#instantbird log on 05 13 2014

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00:09:27 * clokep sighs.
00:09:35 <clokep> I just spent 20 minutes on a simple bustage from bug 1002621. :(
00:09:38 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1002621 nor, --, Thunderbird 32.0, aleth, RESO FIXED, Unfork buddytooltip.xml
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00:31:59 <clokep> Mook_as: Any ideas? http://pastebin.instantbird.com/705683 :-S
00:33:53 <Mook_as> I take it that plugin-container doesn't actually exist?
00:39:55 <clokep> It does not.
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00:42:15 <clokep> Everything about that seems to be in mozapp though, i.e. we should pick up changes magically. :-\
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02:11:45 <instant-buildbot> build #1370 of win32-nightly-default is complete: Failure [4failed compile]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/win32-nightly-default/builds/1370
02:32:04 <instant-buildbot> build #2142 of macosx-nightly-default is complete: Failure [4failed compile]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/macosx-nightly-default/builds/2142
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04:46:07 <sawrubh> clokep : I took a look at how to implement drag and drop and how to integrate FileLinks
04:47:59 <sawrubh> clokep : I'll start writing that today and then probably give the two XMPP bugs we decided to work on a try
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05:21:05 <sawrubh> flo-retina: have you pushed that fix for the bustage in purplexpcom yesterday?
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06:18:25 <mayanktg> Hello
06:18:53 <mayanktg> http://i.imgur.com/GDFkIOM.png
06:18:53 <mayanktg> http://i.imgur.com/6n1Wqtf.png :)
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07:21:57 <flo-retina> clokep: plugin-container is this line in package-manifest: http://mxr.mozilla.org/comm-central/source/im/installer/package-manifest.in#94
07:22:01 <flo-retina> btw, I've just seen the top left quarter of the throbber after a restart
07:22:16 <flo-retina> so what I said yesterday about the bug happening only when reconnecting in an existing window was wrong
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09:52:09 <alexis> Hello !
09:52:09 <alexis> I've a trouble with instantbird, not sure what's the reason.
09:52:09 <alexis> I just added a new account there, to my irc bouncer. In order to do that I need to go tweak the values with the config editor, so that the bouncer is sent a password and identifier.
09:52:09 <alexis> That seems to be working, and I'm connected, but when I go to the list of accounts, it tells me it's empty.
09:52:09 <alexis> (and propose me to add a new one)
09:52:10 <alexis> the thing is that I'm connected to 6 different accounts, so that shouldn't tell me that.
09:52:43 <alexis> version 1.6a1pre (20140303041310)
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10:15:09 <clokep> flo-retina: Did plugin-container go away though? I mean I know I can just remove it from the manifest but...
10:15:39 <clokep> alexis: Are there errors in the error console?
10:15:47 <clokep> And you're on Windows or Linux?
10:18:05 <sawrubh> clokep: hey
10:18:18 <clokep> sawrubh: hello.
10:19:06 <sawrubh> clokep: so in bug 998609, the libpurple code sets the topic as soon as it sees a subject in the xml stanza
10:19:10 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=998609 enh, --, ---, saurabhanandiit, NEW, Support topics in XMPP MUCs
10:19:30 <sawrubh> so to match that, we should move the setting the topic part in your patch above the handling the message
10:19:47 <clokep> sawrubh: Isn't that exactly what Florian's coment says? ;)
10:19:48 * sawrubh wonders why is flo wondering if this is correct or not
10:20:03 <sawrubh> but flo says he's not sure if this is to be done
10:20:47 <clokep> Whatever.
10:20:56 <clokep> Please make it match.
10:21:50 <clokep> sawrubh: Btw I'll ensure it works on the server I use before we commit it. :)
10:21:55 <clokep> So just check on whatever servers you use.
10:23:47 <sawrubh> I'm not sure how to test this, how to setup a server which allows MUC and custom messages (and allows me to inspect me what those messages look like)
10:24:36 <sawrubh> clokep: which server are you using?
10:25:07 <clokep> sawrubh: Please DON'T set up a server! Just use a public server that's available.
10:25:23 <clokep> sawrubh: I join devel@conference.pidgin.im with a jabber.org account.
