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This seems to trigger downloading the vcard if we're subscribed to their presence. 04:41:37 <Mook> ... this server seems to be kicking me off since that means I just requested the vCard of >1000 people. 04:42:41 --> Bollebib has joined #instantbird 04:45:56 <Mook> On the upside: stubbing out _requestVCard() fixes the problem, so that _was_ the issue. 04:52:58 <-- Suiseiseki has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 05:05:38 <Mook> And since I'm here, I don't think that code handles this vCard photo correctly: <PHOTO xmlns="vcard-temp">https://www.hipchat.com/img/silhouette_125.png</PHOTO> (I should probably file a bug on that one?) 05:08:26 --> Suiseiseki has joined #instantbird 05:25:50 --> afiksof has joined #instantbird 05:37:52 <instant-buildbot> build #432 of linux64-nightly-default is complete: Failure [4failed compile] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/linux64-nightly-default/builds/432 05:45:43 --> afiksof1 has joined #instantbird 05:48:06 <-- afiksof has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 05:48:06 * afiksof1 is now known as afiksof 06:01:35 <-- Mook has quit (Client exited) 06:56:52 <-- afiksof has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 07:07:36 --> afiksof has joined #instantbird 07:08:20 --> mpmc has joined #instantbird 07:16:35 <-- afiksof has quit (Connection closed) 07:18:05 --> afiksof has joined #instantbird 07:42:29 <-- afiksof has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 07:47:30 --> gerard-majax has joined #instantbird 08:00:45 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 08:00:45 * ChanServ sets mode +o aleth 08:01:40 <-- gerard-majax has quit (Quit: Leaving) 08:01:45 --> gerard-majax has joined #instantbird 08:08:49 --> afiksof has joined #instantbird 08:11:31 <-- gerard-majax has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 08:15:30 --> gerard-majax has joined #instantbird 08:15:49 <-- gerard-majax has quit (Connection closed) 08:16:00 --> gerard-majax has joined #instantbird 08:20:35 <-- mpmc has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.6a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 08:24:48 <-- gerard-majax has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 08:27:03 --> gerard-majax has joined #instantbird 08:28:19 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: :tiuQ) 08:28:25 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 08:28:25 * ChanServ sets mode +o aleth 08:36:50 <-- gerard-majax has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 08:43:55 --> gerard-majax has joined #instantbird 08:57:16 <-- gerard-majax has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 09:14:32 <-- nhnt11 has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 09:16:14 --> nhnt11 has joined #instantbird 09:16:14 * ChanServ sets mode +h nhnt11 09:34:56 <-- Alex1 has quit (Connection closed) 09:36:20 --> gerard-majax has joined #instantbird 09:43:18 <-- gerard-majax has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 09:55:34 --> flo-retina has joined #instantbird 09:55:34 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo-retina flo-retina 09:55:54 --> gerard-majax has joined #instantbird 10:09:40 <-- BWMerlin has quit (Client exited) 10:09:58 --> BWMerlin has joined #instantbird 10:23:27 <-- nhnt11 has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 10:29:47 <-- Bollebib has quit (Connection closed) 10:34:04 <-- freaktechnik has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 10:35:16 --> freaktechnik has joined #instantbird 10:36:40 --> Bollebib has joined #instantbird 10:45:04 --> bittin has joined #instantbird 10:56:46 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 10:56:46 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep 10:57:18 <-- bittin has quit (Connection closed) 11:21:54 <-- afiksof has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 11:24:04 <-- clokep has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.6a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 11:24:11 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 11:24:11 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep 11:26:14 <clokep> aleth: You see Mook's messages? 