrieve it 1. now with other software, 2. later on when you implement teh manager, would it pick those up? 22:18:11 <Morian> if you are using windows 22:18:48 <deOmega> LOL .. you read my mind 22:20:31 <Morian> you won't be able to retrieve it with other softwares (maybe with pidgin if you copy/paste this dir in pidgin's profile) 22:20:59 <Morian> there will probably be a way to retrieve these logs with the log system in 0.3 22:22:14 <deOmega> ah, ok 22:22:32 <deOmega> i was just trying to see here 22:23:06 <deOmega> well, just want you guys toknow that from all i can tell, you have a large base of users on the prowl 22:24:19 <Morian> :) 22:25:06 <Morian> we hope people will get interested by 0.2 to help us doing 0.3 :) 22:25:52 <deOmega> I understand for sure 22:26:32 <deOmega> I know Flo said the installer package will be out too, so, that will make the program more readily available for people that do not know much but just want to chat 22:27:24 <Morian> :) 22:28:03 <Mic> ah, I installed TortoiseHG and finally I can create proper diffs as it seems :) 22:28:22 <Morian> cool :) 22:30:10 <Mic> Morian: It's %appdata%\Instantbird\Profiles\ by the way 22:30:27 <deOmega> may i ask, are some of you here in school while you work on Instantbird? 22:30:43 <Morian> I am 22:31:23 <flo> some of us graduate this year. 22:33:47 <deOmega> thanks, just trying to give someone feedback 22:34:49 <deOmega> how does someone go about helping you guys 22:35:03 <deOmega> I suppose they just come in here and you give them packages to work on? 22:35:23 <Morian> there are many ways to help :) 22:35:40 <Morian> coding, translating, give advices or propose nice features 22:35:55 <Morian> making addons, message themes, emoticon themes 22:36:44 <Morian> the best way if someone want to help us with coding is to read bugzilla.instantbird.org and to submit patches :) 22:37:47 <flo> or really, just find an itch to scratch. Look in the code, and fix/enhance the thing that really matters to you :) 22:38:47 <deOmega> lol. well, i see i have done a couple of those already.. about all i am good at technically: give advices or propose nice features 22:39:00 <deOmega> lol 22:40:12 <Morian> I forgot that you can help too by using nightlies and report broken things :) 22:40:31 <flo> for people who are not experimented with the technologies used, it's better to start with small things, like "... and ... are misaligned, it's ugly, it hurts my eyes every day, I'd really like to fix it" 22:40:54 <Morian> We have a good variety of hardwares and platforms, but there are still some bugs we introduce and discover weeks after. 22:43:37 <deOmega> Well, i will keep on doing my non-technical :) 22:44:14 <deOmega> I was just speaking to someone that is eager to help you, as he is not only very good, but love these kinds of things 22:44:36 <deOmega> however, he is in college and has a boatload of tasks right now 22:44:58 <deOmega> He has indicated that he will try to find a way to come into teh room as soon as things slow down for him and offer a hand 22:45:16 <deOmega> he is really extremely snart 22:45:43 <deOmega> And i know he will be open to any directions you guys have 22:46:01 <Morian> :) 22:46:14 <Morian> any help is welcomed 22:47:01 <deOmega> so, give him some time as his back is up agaiinst teh wall as he is getting ready to continue college and finish some projects he has going on 22:48:07 <deOmega> And i definitely welcome the .02 which i understand will be launched within a month 22:48:35 <Morian> 0.2beta maybe 22:48:55 * deOmega tries the power of suggestion 22:49:00 <Morian> but I honestly doubt 0.2 final will be ready within a month :) 22:49:03 <Morian> :p 22:49:30 <deOmega> beta would be welcome :) 22:50:27 <deOmega> I will do what i can indeed on my end.. i do know some tech stuff, but not enough braincells left to figure out what you guys are trying to do 22:52:36 <Morian> :), you can just idle in this chan or read bugzilla if you want to contribute with tech stuff 22:53:21 <deOmega> ok, i will set to idle here. 22:53:50 <Mic> Try https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=OPEN to see the currently open (= has to be fixed) bugs on the bugtracking system 22:53:59 <deOmega> tell you what though.. that search feature in the message window.. priceless 22:55:12 <Morian> the firefox' search bar :) 22:56:05 <Morian> actually a "not really a bug" prevents from searching text backward, but it