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00:03:19 <aleth> Not much you can do if they've all gone home... 00:07:41 <-- clokep has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 00:54:46 --> rosonline has joined #instantbird 01:02:15 <-- Rym has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 01:03:05 --> Rym has joined #instantbird 01:04:09 <-- DGMurdockIII has quit (Quit: Leaving) 01:05:16 <-- mpmc has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.6a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 01:28:53 --> sonny has joined #instantbird 01:29:07 <-- sonny has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.6a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 01:57:07 <-- Armada has quit (Connection closed) 02:12:12 <-- Rym has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 02:13:41 --> Rym has joined #instantbird 02:26:56 <-- aleth has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 02:48:07 <-- EionRobb1 has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 02:48:33 --> EionRobb has joined #instantbird 02:54:25 --> mconley has joined #instantbird 02:58:35 * redDragon|away is now known as redDragon 02:59:03 <-- EionRobb has quit (Connection closed) 02:59:14 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 02:59:14 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep 02:59:52 --> EionRobb has joined #instantbird 03:03:14 <-- rosonline has quit (Connection closed) 03:15:25 <instant-buildbot> build #1198 of linux-nightly-default is complete: Failure [4failed compile] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/linux-nightly-default/builds/1198 03:36:51 --> iamjayakumars has joined #instantbird 03:37:35 --> DGMurdockIII has joined #instantbird 03:46:23 <instant-buildbot> build #2388 of macosx-nightly-default is complete: Success [3build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/macosx-nightly-default/builds/2388 03:58:51 <-- Rym has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 04:01:27 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com changed the Resolution on bug 1084970 from --- to FIXED. 04:01:28 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1084970 nor, --, 1.6, clokep, RESO FIXED, Windows build bustage: Error: im\installer\package-manifest:35: Missing file(s): bin/gkmedias.dll 04:04:44 <-- EionRobb has quit (Connection closed) 04:05:41 --> EionRobb has joined #instantbird 04:06:11 <instant-buildbot> build #1555 of win32-nightly-default is complete: Failure [4failed shell_6] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/win32-nightly-default/builds/1555 04:07:41 <clokep> Guess I waited too long to commit that. :-D 04:25:56 --> Rym has joined #instantbird 04:49:14 <clokep> instantbot: uuid 04:49:15 <instantbot> 1973b1d3-e406-4f95-b287-fef2979799e2 (/msg instantbot cid for CID form) 04:54:55 <-- mconley has quit (Connection closed) 05:07:30 <-- EionRobb has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 05:24:15 <-- DGMurdockIII has quit (Quit: Leaving) 05:31:13 <instant-buildbot> build #93 of linux64-nightly-default is complete: Success [3build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/linux64-nightly-default/builds/93 05:46:56 <-- iamjayakumars has quit (Connection closed) 05:46:59 --> iamjayakumars has joined #instantbird 06:02:04 * redDragon is now known as redDragon|away 06:05:39 * redDragon|away is now known as redDragon 06:11:52 <-- iamjayakumars has quit (Connection closed) 06:17:25 <-- Widdershins has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 06:21:09 <-- Rym has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 06:34:27 --> nhnt11 has joined #instantbird 06:41:37 * nhnt11 managed this on his flight: http://puu.sh/ci9F9/7bbd1b76e0.png 06:47:58 --> Rym has joined #instantbird 06:52:05 <-- Rym has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 06:55:35 --> mconley has joined #instantbird 06:59:42 <-- mconley has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 07:24:36 --> nhnt12 has joined #instantbird 07:26:06 <-- nhnt11 has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 07:26:42 * nhnt12 is now known as nhnt11 07:34:46 <-- nhnt11 has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 07:41:22 --> sawrubh has joined #instantbird 07:41:55 --> iamjayakumars has joined #instantbird 08:15:03 <-- iamjayakumars has quit (Connection closed) 08:30:34 <-- clokep has quit (Connection closed) 08:32:01 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 08:32:01 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep 08:36:01 --> Rym has joined #instantbird 08:40:30 <-- Rym has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 09:43:41 <-- sawrubh has quit (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity) 09:59:59 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 09:59:59 * ChanServ sets mode +o aleth 10:19:06 <-- aleth has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 10:30:03 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 10:30:03 * ChanServ sets mode +o aleth 10:34:24 --> mpmc has joined #instantbird 10:39:51 <aleth> nhnt11: that looks