10:26:43 * sawrubh goes and creates a jabber account :)
10:27:08 <sawrubh> ..and account registrations are disabled
10:28:44 <clokep> :P You might be able to use a gtalk account, Idk.
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10:32:25 <alexis> clokep: linux. Let me see in the error console.
10:32:39 <clokep> The last Linux build has a bunch of funky things in it, I think.
10:34:10 <alexis> Timestamp: 13/05/2014 12:33:02
10:34:11 <alexis> Error: TypeError: this.contact is undefined
10:34:11 <alexis> Source File: chrome://instantbird/content/contact.xml
10:34:11 <alexis> Line: 349
10:34:23 <alexis> clokep: so should I backup to a different version?
10:34:25 <clokep> alexis: Yes, that's one of the issues I know exists in that build. That's been fixed.
10:34:30 <clokep> alexis: Probably. :-\
10:34:40 <clokep> Hopefully we'll have Linux builds again soon. . .
10:34:54 <clokep> sawrubh: So What does working on integrating filelink and workking on drag and drop mean? :)
10:35:04 <alexis> clokep: oh, so if I compile it that should work for me?
10:35:08 <clokep> alexis: Yes.
10:35:14 <alexis> okay, let's try that
10:35:21 <clokep> sawrubh: Please ensure you ask questions, don't spend hours stuck on things.
10:35:54 <alexis> I wanted to provide a machine to have linux builds, but I never did.
10:36:34 <sawrubh> clokep: so I started by taking a look at previous year's repo to maybe gain something, but I found it confusing (between the BugZilla bugs and patches and the BitBucket commits), so I have a feeling that won't be much helpful
10:37:14 <alexis> is there somewhere a set of simple instructions to follow in order to compile instantbird?
10:37:28 <alexis> the docs I'm reading are pointing to another set of documents.
10:37:30 <aleth> alexis: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Simple_Instantbird_build
10:37:46 <sawrubh> clokep: then I took a look at components/cloudfile part but from my understanding it provides a way for people to create and register a new FileLink provider so that users can use it
10:37:49 <alexis> perfect, thanks aleth
10:38:08 <aleth> The "simple" is a bit of an euphemism for newbies though ;)
10:38:19 <aleth> Due to the c-c/m-c repo structure.
10:38:48 <clokep> sawrubh: That's fine, I wouldn't suggest using code from last year.
10:39:02 <sawrubh> clokep: so then I started searching around in the TB code for parts which actually somehow initiate an instance of the FileLink window (but couldn't find it successfully)
10:39:28 <clokep> sawrubh: So components/cloudfile will just need to be compiled, we shouldn't need to modify it (much).
10:40:11 <clokep> sawrubh: I assume addAccountDialog is how accounts are added: https://mxr.mozilla.org/comm-central/source/mail/components/cloudfile/content/
10:40:18 <sawrubh> clokep: then I tried to figure out where is the debug log (for that other bug aleth cc'ed me on), but didn't ask it (to not appear a total noob) but turned out to be a bad decision
10:41:22 <clokep> sawrubh: And https://mxr.mozilla.org/comm-central/source/mail/components/compose/content/bigFileObserver.js looks like it might be how we check if we should use filelink or not.
10:41:31 <clokep> sawrubh: Ah, did you get your question answered about that one? Which bug is this btw?
10:41:41 * clokep can't keep track of all this. :-[
10:42:17 <sawrubh> clokep: bug 999677
10:42:20 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=999677 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Errors when deleting a buddy with whom a conversation is open.
10:42:26 <clokep> Ah, OK. :)
10:42:34 <clokep> Those errors should be in the error console.
10:42:38 <clokep> Tools > Error console
10:42:39 <aleth> sawrubh: Go to the account manager, right-click on the account you need a debug log for
10:43:19 <aleth> There's a pref you can change to set how many messages it includes
10:43:45 <sawrubh> aleth: I'll take a look
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10:44:15 <aleth> The errors from the error console won't usually appear there. The debug log is a log of what is sent and received
10:44:58 <clokep> They might if they're caught properly, They do for IRC IIRC.
10:45:16 <clokep> aleth: Did you see that r? I sent your way? I'm unsure if just removing status.css is the right thing to do there or not.