11:38:09 * aleth scrolls 11:38:28 <aleth> Ah, in the logs. 11:39:11 <aleth> That sounds like a bug that needs filing! 11:39:38 --> nhnt11 has joined #instantbird 11:39:38 * ChanServ sets mode +h nhnt11 11:39:44 <aleth> There's also some XEP that's not implemented yet that's supposed to reduce the number of vcard fetches etc 11:40:00 <clokep> How so? 11:40:09 <clokep> How does it reduce it if you have 1000 contacts? 11:41:13 * clokep wonders how Mook plans to deal w/ 1000 contacts on his buddy list. :-D 11:42:11 <aleth> It's not about the initial fetch, that's separate issue, it's about updates to the info 11:45:30 <clokep> Hm. OK. 11:48:01 <aleth> Ah, I misremembered slightly, that one is to prevent service discovery flooding, not vcard flooding 11:48:10 <aleth> xep-0115 11:52:39 <clokep> Ah. 11:52:45 <clokep> Well sounds like he found two different issues thoguh. 11:55:53 <aleth> Sure, he should be filing bugs for all of them ;) 11:56:23 <aleth> There's a reason JS-XMPP is not pref'd on yet 12:02:49 <-- nhnt11 has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 12:09:38 --> nhnt11 has joined #instantbird 12:09:39 * ChanServ sets mode +h nhnt11 12:23:18 --> nhnt12 has joined #instantbird 12:23:18 <-- nhnt11 has quit (Connection closed) 12:23:19 * ChanServ sets mode +h nhnt12 12:23:19 * nhnt12 is now known as nhnt11 12:26:08 <-- clokep has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 12:58:21 <-- nhnt11 has quit (Connection closed) 12:59:20 --> clokep_work has joined #instantbird 12:59:20 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep_work 13:05:19 --> nhnt11 has joined #instantbird 13:05:20 * ChanServ sets mode +h nhnt11 13:09:28 <-- nhnt11 has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 13:12:23 --> mpmc has joined #instantbird 13:42:12 --> abdelrhman has joined #instantbird 13:43:57 <abdelrhman> Do we have SRS/SDS for IB? 13:52:54 <-- abdelrhman has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 13:53:16 --> abdelrhman has joined #instantbird 13:57:57 --> afiksof has joined #instantbird 14:02:14 <clokep_work> abdelrhman: What are those? 14:02:18 <clokep_work> I'm unfamilar with those abbrevations. 14:03:30 --> afiksof1 has joined #instantbird 14:05:41 --> venom00ut has joined #instantbird 14:05:53 <abdelrhman> Software Requirements Specification and Software Design Specification documents 14:06:01 <abdelrhman> (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_requirements_specification) 14:06:05 <-- afiksof has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 14:06:07 <-- afiksof1 has quit (Connection closed) 14:06:08 <venom00ut> hi, is there a plan for supporting the new MQTT Facebook protocol? 14:06:36 <clokep_work> venom00ut: Is it documented somewhere? ;) 14:06:45 <clokep_work> I played with it a bit and was unable to get a connection to it to work. 14:06:52 <clokep_work> abdelrhman: No. 14:07:27 <clokep_work> abdelrhman: I can't say I've ever felt a need to do it. 14:07:34 <clokep_work> to have one. 14:07:36 <clokep_work> Why do you ask? 14:07:36 <venom00ut> clokep_work, there's a working purple plugin, so yeah :) 14:07:46 <clokep_work> venom00ut: That's not documentation. 14:07:54 <clokep_work> I think that's EionRobb's code, right? 14:07:59 <clokep_work> That was the code I was basing mine on. 14:08:02 --> afiksof has joined #instantbird 14:08:18 <venom00ut> clokep_work, was the MSN protocol documented? :P 14:08:39 <clokep_work> venom00ut: No, I'm just saying it wasn't an answer to my question. 14:08:53 <clokep_work> The major problem I've had is finding a reasonable MQTT library for JavaScript. 14:09:03 <clokep_work> And finding basic information, like what's the damn endpoint and port to connect to. 14:09:10 <clokep_work> Which code are you talking about again? 14:09:21 <clokep_work> If it's the same one I was looking at...it's a maze of references that's super hard to follow. 