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03:34:19 <Mook> Hmm, I guess xmpp-xml has no way of calling getChildren based on both xmlns and local name.
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07:57:13 <flo-retina> bah, I wanted to RT clokep's tweet about IRC clients, but I can't due to the context menu being broken because of search :(
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10:23:33 <flo-retina> ah, actually I can retweet, but only if I deselect the text first
10:23:48 <flo-retina> and I didn't think of it because I hadn't selected the text, it had been auto-selected by the findbar
10:25:09 <flo-retina> aleth: so... if I install new Linux slaves using tooltool, will they still be able to compile Ib 42?
10:25:15 <flo-retina> or are we giving up and releasing off 44 ?
10:25:25 <flo-retina> (or 43)
10:26:10 <aleth> I don't think 42 is realistic at this point. 43 maybe?
10:26:32 <aleth> How would tooltool be a problem, when mozilla's buildbots can still build esr38 with it?
10:27:00 <flo-retina> aleth: well, we would need to go back and include manifests in im/ in old branches then
10:27:10 <aleth> nasty surprises always a possibility
10:27:18 <flo-retina> aleth: I guess what I'm really wondering is if I should install the old gcc in new slaves, or just let tooltool take care of it
10:27:28 <aleth> flo-retina: we're going to have to uplift a lot of stuff anyway
10:28:03 <aleth> no reason not to, anyway
10:28:20 <flo-retina> no reason not to what?
10:28:30 <aleth> ship bugfixes that landed since 42?
10:28:42 <flo-retina> well, uplifting is a pain
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11:09:11 <aleth> Anyone feel like retriggering the OSX nightly?
11:09:47 <flo-retina> looks like you do
11:10:04 <flo-retina> aleth: do you have an existing password somewhere for an hg.instantbird.org repo?
11:10:07 <aleth> Should hopefully package/fail differently now
11:10:08 <aleth> No
11:10:13 <flo-retina> really?
11:10:28 <aleth> I never checked anything into hg.instantbird.org
11:10:37 <flo-retina> bah
11:11:17 <clokep_work> aleth: I can do it.
11:11:32 <flo-retina> aleth needs access
11:12:59 <flo-retina> I can't figure out the right command line for htpasswd :(
11:13:38 <flo-retina> ah!
11:13:42 <flo-retina> aleth: run $ htpasswd -n aleth
11:13:54 <flo-retina> and msg me the output please
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11:50:05 <clokep_work> " A build was forced by '': force build " :-D
11:50:08 <clokep_work> I suspect that was aleth.
11:52:07 <aleth> not sure where the '":force build' came from, I just clicked the button
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11:55:17 <clokep_work> aleth: On the build page it says why the build was ran.
11:55:24 <clokep_work> I think that usually shows the person's name (clokep for me)
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11:58:29 <flo-retina> clokep_work: only if you type it.
11:58:36 <flo-retina> clokep_work: I never enter anything in the form :-]
11:58:59 <flo-retina> the login isn't with buildbot, it's just an htaccess restriction with apache
12:00:13 <clokep_work> Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.
12:00:16 <clokep_work> My bad. :)
12:00:25 <clokep_work> I always try to fill out tha form. :P
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12:04:55 <clokep_work> aleth, flo-retina: BTW it does feel late to release on 42 at this point.
12:05:04 <clokep_work> So we should probably target 44. As much as it pains me to admit that.
12:06:05 <aleth> Really that decision is just an aspiration until the build infra is set up.
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12:10:17 * clokep_work hopes we have more RAM today. :-D
12:11:44 <clokep_work> aleth: I know you've been tracking bustages closer than me...if the Windows builder is online, would it likely build?
12:12:07 <aleth> One would hope so based on TB, but it's been a while.
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12:13:07 <aleth> Btw is all that Windows 10 stuff ported by Paneglab or will you have to copy it across for IB?
12:13:39 <clokep_work> Those were to mail/ files.
12:13:53 <clokep_work> I don't usually touch IB theme stuff. :-\
12:14:07 <aleth> You're the only one on Windows tho ;)
12:14:30 <aleth> I just asked you as you were reviewing all those patches and I wasn't following them
12:15:16 <clokep_work> Yep.
12:15:19 <clokep_work> I know. :(
12:15:32 <aleth> Hopefully stuff just needs copypasting 
12:15:38 <clokep_work> I'm also probably the one with the worst eye for pretty UI. ;)
12:15:51 <clokep_work> The other issue is that a lot of our code is very out of sync with Firefox at this point.