10:45:22 <aleth> Sure, I just don't think sawrubh should rely on it for XMPP ;)
10:45:30 <aleth> IRC has had much more TLC
10:45:34 <clokep> Maybe he should fix that. :-D
10:45:55 <clokep> It's actually kind of bad technique for what we did in IRC though.
10:46:05 <clokep> We essentially have one try-catch over everything...
10:46:29 <aleth> We do forward the errors these days though.
10:46:52 * sawrubh wonders when that purplexpcom bustage is gonna be fixed
10:47:02 <aleth> What bustage?
10:47:57 <aleth> clokep: Thanks for spotting that! I'm sorry I missed a jar.mn in all those changes.
10:48:11 <sawrubh> aleth: gimme a sec, pastebinning it
10:48:32 <clokep> sawrubh: I think Florian expected you to fix it. ;)
10:48:37 <clokep> Didn't he give you the fix?
10:48:52 <clokep> aleth: No problem. I was really confused. :(
10:49:01 <sawrubh> that adding I to it didn't fix it
10:49:14 <sawrubh> I mean making purpleProxy to purpleIProxy I guess
10:49:26 <clokep> OK. :) That's the kind of thing you have to tell us!
10:49:40 <clokep> I assumed that you had been able to move on from there.
10:50:00 <sawrubh> wow, this 15 min of talk was more productive than my yesterday evening :P
10:50:37 <aleth> It's never a good idea to just stare at things when you are stuck ;)
10:50:39 <clokep> Want to fix my bustage too while you're at it? :P
10:51:03 <sawrubh> clokep: which one :) 
10:51:54 <clokep> sawrubh: The plugin-container one (when doing make package on windows)
10:51:59 <clokep> I don't know if it's "real" or just my system yet
10:52:48 <sawrubh> aleth: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/5146254
10:53:20 <clokep> sawrubh: What was the actual diff you tried?
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11:00:20 <sawrubh> clokep : http://pastebin.mozilla.org/5146280
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11:12:18 <sawrubh> aleth: so what's the workflow for local changes you make for fixing things (like not building qq, or changes to fix a bustage) but don't wanna push?
11:12:35 <aleth> sawrubh: Mercurial queues!
11:12:42 <sawrubh> aleth: do you simply create a new mq, make those changes and then qfinish it or do you leave those files modified
11:13:21 <aleth> sawrubh: Generally you have all your patches in your mq and qpush/qpop them as needed.
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11:13:45 <aleth> That way you can qpop them all when you want to update the repo.
11:14:04 <aleth> To attach them to a bug, you can use hg export or hg bzexport if you prefer.
11:14:43 <aleth> Unless you can land patches yourself, I would avoid qfinish and just wait for the landed patches to be fetched along with other upstream changes.
11:15:42 <sawrubh> hmm
11:16:41 <aleth> Personally I also have a local clone of the whole repo, for when too many patches depend on each other. But you can also have multiple mq's (never looked into that myself)
11:18:09 <sawrubh> aleth: but this way, you'll need to remember to always qpush that "don't-build-qq" mq after you update your repo?
11:18:46 <aleth> purplexpcom doesn't get updated very often, so it's not a huge pain. Also we should fix that qq issue one way or another ;)
11:19:02 <sawrubh> +1 for the latter :D
11:19:13 <aleth> The problem is the qq plugin is broken upstream.
11:19:26 <aleth> But clokep may have found a replacement (?)
11:19:40 <sawrubh> js-qq :P
11:19:59 <aleth> feel free to take care of that after gsoc ;)
11:22:51 <sawrubh> flo-retina: btw that change purpleProxy to purpleIProxy didn't fix the bustage, it's complaining about purpleIProxy not having the Init method and AppendObject expecting a purpleProxy etc (although you might know that from the backlog ;) )
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11:44:53 * clokep_work wonders what that bustage was from. :-S
11:47:31 <clokep_work> sawrubh: So, you're stuck on this bustage, is that right?
