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00:02:06 <-- Bollebib has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 00:12:56 <clokep_work> aleth++++ 00:21:01 <bgmCoder> thanks for looking 00:21:48 <bgmCoder> our organization is moving from google apps to o365 (no, I'm not happy about it) and I want to keep using my instantbird for chat with my coworkers, so I'm quite interested in the Office Communicator 00:22:24 <bgmCoder> thanks for your time, fellas 00:24:05 --> Alex1 has joined #instantbird 00:26:57 <clokep_work> bgmCoder: https://bug1249161.bmoattachments.org/attachment.cgi?id=8730999 00:26:59 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1249161 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Account preferences UI is askew in SIPE settings 00:32:58 <bgmCoder> looks promising! 00:33:12 <bgmCoder> Hey, can you upvote my question here? http://superuser.com/questions/1050850/what-are-the-settings-for-instantbirds-office-communicator-and-lync 00:36:10 <clokep_work> Specifying Instantbird there was proabbly not the best idea. ;) 00:36:15 <clokep_work> It should be the same as Pidgin. 00:36:29 <bgmCoder> yeah probably. I even created the instantbird tag! 00:36:31 <clokep_work> I don't have a Superuser account, sorry. 00:36:31 <bgmCoder> haha 00:37:00 <bgmCoder> I've tried with the pidgin settings and can't get it 00:37:10 <bgmCoder> clokep_work: no problem; thanks for looking 00:37:36 <EionRobb> does it work with pidgin? 00:38:22 <bgmCoder> I don't know 00:38:29 <bgmCoder> they have a page for it though 00:38:58 <bgmCoder> bbl 00:39:08 <EionRobb> cos if the pidgin settings aren't working in pidgin then you're going to have a heck of a time getting them to work in instantbird :P 00:39:22 --> nhnt11 has joined #instantbird 00:39:22 * ChanServ sets mode +h nhnt11 00:44:26 * nhnt11 wonders how much longer aleth will be around today 00:45:06 <clokep_work> nhnt11: What's up? 00:45:31 <nhnt11> clokep_work: I'm building c-c and intend to make progress on my Ib patch queue this evening 00:45:41 <clokep_work> nhnt11: Well I'm around. :-D 00:45:51 <nhnt11> ð 00:45:56 <nhnt11> WFM :P 00:46:12 <nhnt11> looks like you just volunteered to do some reviews 00:49:21 <clokep_work> r- 00:49:31 <-- mpmc has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.6a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 00:50:16 <nhnt11> how mean 00:51:26 <clokep_work> We can trade reviews. ;) 01:05:48 <clokep_work> bgmCoder: bug 1257046 might help too 01:05:50 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1257046 nor, --, ---, clokep, ASSI, Upgrade sipe to 1.20.1 01:05:54 <instantbot> New Chat Core - General bug 1257046 filed by clokep@patrick.cloke.us. 01:21:07 <-- chrisccoulson has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 01:25:28 --> chrisccoulson has joined #instantbird 01:41:59 --> nhnt12 has joined #instantbird 01:41:59 * ChanServ sets mode +h nhnt12 01:43:40 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: Instantbird 48) 01:43:53 <-- nhnt11 has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 01:43:53 * nhnt12 is now known as nhnt11 01:49:15 <clokep_work> EionRobb: Are there any hints for building Finch/Pidgin on Mac? 01:49:35 <EionRobb> "use fink or macports" I believe 01:49:48 <clokep_work> Hm. OK. 01:50:09 <EionRobb> there was someone who made an xcode project for it for a more 'native' build 01:50:27 <EionRobb> https://sourceforge.net/projects/pidgin-macosx/ 01:51:28 <clokep_work> Yeah I don't want any of that. 01:51:37 <EionRobb> what are you wanting? :) 01:51:42 <clokep_work> ./configure && make? 01:51:46 <bgmCoder> hi, y'all, I'm back! 01:51:49 <bgmCoder> yay! 01:51:57 <bgmCoder> had to feed the sheep 01:52:01 <bgmCoder> and say night prayers 01:52:15 <EionRobb> clokep_work: I guess that's what macports/fink does, but it does all the dependencies for you 01:53:11 <clokep_work> I use homebrew, macports is terrible. 01:53:22 <clokep_work> But... there's no configure script? 01:53:49 <clokep_work> I.e. I expected https://developer.pidgin.im/wiki/Installing%20Pidgin#Compiling to work-ish. 01:53:57 <EionRobb> why wouldn't it? 01:54:36 <EionRobb> oh https://gist.github.com/cyphunk/5048773 talks about homebrew 01:55:44 <clokep_work> ./configure tells me configure doesn't exist. :) 01:56:18 <clokep_work> I must be doing something stupid. 