#instantbird log on 04 25 2016

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03:22:10 <instant-buildbot> build #3149 of macosx-nightly-default is complete: Success [3build successful]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/macosx-nightly-default/builds/3149
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21:15:34 <clokep_work> aleth: Is DIGEST-MD5 is vaguely stronger?
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21:19:30 <aleth> Stronger than base64-encoded plaintext? I would have thought so
21:19:46 <aleth> However, https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6331 makes me wonder
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21:23:30 <clokep_work> Ah, I just summoned flo-retina apparently!
21:26:45 <flo-retina> hmm?
21:27:22 <clokep_work> flo-retina: Discussing bug 1267410
21:27:24 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1267410 nor, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, XMPP connection problem when using SASL DIGEST-MD5 authentication
21:28:13 <flo-retina> ah
21:28:35 <flo-retina> FWIW, DIGEST-MD5 is what we used to connect to the Facebook Chat XMPP gateway
21:28:55 <flo-retina> and I remember spending time to fix it for cases that involved accentuated characters (ie. unicode) in passwords!
21:28:56 <aleth> ah, maybe only a subset was implemented?
21:29:15 <flo-retina> (a case that Pidgin didn't support, btw)
21:33:59 <aleth> "DIGEST-MD5 requires all usernames/passwords that can be entirely represented in the ISO-8859-1 charset to be down converted from UTF-8 [RFC3629] to ISO-8859-1 [ISO-8859-1]." sounds like that was "fun"
21:35:45 <aleth> clokep_work: IRC always uses PLAIN, right?
21:40:57 <clokep_work> aleth: That's all we support at least.
21:41:02 <clokep_work> I think some servers support other things, but not many.
21:41:10 <clokep_work> This code should be abstracted, probably. But...
21:47:34 <clokep_work> Could be that DIGEST-MD5 is broken on that server too?
21:48:42 <clokep_work> aleth: I was totally ready to reply "I defer to flo-retina" but I totally r+ed that other bug.
21:48:44 <clokep_work> Dammit!
21:49:19 <aleth> clokep_work: I don't think that other bug is wrong per se, it's just that DIGEST-MD5 has issues which we both weren't aware of.
21:49:56 <clokep_work> I suspect it's that PLAIN is less secure, but DIGEST-MD5 has implementation / compatibility issues.
21:50:03 <clokep_work> So it depends on yours cale there. :)
21:50:50 <clokep_work> aleth: It's weird that they prefer PLAIN though? That's what the ordering there means?
21:51:04 <aleth> I am not sure the ordering is relevant
21:51:19 <aleth> it seems to me the preferred option would be SCRAM
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