12:16:17 <aleth> True, if it's Australis specific it could be messy
12:16:36 <aleth> Wasn't nhnt11 going to port that? ;)
12:16:44 <aleth> ah, he's gone again
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12:17:54 <nhnt11> aleth: :(
12:18:16 <aleth> nhnt11: just kidding
12:26:53 <clokep_work> aleth: Not sure if you say http://log.bezut.info/instantbird/150924/#m20 / have an answer for it
12:27:01 <clokep_work> (And apparently Not Today! still works...)
12:27:47 <aleth> It's true. Mook could either improve xmpp-xml or .filter the result of getChildren
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12:30:30 * aleth hopes all that Hipchat work is going to be a patch at some point...
12:31:11 <instant-buildbot> build #2913 of macosx-nightly-default is complete: Failure [4failed shell_5]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/macosx-nightly-default/builds/2913
12:31:33 <aleth> :-(
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12:44:56 <flo-retina> aleth: so what's up with mac?
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12:50:40 <aleth> flo-retina: naive fix was too naive 
12:51:36 <clokep_work> less-naive fix necessary
12:53:12 <aleth> flo-retina: m-c broke 'make xpcshell-tests'
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13:14:44 <clokep_work> aleth, flo-retina: How hard would it be to switch things to mach?
13:14:49 <clokep_work> Assuming that fixes it.
13:15:09 <flo-retina> I don't know
13:15:27 <flo-retina> I guess we could replace the current hacks with ./mach test chat ; ./mach test im
13:15:40 <flo-retina> (I don't know if we actually have tests inside im/)
13:17:26 <clokep_work> Hm...Idk.
13:17:29 <clokep_work> I thought we had like 1.
13:17:51 <clokep_work> https://dxr.mozilla.org/comm-central/source/im/test/xpcshell.ini
13:17:58 <clokep_work> I was thinking of the libpurple one which we no longer run.
13:18:41 <flo-retina> ah
13:18:49 * flo-retina didn't know we were no longer running them
13:22:44 <clokep_work> We stopped when we made it an extension, I think.
13:22:51 <clokep_work> Cause there was no way to 'ifdef' that.
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13:24:21 <flo-retina> that doesn't seem a great reason
13:24:26 <flo-retina> but maybe there were complicated details involved
13:24:59 <clokep_work> I'm sure we planned to re-enable it. :)
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16:49:13 <aleth> clokep: bug 955075
16:49:15 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=955075 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, socket.jsm based protocols should connect through HTTP proxies
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17:27:02 <clokep_work> aleth, flo-retina: Any thoughts onw hat features we've added that are better than libpurple?
17:27:08 <clokep_work> Less noise from NickServ/MOTD stuff.
17:27:14 <clokep_work> Better support for presence....
17:28:04 <flo-retina> whois on hover?
17:29:01 <flo-retina> nick recovery?
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17:29:19 <flo-retina> auto-list?
17:29:38 <clokep_work> Auto-list?
17:29:45 <clokep_work> Oh. Right, for the awesometab.
17:29:50 <flo-retina> the awesometab completes channel without you explicitly LISTing
17:30:21 <aleth> the whole auth story
17:30:46 <flo-retina> I'm not sure bouncer users would unanimously agree that we are doing better there though :-/
17:31:09 <clokep_work> We fixed ZNC again...
17:31:33 <aleth> Not sure libpurple has watch/monitor
17:31:35 <flo-retina> channels on hold?
17:36:03 <clokep_work> Hah, I think that's enogh. Thanks!
17:36:33 <Mook_as> aleth: Yeah, I'm poking XMLNode right now; once things are in a better state I hope to upstream things (which also means reformatting my code for IB style :p )
17:36:49 <Mook_as> And that does involve all the HipChat thigs. (But I broke login last night, oops)
17:37:57 <aleth> Mook_as: great, thanks! (There's a bunch of legacy code in js-xmpp that is gradually being improved/needs tlc, as you will have noticed)
17:38:11 * clokep_work debates whether we would want hipChat built in.
17:38:52 <aleth> How popular is it?
17:40:29 <clokep_work> Pretty popular.
17:42:51 <Mook_as> I'd only want to look at that after I've got file attachments and correct mentions in. Don't think I'll try for video chat.
17:43:31 * clokep_work laughs an attachment called "Theoretical patch" on bug 955075
17:43:33 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=955075 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, socket.jsm based protocols should connect through HTTP proxies
17:43:37 <clokep_work> Mook_as: Is the video WebRTC? ;)
17:43:45 <clokep_work> If so...that would be super easy if we ever landed our code for that.
17:44:12 <Mook_as> No idea, haven't thought about it yet.
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22:55:37 <aleth> flo-retina: bug 1208184
22:55:40 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1208184 nor, --, ---, hskupin, ASSI, Make download of tooltool.py customizable via a config setting
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