01:56:23 <EionRobb> :D 01:56:28 <EionRobb> is it +x mod? 01:57:30 <clokep_work> Shouldn't it be like that in the repository? :P 01:58:06 * clokep_work shrugs and gives up. 02:05:59 <clokep_work> EionRobb: Is the kosher way to do things via BitBucket PRs or attaching patches to trac now? 02:11:50 --> durwasa has joined #instantbird 02:24:19 <-- nhnt11 has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 02:40:42 <-- clokep_work has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 02:48:26 --> durwasa_dc has joined #instantbird 03:02:42 <-- Alex1 has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 03:12:00 <instant-buildbot> build #635 of linux64-nightly-default is complete: Failure [4failed compile] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/linux64-nightly-default/builds/635 03:14:29 <instant-buildbot> build #3104 of macosx-nightly-default is complete: Failure [4failed compile] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/macosx-nightly-default/builds/3104 03:15:28 --> nhnt11 has joined #instantbird 03:15:28 * ChanServ sets mode +h nhnt11 03:19:31 <-- nhnt11 has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 03:21:14 --> bogdan_maris has joined #instantbird 03:26:05 <-- bogdan_maris has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 03:27:34 <-- bgmCoder has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.6a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 03:39:10 <EionRobb> clokep-M: we're leaning towards PRs at the moment 04:04:52 <-- EionRobb has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 04:36:25 --> EionRobb has joined #instantbird 04:40:08 --> nhnt11 has joined #instantbird 04:40:08 * ChanServ sets mode +h nhnt11 04:55:31 <-- Mook_as has quit (Connection closed) 04:56:25 --> Mook_as has joined #instantbird 05:32:07 <-- durwasa has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 05:33:14 <-- durwasa_dc has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 06:53:01 --> Bollebib has joined #instantbird 07:49:50 --> durwasa_dc has joined #instantbird 08:04:48 --> jsmaniac has joined #instantbird 08:06:10 <-- jsmaniac has quit (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client) 08:06:43 --> jsmaniac has joined #instantbird 08:07:10 <-- Bollebib has quit (Connection closed) 08:07:13 --> Bollebib has joined #instantbird 08:13:06 <-- nhnt11 has quit (Connection closed) 08:13:21 --> nhnt11 has joined #instantbird 08:13:21 * ChanServ sets mode +h nhnt11 08:14:07 <-- jsmaniac has quit (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client) 08:14:15 --> jsmaniac has joined #instantbird 08:16:26 <-- jsmaniac has quit (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client) 08:17:41 --> 203AASZWN has joined #instantbird 08:24:45 <-- 203AASZWN has quit (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client) 08:32:08 <-- nhnt11 has quit (A TLS packet with unexpected length was received.) 08:32:57 --> nhnt11 has joined #instantbird 08:32:57 * ChanServ sets mode +h nhnt11 09:04:13 --> mpmc has joined #instantbird 09:12:32 --> gerard-majax has joined #instantbird 09:13:06 --> jsmaniac has joined #instantbird 09:13:20 <jsmaniac> what's the difference between a buddy and a contact ? 09:13:54 <-- jsmaniac has quit (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client) 09:21:37 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 09:21:37 * ChanServ sets mode +o aleth 09:25:30 <-- gerard-majax has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 09:26:35 --> gerard-majax has joined #instantbird 09:33:16 --> AlexanderSalas has joined #instantbird 09:35:31 <-- gerard-majax has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 09:36:48 --> gerard-majax has joined #instantbird 09:40:29 <durwasa_dc> jsmaniac :: make a different instance increase the font-size : x-large and see the difference :) :) took me half an hour to get the diff 09:40:56 <durwasa_dc> aleth, text-scaling is 1 for my system ... 09:41:51 <durwasa_dc> aleth, but i guess this one is right https://pastebin.mozilla.org/8863810 09:42:07 <durwasa_dc> http://imgur.com/9hBEhoY 09:43:15 --> AlexanderSalas1 has joined #instantbird 09:43:34 <-- AlexanderSalas1 has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.6a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 09:44:09 <-- AlexanderSalas has quit (Connection closed) 09:44:57 --> AlexanderSalas has joined #instantbird 09:45:43 --> AlexanderSalas1 has joined #instantbird 09:45:43 <-- AlexanderSalas has quit (Connection closed) 09:45:43 * AlexanderSalas1 is now known as AlexanderSalas 09:51:36 <-- AlexanderSalas has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.6a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 09:56:42 <-- nhnt11 