11:47:37 <clokep_work> flo-retina: ^
11:47:50 <sawrubh> yep
11:48:04 <clokep_work> (flo-retina I'd also appreciate if you could take a look at http://log.bezut.info/instantbird/today/#m4)
11:48:18 <clokep_work> I need to go soon (after answering all my emails...), unfortunatel.y
11:56:56 <sawrubh> clokep_work: flo-retina so if we're to exactly match the js-xmpp implementation with that of libpurple, I can't figure out what would be the equivalent of the check jm->xhtml here : http://lxr.instantbird.org/instantbird/source/purple/libpurple/protocols/jabber/message.c#250
11:58:33 <sawrubh> I can check for jm->body using the simple check for the body defined in http://mxr.mozilla.org/comm-central/source/chat/protocols/xmpp/xmpp.jsm#889
11:58:44 * clokep_work finds bug 946065 interesting...
11:58:46 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=946065 nor, --, ---, birunthan, ASSI, Move content/ to dom/
11:59:48 <sawrubh> clokep_work: flo-retina would checking for http://mxr.mozilla.org/comm-central/source/chat/protocols/xmpp/xmpp.jsm#877 be equivalent to jm->xhtml?
12:00:01 <clokep_work> sawrubh: I have no idea what jm->xhtml is.
12:00:14 <clokep_work> But my guess is that it's that cehck, yes.
12:01:16 <clokep_work> sawrubh: It looks like it, I see a lot of isntances of "use jm->xhtml if jm->xhtml is defined, otherwise use jm->body"
12:01:28 <sawrubh> clokep_work: jm->html is a check on http://lxr.instantbird.org/instantbird/source/purple/libpurple/protocols/jabber/message.c#250 (jm is http://lxr.instantbird.org/instantbird/source/purple/libpurple/protocols/jabber/message.h#51)
12:01:56 <clokep_work> sawrubh: Sure, but that JabberMessage has no comments. :P Thanks libpurple!
12:02:34 <sawrubh> heh
12:03:01 <clokep_work> sawrubh: I think your intuition is right though and the check for html is the way to do it.
12:03:38 * sawrubh heads on to finding the equivalent of the (commentless) serv_got_chat_in :P
12:03:47 <sawrubh> this is like a game of hide and seek
12:04:58 <clokep_work> It's probably just getting the conversation.
12:05:05 <clokep_work> I wouldn't suggest trying to do a line by line translation.
12:05:17 <clokep_work> I'd suggest getting the gist of what libpurple is doing and then redoing it in Instantbird. :)
12:05:42 <sawrubh> ok
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12:09:13 <clokep_work> sawrubh: Mostly what I mean by that is "don't spend too much time trying to figure out libpurple's insane APIs" ;)
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12:12:13 <clokep_work> aleth: Why would that icon thing only happen sometimes?
12:12:42 <aleth> clokep_work: I don't know. But the size of it suggests a retina icon issue.
12:13:11 <aleth> I do have a followup which may also be part of it, but I don't think it explains the size issue.
12:13:45 <clokep_work> Hm. OK. :-\
12:13:55 <clokep_work> If you want us to try it...lemme know.
12:14:22 <aleth> I certainly can't reproduce.
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12:18:03 <flo-retina> aleth: I can confirm the issue is retina only
12:18:13 <flo-retina> aleth: for some reason I have one channel stuck with the throbber
12:18:26 <flo-retina> and when I move the window to the non-retina external screen, the throbber looks OK.
12:18:28 <aleth> flo-retina: Can you DOM-inspect the CSS to see what is going on?
12:18:58 <flo-retina> aleth: no DOM inspector on my default profile I'm afraid :-/
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12:20:02 <flo-retina> aleth: ah, the issue is actually easy to reproduce: just attempt to join a password protected channel without password. That tab will have the throbber forever
12:20:12 <flo-retina> (which is likely another bug, but useful to debug the first one :))
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12:22:51 <clokep_work> flo-retina: I don't think the throbber there is a bug actually. :) I kind of like it!
12:23:14 <aleth> Yeah, in that case it makes sense I think.
12:23:28 <aleth> You have not joined until you provide the password, after all ;)
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12:24:22 <flo-retina> clokep_work: I think the throbber doesn't make much sense when the tab won't ever connect
12:24:29 <flo-retina> clokep_work: an error icon would be better
12:24:44 <flo-retina> clokep_work: but even if we keep the throbber, once I set the status of the account to offline, the throbber feels wrong
12:25:04 <clokep_work> flo-retina: Or maybe a ? with a prompt on it to enter a password? ;)
12:25:06 <aleth> For that part I have a fix in mq queue
12:25:14 <flo-retina> clokep_work: well, yeah...