14:10:24 --> nhnt11 has joined #instantbird 14:10:24 * ChanServ sets mode +h nhnt11 14:10:28 <clokep_work> venom00ut: You interested in helping make one? ;) 14:10:36 <clokep_work> (FWIW I got demotivated when Facebook continued to work for me. :)) 14:11:50 <venom00ut> https://github.com/jgeboski/purple-facebook 14:12:07 <venom00ut> clokep_work, with xmpp? it doesn't work for me 14:12:24 <clokep_work> venom00ut: Oh is that the one from the GSoC? 14:12:35 <venom00ut> clokep_work, idk, I should try instanbird a bit more before commit in such an effort :P 14:12:35 <clokep_work> I don't think it uses MQTT, I think it uses reverse engineering of the HTTP API. 14:12:48 <clokep_work> :) 14:13:01 <venom00ut> clokep_work, no it uses MQTT, but the source is somewhere else, in that repo there are patches for some other code I still have to find 14:13:04 <clokep_work> venom00ut: Yeah over XMPP it still works. Seems to depend on the person. (Of course now that I've said that..it'll stop working today.) 14:13:10 --> nhnt12 has joined #instantbird 14:13:10 * ChanServ sets mode +h nhnt12 14:14:05 <venom00ut> https://github.com/jgeboski/bitlbee-facebook 14:14:13 <clokep_work> venom00ut: Ah cool! Frankly I stopped following that project because I assumed it was using the HTTP stuff. 14:14:27 <-- nhnt11 has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 14:14:27 * nhnt12 is now known as nhnt11 14:14:30 <clokep_work> venom00ut: Ah! That's the code I had found that's ridiculously convoluted. 14:14:33 <clokep_work> Without any comments. 14:15:10 <venom00ut> yeah, better than nothing :P 14:16:00 <clokep_work> venom00ut: How long have you been using Instantbird? 14:16:10 <clokep_work> venom00ut: So yeah it's something I'm interested in doing...but time...and such. 14:16:30 <venom00ut> clokep_work, I think I didn't manage to build it last time I tried 14:16:42 <clokep_work> Why are you trying to build it yourself? 14:16:51 <venom00ut> because I'm a gentoo user :P 14:17:54 <clokep_work> Ah. :) 14:17:57 <clokep_work> Well...yeah... 14:18:02 <clokep_work> Good luck. ;) 14:19:15 <clokep_work> venom00ut: If you have questions, feel free to ask. 14:19:33 <clokep_work> (Of course you could compile the libpurple prpl too, but I think...that's only libpurple 3) 14:20:11 <venom00ut> if I wanted to use purple I'd stay with pidgin :P 14:20:27 <clokep_work> :) 14:20:31 <abdelrhman> If there are any spec for FB MQTT. I'll devote my time to finish it for IB ;) 14:20:41 <clokep_work> abdelrhman: There's nothing. :-\ 14:20:45 <clokep_work> I wonder where my patch is for that... 14:21:05 <venom00ut> MQTT is a a standard protocol, not sure how different the facebook implementation is different from the standard 14:21:11 <abdelrhman> Whenever there are .. 14:21:54 <abdelrhman> venom00ut: it may be slightly different, but sure not totally. 14:23:25 <clokep_work> venom00ut: Standard doesn't mean trivial to implement though. :-\ And I haven't foudn good libraries in JavaScript. I looked like 8 months ago though? SO you're definitely right -- I should look again. 14:24:08 <venom00ut> I think MQTT is a pretty simple protocol, it's designed for small devices, but didn't look into it 14:25:37 <venom00ut> https://www.npmjs.com/package/mqtt first google result :P 14:27:35 <clokep_work> venom00ut: IIRC that library looks terrible. 14:27:47 <clokep_work> venom00ut: And *finding* something doesn't mean it will work well. ;) 14:28:06 <clokep_work> Yes, it's designed for small devices. It has some weird pub/sub thing IIRC. I'll probably end up writing my own. 14:28:07 * clokep_work sighs. 14:29:02 <clokep_work> venom00ut: So I think the *weird* thing that Facebook does is tunnel MQTT over WebSocket? 14:29:08 <clokep_work> I think that's what I got stuck w/. 14:30:57 <-- Bollebib has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 14:32:13 --> Bollebib has joined #instantbird 14:32:27 <venom00ut> clokep_work, the bitlbee doesn't seem to have anything to do with websockets, it just opens a SSL connection on mqtt.facebook.com:443 14:34:54 <venom00ut> clokep_work, it doesn't look very very bad: https://github.com/jgeboski/bitlbee-facebook/blob/master/facebook/facebook-mqtt.c 14:35:45 * clokep_work hates gtk code. 14:36:18 <clokep_work> venom00ut: Yeah I couldn't get it to respond to me. I'm sure I'm doing something wrong. :) I likely need to insert wireshark in the middle. 