#instantbird log on 05 19 2016

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02:27:08 <instant-buildbot> build #3173 of macosx-nightly-default is complete: Failure [4failed compile]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/macosx-nightly-default/builds/3173
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14:27:12 <abdelrhman> clokep_work: I updated this list (https://public.etherpad-mozilla.org/p/xmpp-status) with my GSoC work that should be done
14:29:53 <aleth> abdelrhman: Could you order that by priority and mark those (maybe in bold) which block replacing the libpurple XMPP?
14:29:55 <aleth> thanks
14:30:16 <abdelrhman> OK
14:32:01 <abdelrhman> Note: the GSoC part is at the end
14:46:48 <abdelrhman> aleth: thanks for that link ;)
15:11:57 <abdelrhman> aleth,clokep_work: attention command will be used if the user didn't answer the first message or the conversation is already opened and the user didn't notice a recent message
15:11:58 <aleth> abdelrhman: re attention, basically you are suggesting inventing something like "pinging someone" for normal conversations. But if I remember right the current code treats *every* message in a normal conv as a ping
15:12:23 <aleth> so what exactly are you proposing?
15:16:42 <abdelrhman> I want to emphasize this message is urgent or important by using any different behavior from receiving message in normal conversation 
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15:19:57 <aleth> how?
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15:26:57 <abdelrhman> I'm not sure about behaviors available, at least we can use a different sound notification 
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15:40:53 <abdelrhman> Is that OK?
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15:51:48 <clokep_work> flo-retina: Do you have any opinion on this?
15:51:55 <clokep_work> I seem to recall you were the one who didn't like those ideas.
15:52:52 <flo-retina> we can use the sound used for pings. We can make the tab turn blue. We can make the line bold.
15:52:59 <flo-retina> ie. like we do for pings in MUCs.
15:53:22 <aleth> I think ab's point is that the ping sound in MUCS is == the new message sound in convs atm
15:53:41 <flo-retina> really?
15:53:47 <flo-retina> I thought we had a different one
15:53:49 <aleth> idk, I don't use sounds ;)
15:53:55 <aleth> I'd be OK with adding a notion of pinging in convs fwiw
15:53:56 <flo-retina> neither do I!
15:55:16 <aleth> Having two different sounds makes sense to me as long as it's consistent.
16:01:24 <flo-retina> aleth: http://mxr.mozilla.org/comm-central/source/im/modules/ibSounds.jsm#47
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16:02:41 <aleth> flo-retina: aha :-)
16:02:51 <aleth> abdelrhman: ok, then it should be fairly easy to fix for you ;)
16:03:03 <clokep_work> Ah, that makes sense.
16:03:11 <clokep_work> Just make it *seems* like you got a ping / new message.
16:03:22 <clokep_work> And add a system message "So and so pinged you" or whatever.
16:03:50 <aleth> You only need a system message if there is no message provided to print in bold
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16:20:04 <abdelrhman> That's good :), the remaining part is the service discovery
16:22:29 <abdelrhman> Will we show support for this when user (who wishes to send attention) by default?
16:26:19 <clokep_work> I'm not sure what your question is.
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16:29:01 <clokep_work> abdelrhman: Can you re-word your question?
16:32:00 <abdelrhman> "If an entity wishes to receive the attention extension, it MUST advertise that fact in its responses to Service Discovery (XEP-0030) 4 information (”disco#info”) requests by returning a feature of ”urn:xmpp:attention:0”"
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16:33:55 <abdelrhman> should we allow receiving by default?
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16:48:01 <clokep_work> I don't see a reason to even ask the user it.
16:48:40 <abdelrhman> OK
16:49:48 <clokep_work> abdelrhman: So that will be easy to add after the fact, sod on't worry about that and get the protocol pieces done!
16:50:31 <abdelrhman> OK :)
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