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08:19:40 <-- Tonnes has quit (Connection reset by peer) 08:20:13 --> Tonnes has joined #instantbird 08:20:56 --> BWMerlin has joined #instantbird 08:22:27 --> Tonnes_ has joined #instantbird 08:22:39 <-- Tonnes has quit (Connection reset by peer) 08:22:45 * Tonnes_ is now known as Tonnes 08:47:32 --> Rym has joined #instantbird 08:49:39 <-- Rym has quit (Ping timeout) 09:04:21 <nhnt11> Usul: Do you mean in the buddy list window? 09:04:28 <nhnt11> If so, right click->Hide offline contacts 09:04:42 <nhnt11> Umm, Untick "Show offline contacts" rather. 09:05:48 <Usul> ok 09:05:50 <Usul> ta 09:08:12 <-- chrisccoulson has quit (Quit: OSError: [Errno 130] Owner died) 09:08:30 --> chrisccoulson has joined #instantbird 09:15:51 <-- flo-retina has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.6a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 09:41:40 --> Rym has joined #instantbird 09:42:58 --> Armada has joined #instantbird 09:43:12 --> flo-retina has joined #instantbird 09:43:12 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo-retina flo-retina 09:43:47 <-- Rym has quit (Ping timeout) 10:03:38 * Fallen is now known as Fallen|away 10:16:27 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 10:16:27 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep 10:24:56 <-- Usul has left #instantbird () 10:35:51 --> Rym has joined #instantbird 10:37:55 <-- Rym has quit (Ping timeout) 10:44:01 * Fallen|away is now known as Fallen 10:53:51 <-- clokep has quit (Ping timeout) 11:04:10 --> mpmc has joined #instantbird 11:07:21 --> Rym has joined #instantbird 11:11:09 <-- Rym has quit (Ping timeout) 11:19:47 <instantbot> New Instantbird - Conversation bug 1069253 filed by archaeopteryx@coole-files.de. 11:19:48 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1069253 nor, --, ---, archaeopteryx, ASSI, twice 'let text' in inputKeyPress 11:23:25 <flo-retina> want me to r- or are you already on it? :) 11:35:56 <-- BWMerlin has quit (Quit: BWMerlin) 11:56:03 --> A84 has joined #instantbird 11:56:35 <-- A84 has left #instantbird () 12:03:21 --> Rym has joined #instantbird 12:03:48 <-- nhnt11 has quit (Ping timeout) 12:04:39 --> nhnt11 has joined #instantbird 12:05:23 <-- Rym has quit (Ping timeout) 12:17:11 --> sherief has joined #instantbird 12:30:33 --> clokep_work has joined #instantbird 12:30:33 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep_work 12:35:41 <clokep_work> flo-retina: Uhh...why is that an r-? 12:35:47 <clokep_work> So you should probably r- if you think it is. 12:36:55 * Fallen is now known as Fallen|away 12:51:58 <flo-retina> clokep_work: it's not in the same scope 12:52:05 <flo-retina> clokep_work: it's even in a different function 12:53:51 <-- nhnt11 has quit (Ping timeout) 12:54:22 <clokep_work> Ah, true. 12:54:33 <clokep_work> I thought the one scope was in a sub-scope of the other. 12:54:37 <clokep_work> But that should still work fine. 12:54:58 <flo-retina> removing the second let creates a refererence to the first variable. 12:54:59 <clokep_work> I need some caffeine. :P 12:55:05 --> nhnt11 has joined #instantbird 12:55:09 <flo-retina> If we have the second let, the first variable will be GC'ed 12:57:26 --> Rym has joined #instantbird 12:59:27 <-- Rym has quit (Ping timeout) 12:59:45 <-- sonny has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.5 -- http://www.instantbird.com) 13:00:36 <clokep_work> Yeah. 13:00:40 <clokep_work> OK. 13:36:32 <-- Suiseiseki has quit (Connection reset by peer) 13:37:22 --> Suiseiseki has joined #instantbird 13:44:32 <-- Suiseiseki has quit (Ping timeout) 13:51:37 --> Rym has joined #instantbird 13:53:38 <-- Rym has quit (Ping timeout) 14:02:15 --> Suiseiseki has joined #instantbird 14:21:32 --> Rym has joined #instantbird 14:21:54 * Fallen|away is