#instantbird log on 11 25 2014

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00:01:50 <clokep_work> aleth: So I find your suggestion in https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=955353#c3 more confusing.
00:01:52 <instantbot> Bug 955353 nor, --, ---, clokep, ASSI, Rename imIAccountBuddy to prplIAccountBuddy
00:04:06 <clokep_work> aleth: I also don't really understand your second comment.
00:04:19 <aleth> Maybe you can come up with something better? The use of "account" was confusing to me in your sentence
00:04:42 <clokep_work> aleth: Which instance of "account"?
00:06:27 <aleth> You're talking about accounts the *contact* has, but that's nothing to do with the account in prplIAccountBuddy, where the account refers to the account of the user in IB
00:06:55 <clokep_work> aleth: I strongly *disagree* with that.
00:07:18 <clokep_work> Of course the number of accounts that the other person has influences the number of prplIAccountBuddy(s).
00:07:36 <clokep_work> Note that I'm not talking about imIAccounts.
00:07:39 <aleth> yes, but it's multiplicative
00:07:54 <clokep_work> I'm talking about "accounts", meaning that I have the ability to log into a network.
00:08:02 <clokep_work> OK?
00:08:13 <clokep_work> I'm not sure how that affects the meaning of that sentence.
00:08:17 <aleth> yes, I know what you meant to say
00:09:09 <clokep_work> "To be explicit, the difference is that an imIBuddy represents a contact's account on a network, while a prplIAccountBuddy represents the link between your account and your contact's account."?
00:09:33 <aleth> That's clearer, thanks.
00:10:06 <aleth> About the second comment, maybe I'm confused about imIBuddies again
00:10:33 <clokep_work> aleth: So I'm confused about the part you quoted and I'm unsure if it's the part you meant to quote...
00:12:05 <aleth> I didn't look it up, but iirc imIBuddies are per-network
00:13:15 <aleth> "I don't think that's right: you'd end up with two imIBuddies and three prplIAccountBuddies." seems wrong to me too :-S sorry
00:14:30 <aleth> Not sure what I was thinking there :-/
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00:14:45 <clokep_work> aleth: I name the account buddies right there: "@lic4, alice88, and _alice_"
00:14:50 <clokep_work> Does that not make sense?
00:14:56 <aleth> It makes sense
00:15:36 <aleth> In this example the # of accountbuddies is == the # of imIbuddies
00:16:03 <aleth> So just ignore my comment there
00:19:53 <clokep_work> OK. :)
00:19:57 * clokep_work has an awful headache.
00:20:23 <aleth> too much coffee? or too much coffeescript? ;)
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00:21:05 <clokep> I git rmed that today. ;)
00:21:26 <clokep> Too much knockoiut, I think
00:22:05 <aleth> knocks you out (har har)
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04:32:01 <instant-buildbot> build #1588 of win32-nightly-default is complete: Success [3build successful]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/win32-nightly-default/builds/1588
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04:55:29 <instant-buildbot> build #1238 of linux-nightly-default is complete: Success [3build successful]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/linux-nightly-default/builds/1238
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05:15:06 <instant-buildbot> build #2436 of macosx-nightly-default is complete: Success [3build successful]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/macosx-nightly-default/builds/2436
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11:44:37 <clokep> Looks like I caused no new build failures last night. :)
11:49:51 <flo-retina> :)
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13:00:16 <clokep_work> instantbot: uuid
13:00:17 <instantbot> 45ce33d9-d335-4cce-b904-44821987e048 (/msg instantbot cid for CID form)
13:01:12 <clokep_work> instantbot: uuid
13:01:13 <instantbot> 55331ab9-54e9-4cd3-bb19-a46da76898e5 (/msg instantbot cid for CID form)
13:01:56 <clokep_work> instantbot: uuid
13:01:57 <instantbot> c56520ba-d923-4b95-8416-ca6733c4a38e (/msg instantbot cid for CID form)
13:02:20 <clokep_work> instantbot: uuid
13:02:21 <instantbot> 0c5021ac-7acd-4118-bf4f-c0dd9cb3ddef (/msg instantbot cid for CID form)
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13:03:08 <clokep_work> instantbot: uuid
13:03:09 <instantbot> f8ac75ed-e9b5-432e-989b-f01fed2e5a3f (/msg instantbot cid for CID form)
13:03:18 <clokep_work> instantbot: uuid
13:03:19 <instantbot> 7771402c-ff55-41f5-86b4-59b93f9b0693 (/msg instantbot cid for CID form)
13:04:04 <clokep_work> instantbot: uuid
13:04:05 <instantbot> c0b5b647-b0ec-4dc6-9e53-31a762a30a6e (/msg instantbot cid for CID form)
13:04:10 <clokep_work> Last one. ;)
13:06:40 <Defman> wow
13:07:26 * clokep_work just touched a lot of interfaces.
