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04:24:42 <instant-buildbot> build #1428 of linux-nightly-default is complete: Success [3build successful]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/linux-nightly-default/builds/1428
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08:10:39 <Yoric> It is a credit to InstantBird that it manages to handle the amount of irc spam I get whenever I log to my znc without a glitch.
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11:31:52 * clokep just found another auto-complete bug.
11:32:39 <clokep> Type out a name: "ale<tab>" (you get "aleth: "), highlight the whole thing with your mouse, press backspace...you get "ale".
11:33:19 <aleth> ah, makes sense (but is a bug)
11:34:26 <aleth> file it? ;)
11:39:23 <clokep> Yeah, I will.
11:39:40 <clokep> Seems like we should just always take into account selection
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12:20:19 <flo-retina> yeah, seems like we shouldn't attempt to do any magic when there's a selection
12:21:32 <aleth> easy to fix
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14:15:33 <flo-retina> is there a reason why we don't expose a "Send the PASS command." checkbox in the UI to make all these people happy without requiring going to about:config?
14:15:42 <flo-retina> I don't remember all the details of that discussion :-/
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14:26:56 <clokep_work> flo-retina: Because it's not that simple, a server can need *both* passwords.
14:27:01 <clokep_work> They're not stored in the same location.
14:30:42 <flo-retina> I know a server can need both passwords
14:30:46 <flo-retina> but do users know that?
14:31:02 <flo-retina> from users' point of view, other clients "just work" and we don't :-/
14:31:45 <clokep_work> A user might need to know that if they have to provide both.'
14:32:07 <clokep_work> I wouldn't mind having a way for them to provide the PASS password in the UI.
14:32:54 <clokep_work> I've only half read those emails, by the way.
14:35:46 <clokep_work> Last time I tried to make it such that properties could have passwords I ran into some issues.
14:36:19 <clokep_work> Something about the prpl not having accesss to a password manager or something.
14:36:23 <clokep_work> I have a branch with some WIP.
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16:00:19 <akronix> what are mails are your talking about?
16:06:40 <clokep_work> akronix: On our newsgroup/mailing list.
16:06:43 <clokep_work> The support list specifically.
16:06:52 <clokep_work> akronix: Hello by the way, have you had a chance to start your GSoC stuff yet?
16:10:48 <clokep_work> arlolra: Btw I don't know if you saw the conversation I had with redDragonX here on IRC, but it seems that the directions in the README on github are pretty confusing.
16:10:54 <clokep_work> We've had a few people stumble over them
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16:12:23 <arlolra> clokep_work: oh, no. i'll read the logs. when was that?
16:13:44 <clokep_work> arlolra: Friday night (EDT) I think.
16:13:52 <clokep_work> Or maybe Saturday?
16:17:59 <arlolra> k, thanks
16:20:20 <clokep_work> I think it was Saturday, I can find it if need be.
16:24:35 <akronix> oh, I thought I was in all the mailing lists  >_< I don't know why I'm not subscribed to that one. Could anybody give me the link for suscribing? or just the name??
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16:28:32 <clokep_work> akronix: There's probably not any reason for you to subscribe...but https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-instantbird and https://lists.mozilla.org/admindb/dev-chat
16:29:43 <akronix> second one is for all mozilla right?
16:30:27 <akronix> If you think there isn't, I  won't for the moment
16:31:20 <akronix> These days I'm talking with people from the devel list of pidgin cz many people are having issues compiling pidgin 3.0.0, I didn't have time for much more
16:32:07 <clokep_work> akronix: I thought we deicded you were going to start with 2.10.11?
16:32:15 <clokep_work> akronix: I don't know what you mean by "all mozilla".
16:34:10 <akronix> yes, well, I said that because that'd be easier to get working, since 3.0.0 has many dependencies they added recently. But I was talking with another guy who told me that changes from 2 to 3.0 are pretty big
16:36:47 <akronix> so yes, I'll start with 2.10.11 but not very late, even with the first changes, I should move to 3.0.0 and check it out how it fits in 3.0.0
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16:37:35 <akronix> cz even if libpurple hasn't changed a lot, how things are connected apparently has radically changed
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16:41:35 <flo-retina> I think you should start sooner than later anyway ;).
16:43:02 <clokep_work> akronix: What does "cz" mean?
16:43:28 <flo-retina> "cause"
16:43:52 <akronix> yes, I'm sorry If I use not very strict english '-.-
16:44:22 <clokep_work> I've never seen that abbrevation before, not a big deal.
16:44:39 <clokep_work> akronix: I think what flo-retina is trying to say is that don't use that as an excuse to not get started.
16:46:45 <akronix> I agree with you, I'm sorry to not have started earlier, but I promised you I didn't have many spare time to spend.