has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 09:57:07 <-- gerard-majax has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 10:00:46 --> gerard-majax has joined #instantbird 10:04:47 <-- gerard-majax has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 10:06:20 --> AlexanderSalas has joined #instantbird 10:08:09 <-- AlexanderSalas has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.6a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 10:08:18 --> AlexanderSalas has joined #instantbird 10:12:24 <-- AlexanderSalas has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 10:20:09 <-- durwasa_dc has quit (Connection closed) 10:28:06 --> BWMerlin has joined #instantbird 10:29:18 --> abdelrhman has joined #instantbird 10:36:13 --> nhnt11 has joined #instantbird 10:36:13 * ChanServ sets mode +h nhnt11 10:37:21 --> gerard-majax has joined #instantbird 10:54:27 --> AlexanderSalas has joined #instantbird 10:54:45 <-- AlexanderSalas has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.6a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 10:59:07 --> AlexanderSalas has joined #instantbird 11:02:59 <-- AlexanderSalas has quit (Connection closed) 11:04:03 --> AlexanderSalas has joined #instantbird 11:04:21 <-- flo-retina has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.6a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 11:08:08 <-- AlexanderSalas has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 11:25:16 <-- nhnt11 has quit (Connection closed) 11:25:54 --> nhnt11 has joined #instantbird 11:25:54 * ChanServ sets mode +h nhnt11 11:34:18 --> nhnt11-testing has joined #instantbird 11:36:05 <-- nhnt11-testing has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.6a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 11:36:19 --> nhnt11-testing has joined #instantbird 11:37:15 <-- nhnt11-testing has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.6a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 11:38:15 <instantbot> New Instantbird - Contacts window bug 1257147 filed by aleth@instantbird.org. 11:38:16 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1257147 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Dotted border square icon has disappeared 11:40:40 --> nhnt12 has joined #instantbird 11:40:40 * ChanServ sets mode +h nhnt12 11:40:47 <-- nhnt11 has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 11:40:47 * nhnt12 is now known as nhnt11 11:52:17 --> flo-retina has joined #instantbird 11:52:17 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo-retina flo-retina 12:16:24 <-- nhnt11 has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 12:22:05 --> clokep_work has joined #instantbird 12:22:05 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep_work 12:33:44 <clokep_work> aleth: Thank you for the reviews. 12:47:32 <-- BWMerlin has quit (Client exited) 12:49:29 --> bgmCoder has joined #instantbird 12:52:56 <clokep_work> bgmCoder: What OS are you on again? 12:53:03 <instantbot> clokep@patrick.cloke.us changed the Resolution on bug 1257046 from --- to FIXED. 12:53:04 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1257046 nor, --, Instantbird 48, clokep, RESO FIXED, Upgrade sipe to 1.20.1 12:54:12 <bgmCoder> clokep_work: Windows 7 x64 12:54:42 <clokep_work> bgmCoder: Hmm...OK. I just upgrade the version of the Office Communicator code we use in Instantbird, so it'll be in the next nightly build for Windows. 12:54:47 <clokep_work> But I don't know when that will happen. 12:55:14 <bgmCoder> okay 12:55:20 <bgmCoder> thank you for your time and attention 12:59:15 <-- flo-retina has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 13:00:43 <clokep_work> No problem. :) 13:04:49 --> flo-retina has joined #instantbird 13:04:49 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo-retina flo-retina 13:06:07 --> durwasa has joined #instantbird 13:08:28 <-- mpmc has quit (A TLS packet with unexpected length was received.) 13:21:05 --> mpmc has joined #instantbird 13:45:37 <-- mpmc has quit (A TLS packet with unexpected length was received.) 13:51:00 --> mpmc has joined #instantbird 13:54:07 --> jsmaniac has joined #instantbird 13:57:03 <-- durwasa has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 13:58:35 <-- jsmaniac has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 14:05:06 <flo-retina> clokep_work: so after that bonjour fix you sent upstream, we are loading the bonjour system library at runtime on mac? 14:06:58 <-- Fallen has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 14:07:17 --> jsmaniac has joined #instantbird 14:09:06 --> durwasa has joined #instantbird 14:09:09 <clokep_work> flo-retina: I was able to make an account...I didn't have anyone to chat with. 14:09:11 * clokep_work has no friends. :'( 14:09:12 --> Fallen has joined #instantbird 14:10:02 --> jsmaniac1 has joined #instantbird 14:10:15 <clokep_work> flo-retina: I just tested by talking between two IBs on my system. 