13:11:01 * Defman start working at new UI for the program...
13:12:26 * flo-retina wonders why clokep_work uses instantbot in a public channel to generate uuids
13:12:44 <Fallen> and why not uuidgen? :-)
13:14:59 <clokep_work> flo-retina, Fallen: Cause I like the attention of you guys asking me questions. ;)
13:15:29 * flo-retina makes notes of asking clokep questions all the time :-P
13:15:34 <Fallen> you are lucky I was just making coffee :-)
13:16:21 <clokep_work> Fallen: Where's mine?
13:19:00 * Defman don't understand anything
13:19:09 <Fallen> ☕
13:19:18 * Defman is a bad UI designer
13:19:29 <Defman> Coffee!
13:19:49 <Defman> I drink coffee 2 times every day
13:21:59 <flo-retina> clokep_work: looks like you need more interns ;)
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13:23:11 <clokep_work> flo-retina: Always...
13:23:26 <clokep_work> Only if they're good though. :)
13:23:40 <flo-retina> you mean you need only good coffee?
13:28:44 <aleth> hmm, coffee
13:28:49 <aleth> you are giving me ideas
13:31:21 <Defman> It sounds little bit scare.
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13:38:03 <clokep_work> flo-retina: FWIW I meant for everyone to be in the buddy list, but "there could be" is reasonable.
13:43:13 <flo-retina> "I meant for everyone to be in the buddy list" I guessed that; but the comment doesn't say it.
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13:47:08 <clokep_work> Yes, you're correct. :)
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14:04:50 <Defman> free beer!
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14:43:33 <clokep_work> flo-retina, aleth: Should I add a sentence saying why it "could" vs. "would"?
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14:47:18 <aleth> clokep_work: It can't hurt.
14:47:40 <aleth> Might help some future gsoc student...
14:50:24 <clokep_work> aleth: "Note that the above uses "may be" and "could" because it depends on whether the contacts are on the contact list (and therefore have imIContact / imIBuddy instances)."
14:50:41 <clokep_work> At the end of the first paragraph for prplIAccountBuddy
14:51:04 <aleth> Sounds good
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14:53:05 <clokep_work> aleth: I'll push that myself at some point.
14:55:00 * clokep_work debates just pushing that now. :-[
14:55:36 <aleth> Land all the things!
14:55:57 <aleth> Ah, you already did :D
14:59:35 * nhnt11 wanted to push this before he forgot: http://pastebin.instantbird.com/1063552
14:59:40 <nhnt11> I'll comment on the bug
15:03:37 <nhnt11> aleth: Can I r=you on that^ ?
15:04:07 <aleth> Sure!
15:05:00 <nhnt11> Bah, I can't reopen the bug and attach a patch in one go
15:06:29 <nhnt11> aleth: I'm hesitant to mark it checkin needed since there's no way to make it obvious which patch needs to be checked in.
15:07:28 <aleth> nhnt11: In principle you can add checkin-needed and put a comment in the whiteboard, in practice it's safer to just do it yourself
15:07:53 <nhnt11> Yeah, I'll do it myself later (or feel free to push it if you've got a minute :))
15:08:21 <instantbot> nhnt11@gmail.com changed the Resolution on bug 955641 from FIXED to ---.
15:08:22 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=955641 enh, --, 1.6, nhnt11, REOP, Open debug logs in a tab
15:09:39 <aleth> np
15:11:00 <aleth> Nice, qimport asked me which patch I wanted to import :)
15:11:17 <nhnt11> thanks!
15:11:35 <instantbot> aleth@instantbird.org changed the Resolution on bug 955641 from --- to FIXED.
15:11:36 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=955641 enh, --, 1.6, nhnt11, RESO FIXED, Open debug logs in a tab
15:12:20 <nhnt11> Bah
15:12:27 <nhnt11> I really want to get that gloda bug out of the way :S
15:12:39 <nhnt11> Thought I'd have time yesterday but well..
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15:15:39 <Defman> Hmm
15:15:43 <Defman> did you pay for music?
15:20:49 <nhnt11> what?
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15:40:49 <Defman> What "what"?
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15:41:00 <Defman> Okay
15:42:24 <Defman> Did you pay money for listen to music in the Internet?
15:43:23 <flo-retina> I can't see any change on that line http://pastebin.instantbird.com/1063552 :-S
15:43:34 <flo-retina> Defman: this question seems very off topic for this channel.
15:44:09 <Defman> okayface.jpg
15:44:41 <nhnt11> flo-retina: s/Commnad/Command/
15:44:50 <nhnt11> Rather unfortunate typo :(
15:44:50 <flo-retina> ah!