promising! :) 10:56:10 --> mconley has joined #instantbird 11:00:16 <-- mconley has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 11:02:53 --> Armada has joined #instantbird 11:22:57 --> petunia has joined #instantbird 11:26:29 --> Rym has joined #instantbird 11:29:36 --> aleth1 has joined #instantbird 11:29:36 * ChanServ sets mode +o aleth1 11:30:06 <-- aleth has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 11:30:57 <-- Rym has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 11:36:18 <-- gerard-majax has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 11:51:33 --> gerard-majax has joined #instantbird 11:59:20 --> iamjayakumars has joined #instantbird 12:20:38 --> Rym has joined #instantbird 12:25:06 <-- Rym has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 12:54:35 <-- BWMerlin has quit (Client exited) 13:14:48 --> Rym has joined #instantbird 13:19:15 <-- Rym has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 13:33:24 <-- iamjayakumars has quit (Connection closed) 13:34:07 --> iamjayakumars has joined #instantbird 13:43:17 <-- iamjayakumars has quit (Connection closed) 13:43:47 --> iamjayakumars has joined #instantbird 13:47:04 <-- petunia has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 14:07:38 --> mconley has joined #instantbird 14:08:57 --> Rym has joined #instantbird 14:13:26 <-- Rym has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 14:25:11 <-- mconley has quit (Connection closed) 14:36:11 <clokep> aleth1: Thanks for the XMPP patch. 14:36:19 <clokep> Btw, as you figure out random things in that code, feel free to add more comments. 14:38:55 <aleth1> It's not really a matter of comments there. I kind of dislike that code, but designing something better would require a lot of time :-/ 14:38:59 * aleth1 is now known as aleth 14:39:34 <aleth> clokep: I'm seeing a lot of Nickserv "You are already identified" messages since the server change 14:39:53 <clokep> aleth: Sounds like you have the same opinion as Florian! 14:49:12 * clokep doesn't really want to review bug 1084109... 14:49:15 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1084109 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, displayStatusText() is not implemented in Thunderbird 14:51:20 <aleth> punt it to the ui reviewer who should decide if typing notifications are displayed properly in TB? 14:53:01 <clokep> I can't evne get chat to work in my nightly. :-\ 14:53:20 <aleth> TB still needs that m-c patch to land iirc 14:53:47 <clokep> I'm on an older nightly. 14:59:23 <-- aleth has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 15:03:09 --> Rym has joined #instantbird 15:07:36 <-- Rym has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 15:09:41 <-- Suiseiseki has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 15:21:22 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 15:21:22 * ChanServ sets mode +o aleth 15:27:06 --> Suiseiseki has joined #instantbird 15:29:57 --> Rym has joined #instantbird 15:37:23 <-- iamjayakumars has quit (Connection closed) 15:37:48 --> iamjayakumars has joined #instantbird 15:51:11 <-- sherief has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 16:03:08 --> mconley has joined #instantbird 16:06:01 <-- iamjayakumars has quit (Connection closed) 16:06:27 --> iamjayakumars has joined #instantbird 16:07:48 <-- iamjayakumars has quit (Connection closed) 16:32:51 <-- Rym has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 16:50:09 --> Rym has joined #instantbird 17:04:33 --> sawrubh has joined #instantbird 17:18:07 <-- mpmc has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.6a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 17:38:29 <-- Tonnes has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91 [Firefox 33.0/20141011015303]) 17:53:50 --> Tonnes has joined #instantbird 18:13:37 * redDragon is now known as redDragon|away 18:22:32 <instantbot> aleth@instantbird.org changed the Resolution on bug 1085025 from --- to DUPLICATE. 18:22:33 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1085025 nor, --, ---, nobody, RESO DUPLICATE, Handle video call error responses 18:33:06 <clokep> aleth: Ah, we found that typo, guess Florian never uploaded a new patch. :( 18:33:15 <clokep> Found it right before I left, thanks for updating it. 18:33:31 <aleth> It produced very confusing errors ;) 18:33:56 <clokep> :) 18:35:24 <clokep> I hate the amount of error checking necessary with the XML stuff. :-\ 18:35:58 <aleth> Yes, and those patches I added today are probably just the tip of the iceberg :-/ 18:37:13 <clokep> Yes. 18:37:28 <clokep> FWIW I think flo is more of hte opinion of landing that stuff "soon" and doing more in follow-ups. 18:37:36 <aleth> Definitely 18:37:38 <clokep> But we need to write the "pref-off" code. 18:37:54 <aleth> I just commented with what I think are the things left to do in that bug 18:39:15 <clokep> Cool! Thanks. 18:41:27 <aleth> One of the followups will have to look into what causes the weird webrtc audio issues. nhnt11 thought it might be the macbook speaker being on top of the mic... 18:43:01 <clokep> It could be, but I thought it had something to handle some of that stuff. 