14:10:17 <clokep_work> That worked. 14:10:32 <clokep_work> There's some quuestions about whether the fix upstream is 'correct'. 14:10:35 <clokep_work> But it was merged. 14:10:58 <flo-retina> well, if it works I guess it's OK. 14:11:05 <jsmaniac1> is this bug resolved ? https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=953721 , because as of now I joined #ubuntu on freenode 1892 participants smoothly slided in the participants list :) 14:11:07 <instantbot> Bug 953721 min, --, ---, benediktp, NEW, Nicklist painfully slow 14:11:19 <-- jsmaniac has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 14:11:31 <jsmaniac1> there was no freeze 14:11:32 * jsmaniac1 is now known as jsmaniac 14:15:44 --> jsmaniac1 has joined #instantbird 14:17:06 <clokep_work> jsmaniac: Generally things that are 'solved' are closed, but it's possible something fixed it... 14:17:11 <-- jsmaniac has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 14:18:35 --> jsmaniac has joined #instantbird 14:19:37 <jsmaniac> so does that mean that maybe some other bug's solution affected this bug ( maybe both sharing irc.js )and has solved it ? 14:19:46 <-- jsmaniac1 has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 14:19:51 <instantbot> New Instantbird - Other bug 1257187 filed by clokep@patrick.cloke.us. 14:19:53 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1257187 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Awesometab should sort by number of participants if no other information 14:19:56 <clokep_work> jsmaniac: I don't understand what the second part of that question was. 14:20:06 <clokep_work> jsmaniac: I suspect your computer can just handle 2000 participants with no problem and Mic's couldn't. 14:21:04 <jsmaniac> then let me try with the largest IRC channel and re-assure this 14:21:12 <clokep_work> :) 14:21:25 <clokep_work> freaktechnik probably has fun test cases from Twitch.tv. 14:21:51 <freaktechnik> you mean > 2000 participants? 14:21:52 <freaktechnik> Yeah 14:22:41 <-- jsmaniac has quit (Connection closed) 14:22:43 <freaktechnik> I have a computer that even handles 10000 participants in Thunderbird quite well (by which I mean it doesn't hang for like two minutes when changing channel) 14:22:47 <flo-retina> almost sure that's either a duplicate, or something that was in the initial design but never implemented. 14:23:05 --> jsmaniac has joined #instantbird 14:27:07 <-- jsmaniac has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 14:28:21 --> jsmaniac has joined #instantbird 14:32:18 <clokep_work> Woot. I had a UI idea that flo-retina actually liked. ;) 14:34:23 <-- jsmaniac has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 14:36:41 --> jsmaniac has joined #instantbird 14:39:16 --> jsmaniac1 has joined #instantbird 14:40:43 <-- jsmaniac has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 14:40:43 * jsmaniac1 is now known as jsmaniac 14:45:21 --> jsmaniac1 has joined #instantbird 14:46:33 <-- jsmaniac has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 14:49:23 <-- jsmaniac1 has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 14:58:05 <instantbot> aleth@instantbird.org changed the Resolution on bug 953721 from --- to WORKSFORME. 14:58:07 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=953721 min, --, ---, benediktp, RESO WORKSFORME, Nicklist painfully slow 15:15:13 <-- durwasa has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 15:30:17 --> jsmaniac has joined #instantbird 15:33:00 <-- Tonnes has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 45.0/20160303134406]) 15:38:06 --> Tonnes has joined #instantbird 15:50:26 <-- jsmaniac has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 15:50:37 --> jsmaniac has joined #instantbird 15:55:40 <-- jsmaniac has quit (A TLS packet with unexpected length was received.) 15:59:15 <aleth> clokep_work++ for looking at libpurple! 16:05:00 <clokep_work> aleth: You're welcome. ;) 16:05:06 <clokep_work> I had some free time last night... 16:06:03 <clokep_work> aleth: Thanks for putting screenshots up. 16:06:09 <clokep_work> I see the same thing on OSX, mostly. 16:06:23 <clokep_work> I just think putting them both on the same line is a mistake and we have no 'good' way to know. 16:06:27 <aleth> clokep_work: I mixed them up unfortunately so the descriptions don't match the sceenshots :-/ 16:06:34 <clokep_work> :( 16:06:39 <clokep_work> You can modify descriptions. 16:07:01 <clokep_work> I think making the window just wider isn't a fix, unfortunately. 16:07:05 * clokep_work wonders if flo-retina has any opinion. 16:07:20 <clokep_work> I know he likes to correct me when I try to touch UI. :-D 16:07:23 <aleth> clokep_work: It might be a mistake, but I'm not convinced yet - look at the screenshot where long labels get wordwrapped nicely. 16:07:50 <clokep_work> https://bug1249161.bmoattachments.org/attachment.cgi?id=8731291 I assume 16:07:52 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1249161 nor, --, ---, clokep, ASSI, Account preferences UI is askew in SIPE settings 16:07:56 <clokep_work> aleth: I think we might have different opinions of 'nicely'. 16:08:01 <clokep_work> I still think that looks terrible. 16:08:11 <clokep_work> Is that from the wizard or by adding a different width where you asked me to? 16:08:20 <aleth> clokep_work: I agree it's not great, but it's not *broken* 16:08:33 <aleth> clokep_work: it's from the wizard. I didn't look at the code. 16:09:53 <flo-retina> I haven't seen screenshots, but wrapping in general sounds better than arbitrarily enlarging dialogs, especially as localized strings can sometimes be twice as long as the en-US one 16:10:57 <aleth> Yeah, you'd still need to make sure wrapping worked with clokep's suggestion of having the description on a separate line 16:11:13 <clokep_work> aleth: It *does* work, the screenshot I put up shows that. :-S 16:11:19 <clokep_work> I feel like we're talking past each other. :-\ 16:13:56 <-- fredy has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 16:19:24 <aleth> clokep_work: I commented 16:19:39 <clokep_work> Thanks. 16:20:41 <clokep_work> aleth: Yeah...showing which label goes with what is important too. 16:20:45 <clokep_work> I don't want to fix CSS though. :P 16:20:50 <clokep_work> I'll take a look at it. 16:21:03 <clokep_work> abdelrhman: Btw thanks for combing all that code about rendering account options. :) 16:21:07 <clokep_work> combining 16:21:15 <aleth> Nobody ever wants to fix CSS ;) 16:25:58 <clokep_work> :-D 16:27:45 * clokep_work debates whether he wants to look at compiling Additional Protos for TB for Tb 45. 16:30:36 --> jsmaniac has joined #instantbird 16:32:25 --> jsmaniac1 has joined #instantbird 16:33:18 <clokep_work> jsmaniac, jsmaniac1: So a buddy and contact...yeah...there's a difference. 16:33:23 <clokep_work> There's pretty good comments in the interfaces. 16:34:38 <-- jsmaniac has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 16:34:52 * jsmaniac1 is now known as jsmaniac 16:35:48 <-- jsmaniac has quit (Connection closed) 16:37:36 --> durwasa has joined #instantbird 16:37:56 --> jsmaniac has joined #instantbird 16:39:49 <aleth> jsmaniac: from the user point of view, you can combine buddies (from different protocols) into a single contact 16:40:10 <jsmaniac> there must be a feature to notify the user if the message has got through, or has dropped due to some reason ( you know internet failure, cosmic rays from aliens, etc ) and store that message temporarily to resend on clicking that message 16:40:31 <jsmaniac> because I typed massages on hangouts and then checked on the web client that hadn't gone through :( 16:40:59 <jsmaniac> even now I am confirming the delivery of these messages by looking at the logs 16:41:38 <jsmaniac> I though the sound plays on successful delivery of the message ( otherwise what's is the point of that sound ? ) 16:42:18 <flo-retina> confirming you pressed enter, and some random nearby key instead 16:42:25 <flo-retina> *and not 16:43:18 <jsmaniac> but the message won't show in the conversation window , if I didn't press enter ( atleast till this point I thought so ) 16:43:56 <flo-retina> if you are looking at the conversation window, you don't need sound for incoming messages either 16:44:00 <jsmaniac> also my primary concern is not about the sound ( yeah it is one ) but mainly I am talking about the failure of messages , but still they are shown in the conv window 16:44:46 <flo-retina> on most protocols we don't get a delivery receipt, so once we have successfully sent the message to the server we are connected to, all we can do is hope the server will successfully deliver the message to its intended recipient 16:45:06 <jsmaniac> I think it is implemented exactly opposite in all the web IM clients , which has made me accustomed to thinking that sound / flashing == new msg arrived 16:46:22 <jsmaniac> @flo-retina but hangouts, fb have this feature , where I can click the msg to resend . Its color changes saying " msg failed to deliver " 16:46:55 <flo-retina> facebook message delivery notices are anything but reliable. 