#instantbird log on 01 27 2016

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00:17:34 <flo-retina> clokep_work: there's no question on your needinfo
00:17:48 <clokep_work> flo-retina: Seriously?
00:17:58 <clokep_work> It's asking for a decision about what we should do.
00:18:19 <flo-retina> yeah, sounds like that decision stinks so you want me to own it ;)
00:18:34 <clokep_work> More of "I don't understand l10n well enough" :P
00:19:05 <flo-retina> you understand it enough to know it's screwed in this case :)
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00:26:56 <clokep_work> Thanks. :)
00:40:31 <flo-retina> freaktechnik: so I assume you are more interested in highlevel feedback than in a code review, right?
00:40:58 <flo-retina> (obviously, it's easier to do nit picking than to see the highlevel stuff at first when looking at the patch...)
00:41:06 <freaktechnik> for now yes, unless you think the patch is already ready to be landed with a little nit-picking.
00:41:55 <flo-retina> well... I could be convinced to r+ a patch using the same approach with just nits fixed. But I think we can probably do slightly better.
00:42:22 <freaktechnik> But take your time, think about it for a little, if you want to. I don't think a few days (you choose what "few is") matter ;)
00:43:08 <flo-retina> well, it would be nice to finish it before you lose whatever remains of the motivation you had when you initially attached it (sorry for not getting to it faster)
00:43:22 <freaktechnik> I'm not loosing the motivation, no worries
00:43:37 <freaktechnik> I've had pull requests open for over a year, this is still pretty fast ;)
00:43:45 <flo-retina> :)
00:43:55 <flo-retina> I usually try to get all reviews done within 24h
00:44:13 <flo-retina> but unfortunately these days that seems to only apply to browser/ and toolkit/ patches :(
00:45:02 <flo-retina> for the Instantbird patches, I still get reviews done quickly if the patch looks like it can be reviewed within 5 minutes (which usually means it'll actually take 20 minutes to review it ;))
00:45:23 <flo-retina> but when it's something that requires focusing on it for a while, it's getting harder to find large blocks of quality time
00:50:00 <freaktechnik>  yeah, especially since it's probably code that you're not necessarily "living in", which makes it take longer
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01:19:05 <flo-retina> freaktechnik: you could be surprised by how much I still remember about this code
01:19:25 <flo-retina> eg. in which room I was and which month of the year it was when I coded which piece ;).
01:22:39 <freaktechnik> that kind of memory is fun. It's like when you're writing a test and know where in the book the answer is, but don't remember the answer.
01:23:23 <flo-retina> yeah
01:25:16 <nhnt11> that's the worst kind of test :(
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01:28:20 <flo-retina> tests with all books and documents allowed are better :)
01:28:38 <flo-retina> gives an advantage to people who actually studied and have this kind of visual/spatial memory :)
01:30:21 <nhnt11> I've had "open laptop" tests ;)
01:30:33 <flo-retina> with internet access?
01:30:36 <nhnt11> Those are usually very challenging and not based on memorizing facts
01:30:52 <freaktechnik> more one "how good are you at reading documentation/reference material"?
01:30:54 <nhnt11> I think I've had a couple with internet access but usually they say "turn off your wifi"
01:31:34 <freaktechnik> "bluetooth mesh networks with phones and other students are allowed"
01:31:35 <abdelrhman> :-)
01:31:42 <freaktechnik> :P
01:31:56 <nhnt11> That seems flawed, but people actually do turn it off because if you get caught, the consequences are nasty
01:32:28 <flo-retina> internet access gives the interesting possibility of outsourcing the work to an army of friends working on each part of the test in parallel ;)
01:32:50 <abdelrhman> This week I had a "open reference" test :-)
01:32:56 <nhnt11> yeah, blocking comms is the main reason for not allowing internet
01:33:22 <freaktechnik> they don't even let me wear my watch at exams these days ;)
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01:36:37 <abdelrhman> nhnt11: I think tests like that are more related to designing
01:37:02 <nhnt11> abdelrhman: designing what?
01:37:26 <nhnt11> I majored in electronics, these open laptop tests were mainly in courses where we were asked to design circuits
01:37:51 <nhnt11> BUT these circuit designs are usually available on the web
01:37:55 <abdelrhman> Yeah, I meant that.
01:37:56 <nhnt11> i.e. it's not "creative" design
01:38:02 <nhnt11> ok :)
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04:51:07 <instant-buildbot> build #585 of linux64-nightly-default is complete: Failure [4failed compile]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/linux64-nightly-default/builds/585
04:55:19 <instant-buildbot> build #3053 of macosx-nightly-default is complete: Success [3build successful]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/macosx-nightly-default/builds/3053
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14:41:04 <clokep_work> aleth: Any thoughts on bug 954463?
14:41:06 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=954463 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Autosetting User Mode in IRC
14:41:21 <clokep_work> Like...thoughts on how to add that as an option?
14:41:50 <clokep_work> Should be easy to just add as an account option, do we think it shold be hidden?
14:45:08 <aleth> Very few people seem to ask for it, so a pref is probably OK for now?
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14:45:36 <clokep_work> I find the support costs of adding those annoying, but no one seems to ask for it, so yeah...
14:45:38 <freaktechnik> it's probably only relevant for people who are on irc servers without chanserv or equivalent
14:46:19 <aleth> I wouldn't mind adding it to the advanced options, but really the one to add there is the server password :-/
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17:19:44 * clokep_work wonders what freaktechnik is getting a degree in.
17:22:51 <freaktechnik> clokep: I started with electronical engineering but switched to "just" cs now.
17:23:03 <freaktechnik> Batchelor of Science that is.
17:23:56 <freaktechnik> -t
17:24:20 <clokep_work> Nice. :)
17:24:29 <clokep_work> I have a couple of EE degrees...that I don't use much of now. ;)
17:28:07 <freaktechnik> Huh, I don't even have the info that I'm student on mozillians. I think because I was trying to dodge getting recruited for moz student ambassadors at the time ;)
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