18:43:08 <clokep> We could try it with a headset most likely. 18:43:53 <aleth> Or add a mute button and see if that makes it go away 18:54:24 <instantbot> New Chat Core - IRC bug 1085150 filed by aleth@instantbird.org. 18:54:25 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1085150 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Handle NickServ "You are already identified" messages on nick change 18:54:52 --> hadi has joined #instantbird 18:55:20 --> stoyan has joined #instantbird 19:07:02 * clokep wonders if aleth would be interested in taking a look at that async password migration bug... 19:07:33 <aleth> ok (but not today I think) 19:07:59 <clokep> I keep looking at it and not getting anywhere, I think i tneeds fresh eyes. 19:13:40 <-- sawrubh has quit (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity) 19:18:25 --> EionRobb has joined #instantbird 20:00:23 <-- Rym has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 20:08:47 <-- hadi has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.6a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 20:24:45 --> nhnt11 has joined #instantbird 20:32:13 --> Rym has joined #instantbird 20:32:21 <-- stoyan has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1-rdmsoft [XULRunner 34.0/20141014134955]) 20:36:41 <-- Rym has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 20:44:08 --> Rym has joined #instantbird 20:58:04 <-- mconley has quit (Connection closed) 21:10:20 <aleth> nhnt11: Is that a richlistbox in your debug log tab? 21:11:12 <-- nhnt11 has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 21:14:38 --> nhnt11 has joined #instantbird 21:18:40 <-- nhnt11 has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 21:20:45 --> nhnt11 has joined #instantbird 21:20:57 <nhnt11> aleth: No 21:21:17 <nhnt11> It's a browser 21:21:29 <aleth> ah :) 21:21:30 <nhnt11> It's advantageous because it simplifies moving the tab between windows, and you can copy snippets of text as you please 21:21:43 <aleth> yes, good idea 21:22:20 <clokep> :) 21:26:46 <nhnt11> btw, the stuff I got done on the flight was the menu and buttons at the top 21:26:55 <nhnt11> The browser part is already attached to that bug 21:27:06 * aleth looks forward to it 21:27:07 <nhnt11> bug 955641 21:27:09 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=955641 nor, --, ---, nhnt11, ASSI, Open debug logs in a tab 21:33:54 --> sonny has joined #instantbird 21:34:11 <-- sonny has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.6a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 21:56:18 <-- clokep has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.6a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 21:56:25 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 21:56:25 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep 21:58:45 --> flo-retina has joined #instantbird 21:58:45 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo-retina flo-retina 21:59:43 <flo-retina> Hello :) 22:01:35 <-- nhnt11 has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 22:07:29 <flo-retina> aleth: do you think "Could not connect to remote server" makes any sense from a user point of view? (hint: my answer to that question is "no") 22:07:59 <aleth> You're right 22:09:33 <clokep> lol 22:09:54 <aleth> I wasn't really thinking too hard about the wording of the strings yet ;) 22:10:00 <flo-retina> are you positive that we refuse opening conversations for buddies in the "unknown" status? 22:10:16 <flo-retina> I see no reason why we wouldn't attempt to send messages to someone who hasn't added us yet to his blist 22:10:20 <flo-retina> s/blist/roster/ 22:10:40 <aleth> My point is that the status *should* be unknown, if we then generally allow opening a conversation that's OK. 22:10:56 <aleth> The bug is that you can open a conversation and the status is available. 22:10:58 <flo-retina> so I agree that the status should be unknown :) 22:11:18 <aleth> Sorry about the confusion 22:11:25 <flo-retina> and the error message we received should possibly be shown in the tooltip 22:11:54 <flo-retina> I think there's a "Subscription:" line that appears only when the value isn't "both" 22:13:21 <flo-retina> aleth: I don't see where in that patch you are setting the status to unknown (as opposed to offline) 22:14:01 <aleth> It happens because there is a further type==unavailable check further down in the existing code. 22:15:16 <aleth> I just tried and it's possible to open conversations with status=unknown contacts 22:16:29 <flo-retina> ok... 22:16:33 <-- Rym has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 22:16:37 <aleth> flo-retina: http://dxr.mozilla.org/comm-central/source/chat/protocols/xmpp/xmpp.jsm#582 22:16:50 <flo-retina> I don't think I can finish the review now, my mind isn't clear enough :-/ 22:17:08 <flo-retina> aleth: ah, right 22:17:24 <aleth> There's certainly room for improvement, these patches just fix the worst of it ;) 22:17:53 --> nhnt11 has joined #instantbird 22:18:14 <aleth> I wanted to get to the point where we could land webrtc without constant breakage 22:18:33 <flo-retina> are you no longer ignoring typing notification errors? :-S 22:18:52 <aleth> no, that's not changed. 