will be fixed (at most in 0.2 release) 22:56:06 <deOmega> lol. but u know, i do not see that feature in othe rmessengers i have tried 22:56:29 <deOmega> i could highlight a word just as in firefox and search it etc 22:56:41 <deOmega> no other messenger i recall anyway 22:57:06 <deOmega> OK< i am loooking at the bugzilla 22:58:24 <deOmega> I will try to see what i can do besides read them 22:59:22 <flo> add some more ;) 23:00:10 <Mic> yep, we noticed that we're running low on them ;) 23:00:22 <deOmega> Ohh lol 23:00:26 <Morian> lol 23:01:07 <deOmega> but i woud think a bug is not so much teh need for some sort of enhancement, but something not working right 23:01:29 <deOmega> I have never had any problems with anything oninstantbird not working right... other than lack of features 23:01:40 <Morian> :) 23:01:57 <Morian> we had a 100% CPU + Crash a few hours ago :-D 23:02:11 <Morian> (fixed in tomorrow's nightly) 23:02:45 <deOmega> ok, i am learning 23:04:17 <Morian> (it was a very special case, it's not going to happen to everyone) 23:04:55 <deOmega> well, what i am learning here is that it is not a bad idea to keep using instantbird in an effort to help you guys, as opposed to when it is finished 23:05:51 <Morian> the more people we have using the nightlies, the more bugs we can find 23:11:19 <Mic> Maybe we should do something against the fake users on the wiki. 23:11:38 <Mic> They've started adding spam/adverts recently 23:11:47 <flo> arg 23:11:58 <Mic> Just on their users pages, but anyways 23:12:17 <Mic> http://wiki.instantbird.org/index.php?title=Special%3AListUsers&username=&group=&creationSort=1&limit=500 23:12:29 <Mic> (I order of appearance;) 23:16:24 --> Mitch_ has joined #instantbird 23:16:28 <-- Mitch has quit (Ping timeout) 23:16:36 * Mitch_ is now known as Mitch 23:17:37 * Mitch is now known as IRCMonkey18666 23:19:23 <instantbot> New Instantbird (UI) bug 228 filed by email@example.com. 23:19:25 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=228 nor, --, 0.2, florian, NEW, autologin disabling on crash triggers when an account has no password 23:19:41 <deOmega> so on fonts, allowing the sender's font to come through helps 23:21:54 <Morian> (this is planed for 0.3) 23:22:52 <deOmega> well, it is working now, in terms of bold 23:23:07 <flo> that's just a preference 23:23:11 <deOmega> i am chatting with someone now and his bold font is coming through as such.. just not the color, for what it is worth 23:23:33 <flo> if you want the color too, you can change the value of the preference from about:config 23:23:57 <deOmega> ohh, will do that 23:24:47 <Mic> Do you know how to go to the "about:config" dialog? 23:25:14 <deOmega> i think i saved teh instructions i got from flo 23:25:49 <Mic> ok, fine 23:26:15 <deOmega> type openDialog('about:config') 23:26:46 <deOmega> i am trying to keep notes 23:30:30 <deOmega> persistentIM . could one connect through instantbird using that? 23:31:37 <deOmega> to conference? 23:31:52 <Morian> it's a protocol? 23:31:54 <deOmega> digsby and some others do not have conferencing as yet 23:31:59 <deOmega> and that allows it in them 23:32:19 <deOmega> if it does, one of my peers will keep using Instantbird 23:32:24 <deOmega> let me get the info 23:33:35 <deOmega> http://persistent.im/Home.jsp 23:34:20 <deOmega> he seems interested in supporting you guys, so we will try it i am sure and givea any feedback necessary 23:35:53 <flo> that will probably work with instantbird 23:40:58 <deOmega> ok, we will let you know.. this other guy is interested and knows someone he thinks would be also interested 23:41:12 <deOmega> dunno if or when they will make it in here. 23:43:19 <deOmega> his response: 'cool, i will review. I love open source' 23:46:22 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.2b1pre) 23:46:36 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 23:47:50 <deOmega> hey... godo news 23:48:03 <deOmega> I can get to teh history through windows 23:48:10 <deOmega> the history log 23:48:19 <deOmega> and read them 23:48:38 <Morian> :) 23:48:43 <deOmega> they open in notepad 23:49:59 <deOmega> now listen, i am not trying to make you into digsby... at all.. but they have those saved in the document folder 23:51:07 <deOmega> what one could do in teh mean time, if have a shortcut to wherver they are saved 23:56:41 <Morian> mmh, the current log system is an heritage from libpurple, it will be entirely redesigned in the future