12:25:21 <flo-retina> clokep_work: or making the auto-join dialog save the password
12:25:31 <flo-retina> clokep_work: or getting rid of the join chat dialog altogether
12:25:31 <aleth> Too many different icons in the tab seems wrong. If it's an error situation we should have an error page like FX.
12:25:33 <flo-retina> or whatever
12:25:36 <clokep_work> flo-retina: Well that's a different bug. ;)
12:25:45 <flo-retina> clokep_work: I'm pretty sure I mentioned the bug that caused the purplexpcom bustage yesterday.
12:25:48 <aleth> Dialogs are a bug ;)
12:26:08 * aleth wonders why sawrubh is using a debug build
12:26:19 <flo-retina> because they are useful for debugging? :-P
12:26:48 <aleth> I wonder /what/ he is debugging :P
12:26:59 <flo-retina> qq? :-P
12:27:02 <sawrubh> the debug log!
12:27:05 <sawrubh> :P
12:27:13 <flo-retina> sawrubh: I don't understand the conversation you were having about the xhtml stuff.
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12:27:28 <flo-retina> my review comment in the bug just said that we should move _one_ line later in the function that was modified
12:27:48 <sawrubh> flo-retina: that was about replicating the behaviour of libpurple in js-xmpp
12:27:58 <flo-retina> if you want to understand some libpurle code just for the sake of curiosity (or because you think it will help you later in your project), I can help you. But that's not what I asked yesterday at all
12:28:27 <instantbot> New Instantbird - Conversation bug 1009504 filed by aleth@instantbird.org.
12:28:28 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1009504 nor, --, ---, aleth, NEW, Throbber persists when disconnected while joining
12:28:32 <flo-retina> sawrubh: the "debug log" also exists in non-debug builds ;)
12:28:53 <sawrubh> flo-retina: I'm just writing an etherpad (for me to understand so that I'm able to replicate the functionality as required in bug 998609), be back in a moment with a clearer set of questions
12:28:55 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=998609 enh, --, ---, saurabhanandiit, NEW, Support topics in XMPP MUCs
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12:57:48 <aleth> sawrubh: Btw, regarding the mq discussion, I have added "pre-pull = hg qpop -a" to [hooks] in .hgrc so I never forget to qpop everything before updating.
12:59:30 <sawrubh> aleth: cool! new trick learned :)
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13:09:46 <sawrubh> flo-retina: https://etherpad.mozilla.org/bug-understandings is my understanding
13:10:06 <qheaden> Hello.
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13:10:11 <sawrubh> qheaden: yo
13:10:24 <qheaden> Hey sawrubh!
13:11:55 <sawrubh> flo-retina: I just wanted to make sure I'm not over complicating the problem, as in trying to replicate the behavior too exactly (matching the checks in http://lxr.instantbird.org/instantbird/source/purple/libpurple/protocols/jabber/message.c#250) which might not be desired
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13:20:23 <flo-retina> sawrubh: do you have a patch that you could pastebin of what you want to implement (even in pseudo code)?
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13:21:00 <flo-retina> I'm not sure what you are _really_ asking, and I don't feel like reverse engineering the libpurple code more than I need to unblock you :-]
13:21:37 <sawrubh> heh, I'll get back with a patch
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13:26:40 <sawrubh> alexis: I just need to build with 'ac_add_options --enable-optimize' for the optimized builds (to override that bustage) ?
13:26:58 <sawrubh> err.. aleth 
13:27:49 <aleth> sawrubh: optimize is the default
13:28:59 <sawrubh> aleth: then it's weird because my mozconfig look like this : http://pastebin.mozilla.org/5147177
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13:29:23 <sawrubh> so it should be optimized and hence I shouldn't be getting that bustage right?
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13:30:21 <aleth> Strange.
13:30:46 <aleth> You don't really need the ccache and disable-debug-symbols, but I don't see how that would break anything
13:31:16 <sawrubh> both those options are just for speeding up things and yeah they shouldn't have an effect anyways
13:31:27 <sawrubh> s/things/build times
13:31:30 <aleth> Have you tried clobbering?