now known as Fallen 14:24:26 <-- Rym has quit (Ping timeout) 14:42:12 <-- mpmc has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.6a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 14:48:17 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 14:48:17 * ChanServ sets mode +o aleth 14:48:50 --> mconley_ has joined #instantbird 15:07:00 --> Rym has joined #instantbird 15:09:02 <-- Rym has quit (Ping timeout) 15:21:55 <-- Armada has quit (Ping timeout) 15:26:56 <aleth> So what needs doing for releases to be able to happen? Do we have an etherpad for that yet? 15:28:27 <aleth> Or is it only a matter of setting up more minis and buildbot configs that we can't really help with? 15:31:13 <flo-retina> note: we currently aren't even able to build on Windows ;) 15:31:54 <aleth> well, that's just a normal kind of blocker ;) 15:32:14 <flo-retina> I don't think we currently have an actionable plan 15:32:23 <flo-retina> we have a reasonable idea and a general plan 15:32:35 <flo-retina> but we didn't break it down into individual actions that need to happen 15:32:38 <aleth> That's what I remembered too 15:33:12 <-- gerard-majax has quit (Ping timeout) 15:33:16 <flo-retina> I don't think I'll setup many more minis before december 15:34:06 <aleth> Maybe you can pick up a splitter in Toronto at least ;) 15:34:13 <flo-retina> I did 15:34:16 <flo-retina> I took 2 15:34:42 <flo-retina> but I'm kinda hoping to finish my office upstairs before setting up all the machines 15:34:43 <aleth> Great, so the hardware is present :) 15:34:51 <aleth> makes sense... 15:34:55 <flo-retina> ie. these machines need to be "somewhere" 15:35:01 <flo-retina> and preferably not on the sofa ;) 15:35:36 <flo-retina> I would probably need to invest in a switch 15:35:49 <flo-retina> although there are probably at least 2 more free ports on the current router 15:37:37 --> iamjayakumars has joined #instantbird 15:38:03 * aleth wonders if you could use two routers in series as a stopgap 15:38:41 <aleth> No idea if that would work at all... 15:39:41 <aleth> Seems unlikely. 15:40:09 <flo-retina> that's probably what I already have 15:40:10 <clokep_work> aleth: You can do that, yes. 15:40:16 <clokep_work> Especially if you configure one as a switch. ;) 15:40:18 <clokep_work> That's what I do. 15:40:22 <flo-retina> and I think that would work, and I possibly even have enough free ports if I plug some minis to both 15:40:44 * flo-retina needs to figure out what his network looks like 15:40:53 <flo-retina> I have at least 3 different wifis enabled 15:41:01 <aleth> clokep_work: heh, if you can configure it as a switch, then sure :) 15:41:05 --> Bollebib has joined #instantbird 15:42:48 <clokep_work> aleth: Regardless you could put them on different subnets and that will work too. 15:43:13 <flo-retina> aleth: I don't think there's a real hardware blocker 15:43:35 <-- aleth has quit (Ping timeout) 15:43:38 <flo-retina> aleth: it's just that there's already enough electronic stuff on that poor small IKEA book case that I don't feel like adding more now :-/ 15:44:07 <flo-retina> probably a lame excuse :-| 15:48:03 <-- mconley_ has quit (Input/output error) 15:52:19 --> mpmc has joined #instantbird 16:01:05 <-- mpmc has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.6a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 16:01:08 --> Rym has joined #instantbird 16:03:17 * Fallen is now known as Fallen|away 16:03:22 <-- Rym has quit (Ping timeout) 16:05:18 --> mconley__ has joined #instantbird 16:09:27 --> gerard-majax has joined #instantbird 16:17:30 * mconley__ is now known as mconley_ 16:20:00 --> Rym has joined #instantbird 16:27:25 <-- gerard-majax has quit (Ping timeout) 16:35:52 --> Mook_as has joined #instantbird 16:42:49 --> gerard-majax has joined #instantbird 16:46:15 <-- iamjayakumars has quit (Quit: ) 16:47:15 <-- clokep_work has quit (Ping timeout) 16:50:41 <sherief> flo-retina: hey, what does this line mean https://hg.instantbird.org/l10n/en-US/file/b5fd4cf6f49e/instantbird/installer/override.properties#l75 16:50:52 <sherief> exactly "OLE" 16:55:56 <-- gerard-majax has quit (Ping timeout) 17:01:18 <flo-retina> sherief: no idea, but it also exists identically in Firefox, so I guess you can just copy/paste :) 17:01:28 <flo-retina> most of the strings in that file are probably shared with Firefox/Thunderbird 17:02:10 <sherief> I doubt I can even trigger that to know what exactly it is :) 17:02:48 <sherief> flo-retina: I am almost done translating files, I would really like next to check them on a live installation 17:03:00 <flo-retina> I don't even see where it's used :-S 17:03:38 <sherief> no issue, I'll just leave it like that 17:05:09 <flo-retina> http://hg.instantbird.org/l10n/locales-status.html#ar still shows quite a few missing strings 17:05:22 <flo-retina> or maybe you are almost done locally but haven't pushed yet? 17:07:57 --> myk has joined #instantbird 17:08:35 <-- myk has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.6a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 17:08:40 --> myk has joined #instantbird 17:08:55 <myk> it happened again! 17:10:48 <myk> but i can still recover the windows by clicking the dock icon; so it is truly a minor issue with a trivial workaround 17:22:42 <flo-retina> It would still be nice to know what's causing this :) 17:22:55 <Mook_as> Given where it is, the NoOLE string is probably something Windows-specific and completely obsolete 17:23:21 <flo-retina> Mook_as: right, nothing seems to use it 17:25:44 <flo-retina> It apparently landed in bug 340173 17:25:46 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=340173 maj, --, Firefox 2 beta1, robert.strong.bugs, RESO FIXED, Rework l10n part of NSIS installer 17:27:07 <flo-retina> part of https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=226557&action=diff 17:31:26 <Mook_as> oh, and to answer the original question: "Object linking and embedding" 17:42:51 <myk> flo-retina: yes; it's certainly confusing until you find your way around it; for weeks, i was quitting and restarting to work around it 17:43:17 <flo-retina> what confuses me is that I see nothing obviously related in the Firefox code that would prevent this 17:53:13 --> gerard-majax has joined #instantbird 17:59:58 <qheaden> Hello everyone! 18:00:50 --> Armada has joined #instantbird 18:04:47 <-- Armada has quit (Ping timeout) 18:19:29 --> Alexander84 has joined #instantbird 18:19:32 <Alexander84> hell yeah :) 18:19:50 <Alexander84> still alive, still online 18:21:29 <Alexander84> flo-retina: about irc userlist sorting: http://puu.sh/bEguM/3ce17fd881.png i believe this way it fits most needs, do you agree? 18:22:53 <flo-retina> no :) 18:23:04 <flo-retina> that's something for add-ons, not for built-in customization options 18:24:40 <Alexander84> addons, yes. modular paradise of modern developers 18:25:02 <Alexander84> build skeleton and let community put flesh on it 18:25:11 <flo-retina> the Z-A option seems kinda ridiculous btw :) 18:25:21 * flo-retina wonders what use case it's supposed to address 18:27:28 <Alexander84> flo-retina: this is how current addons section of my thunderbird looks http://puu.sh/bEhQX/9fe5bf37cd.png + http://puu.sh/bEhVA/6e4d9138ce.png 18:28:29 <Alexander84> flo-retina: not to say how many settings changed via config editor 18:28:40 <Alexander84> flo-retina: took, i don't know, 2-3 days to set it almost right 18:29:32 <Alexander84> flo-retina: and scared to death to lost it even with profile being backed up once a day. point is - complicated to death. 