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04:30:33 <instant-buildbot> build #1574 of win32-nightly-default is complete: Success [3build successful]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/win32-nightly-default/builds/1574
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08:58:40 <mhs> fyi: the latest nightly resolved yesterdays XPCOM-bug for me
08:58:47 <mhs> thanks!
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09:15:21 <flo-retina> mhs: :)
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09:48:04 <flo-retina> "Error: Trying to remove a CAP (sasl) which isn't added. Source File: resource://gre/components/irc.js Line: 1449 Source Code: prpl-irc: ircAccount.prototype.removeCAP" seems to be a new error
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11:47:44 <clokep> Woo :) My build from last night finished.
11:47:49 <flo-retina> :)
11:47:54 <flo-retina> Good morning :)
11:48:00 <clokep> hg pul --mq
11:48:11 <clokep> That's not the right place for that. ;)
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11:50:46 <clokep> Good morning to you too! :)
11:52:45 <flo-retina> 52 minutes late ;)
11:58:37 <clokep> Meh, timezones.
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13:47:25 <clokep_work> aleth: For future reference...I find it easier when you show UI screenshots if there's a before/after pair. :)
13:48:02 <clokep_work> I'd rather bounce that review to Florian though. :-\
13:48:13 <flo-retina> bug number?
13:52:34 <clokep_work> Bug 1097995
13:52:36 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1097995 min, --, ---, aleth, ASSI, Dividing line in conv-top is too close to the display name
13:59:46 <instantbot> New Chat Core - General bug 1098312 filed by clokep@gmail.com.
13:59:47 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1098312 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Port changes to allow MSN to connect again
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14:16:38 <clokep_work> Is anyone else secretly hoping they finally kill MSN? ;)
14:17:20 <flo-retina> nope, you are the only one who feels this needs to be kept a secret :-D
14:17:42 <flo-retina> clokep_work: I'm a bit worried that we have nothing interesting to offer for Skype support though :-/
14:18:07 <clokep_work> I closed the bug the other day. :(
14:23:35 <flo-retina> I saw that
14:23:56 <flo-retina> but your comment there was correct; there's nothing obvious we can do
14:27:12 <clokep_work> I think EionRobb's solution isn't tenable and I think might not work on non-Linux anymore?
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14:37:00 <instantbot> aleth@instantbird.org changed the Resolution on bug 1097995 from --- to FIXED.
14:37:01 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1097995 min, --, 1.6, aleth, RESO FIXED, Dividing line in conv-top is too close to the display name
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14:37:33 <aleth> clokep_work: you're right, sorry. I attached another screenshot just in case ;)
14:39:32 <clokep_work> Thanks.
14:40:35 <aleth> Some rainy day one should go through those CSS files and optimize them
14:41:28 <aleth> It's probably not that bad actually, but moving things to osx/linux/windows dirs instead of ifdefs would make it more readable
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14:55:46 <flo-retina> aleth: it's a messy mess ;)
14:56:13 <flo-retina> keep in mind that there's retina and non-retina, aero and non aero, and the Windows classic theme, then Linux is yet another can of worms ;)
14:57:07 * aleth wonders if Windows 10 is aero or non-aero
14:59:48 <clokep_work> aleth: aero-ish, but I Think w/o transparency.
15:00:09 <aleth> So we'll need a third Windows file? :-/
15:00:39 <clokep_work> I don't thinks o.
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15:05:26 <iamjayakumars> Guys, still instanbird is not working with gtalk 
15:05:27 <iamjayakumars> :(
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15:06:00 <clokep_work> iamjayakumars: Yes, you can CC yourself to the bug for updates.
15:06:13 <iamjayakumars> clokep_work: bug id
15:06:34 <clokep_work> iamjayakumars: Bug 1092701
15:06:36 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1092701 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Cannot connect to Google Talk
15:07:40 <iamjayakumars> thanks clokep_work
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15:17:07 <qheaden> A wild qheaden appears again!
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15:46:16 <InReal4D> (fr-eng) Hello, there is no synchronization messages when someone sends me one when I'm offline with Google Talk ?
15:47:49 <InReal4D> or no synchronization messages while I'm disconnected after login.