13:31:51 * sawrubh gives that a shot
13:33:01 <flo-retina> try --disable-debug
13:33:36 * sawrubh gives that a shot too
13:33:54 <flo-retina> fixing the bustage would also be a nice way to move forward ;)
13:34:00 <flo-retina> not sure how familiar you are with C++ XPCOM
13:34:01 <instantbot> c++ sucks
13:34:16 * sawrubh gives instantbot a cookie
13:34:17 <instantbot> yay
13:34:32 <sawrubh> I'm not familiar with XPCOM :/
13:34:54 <aleth> You will be :P
13:35:23 <flo-retina> sawrubh: the fix I gave you yesterday was wrong
13:35:26 <aleth> Though more the JS part in your project, I guess.
13:35:37 <flo-retina> instead of adding the "I" I should have told you to replace "nsCOMPtr" with "nsRefPtr"
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13:58:34 <qheaden> sawrubh: XPCOM takes time to understand. I still can't fully understand it at times. :P
13:59:38 <flo-retina> I don't think "fully" understanding XPCOM makes sense
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14:00:39 <sawrubh> qheaden: that's why I never tried ;)
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14:38:34 <clokep_work> sawrubh: So do you understand what flo-retina wanted from that comment then?
14:39:48 <clokep_work> (Hello qheaden.)
14:40:26 <clokep_work> aleth: Thanks for the review. :)
14:43:10 <qheaden> Hey clokep_work.
14:43:31 <clokep_work> Done now?
14:44:05 <qheaden> clokep_work: You mean with school? Yeah.
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15:17:23 <mayanktg> aleth: 
15:17:48 <mayanktg> aleth: Hello. How can I get moz based icons for the patch?
15:18:30 <mayanktg> I searched for icons in browser/themes directory but couldn't find a suitable match :-/
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15:19:49 <aleth> It's possible nothing suitable exists. But maybe try https://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/find?text=&string=.png and webrtc-related repos (flo-retina may have some ideas)?
15:20:14 <mayanktg1> aleth: ok. Thanks :)
15:21:33 <aleth> Personally I don't think you need the 'X' icon at all, but lets see what Mic thinks...
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15:27:29 <aleth> Maybe something like this inside the button, next to the button text would work? https://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/mobile/android/base/resources/drawable-hdpi/alert_camera.png?force=1
15:31:04 <Vigilante> Seems the Facebook issue is resolved? I couldn't connect to FB yesterday but today it seems to be back. Don't think IB updated so what happened?
15:31:55 <aleth> Sounds like you'd have to ask Facebook...
15:33:39 <Vigilante> I don't think so. FB moved to their new chat API a week or two ago, sounds like the old stuff is going buy buy. Not sure if IB is using the 2.0 API or if that had something to do with it.
15:33:54 <Vigilante> All messages I ever sent through IB got removed as spam by FB
15:35:38 <aleth> There are rumours that FB is going to discontinue support for XMPP clients, yes. But I'm not sure that's already happened.
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15:49:35 <Vigilante> I think they are limiting what can be done through the API, but FB is so stupid to not have decent chat by now. who wants to keep FB up in a tab all day trying to chat in a tiny popup window at the bottom of the page?
15:50:01 <aleth> If you can, get your friends to use a better XMPP server than facebook ;)
15:50:30 <aleth> It's not like it's particularly difficult...
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15:51:33 <aleth> People just go for what's built-in.
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15:52:38 <Vigilante> as the largest social network around, they have the power to pretty much dominate chat, but no. just doesn't make sense
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16:11:50 <Mic|mobile> Mayanktg: cool :)
16:12:52 <Mic|mobile> I create the placeholdet icon myself and could easily create one with transparent background.
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16:14:01 <Mic|mobile> The webcam icon is totally pirated though... ;)
16:14:17 <mayanktg> Ok. I was having trouble using GIMP :-/
16:14:25 <mayanktg> Mic|mobile: hehe :P
16:14:40 <mayanktg> I will take care of the license in future 
16:15:30 <mayanktg> I have deleted "remove icon". pretty decent now.
16:16:10 <Mic|mobile> The placeholder and webcam are a nice touch imo, but having an X for delete would be totally gnome-ish 
16:17:32 <Mic|mobile> I need to go again... looking forward to try that myself! :)
16:17:46 <mayanktg> Mic|mobile: Ok. 