16:47:44 <clokep_work> jsmaniac: Facebook and Hangouts have some concept of message receipt. 16:47:45 <flo-retina> also, why would you need to resend yourself? 16:47:48 <clokep_work> IRC certainly does not. 16:47:54 <clokep_work> Although IRCv3 might, I forget. 16:48:04 <flo-retina> if your message reached the server, why wouldn't the server attempt to resend automatically for you? 16:48:39 <jsmaniac> yeah @flo-retina I think then in my case mostly the msgs didn't even reach the server 16:49:07 <flo-retina> Instantbird likely shows an error message in that case (if you got disconnected) 16:49:28 <clokep_work> IRC doesn't. 16:49:29 <clokep_work> IIRC. 16:49:32 <aleth> I'm not even sure there's a good way to tell if a message reached the server 16:50:03 <aleth> Like clokep says, most protocols don't confirm receipt either by user or by server 16:50:04 <flo-retina> grr, that participant list is broken again, "aleth" isn't there and can't be completed :( 16:50:24 <aleth> flo-retina: I've never seen that, could it be something to do with your tunnel? 16:50:40 <flo-retina> aleth: if we failed to write the message through the socket, that's a strong indication that it failed to be sent to the server, right? 16:50:47 <flo-retina> aleth: no. 16:51:19 <flo-retina> The only add-ons I have are ctypes-otr, and Toggle Participant List 16:51:53 <aleth> flo-retina: I would think we handle that case ;) 16:52:18 <freaktechnik> IRCv3 adds a capability that you can tell the server to echo all your messages back 16:52:24 <aleth> jsmaniac: since you have a bad connection, you are the perfect person to test and improve what happens when message sends fail ;) 16:53:53 <jsmaniac> @aleth yeah , necessity is the mother of invention :) , I will even try to write an extension which polls this channel logs and inserts the missing messages between my dis-connection and re-connection , that way I wouldn't miss any messages . 16:54:27 <jsmaniac> btw I tried out ambience theme it's so good , only the smiley heads are too big 16:54:29 <flo-retina> you can make the extension add a prefix to the messages, so that you'll notice when something was missed. 16:58:29 <-- jsmaniac has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 16:58:52 --> jsmaniac has joined #instantbird 16:58:54 <-- gerard-majax has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 16:59:43 <jsmaniac> @flo-retina yeah , this will also help in my learning curve , I am starting on it , will ping you guys here when I need something :) 16:59:43 <jsmaniac> @clokep_work , to start with I have cloned your smiley extension repo to learn from , great extension ;) 17:03:44 <-- jsmaniac has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 17:06:53 <-- flo-retina has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.6a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 17:08:29 --> jsmaniac has joined #instantbird 17:24:48 --> gerard-majax has joined #instantbird 17:30:57 <clokep_work> jsmaniac: That's not my extension. 17:31:09 <clokep_work> I don't know if it's a good one to learn from. 17:31:14 <clokep_work> Personally, I dislike that extension, but meh. 17:31:24 <clokep_work> freaktechnik: Right, we should implement that. 17:31:27 <jsmaniac> I thinkits mic's , sae the install.rdf later 17:32:05 <jsmaniac> it is a simple one , which is why i choose it , code is little 17:33:00 <jsmaniac> guide me with resources to write an extension for IB , i think its not much different from a firefox extension right ? 