15:49:05 <clokep_work> InReal4D: It seems to only happen when Hangouts users send it.
15:49:19 <clokep_work> bug 989039
15:49:21 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=989039 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Google Talk no longer receives offline messages
15:49:34 <InReal4D> ok. thanks.
15:50:12 <clokep_work> I'd love for it to work, but we don't get the messages. It used to work. :(
15:51:35 <InReal4D> "It used to work." -> Translation wobbly xD
15:53:08 <InReal4D> tthank you for your answers, soon!
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15:55:19 <clokep_work> InReal4D: I assume it's a decision that was purposefully made by the Google team...
15:56:52 <aleth> InReal4D: if you can convince your friends to use a different XMPP server, you will have no problems ;)
15:57:37 <flo-retina> you will have _different_ problems
15:57:46 <flo-retina> ah, you meant if you convince all your friends
15:57:51 <flo-retina> good luck with that :-/
15:57:53 <aleth> yes, that's the problem ;)
15:58:21 <clokep_work> All my friends drink the Google Cool-Aid by the gallon.
15:58:57 <flo-retina> and if they don't, they use Facebook or Whatsapp instead, which doesn't help
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16:00:30 <clokep_work> Yeah, the Facebook XMPP gateway is even worse than Google's. ;)
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16:07:08 <clokep_work> aleth: We haven't heard anymore about the GTalk stuff, right?
16:07:16 <clokep_work> Not sure if you hang ou tin #security and seen anything or... :)
16:07:53 <aleth> clokep_work: I haven't seen anything, and not been on #security for a day or so
16:08:05 <aleth> they have logs though
16:15:32 <aleth> clokep_work: there's no way to look at the google bugs, is there?
16:15:34 <flo-retina> aleth: "Yes, but there's nothing wrong with improving things incrementally." hence my r+ ;)
16:15:58 <flo-retina> aleth: I think you need to become a google employee first.
16:16:08 <aleth> ah, I thought it might have been because it was a regression ;)
16:16:51 <flo-retina> aleth: my r+ was because it seems a step in the right direction, but I don't think we can claim we are done fixing the CSS regression from that generic-icon patch yet
16:17:02 <aleth> Right.
16:17:14 <flo-retina> mostly due to Windows/Linux, like you pointed out
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20:35:32 <flo-retina> FYI https://status.mozilla.org/en-US/detail/174/
20:36:29 <aleth> what, I needn't have fixed that bug? ;)
20:36:41 <clokep_work> flo-retina: Thanks. :)
20:36:57 <flo-retina> aleth: that doesn't say which version they are installing
20:37:08 <aleth> True.
20:37:11 <flo-retina> could be that they just apply a security update without any other bugfix
20:37:24 <aleth> And inspircd wouldn't have fixed it anyway if we hadn't filed it
20:37:48 <clokep_work> flo-retina, aleth: I just asked in #it. :-D
20:37:58 * clokep_work hopes that's the right location...
20:38:08 <flo-retina> clokep_work: I would try #moc
20:38:19 <clokep_work> flo-retina: I pinged the guy so...
20:38:36 <flo-retina> "The topic for #moc is: IRC maintenance (Bug 1084631)"
20:38:37 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1084631 is not accessible
20:38:44 <clokep_work> What's #moc vs. #it?
20:38:58 <flo-retina> " You are not authorized to access bug #1084631. "
20:39:07 <flo-retina> it's neither moco-confidential nor security-confidential
20:39:13 <flo-retina> I wonder what other group that could be
20:44:56 <clokep_work> aleth: It will be fixed, they're rolling out v2.0.18.
20:45:36 <aleth> Looks like inspircd release rapidly :-)
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21:23:22 <clokep_work> Nice of Magnus to port that for us.
21:23:31 <clokep_work> I had half a patch floating around to make a toolkit package-manifest.in ...
21:30:42 * flo-retina hasn't seen anything being ported by Magnus recently, and feels like he's missing out
21:31:07 <aleth> https://hg.mozilla.org/comm-central/rev/5c7a3bfe09cc
21:31:11 <aleth> I assume.
21:32:08 <flo-retina> ah :)
21:33:11 <clokep_work> Yep!
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