#instantbird log on 09 02 2015

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01:08:12 <clokep> instantbot: Good evening!
01:08:13 <instantbot> clokep! dude!
01:08:23 <M-clokep> :)
01:08:43 <clokep> M-clokep: Hello.
01:10:00 <satdav> M-clokep: morning 
01:12:14 <clokep> This thing confuses me.
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02:49:17 <instant-buildbot> build #2872 of macosx-nightly-default is complete: Failure [4failed hg_1]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/macosx-nightly-default/builds/2872
03:01:45 <instant-buildbot> build #1517 of linux-nightly-default is complete: Failure [4failed compile]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/linux-nightly-default/builds/1517
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04:12:24 <instant-buildbot> build #427 of linux64-nightly-default is complete: Failure [4failed compile]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/linux64-nightly-default/builds/427
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08:37:12 <flo-retina> the network on the mac slave really sucks
08:37:23 <flo-retina> just downloading the mozilla-central.hg bundle has been a pain :(
08:37:42 <flo-retina> and typing commands over ssh lags more than when I ssh into an actually remote server :-S
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08:39:58 <aleth> no wonder it keeps failing at the end
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10:01:06 <flo-retina> FYI, I just renewed instantbird.im for another year
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11:18:10 <Matth3w> clokep (IRC): this thing == matrix? :)
11:18:39 <clokep> Matth3w: Yes.
11:18:45 <clokep> How do I change the awful nick it gave me?
11:22:14 <clokep> (As in IRC nick, not Matrix nick. :-D)
11:22:30 <clokep> It *is* neat that it got the history for me though. ;)
11:23:27 <instantbot> New Instantbird - Contacts window bug 1201034 filed by aleth@instantbird.org.
11:23:28 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1201034 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Webcam video in the user icon panel flickers badly
11:24:44 <Matth3w> clokep (IRC): the IRC bridge is a bit clunky atm tbh - to change nicks: https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-appservice-irc/blob/master/HOWTO.md#changing-nicks
11:25:29 <clokep> =-o
11:31:20 <Matth3w> aka "PM the bridge bot to tell it to change your nick on IRC"
11:31:57 <Matth3w> better UX would probably be to try to bluntly bridge the matrix displayname into an IRC nick
11:32:22 <Matth3w> and in the face of collisions or nickserv collisions hunt for alternatives
11:32:26 <Matth3w> but needs more thought.
11:33:12 <clokep> Matth3w: Is @matrix-appservice-irc:matrix.org the right bot name?
11:34:34 <aleth> A prpl could just set a displayname alias
11:35:20 <aleth> But that doesn't help with the server.
11:47:14 <clokep> Right. But I'm talking about how *other* people see me. :)
11:49:51 <aleth> With what client are you connecting?
11:50:30 <clokep> Their web client.
11:56:39 <Matth3w> clokep (IRC): it's @mozilla-irc:matrix.org
11:57:05 <Matth3w> which web client ooi? there's an angular one that sucks and a react one that sucks much less
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11:57:28 <clokep-matrix> They both suck. :)
11:57:32 <clokep-matrix> I was using the "Vector" one.
11:57:40 <Matth3w> i didn't say they didn't ;) just that one sucks less
11:57:41 <clokep-matrix> But right now I'm using the matrix.org/beta one.
11:58:06 <Matth3w> the angular one (matrix.org/beta) is legacy. the react one isn't doing too bad for only being a few weeks old
11:58:15 <Matth3w> obviously neither compare to a real desktop app though :)
11:58:23 * clokep wonders if it's bad that it being React makes him not want to use it. ;)
11:58:29 <clokep> Yep!
11:58:55 <clokep> My major problems so far has been: lack of documentation and too much exposure to the protocol in the UI.
12:02:07 <clokep> (Thanks for the help so far.)
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13:43:05 <Matth3w> personally react has been much less pain than angular. but handcrafted js ftw too :)
13:43:44 <Matth3w> and yes, doc is being fixed up as are the UIs. way too many matrix specific nuts and bolts are visible
13:44:00 <Matth3w> and np; thanks for having a play with it! if only there were a decent desktop client ;)
13:48:05 <clokep_work> Yeah yeah. :P
13:48:16 <clokep_work> I certainly won't have any time to even think about it in the next few weeks.
13:48:19 <clokep_work> Maybe after that.
13:51:23 <Matth3w> :)
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14:54:59 <instant-buildbot> build #2876 of macosx-nightly-default is complete: Failure [4failed shell_5]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/macosx-nightly-default/builds/2876
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14:56:10 <flo-retina> that took a while!
14:56:35 <flo-retina> bah, "make[1]: *** [uploadsymbols] Error 1"
14:56:38 <flo-retina> at least it compiles!
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15:08:52 <clokep_work> :)
15:09:13 <satdav> were can I get the windows 64 bit download for nightly of instant-bird
15:09:13 <clokep_work> Now we just need to fix the other three platforms. :P
15:09:17 * clokep_work wonders if Even is here.
15:09:26 <clokep_work> satdav: We've never done 64-bit builds for Instantbird on Windows.
15:09:33 <clokep_work> (Just use the 32-bit.)
15:09:43 <satdav> clokep_work, cool and it will work on Windows 10
15:10:21 <clokep_work> I use it everyday, yes.
15:10:26 <clokep_work> I haven't tried Instantbird 1.5, only the nightlies.
15:10:56 <satdav> clokep_work, what is the latest nightly for today 
15:11:01 <satdav> and when do they get released 
15:11:27 <clokep_work> There were no nightlies today.
15:11:41 <clokep_work> I think the latest Windows nightly was a couple of weeks ago.
15:12:02 <clokep_work> What do you mean "when do they get released"?
15:12:17 <clokep_work> Nightly builds aren't released, they're uplaoded to the FTP server as soon as they're complete.
15:12:28 <satdav> clokep_work, they should be daily for nightly
15:15:19 <clokep_work> daily, nightly same thing.
15:15:40 <clokep_work> http://ftp.instantbird.com/instantbird/nightly/latest-trunk/
15:15:45 <satdav> cool so it should be out every day
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15:16:01 <clokep_work> (The windows installer is old, but should update OK to a newer version...I think)
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15:20:11 <satdav> flo-retina, is there a meeting for instant bird soon 
15:20:20 <flo-retina> no
15:20:33 <flo-retina> asking questions here is fine at any time :)
15:21:13 <aleth> a ha! double reconnect
15:22:40 * clokep_work hopes aleth had enough debug statements.
15:22:49 <aleth> we'll see
15:22:55 <aleth> I don't have time right now
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22:55:09 <instantbot> New Instantbird - Other bug 1201306 filed by a.ahmed1026@gmail.com.
22:55:10 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1201306 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Update the credits for Instantbird
23:05:26 <abdelrhman> aleth: For bug 1201306, just add name and later will be one patch for all names, or add patch for name?
23:05:28 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1201306 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Update the credits for Instantbird
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