18:30:43 <Alexander84> no wonder new mail clients still appear around the globe. like getmailbird.com or mailpile.is 18:33:48 * Fallen|away is now known as Fallen 18:34:31 <Alexander84> so the routine is "in earlier times (like XP) I used software X to do the job, now it's abandoned, not supported by OS, looks ugly, etc, let's see if there's good replacement. ok, installed. how to get (feature name like userlist sorting)? it's not here, huh? let's check docs... no, it's not built-in, it maybe supported by addon someday" 18:36:03 <Alexander84> flo-retina: i read your profile on site, it says you're about psychology, so you could understand terms for this situation like "frustration" and "learned helplessness" 18:39:44 <-- flo-retina has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.6a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 18:40:14 <-- gerard-majax has quit (Ping timeout) 18:46:07 <-- Alexander84 has quit (Quit: --. --- --- -.. -... -.-- . .-.-.-) 18:50:48 --> rosonline has joined #instantbird 18:51:29 --> Alexander84 has joined #instantbird 19:07:35 <-- nhnt11 has quit (Ping timeout) 19:11:53 --> sonny has joined #instantbird 19:30:39 --> mpmc has joined #instantbird 19:40:06 <-- mpmc has quit (Ping timeout) 19:41:05 --> mpmc has joined #instantbird 20:22:46 <-- Alexander84 has left #instantbird (--. --- --- -.. -... -.-- . .-.-.-) 20:23:27 --> flo-retina has joined #instantbird 20:23:27 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo-retina flo-retina 20:32:23 --> EionRobb has joined #instantbird 20:45:20 <-- mconley_ has quit (Input/output error) 20:50:54 --> mconley_ has joined #instantbird 21:46:11 <-- chrisccoulson has quit (Quit: OSError: [Errno 130] Owner died) 21:57:37 <-- Tonnes has quit (Connection reset by peer) 21:58:10 --> Tonnes has joined #instantbird 22:00:59 <-- Tonnes has quit (Connection reset by peer) 22:01:21 --> Tonnes has joined #instantbird 22:01:39 <-- mpmc has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.6a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 22:14:14 <-- Bollebib has quit (Client exited) 22:14:19 <-- sonny has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.5 -- http://www.instantbird.com) 22:30:48 --> Alexander84 has joined #instantbird 22:31:38 <Alexander84> flo-retina: oh, you're back. have you read and seen screenshots before leaving? 22:33:03 * flo-retina did 22:34:23 <Alexander84> flo-retina: good, as second screenshot had my e-mail disclosed, now i can remove it 22:35:33 <-- Alexander84 has quit (Quit: --. --- --- -.. -... -.-- . .-.-.-) 22:36:49 --> Alexander84 has joined #instantbird 22:37:19 <Alexander84> EionRobb: hello :) 22:37:26 <EionRobb> ohai 22:37:41 <Alexander84> EionRobb: found couple of articles you could be interested in 22:37:48 <Alexander84> EionRobb: they relate to your paradise island 22:38:06 <Alexander84> EionRobb: https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2014/09/15/new-zealand-gcsb-speargun-mass-surveillance/ and https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2014/09/15/snowden-new-zealand-surveillance/ 22:38:11 <EionRobb> wasn't that a tv series starting malcom macdowell making peoples dreams come true? 22:38:18 <Alexander84> EionRobb: :))) 22:38:30 <EionRobb> oh yeah, that's been all over the media here leading up to tomorrows elections 22:39:03 <Alexander84> EionRobb: big brother in NZ, damn 22:40:16 <Alexander84> EionRobb: elections in NZ? head of Scotland plebiscite only 22:40:19 <Alexander84> *heard 23:01:56 --> nhnt11 has joined #instantbird 23:08:24 <-- myk has quit (Ping timeout) 23:31:05 * Fallen is now known as Fallen|away 23:38:39 <-- Tonnes has quit (Connection reset by peer) 23:39:13 --> Tonnes has joined #instantbird 23:43:45 --> myk has joined #instantbird 23:45:37 --> mconley__ has joined #instantbird 23:46:11 <-- mconley_ has quit (Ping timeout) 23:46:42 <-- myk has quit (Ping timeout) 23:47:36 --> myk has joined #instantbird