14:36:40 <venom00ut> wireshark and SSL don't get along very well together usually :D 14:36:51 <clokep_work> I know. :( 14:36:56 <clokep_work> That's what MITM proxies are for. 14:38:32 <-- chrisccoulson has quit (Quit: OSError: [Errno 130] Owner died) 14:38:34 --> chrisccoulson has joined #instantbird 14:39:44 <-- abdelrhman has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 14:43:33 <-- Bollebib has quit (Connection closed) 14:50:55 <clokep_work> venom00ut: Thanks for the links though. Please let me know if you are interested in helping out! I definitely don't have time for it at the moment. :( 14:51:54 <venom00ut> I want to give a try to instantbird first, now that OTR is supported 14:52:22 <clokep_work> Yeah, you need to pull the extension. 14:52:27 * clokep_work sighs. 14:52:32 <clokep_work> The state of Node packages is such a mess. 14:53:07 <-- nhnt11 has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.6a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 14:53:33 <venom00ut> how is the Tor Messanger thing going? 14:54:17 <clokep_work> Not sure, you'd have to ask arlolra. 14:54:24 <clokep_work> Who's not online right now. (He's west coast IIRC) 14:58:41 --> Bollebib has joined #instantbird 15:01:53 <-- afiksof has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.6a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 15:06:17 --> myk has joined #instantbird 15:12:26 <clokep_work> venom00ut: So one of the people in the Pidgin room pointed me to the (probably?) 3 files we'd need to reimplement into JS... 15:12:30 <clokep_work> It doesn't look *so* bad. 15:13:06 <venom00ut> from the bitlbee-facebook repo or what? 15:16:53 <clokep_work> venom00ut: https://hg.pidgin.im/soc/2015/jgeboski/facebook/file/6a0a79182ebc/libpurple/protocols/facebook 15:17:09 <clokep_work> api.c, mqtt.c and thrift.c (I suspect some stuff from util.c/data.c maybe?) 15:17:47 <clokep_work> venom00ut: http://pastebin.instantbird.com/1979253 15:19:54 <clokep_work> Actually http://pastebin.instantbird.com/1979254 has more info. 15:27:07 <venom00ut> cool 15:41:45 <-- gerard-majax has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 15:49:16 <-- myk has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 15:49:17 <clokep_work> So I've decided that my design for our socket API is really wrong. 15:49:23 <clokep_work> But fixing it isn't worth the time. :-\ 15:49:40 <aleth> Ah, like xmpp-xml ;) 15:50:16 <clokep_work> Kind of. 15:50:32 <clokep_work> For more details: we should have a base socket object, then one that does strings, the one that does binary data. 15:50:41 <clokep_work> They shouldn't all be mixed together. It makes the logic too complex. 15:52:39 <flo-retina> heh 15:52:48 <flo-retina> yeah, it's always been kind of a mess :( 15:55:56 --> unghost has joined #instantbird 16:02:20 <-- venom00ut has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 16:11:11 --> myk has joined #instantbird 16:16:10 <-- flo-retina has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.6a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 16:16:32 --> flo-retina has joined #instantbird 16:16:33 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo-retina flo-retina 16:23:39 <aleth> clokep_work: I guess you can feel better now you've heard that all other socket APIs are wrong too ;) 16:24:04 <clokep_work> aleth: Something like that. :-D 16:24:12 <clokep_work> I am happy with the 'evented-ness' of it though. 16:24:14 --> mconley_ has joined #instantbird 16:24:15 <clokep_work> We did a godo job there. 16:24:22 <aleth> Yup. 16:25:09 <aleth> And it's non-blocking. 16:25:11 * mconley_ is now known as mconley|livehacking 16:25:20 --> gerard-majax has joined #instantbird 16:25:57 <aleth> And got pings built in. 16:28:32 --> venom00ut has joined #instantbird 16:31:17 <-- flo-retina has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.6a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 16:34:52 <clokep_work> aleth: Well it could have pings regardless! :P 16:46:03 <-- gerard-majax has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 16:54:34 --> gerard-majax has joined #instantbird 16:58:29 --> flo-retina has joined #instantbird 16:58:29 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo-retina flo-retina 17:08:10 <-- venom00ut has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 17:08:29 <-- Bollebib has quit (Connection closed) 17:11:10 --> venom00ut has joined #instantbird 17:14:21 --> Bollebib has joined #instantbird 17:17:48 <-- gerard-majax has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 17:20:45 --> gerard-majax has joined #instantbird 17:24:38 <-- clokep_work has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 17:40:04 <-- gerard-majax has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 17:41:29 --> gerard-majax has joined #instantbird 17:49:38 <-- venom00ut has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 18:00:24 <-- gerard-majax has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 18:11:37 --> gerard-majax has joined #instantbird 18:33:39 <-- gerard-majax has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 19:22:25 <-- mconley|livehacking has quit (Quit: NO CARRIER) 19:29:47 <-- myk has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.6a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 19:39:08 --> mikk_s has joined #instantbird 19:50:50 --> myk has joined #instantbird 20:01:15 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 20:01:15 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep 20:01:25 <-- clokep has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.6a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 20:01:44 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 20:01:44 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep 20:22:10 <-- mikk_s has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.5 -- http://www.instantbird.com) 20:40:50 --> Mnyromyr has joined #instantbird 20:41:18 --> venom00ut has joined #instantbird 20:41:55 <clokep> aleth: What syntax is that patch you just put up? :-S 20:42:09 <clokep> |delete(key) { return this._map.delete(this._normalize(key)); },| 20:42:13 <clokep> Doesn't that need a : and a function()? 20:42:21 <clokep> Or even a : and a fat arrow? 20:42:25 <aleth> no, not for a while 20:42:30 <clokep> WTF. 20:42:48 <clokep> Why do they keep uselessly changing JS syntax but then take away the *actual* useful things. 20:43:22 <aleth> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript/Reference/Functions/Method_definitions 20:43:59 <aleth> clokep: The method properties are fair enough, what made it ugly is the removal of expression closures 20:46:12 <aleth> I hope you noticed the attachment name, anyway ;) 20:46:19 <aleth> Stupid bug. 20:47:56 <clokep> "patch without class"? :P 20:55:11 --> clokep_work has joined #instantbird 20:55:12 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep_work 20:55:55 <Fallen> wow, people apparently really don't like the word "function" 20:56:54 <clokep> I just find it confusing that there's so many *different* ways to do the same thing. 20:57:09 <Fallen> the shorthand generator is really crazy. Looks almost like a pointer that way 20:58:07 <aleth> What's also fun is that in a class, the individual methods are not separated by commas. But in a prototype (an object) they are. 20:58:38 <clokep> Can we just rewrite all this in Python? :P 20:58:58 <aleth> Fallen: yes, that's funky 20:59:44 <clokep_work> Personally I liked the Symbol iterator thing. 20:59:44 <aleth> "* g(){} will work but g *(){} will not" :P 20:59:47 <clokep_work> I vaguely understand that. 20:59:57 <aleth> Yes, there was a point to that. 21:00:05 <clokep_work> aleth: But does "*g(){}" work too? 21:00:14 <clokep_work> (Aka the old thing of where does the space go for a pointer.) 21:00:18 <aleth> Unifying the zillion different iterators was sensible 21:00:35 <aleth> clokep_work: good question 21:39:31 --> mikk_s has joined #instantbird 22:06:26 <-- Mnyromyr has quit (Connection closed) 22:24:36 <-- Bollebib has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 22:32:46 <-- mikk_s has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.5 -- http://www.instantbird.com) 23:32:51 --> satdav has joined #instantbird 23:48:44 <-- unghost has quit (Quit: Ð£Ñ Ð¾Ð¶Ñ Ñ Ð¾Ñ Ð²Ð°Ñ (xchat 2.4.5 или ÑÑаÑÑе))