22:18:56 <flo-retina> is that bug related to webrt? O_o 22:18:59 <aleth> It's an else if 22:19:16 <flo-retina> aleth: I see if (type == "error") { this.createConversation ... 22:19:23 <flo-retina> isn't that going to open a conversation? 22:19:51 <aleth> flo-retina: It's related in that I discovered it trying to test webrtc patches 22:20:24 <aleth> flo-retina: Are you looking at the latest patch? 22:20:35 <flo-retina> I'm looking at https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/page.cgi?id=splinter.html&bug=1085022&attachment=8507525 22:20:51 <aleth> That seems to have an else if to me 22:21:05 <aleth> Line 1020 22:21:36 <flo-retina> yes, and? 22:21:48 <aleth> Bah, you're right. 22:21:54 --> Rym has joined #instantbird 22:21:56 <aleth> :) 22:22:12 <aleth> The "Ignore errors..." block is still needed 22:22:18 <flo-retina> ah! 22:23:17 <flo-retina> clokep: why did you point me to http://dxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/browser/extensions/pdfjs/content/build/pdf.worker.js#31447 ? 22:24:35 <clokep> flo-retina: Just out Ascii85 coonversation. 22:24:42 <flo-retina> ah! 22:25:02 <flo-retina> so we don't have to write that ourselves! Cool :) 22:25:46 <clokep> Maybe, yes. 22:26:26 <aleth> flo-retina: Similarly the qName bug isn't really related to webrtc, but it does mean that getElement calls fail when they shouldn't, leading to spurious errors. JS-XMPP just isn't super mature yet... 22:27:08 <flo-retina> aleth: I'm not worried by the patch in that qName bug, but do you have context for when it's happening? 22:28:05 <aleth> I get it a number of times on connection, I've already dropped the logs for what stanzas exactly though 22:28:37 <flo-retina> ok... I must have missed that then :) 22:28:53 <flo-retina> sorry for the idl typos 22:28:56 <aleth> It's server dependent. My test account doesn't have it 22:30:15 * aleth suspects you all test with gtalk and that's why he sees differentthings 22:30:20 <flo-retina> should I try to have a look at the frontend webrtc patch during the flight? 22:30:30 * flo-retina doesn't know how ready for review it is 22:30:38 <aleth> well, it's better than it was... 22:30:46 <flo-retina> aleth: JS-XMPP isn't enabled for generic XMPP (yet) 22:30:55 <aleth> flo-retina: I have it enabled though 22:31:04 <aleth> dogfooding! 22:31:08 <flo-retina> I guessed that ;) 22:32:05 <aleth> The end call button CSS is the most obviously doubtful thing in the frontend patch 22:33:07 <aleth> But every time I looked at it I found things to clean up ;) 22:34:02 --> Rym_ has joined #instantbird 22:34:16 <-- flo-retina has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.6a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 22:35:19 <aleth> clokep: Where does ascii85 show up? 22:35:20 <-- Rym has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 22:35:54 <clokep> aleth: It was a discussion of how we could send SDPs for IRC. 22:39:02 <clokep> aleth: flo and I discussed taking the SDP, zipping it, encoding it into ASCII using Ascii85, then sending it in chunks. 22:39:20 <aleth> Neat idea. 22:39:28 <aleth> I guess it's too long otherwise? 22:39:47 --> Widdershins has joined #instantbird 22:41:24 <aleth> I would have thought sending each SDP line in a message would work too 22:42:03 <aleth> but I guess that's not as efficient. 22:46:35 <clokep> aleth: We're concerned about being kicked for flooding. 22:46:46 <clokep> I don't suppose you remember if there are any settings or specs about that? 22:48:14 <aleth> All I remember is the +f channel mode 22:48:33 <aleth> That has some complicated parameters. 22:49:28 <aleth> I suppose the problem here is more server-internal settings 22:49:31 --> mconley has joined #instantbird 22:50:31 <aleth> Oh, and there is iSUPPORT FLOOD 22:52:15 <aleth> seems pretty nonstandard 22:52:47 <clokep> aleth: Also...this owuldn't be in a channel, it's a private message. 22:54:12 <aleth> Right, so none of the things I can think of are relevant. 22:55:26 <nhnt11> What if we wait for the other user to ack after every line? ;) 22:55:29 <nhnt11> scnr 22:55:49 <clokep> aleth: It was also up to debate how long we can send each line, but yeah... 22:56:05 <clokep> (Many of the SDP lines are *SHORT*, it'd make sense to combine some...) 22:57:18 <aleth> nhnt11: We could just add a dialog where the user can paste the SDP, a bit like how you paste Loop URLs ;) 22:59:21 <nhnt11> heh 23:03:35 <clokep> :-D 23:03:46 <clokep> I'd liek it if the other end didn't support WebRTC if you could send a link.. 23:06:41 <clokep> Someone at the summit asked if we would release an RFC on it... 23:12:41 <-- Suiseiseki has quit (Connection closed) 23:13:19 --> Suiseiseki has joined #instantbird 23:20:01 <aleth> Makes sense. 23:22:51 --> nhnt12 has joined #instantbird 23:23:22 <-- nhnt11 has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 23:26:41 <-- Armada has quit (Connection closed) 23:44:55 <-- nhnt12 has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds)