#instantbird log on 01 29 2016

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04:57:44 <instant-buildbot> build #3055 of macosx-nightly-default is complete: Success [3build successful]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/macosx-nightly-default/builds/3055
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05:27:25 <instant-buildbot> build #587 of linux64-nightly-default is complete: Success [3build successful]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/linux64-nightly-default/builds/587
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09:02:33 <mpmc> Wow, using ALSA on Linux (Pulseaudio has problems) I get no sound from IB if I'm using another app that outputs audio (e.g. VLC). if I close the offending app, all audio output from IB gets played at once! This appears to be a IB problem as other apps have no issues with ALSAs software mixer..
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14:09:29 <clokep_work> FYI I posted on the Instantbird Facebook group about the Facebook Chat stuff.
14:21:08 <aleth> clokep_work: just noticed the blog post doesn't seem to show up on http://instantbird.com/
14:21:39 <clokep_work> aleth: Weird, it's in the RSS feed. (I got it on PMO yesterday.)
14:22:08 <aleth> In fact the last two posts are missing
14:25:26 <clokep_work> I don't know how that pulls from RSS?
14:25:30 <clokep_work> Maybe a cron stopped running? flo-retina?
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17:15:25 <flo-retina> it's possible a cron has stopped running... or more likely isn't running on the server that the DNS currently point to
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21:40:52 <nhnt11> flo-retina: Here's firefox's edit menu xul code: https://dxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/browser/base/content/browser-menubar.inc#146
21:41:10 <nhnt11> You'll see there's no emoji and symbols item
21:41:25 <nhnt11> That was as far as I got in the 15 minutes that I tried
21:41:30 <flo-retina> now you are getting me curious
21:41:36 <flo-retina> let's see where I get within 15 minutes :)
21:42:04 <nhnt11> Seems to be some OS X hackery that I never took the time to find
21:42:18 <nhnt11> Btw, I also did bugzilla searches in hope of finding a bug that enabled this, or something like that
21:42:24 <nhnt11> iirc, at least
21:42:30 <nhnt11> I did not find anything useful
21:43:19 <nhnt11> flo-retina: note that the dictation and emoji items in the edit menu are common to all apps with an edit menu
21:43:31 <nhnt11> well, not /all/ apps
21:43:59 <aleth> nhnt11: Look to add the whole Edit menu
21:44:18 <aleth> Probably in the hiddenWindow.
21:44:28 <freaktechnik> https://dxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/toolkit/content/editMenuOverlay.xul
21:44:59 <flo-retina> http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/widget/cocoa/nsMenuBarX.mm doesn't seem to have any magic related to the Edit menu :-S
21:45:59 <flo-retina> nhnt11: do you know if it works for Thunderbird?
21:46:09 <nhnt11> flo-retina: no idea
21:46:31 <aleth> nhnt11: try adding https://dxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/browser/base/content/browser.xul#17 to instantbird.xul
21:47:00 <nhnt11> aleth: "Look to add the whole Edit menu" do you suspect that OS X does some magic on its own if the app has an edit menu?
21:47:01 <flo-retina> I wonder if http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/browser/app/macbuild/Contents/Info.plist.in has anything interesting
21:47:05 <aleth> nhnt11: yes
21:47:13 <nhnt11> I had that thought too
21:47:14 <aleth> just a guess though ;)
21:47:23 <nhnt11> But I haven't tested it
21:51:22 <flo-retina> seems worth trying
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23:37:38 <clokep_work> nhnt11, flo-retina: Thunderbird has an edit menu, not emojii though.
23:37:48 <nhnt11> clokep_work: thanks!
23:39:55 <clokep_work> No problem. :)
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23:46:24 <aleth> clokep_work, nhnt11: actually that's not right, for me the emoticon panel shows up in TB
23:46:39 <nhnt11> but is it in the edit menu?
23:46:55 <aleth> No, but it never is, right?
23:47:01 <clokep_work> aleth, nhnt11: Ah, it is there
23:47:04 <aleth> TB has an Edit menu though
23:47:08 <nhnt11> what?
23:47:13 <nhnt11> "it never is"?
23:47:18 <aleth> ah, it is there, at the bottom
23:47:20 <aleth> missed that
23:47:27 <nhnt11> ah, well there you go
23:47:37 <nhnt11> I'll try adding an edit menu to Ib at some point
23:47:54 <nhnt11> clokep_work: y u lie to us
23:47:57 <aleth> Hopefully just a few lines needed
23:47:58 <clokep_work> Yep at the bottom.
23:48:09 <clokep_work> nhnt11: Because the who puts things at the bottom! :P
23:48:24 <nhnt11> well there has to be SOMETHING at the bottom
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23:49:00 <aleth> I mean, emoji has nothing to do with that...
23:49:07 <clokep_work> Yep, me to.
23:49:30 <nhnt11> aleth: Thunderbird's edit menu does not have emoji for me
23:49:37 <nhnt11> oh wow, now it does
23:49:38 <nhnt11> wtf
23:49:50 <freaktechnik> it only does once you looked for it.
23:49:52 <freaktechnik> that's true magic
23:50:07 <nhnt11> no, it's weird
23:50:19 <nhnt11> so when you've focused something that isn't a textbox, there's no emoji in the menu
23:50:22 <aleth> well, you have to be in an editbox
23:50:26 <nhnt11> when you focus a textbox, there's still no emoji
23:50:34 <nhnt11> then if I switch to a different app and switch back, boom, it's there
23:50:41 <nhnt11> seems like the menu has to be "rebuilt"
23:50:50 <nhnt11> Definitely sounds like OS X is doing some magic
23:51:25 <freaktechnik> since there's nothing about it in m-c that'd explain it...
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