17:33:30 <jsmaniac> i really want to write this extension , because reading through the logs is a bit tiresome 17:36:06 --> jsmaniac1 has joined #instantbird 17:36:09 <-- jsmaniac1 has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.6a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 17:37:31 <-- jsmaniac has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 17:37:52 --> jsmaniac has joined #instantbird 17:46:32 --> flo-retina has joined #instantbird 17:46:32 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo-retina flo-retina 17:46:58 <clokep_work> jsmaniac: It is his, yes. 17:47:42 <-- gerard-majax has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 17:49:01 --> jsmaniac1 has joined #instantbird 17:49:56 <-- jsmaniac has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 17:49:56 * jsmaniac1 is now known as jsmaniac 17:49:59 --> gerard-majax has joined #instantbird 17:55:17 --> jsmaniac1 has joined #instantbird 17:55:59 <-- jsmaniac has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 17:55:59 * jsmaniac1 is now known as jsmaniac 18:02:22 <freaktechnik> clokep_work: Implementing the basic function should be pretty easy. Instantbird has no problem with incoming messages having the name of the user as the sender. So all that's needed is disabling local printing when activating the capability and marking those echos as outgoing... 18:02:37 <-- aleth has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 18:02:38 <freaktechnik> but I haven't seen anyone offer me that cap yet. 18:04:21 <clokep_work> freaktechnik: That's always the thing, yes. :) 18:04:44 --> jsmaniac1 has joined #instantbird 18:04:54 <-- jsmaniac has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 18:04:54 * jsmaniac1 is now known as jsmaniac 18:05:01 <-- jsmaniac has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.6a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 18:05:27 --> jsmaniac has joined #instantbird 18:07:16 <freaktechnik> hmm, there's a module for znc that implements the CAP 18:08:56 <clokep_work> Oh? Neat. 18:10:27 <freaktechnik> https://github.com/znc/znc/pull/950 18:11:30 <-- jsmaniac has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 18:11:32 --> jsmaniac1 has joined #instantbird 18:11:51 <clokep_work> NEat. :) 18:11:57 <clokep_work> Should be an extremely easy change on our end. 18:14:00 * jsmaniac1 is now known as jsmaniac 18:17:17 <jsmaniac> also I had a query, where does the code for this IRC client-server live , is it on open ? 18:17:37 <-- gerard-majax has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 18:18:00 <clokep_work> jsmaniac: I don't understand the question. 18:18:04 <clokep_work> What do you mean by "Client-server"? 18:18:09 <clokep_work> And by "is it open"? 18:19:10 --> gerard-majax has joined #instantbird 18:20:41 --> jsmaniac1 has joined #instantbird 18:21:03 <jsmaniac1> ohhh i got a bit confused and framed an irrelevant question , what I wanted to know was which IRCd runs on the mozilla server that is enabling this chat 18:21:36 <-- jsmaniac has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 18:21:36 * jsmaniac1 is now known as jsmaniac 18:22:18 <clokep_work> jsmaniac: We're not the people to ask that. 18:22:20 <clokep_work> I don't remember. 18:22:29 <clokep_work> We don't have anything to do with running that. 18:22:46 <-- clokep_work has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.6a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 18:22:49 --> clokep_work has joined #instantbird 18:22:49 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep_work 18:23:30 <clokep_work> Seems to be InspIRCd-2.0 though. 18:27:08 --> jsmaniac1 has joined #instantbird 18:27:39 <-- jsmaniac has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 18:29:07 --> arlolra has joined #instantbird 18:31:10 <-- jsmaniac1 has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 18:31:25 --> jsmaniac has joined #instantbird 18:34:42 --> jsmaniac1 has joined #instantbird 18:35:28 <-- jsmaniac has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 18:35:28 * jsmaniac1 is now known as jsmaniac 18:37:24 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 18:37:24 * ChanServ sets mode +o aleth 18:37:46 <-- gerard-majax has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 18:49:27 <-- abdelrhman has quit (Connection closed) 18:49:31 --> abdelrhman has joined #instantbird 18:53:30 <-- mpmc has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.6a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 18:57:26 <-- jsmaniac has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 19:03:14 * clokep_work twiddles his thumbs. 19:03:24 <clokep_work> arlolra: Hope you don't mind me splitting that patch up into two uploads. 19:03:32 <clokep_work> The Bugzilla UI doesn't handle multiple patches in one file very well... 19:03:45 <arlolra> no problem 19:05:24 <-- EionRobb has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 19:11:21 --> bogdan_maris has joined #instantbird 19:13:53 <-- abdelrhman has quit (Connection closed) 19:13:57 --> abdelrhman has joined #instantbird 19:22:00 <instantbot> rkent@caspia.com set status-thunderbird to fixed on bug 955324. 