15:45:01 <flo-retina> code editors should do spell checking
15:45:02 <flo-retina> ;)
15:45:15 <nhnt11> yeah
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15:45:21 <nhnt11> I found out recently that Eclipse does!
15:45:23 <nhnt11> At least in comments
15:45:30 <nhnt11> but then, it's not great for much else
15:45:33 <aleth> pop up a little dog that asks "Did you really mean: Commnad?"
15:45:42 <nhnt11> lol^
15:47:28 <Defman> flo-retina: in most code editors spell checking works not as background service
15:47:58 <flo-retina> nhnt11: if it doesn't support camel case it's pointless
15:48:03 <nhnt11> Yeah
15:48:53 <Defman> Camel case?
15:49:07 <Defman> It's like ThIs ThInG?
15:49:16 <nhnt11> Defman: No, Its likeThisThing
15:49:19 <nhnt11> it's*
15:49:39 <Defman> Ah, okay
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15:58:51 <clokep_work> Defman: Please try to keep your comments on-topic here. It's confusing for us when there's random talk mixed in.
15:59:17 <Defman> Okay
15:59:41 <clokep_work> Thanks. :)
16:00:10 <Defman> You're welcome :D
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16:56:09 <Defman> I can talk with myself in private chat?
16:57:17 <aleth> yes, have fun
16:57:32 <Defman> And...
16:57:35 <Defman> it's not a bug?
16:57:43 <aleth> Why would it be a bug?
16:57:47 <Defman> I don't know
16:57:47 <aleth> You chose to do it ;)
16:57:52 <Defman> okay
16:57:56 <Defman> nice... feature.
16:58:42 <Defman> In some times I really need to talk with myself. Thanks for giving me a change with it :D
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17:44:52 <flo-retina> hmm I have someone with the "<name> is typing" panel stuck. But the tab icon doesn't show the person as typing anymore
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18:05:00 <instantbot> standard8@mozilla.com set status-thunderbird to fixed on bug 1078223.
18:05:01 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1078223 nor, --, 1.6, aleth, RESO FIXED, Unhandled IRC messages: 598 and 599
18:05:21 <aleth> flo-retina: did you switch away from the tab and back again?
18:05:30 <instantbot> standard8@mozilla.com set status-thunderbird to fixed on bug 1080838.
18:05:31 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1080838 nor, --, 1.6, aleth, RESO FIXED, Participants not removed on leaving a channel
18:07:28 <flo-retina> aleth: yes, still stuck
18:07:42 <flo-retina> aleth: I mean, stuck when I have that tab selected
18:07:47 <flo-retina> the panel doesn't appear on other tabs
18:07:50 <aleth> flo-retina: no, I mean was that what got it to be stuck in the first place
18:07:59 <flo-retina> no idea
18:08:03 <aleth> (it was a guess for STR)
18:08:03 <flo-retina> talking to plenty of people
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18:16:02 <clokep_work> Now if only instantbot announced review requests. ;)
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20:01:34 <nhnt11> clokep_work: Btw, does the debug log tab look ok on Windows?
20:02:02 <clokep_work> nhnt11: I forgot to try it once your fix landed.
20:02:18 <nhnt11> I'd appreciate it if you could post a screenshot :)
20:02:32 <clokep_work> nhnt11: Remind me when I'm home.
20:02:41 <nhnt11> OK!
20:03:11 <nhnt11> aleth: So I'm guessing split logs is on hold until gloda is fixed? I think I'll start poking at that now..
20:03:33 <aleth> nhnt11: Right, fix the existing regressions first
20:03:42 <aleth> less confusing that way ;)
20:04:11 <aleth> But you can possibly land both at the same time
20:04:33 <nhnt11> Oh and btw, has it been long enough to start thinking about some other work around for Google Talk?
20:04:52 <aleth> The only workaround would be to get m-c to back out their patch
20:04:57 <clokep_work> nhnt11: We don't have any idea of what to even *try* as a work around.
20:05:05 <aleth> And that's not a great solution
20:05:17 <nhnt11> I suppose we're against building nightlies with that patch backed out?
20:07:56 <clokep_work> nhnt11: Someone oculd ping the guys in security, I suppose.
20:09:10 <flo-retina> yes, please do :)
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20:33:15 <clokep_work> nhnt11: Did you ask?
20:34:02 <nhnt11> clokep_work: on #security? no, was afk till like a second ago
20:34:15 <nhnt11> I'm not sure I know enough details to ask anything fwiw
20:34:24 <nhnt11> I can read the bug in a bit...
20:34:31 <nhnt11> busy at the moment though
20:38:56 <clokep_work> I think it's more of ping the guys who have said stuff and ask if we've heard anything or if there's a work around. :)
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21:19:10 <flo-retina> clokep_work: I think we should ping the mozilla security folks and push them to include a work around in m-c
21:19:18 <flo-retina> preferably this week (ie. before the next merge)
21:19:42 <clokep_work> flo-retina: I agree. :) How do we do that?
