#instantbird log on 07 25 2016

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02:13:01 <instant-buildbot> build #3244 of macosx-nightly-default is complete: Failure [4failed compile]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/macosx-nightly-default/builds/3244
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04:06:31 <instant-buildbot> build #771 of linux64-nightly-default is complete: Failure [4failed compile]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/linux64-nightly-default/builds/771
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08:12:58 <instantbot> New Chat Core - General bug 1289038 filed by intermittent-bug-filer@mozilla.bugs.
08:12:59 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1289038 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Intermittent leakcheck | default process: 152 bytes leaked (CancelableRunnable, ExternalRunnableWrap
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12:19:08 <instantbot> New Chat Core - XMPP bug 1289110 filed by ab@abahmed.com.
12:19:09 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1289110 nor, --, ---, ab, ASSI, Handle delayed delivery for presence stanzas
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12:43:58 <abdelrhman> aleth: I think of working on destroying room (XEP-0045 section 10.9) as I think we do not have urgent features that should be supported sooner till the review of Data Forms is finished
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12:47:06 <aleth> abdelrhman: I don't understand why we need this - does IB create persistent rooms?
12:48:28 <abdelrhman> Currently, No
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12:49:03 <abdelrhman> as the configuration of the room requires data forms
12:49:03 <aleth> Then it doesn't seem urgent. How about xep-0115, account cancellation or message carbons instead?
12:49:19 <aleth> None of these should require UI work
12:50:51 <clokep_work> Message carbons sounds useful. :)
12:51:20 * abdelrhman is reading the XEP of message carbons now
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13:13:58 * abdelrhman likes the idea of message carbons
13:14:30 <abdelrhman> but the status of its XEP is still "Propose"
13:14:44 <abdelrhman> Proposed
13:15:25 <aleth> It's been stable since 2008, I think it's close to standard now.
13:16:22 <abdelrhman> BTW, I think we'll need UI work to allow enabling and disabling it
13:16:30 <aleth> It's status is "draft", so it's basically a release candidate
13:16:45 <aleth> Just add an advanced account option
13:16:59 <clokep_work> Why can't it always be enabled?
13:17:16 <aleth> I agree we should enable it by default
13:17:28 <abdelrhman> we need to send a request to the sever in case enabling or disabling it
13:17:39 <aleth> clokep_work: Maybe a hidden pref is enough?
13:17:52 <abdelrhman> http://xmpp.org/extensions/attic/xep-0280-0.6.html#enabling
13:18:05 <aleth> abdelrhman: that's just implementation details
13:18:48 <clokep_work> aleth: Why even a hidden pref?
13:18:51 <aleth> clokep_work: I suspect the tor guys would want to disable it.
13:19:15 <clokep_work> That's reasonable. ;)
13:19:32 <aleth> And I don't know what long-time XMPP user's preferences on it would be, that's why I suggested exposing it
13:19:55 <abdelrhman> I'm not sure when we enable it for a specific client, close the client, open client again to reconnect. Do we need to re-enable or assume it's enabled?
13:20:24 <aleth> Set it during connection.
13:21:25 <abdelrhman> OK
13:21:36 <aleth> "The server SHOULD NOT treat multiple enable requests (without an intermediate disable request) as an error"
13:23:46 <aleth> abdelrhman, clokep_work: If you don't think some users might see message carbons as noisy, it should definitely be a hidden pref only and not in the advanced options.
13:24:04 <clokep_work> aleth: I'm not 100% sure how it will feel once we turn it on.
13:24:10 <clokep_work> But I really only use one client...
13:24:39 <aleth> Yeah... the main use case for this is people with a mobile and a desktop client I guess
13:26:14 <aleth> abdelrhman: Let's just make it a hidden pref for now and test it in nightlies
13:26:24 <abdelrhman> OK
13:26:47 <abdelrhman> and the default value of it is "on"?
13:26:52 <aleth> yes
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14:22:48 <clokep_work> aleth: I wonder if you saw bug 1288959?
14:22:50 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1288959 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, IRC changes nick to "undefined" when private message person changes nick
14:22:55 <clokep_work> You probably know the TB UI better than me.
14:22:56 <clokep_work> (Or flo-retina.)
14:41:28 <aleth> Doesn't ring a bell.
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15:30:22 <flo-retina> clokep_work: I haven't touched (or read) the TB UI in a long while :-/.
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