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16:19:20 <mayanktg> https://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/mobile/android/base/resources/drawable-hdpi/folder.png will that be ok for "set icon from file"?
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16:35:30 <clokep_work> qheaden: I can't wait for your patches. :P
16:36:08 <clokep_work> Vigilante: From what I've researched the Graph API is switching to v2.0 next year and will disable support for XMPP, which Instantbird uses.
16:36:17 <clokep_work> Whatever issues you had yesterday are unrelated.
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16:43:30 <clokep_work> flo-retina: What were you trying to say about that plugin-container issue I was having?
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16:47:50 <clokep_work> Vigilante: Also Facebook won't make a better chat because they don't need to. :P
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17:05:41 <nhnt11> Damn it
17:06:10 * nhnt11 thinks that if people want to move away from standard protocols, they should make public an API for their chat systems
17:06:40 <nhnt11> (Maybe Facebook will, but at the moment all they say is that the Chat/XMPP API will no longer be available)
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17:11:41 <flo-retina> clokep_work: you were saying you didn't understand why our make package failed, I just showed you the line that's attempting to package it
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19:15:50 <Mic> clokep, flo-retina: http://armenzg.blogspot.de/2014/05/do-you-need-used-mac-mini-for-your.html
19:16:43 <Mic> I guess you know that already but just to be on the safe side...
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20:17:32 <h0ckeysk8er> 02 01Having an issue with XMPP chat rooms in TB 24.4.....need someone knowledgeable to point me in the right direction
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20:44:29 <arlolra> clokep_work: do you know what these _sortComparator errors are?
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20:48:56 <clokep_work> arlolra: Am I missing context? :-S
20:49:01 <clokep_work> What _sortComparator errors?
20:49:04 <clokep_work> What are you running?
20:49:12 <clokep_work> flo-retina: I think we're having trouble communicating...
20:49:31 <clokep_work> flo-retina: I understand WHAT is causing the error. I don't understand WHY it's all of a sudden happening. Should we be removing that line? Did something change?
20:49:32 <arlolra> oh, just something I noticed when building today
20:49:57 <clokep_work> nhnt11: Facebook already has a public API for chat.
20:50:11 <clokep_work> h0ckeysk8er: Can you be more specific?
20:50:21 <flo-retina> clokep_work: I usually figure out these issues by looking at the hg log of the same file for TB
20:50:22 <nhnt11> clokep_work: You mean this? https://developers.facebook.com/docs/chat/
20:50:36 <clokep_work> flo-retina: I didn't see anything interesting.
20:50:49 <EionRobb> stupid facebook chat shutting down :(
20:51:12 <nhnt11> clokep_work: That's basically their xmpp gateway right?
20:51:14 <clokep_work> nhnt11: Yes. EionRobb apparently knows more about the changes. ;) Ask him. :P
20:51:18 <clokep_work> nhnt11: Not at all.
20:51:31 <clokep_work> It's their chat API.
20:51:34 <clokep_work> Using their Graph stuff.
20:51:35 <arlolra> clokep_work: it shows up the in error console periodically ... even when my addon is disabled https://gist.github.com/arlolra/a6139a4c0ca739f5d1ce
20:51:42 <EionRobb> clokep_work: and the xmpp service too
20:51:49 <EionRobb> "The Chat/XMPP service and API, located at chat.facebook.com, will not be available once 1.0 is deprecated."
20:52:01 <EionRobb> which is until April 30th, 2015
20:52:12 <nhnt11> That document has no info about how to use it via the Graph api from what I can see
20:52:21 <h0ckeysk8er> @clokep_work the properties for the XMPP account i'm signed into say i've auto-joined channels...however there are no channels listed in the contacts sidebar...only online and offline contacts
20:53:22 <clokep_work> flo-retina: https://mxr.mozilla.org/comm-central/source/mail/installer/package-manifest.in#98 is still there.
20:53:46 <clokep_work> arlolra: nhnt11 might be able to help you, he wrote that code. :)
20:54:01 <clokep_work> EionRobb: Yes, I know. :-S I don't understand what we're talking about.