21:20:08 <flo-retina> IIRC there was a patch for that, but they didn't want to check it in before we at least tried to contact google
21:20:20 <nhnt11> re
21:20:29 <nhnt11> yeah, they have a workaround attached to the m-c bug already
21:20:41 * nhnt11 opens up the bugs
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21:21:01 <clokep_work> IIRC there was a patch in a separate bug. But I don't know for sure.
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22:10:26 <clokep_work> flo-retina: Maybe you can corner someone at Portland next week? :)
22:10:40 <flo-retina> clokep_work: the merge is Friday
22:11:02 <flo-retina> if we want to release anything based on 36, we should have this in this week (or uplifted to aurora)
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23:23:19 <nhnt11> clokep: You home? Can you get me that screenshot? :)
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23:37:32 <clokep> nhnt11: 
23:37:34 <clokep> Sure what of?
23:37:39 <nhnt11> debug log tab
23:37:40 <nhnt11> on windows
23:38:26 * clokep suspects disappointement.
23:38:36 * nhnt11 too
23:39:19 <nhnt11> The log itself should look fine though, it's html
23:39:23 <nhnt11> the toolbar though..
23:39:44 <clokep> nhnt11: http://imgur.com/NGVKPPp
23:40:18 <nhnt11> Okay, that looks totally broken :-/
23:40:20 <aleth> That's weird. Where are the colours?
23:40:29 <nhnt11> I wonder if I forgot to package the HTML file for windows
23:41:32 <aleth> It does look a bit absent
23:41:41 <nhnt11> No, that html file is in content/
23:41:50 <aleth> The refresh and copy buttons are off too
23:41:52 <nhnt11> so it's not platform specific
23:42:02 <nhnt11> Yeah, but I get why that could happen
23:42:58 <nhnt11> ah, the css file
23:43:41 <nhnt11> Hmm, it still seems to be packaged for all platforms...
23:43:41 <clokep> nhnt11: Nothing in the error file
23:43:47 <nhnt11> thanks
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23:46:08 <aleth> nhnt11: check im/themes/jar.mn for win-specific stuff
23:46:17 <nhnt11> already on it
23:46:33 <nhnt11> I suspect this will do the trick: http://pastebin.instantbird.com/1064349
23:46:57 <nhnt11> I forgot aero has a separate packaging path thing
23:47:06 <aleth> and debugLogPanel.css too? or is that elsewhere
23:47:19 <nhnt11> Yeah, that too
23:47:46 <nhnt11> so finally, http://pastebin.instantbird.com/1064350
23:47:52 * nhnt11 would rather test this before pushing
23:48:06 <nhnt11> (get it all in one go)
23:48:20 <nhnt11> This much is definitely needed though
23:49:25 <clokep> nhnt11: I can test it in a inute.
23:49:34 <nhnt11> Awesome, thanks!
23:50:13 <clokep> nhnt11: Assuming I have a working build.
23:53:33 <clokep> nhnt11: http://imgur.com/mfgKvfs
23:53:50 <nhnt11> Much better!
23:53:57 <nhnt11> clokep: Did you try the first pastebin or the second one?
23:54:23 <clokep> nhnt11: Second.
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23:54:53 <nhnt11> Okay, so the buttons need work.
23:54:54 <nhnt11> thanks!
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23:55:41 * nhnt11 wonders why |-moz-appearance: toolbarbutton;| doesn't seem to be working on Windows
23:56:42 <clokep> Why aren't they just buttons? :-S
23:56:54 <aleth> Maybe they are "flat" buttons :P
23:57:08 <nhnt11> They're toolbarbuttons, because they're in a toolbar.
23:57:13 * nhnt11 shrugs
23:57:29 <nhnt11> Toolbar buttons and "normal" buttons look quite different on a mac, at least..
23:57:36 <aleth> Right.
23:58:17 <nhnt11> I don't really like the look of those buttons on Mac either, fwiw
23:58:22 <aleth> The debug log was already convenient the other day, debugging the rejoin stuff
23:58:35 <nhnt11> Great! :)
23:58:38 <aleth> Much more convenient to have it in a tab!
23:58:59 * nhnt11 thinks the accounts dropdown menu looks better on windows
23:59:03 <aleth> nhnt11: it's also a little disconcerting because they don't respond to :hover
23:59:18 <nhnt11> What do you expect when you hover?
23:59:24 <nhnt11> I would assume a tooltip
23:59:29 <nhnt11> but what should be in it?
23:59:38 <aleth> No, just some change to show its a button
23:59:39 <nhnt11> do you mean the links?
23:59:46 <nhnt11> Oh, the buttons