#instantbird log on 03 13 2015

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00:05:48 <Mook_as> And if that still doesn't work, hard code some DNS servers in /etc/resolv.conf (or whatever thing you use to set up the network)?
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03:10:34 <instant-buildbot> build #244 of linux64-nightly-default is complete: Failure [4failed hg]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/linux64-nightly-default/builds/244
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04:36:25 <instant-buildbot> build #1333 of linux-nightly-default is complete: Failure [4failed compile]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/linux-nightly-default/builds/1333
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05:08:37 <instant-buildbot> build #2583 of macosx-nightly-default is complete: Success [3build successful]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/macosx-nightly-default/builds/2583
05:08:38 <instant-buildbot> build #1656 of win32-nightly-default is complete: Success [3build successful]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/win32-nightly-default/builds/1656
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10:35:44 <clokep> Looks like the linux builder was the normal failure.
10:35:55 <clokep> linux64 hsa the same DNS issue.
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13:54:18 <hadi> clokep_work:  hey, Regarding that ssl issue with synirc and the thing that i had to  save the cert file in order to connect
13:54:37 <hadi> clokep_work:  Apparently i have to do it everytime i  launch instantbird
13:54:51 <clokep_work> hadi: Is it always the same cert? Do they have round robin servers?
13:55:11 <clokep_work> atheme does this and it's super annoying.
13:56:06 <hadi> Well, I believe they have a cluster of nodes and they randomly drop me into one.... so that could be that?
13:56:48 <hadi> There's also this other private server, only one server and It's the same. I should try and see if the cert changes maybe
13:58:19 <hadi> Good idea i just viewed the  cert and grabbed the info. I should see next time i launch instantbird
14:02:51 <clokep_work> You can tell from which server you connect to, yeah.
14:03:06 <clokep_work> If you're unsure if the cert is being saved properly, check the list of certs.
14:04:13 <clokep_work> hadi: What's the actual URL?
14:04:56 <hadi> clokep_work:  i connect to irc.synirc.net is it a bad idea?
14:08:26 <clokep_work> hadi: Yeah so the cert I just got is for moonlight.se.eu.synirc.net, which is probably one of the real servers behind the load balancer.
14:08:57 <hadi> clokep_work:  mine was monster.something, totally different from yours
14:09:45 <clokep_work> Yeah, so we're connecting to irc.synirc.net, but the actual connection goes through the load balancer and we hit a different server which returns it's own cert.
14:09:51 <clokep_work> I'm unsure if this is 'expected' or not.
14:10:09 <clokep_work> I know tons of websites do that and you don't get invalid certs...so...I suspect it's an issue with their set-up. :)
14:10:47 <clokep_work> You could directly link to an individual server...or just keep adding certs until you catch 'em all.
14:11:05 <hadi> That's so annoying, why you should throw different certs to clients, grrr
14:11:33 <hadi> clokep_work:  yeah i will try  connecting to one of them servers to see how that one goes
14:11:50 <hadi> regarding something totally different:
14:12:25 <hadi> IB client in windows, after just a while, refuses to minimize. Nothing happens when i press f9
14:12:38 <hadi> I tested this on two windows 7s
14:13:37 <clokep_work> hadi: Most IM clients don't check certs. ;)
14:13:54 <clokep_work> Does minimizing with the button still work?
14:14:08 <clokep_work> Remind me to try it on my windows machine when I'm not _work
14:15:40 <hadi> Well, I can't find the button with my screen reader, I think you mean the one that minimizes not to the tray?
14:17:38 <hadi> I think the minimize button at the top which minimizes to the taskbar works, but minimize to tray does not work.
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14:22:55 <clokep_work> So when it minimizes to tray, vs. the taskbar is controlled by prefs.
14:23:00 <clokep_work> SO it's hard for me to comment without knowing how those are set.
14:25:04 <hadi> I believe it should  say something in the error console when i minimize to tray, but man working with the error console with the screenreader is very painful, I actually can't  find the copy button either!
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15:29:15 <clokep_work> hadi: It doesn't say anything.
15:29:57 <hadi> clokep_work:  oh you tested it?
15:30:00 <clokep_work> No.
15:30:04 <clokep_work> But I know it doesn't.
15:30:12 <clokep_work>  / would be very surprised.
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16:15:42 <sherief> Still running into https://www.dropbox.com/s/2owelyqjjios2mg/Screenshot%20from%202015-03-11%2021%3A17%3A22.png?dl=0 even after pulling the last comm-central changes
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16:57:22 <clokep_work> sherief: Has the bug been fixed yet?
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17:45:13 <sherief> clokep_work: seems to be closed https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1123771
17:45:15 <instantbot> Bug 1123771 nor, --, mozilla38, gijskruitbosch+bugs, RESO FIXED, XUL textbox[type=search] claims the <image> in it is a button even without the searchbutton attribut
17:47:59 <aleth> sherief: Your problem isn't that there is a comm-central bug (there isn't) but that nobody has localized that string for .ar yet.
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17:50:36 <aleth> sherief: maybe you can talk to the Firefox .ar l10n team and get them to add it?
17:52:16 <sherief> aleth: going for it, thanks.
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17:55:47 <aleth> sherief: here's where the string is missing http://hg.mozilla.org/l10n-central/ar/file/4a00eaa60720/toolkit/chrome/mozapps/extensions/extensions.dtd#l6
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17:58:38 <sherief> aleth: you may not see the correct characters but there is not a single property missing in that dtd.