16:48:25 <clokep_work> akronix: Yeah, we understand...but now's the time to get started! :-)
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18:19:15 <clokep_work> akronix: Did you ever update that wiki page with your plan?
18:19:23 <clokep_work> I think you had just started it last time I Looked. :)
18:20:29 <akronix> No, I didn't. I plan to upload the files where I found the diffs that should be ported
18:21:51 <akronix> to write down the names of the files, not really upload*
18:24:15 <aleth> Is there anything blocking the libpurple update from landing?
18:26:22 <clokep_work> aleth: Someone needs to review it.
18:26:31 <clokep_work> It's the same thing as the last 10 times people have asked me. :P
18:27:10 <aleth> well, if you're all happy with my slightly underinformed r I can take a look at it
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18:27:59 <aleth> or was there anything tricky abotut it?
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18:29:49 <clokep_work> aleth: The only thing "tricky" about it was that I rolled back our custom MSN changes.
18:29:54 <clokep_work> But MSN is mostly dead anyway...
18:30:06 <aleth> shouldn't it just be removed at this point?
18:30:25 <aleth> http://ismsndeadyet.com/
18:30:36 <clokep_work> aleth: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=964828#c20 hould have anything to be careful about.
18:30:38 <instantbot> Bug 964828 maj, --, ---, clokep, ASSI, Update libpurple up to 2.10.11
18:30:46 <clokep_work> If you're OK with r+ing it, then I'll land it right now.
18:31:03 <aleth> I have to take a look first ;)
18:31:40 <clokep_work> You don't *have* to, you just *should*. :P
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18:41:42 <clokep_work> akronix: https://bitbucket.org/clokep/pidgin/branch/purplexpcom might be of interest to you.
18:41:49 <clokep_work> (And EionRobb if he was here...)
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18:51:23 <aleth> hmm, I wonder why facebook_roster.* was added just as fb has removed support
18:51:34 <aleth> maybe just bad timing
18:51:48 <akronix> clokep_work: it is. Did you do an actual merge between both libpurples?
18:52:04 <akronix> btw, let me kwnow when 2.10.11 it's finally landed
18:52:07 <clokep_work> akronix: What's "both" in that statement?
18:52:20 <clokep_work> aleth: Bad timing, I think.
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18:52:44 <akronix> I guess you took pidgin's libpurple code and add some things from instantbird modifications?
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18:53:10 <akronix> or maybe I'm missing the point of the repo :S
18:53:57 <aleth> Have you looked at the diff?
18:54:25 <clokep_work> akronix: It is the resulting repo of following the steps in https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=964828#c20
18:54:27 <instantbot> Bug 964828 maj, --, ---, clokep, ASSI, Update libpurple up to 2.10.11
19:00:35 <akronix> ah ok
19:01:22 <aleth> akronix: it's probably useful for your project to be aware of the changes made to libpurple
19:01:43 <akronix> then the diff it's essentially the patch you posted in the bug, right? I've already taken a look to that patch
19:06:19 <clokep_work> akronix: The diff is *from* that code.
19:06:22 <clokep_work> So yes.
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19:12:25 <instantbot> New Instantbird - Conversation bug 1174843 filed by aleth@instantbird.org.
19:12:26 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1174843 nor, --, ---, aleth, NEW, Disable tab completion keys if the user has selected some text
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19:24:03 <clokep_work> aleth: Ah sorry, thank you!
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19:49:52 <clokep_work> aleth: I planned to just leave MSN for now...
19:49:56 <instantbot> clokep@patrick.cloke.us changed the Resolution on bug 964828 from --- to FIXED.
19:49:57 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=964828 maj, --, 1.6, clokep, RESO FIXED, Update libpurple up to 2.10.11
19:49:57 <clokep_work> akronix: I just landed 2.10.11.
19:50:54 <akronix> clokep_work: Great!
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20:11:18 <aleth> nhnt11: so, does split logs still work?
20:14:27 <nhnt11> aleth: Haven't rebuilt Ib since you guys fixed the bustage
20:14:33 <nhnt11> I un-bitrotted it
20:14:38 <nhnt11> and ran the tests on an old objdir
20:16:59 <aleth> clokep_work: we actually have MSN as a "top protocol"
20:17:20 <aleth> I guess that could be replaced by skypeweb once your prpl lands
20:18:13 <clokep_work> Yeah...
20:18:16 <clokep_work> I should look at that again.
20:23:30 <clokep_work> At least it's out of beta now so I can more easily test. :)
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21:30:31 <flo-retina> would be nice to check sooner than later that it actually compiles on Windows
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21:42:13 <akronix> no windows here :(
21:42:49 <akronix> but isn't there some automatic builds that check it?
21:44:46 <flo-retina> akronix: usually yes. But the Windows machine has been offline lately for some reason. Need to get it back up
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