19:22:01 <instantbot> rkent@caspia.com set status-thunderbird to fixed on bug 955324. 19:22:02 <instantbot> rkent@caspia.com set status-thunderbird to fixed on bug 955324. 19:22:03 * instantbot was going to say 'rkent@caspia.com set status-thunderbird to fixed on bug 955324.' but has said it too many times today already 19:22:04 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=955324 min, --, Instantbird 48, arlolra, RESO FIXED, Starting/stopping to follow someone doesn't update the participant list of the timeline 19:28:31 <clokep_work> Heh. 19:29:23 <aleth> arlolra really fixed that bug :D 19:43:05 <-- abdelrhman has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 19:45:03 --> abdelrhman has joined #instantbird 19:46:54 <instantbot> New Chat Core - General bug 1257299 filed by arai.unmht@gmail.com. 19:46:55 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1257299 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Use AppInfo.jsm instead of appInfoUtils.jsm. 19:49:47 <clokep_work> Meh. 19:51:05 --> EionRobb has joined #instantbird 19:55:56 --> unghost has joined #instantbird 20:11:59 <-- abdelrhman has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 20:19:45 --> abdelrhman has joined #instantbird 20:41:55 --> fredy has joined #instantbird 20:47:40 --> Morian has joined #instantbird 21:06:24 <durwasa> for Bug 954368 can anyone review this one please https://pastebin.mozilla.org/8863940 21:06:26 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=954368 nor, --, ---, durwasa.chakraborty, ASSI, em and pt usage in CSS causes size/alignment errors for certain font sizes and DPI settings 21:07:45 <clokep_work> durwasa: You likely want to attach a patch there... 21:08:15 <durwasa> too much diff ? 21:12:16 <-- durwasa has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 21:15:01 <clokep_work> What? 21:17:41 --> durwasa has joined #instantbird 21:18:29 --> CuriousLearner has joined #instantbird 21:18:54 --> nhnt11 has joined #instantbird 21:18:54 * ChanServ sets mode +h nhnt11 21:19:34 <nhnt11> FYI I un-bitrotted indexed logs yetserday 21:19:36 <nhnt11> yesterday* 21:19:45 <nhnt11> I haven't attached a new patch because I saw a few things I'd like to change 21:20:04 <nhnt11> Sorry for taking so long 21:27:40 <-- CuriousLearner has quit (Connection closed) 21:28:32 --> Mnyromyr has joined #instantbird 21:31:30 <-- Mnyromyr has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [SeaMonkey 2.39/20151103174305]) 21:35:39 <-- abdelrhman has quit (Connection closed) 21:35:47 --> abdelrhman has joined #instantbird 21:39:03 <flo-retina> nhnt11: if looking at the interdiff of the things you would like to change could make the review easier, you may want to attach now without requesting review, and attach again and request review once you are satisfied 21:43:08 <-- abdelrhman has quit (Connection closed) 21:43:13 --> abdelrhman has joined #instantbird 21:46:59 <nhnt11> okay, WFM. 21:53:44 <clokep_work> nhnt11: AWESEOM. 21:53:49 <clokep_work> You see that bug I filed earlier on the awesometab? 21:54:26 <nhnt11> clokep_work: I did. 21:54:43 <nhnt11> I have slowly accumulated a bunch of awesometab improvement ideas in the back of my head 21:54:53 <nhnt11> One day I will start filing bugs and fixing things 21:54:57 <nhnt11> (soon, I hope) 21:55:11 <nhnt11> once I get indexed logs off of my conscience... :P 21:59:17 <nhnt11> bah, the logs are long during the GSoC months ;) 22:00:30 <clokep_work> :-D 22:02:10 <clokep_work> Anyone have time to look at bug 1257299 on my behalf? 22:02:13 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1257299 nor, --, ---, arai.unmht, NEW, Use AppInfo.jsm instead of appInfoUtils.jsm. 22:03:17 <-- freaktechnik has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 22:04:23 * nhnt11 looked at it bug doesn't have enough context to do a review (no idea what this XULAppInfo thing is) 22:04:26 <nhnt11> s/bug/but 22:05:31 --> freaktechnik has joined #instantbird 22:21:44 <-- abdelrhman has quit (Connection closed) 22:46:14 <-- Bollebib has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 22:52:33 <-- durwasa has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 23:02:39 --> EionRobb1 has joined #instantbird 23:04:53 <-- EionRobb has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 23:06:32 --> chrisccoulson_ has joined #instantbird 23:06:36 <-- chrisccoulson_ has quit (Connection closed) 23:07:14 <-- unghost has quit (A TLS packet with unexpected length was received.) 23:16:40 <-- arlolra has quit (Client exited) 23:59:41 --> Anupkumar has joined #instantbird