17:59:54 <aleth> sherief: I don't see search.buttonlabel
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18:01:39 <sherief> Oh.. that's really bad. Why not just put the English strings instead of breaking the whole window like that
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18:06:06 <aleth> sherief: Hmm... I don't know if there's a way you could use en-US for gecko while working on ar for IB. flo-retina?
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19:42:39 <flo-retina> sherief: did you run the merge step before the langpack step?
19:48:10 <sherief> flo-retina: I ran everything an hour ago on a vps freshly without even using a bundle and I get the same error/result
19:49:20 <flo-retina> did the output of that command mention merging something in extensions.dtd?
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19:57:45 <aleth> flo-retina: the problem is he's working on c-c which means there are new strings in m-c which have not been localized there yet
19:58:30 <aleth> If a module A is Cu.imported which itself Cu.imports B, will that import the exported symbols from B as well as those from A?
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20:02:13 <flo-retina> aleth: no
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20:02:26 <aleth> thanks
20:02:49 <flo-retina> aleth: the merge step is used to put en-US strings where localized strings are missing. Should work for both m-c and ib strings. That's why I asked if the merge step had been run before the langpack one
20:03:44 <aleth> oh good, so that problem sounds like it has a straightforward solution
20:14:20 <instantbot> arlolra@gmail.com changed the Resolution on bug 1138689 from INVALID to ---.
20:14:22 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1138689 nor, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, /me and /action should fire a sending-message notification before actually sending the action
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20:22:24 <sherief> flo-retina: I ran everything from the start on new vps today
20:22:27 <sherief> same result
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20:22:43 <sherief> basically copy pasted the commands in a terminal
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20:44:41 <clokep_work> Does https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1143105 affect us? :-S
20:44:44 <instantbot> Bug 1143105 nor, --, ---, dkeeler, ASSI, remove unnecessary nsISSLErrorListener implementations in comm-central
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21:38:22 <clokep_work> Looks like MSN is even deader: http://ismsndeadyet.com/ (MSNP18 is also gone now...)
21:39:06 <EionRobb> \o/
21:39:09 <EionRobb> kill it with fire
21:43:40 <clokep_work> earth, water, fire, heart...
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22:19:40 <clokep_work> \o/
22:29:33 <aleth> good news?
22:31:23 <clokep_work> Kind of. :-\
22:31:31 <clokep_work> MAde good progress on bug 954049...
22:31:33 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=954049 min, --, ---, clokep, ASSI, Presence information for IRC private messages from people not on the buddy list
22:31:35 <clokep_work> Anyway, I need to get going. Ciao.
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23:01:08 <abdelrhman> in bug 1000480, we need to also check to this._connection in this line https://dxr.mozilla.org/comm-central/source/chat/protocols/xmpp/xmpp.jsm?from=xmpp.jsm#168
23:01:10 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1000480 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Don't attempt to send a presence stanza to the MUC if account is disconnected
23:01:14 <abdelrhman> right?
23:02:47 <aleth> abdelrhman: what is calling close()?
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23:04:12 <abdelrhman> per comment above "Called when the user closed the conversation"
23:04:26 <abdelrhman> in XMPPMUCConversation
23:04:28 <aleth> I can see the comment, I'm interested in the code flow
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23:04:51 <aleth> That will make it clearer what the right thing to do is
23:05:17 <aleth> My question is: how do you get from disconnect() to close()
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23:12:43 <abdelrhman> aha, "this." won't work :)
23:12:54 <abdelrhman> needs to be this._account._connection
23:13:13 <aleth> Have you been able to reproduce the problem?
23:13:59 <abdelrhman> no, but is there steps for that
23:14:42 <aleth> It's not clear to me what the exact bug is here.
23:14:44 <aleth> It would be helpful if you could paste an example of the stanza that is sent in the bug. 
23:15:57 <aleth> And the steps used to reproduce.
23:16:32 <aleth> Looks like comment 1 asked someone else the same thing already ;)
23:16:48 <abdelrhman> As I understood from comment 2. the problem was about leaving MUC
23:17:06 <abdelrhman> but summery doesn't seem to
23:17:34 <aleth> Yes, so let's make it more precise as a first step :-)
23:20:57 <aleth> There may be more than one bug.
23:25:47 <abdelrhman> for all cases to send presence stanza if account is disconnected
23:29:19 <aleth> Just add a comment to the bug saying exactly what you have to do to see the problem, and what the problem is (error in the error console? debug log? incorrect stanza?)
23:30:06 <aleth> It's no good fixing something you have not reproduced, as you then have no way to test if it is fixed.
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23:42:50 <abdelrhman> aleth: per comment 2 I can reproduce that.
23:44:09 <aleth> abdelrhman: great, then you can add the comment I asked for ;)
23:48:02 <abdelrhman> but It does not cause errors/warning/ on console log
23:50:15 <aleth> So what does it cause?
23:51:33 <abdelrhman> nothing :), but when account connecting again should be this conversation in the buddies list?
23:52:41 <aleth> Yes (if you lose the internet connection, you want all the existing MUCs to rejoin automatically when you get your internet connection back and reconnect)
23:53:03 <aleth> I still don't understand what exactly you reproduced
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