20:54:31 <nhnt11> clokep_work: I'm saying the Fb chat API /is/ the XMPP gateway (there's no other way to use it)
20:54:33 <arlolra> clokep_work: go habs go
20:54:36 <clokep_work> h0ckeysk8er: What do you mean it says you're signed into channels? The properties just contains what you're TRYING to sign into. It doesn't give you any status.
20:54:36 <nhnt11> According to that document anyway
20:54:46 <clokep_work> nhnt11: There ARE other ways. I know that for a fact.
20:54:52 * nhnt11 tries to figure out what code he wrote that might help arlolra
20:55:06 <nhnt11> Sure, there must be, because the official Fb apps use it for example
20:55:17 <clokep_work> nhnt11: https://developers.facebook.com/docs/graph-api/reference/v2.0/message/
20:55:34 <clokep_work> https://developers.facebook.com/docs/graph-api/reference/v1.0/message also exists btw.
20:56:12 <clokep_work> nhnt11: Also see the /thread endpoint.
20:56:19 <clokep_work> arlolra: Yes. :)
20:56:51 <clokep_work> nhnt11: arlolra is seeing a warning in the conv stats service https://gist.github.com/arlolra/a6139a4c0ca739f5d1ce
20:57:02 <EionRobb> clokep_work: that's for messages, not instant-messages :)
20:57:12 <clokep_work> EionRobb: Facebook doesn't differentiate IIRC.
20:57:15 <EionRobb> clokep_work: also, read-only ;)
20:58:08 <clokep_work> h0ckeysk8er: Are those MUCs password protected or anything fancy like that? How did you originally join them? Did you check the error console for errors.
20:58:19 <clokep_work> EionRobb: That's unfortunate. They also have an....MQTT endpoint?
20:58:39 <clokep_work> (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MQTT This is what Facebook Messenger uses)
20:58:44 <clokep_work> The official apps on mobile.
20:59:01 <nhnt11> EionRobb, clokep_work: This seems to suggest sending pm's is possible: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/2574431/send-private-messages-to-friends
20:59:45 <EionRobb> nope
21:00:00 * nhnt11 was sure he researched this once and ended with the conclusion that the API wasn't public or something
21:00:02 <nhnt11> :S
21:00:06 <clokep_work> EionRobb: Well that just sucks, let me know when you figure it out. :P
21:00:22 <EionRobb> clokep_work: might just dust off the old fb plugin instead and hack the http's
21:00:34 <h0ckeysk8er> @clokep_work no, they aren't password protected and i see no xmpp or chat errors in the console
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21:01:35 <nhnt11> That stats service warning is weird, why is the localeCompare failing? :S
21:03:29 <clokep_work> h0ckeysk8er: I'm unsure then. Would possibly be interesting to look at a protocol log, but I don't think that's easily available in TB 24. Maybe file a bug?
21:03:37 <clokep_work> nhnt11: I don't know. ;)
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21:04:49 <h0ckeysk8er> @clokep_work  the documentation on chat in TB is pretty thin....i presume that channels should show up in the contacts sidebar similar to an individual contact?
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21:06:04 <clokep_work> They should be displayed in the list of conversations, yes.
21:06:18 <clokep_work> Mic: I didn't see that link. Thanks.
21:07:28 <clokep_work> EionRobb: Them and Google starting to suck all at once, fun times! :)
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21:11:24 <clokep_work> h0ckeysk8er: Did you try manually joining the MUC? Does that work?
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21:13:32 <h0ckeysk8er> @clokep_work manually joining the channel doesn't make it appear in the conversations list....it only adds the channel to the auto join list in the account settings
21:13:43 <clokep_work> h0ckeysk8er: Then it failed.
21:13:48 <clokep_work> For some reason or another.
21:14:37 <h0ckeysk8er> @clokep_work i am seeing the symptoms of this bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=788137  the channel listed in the auto join has /null at the end
21:14:39 <instantbot> Bug 788137 nor, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, Nick for XMPP chatrooms becomes 'null'
21:15:21 <clokep_work> h0ckeysk8er: Looks like it needs detailed steps to reproduce.
21:18:49 <h0ckeysk8er> @clokep_work the initial description of the bug is how it is happening for me
21:20:07 <clokep_work> sawrubh: Were you able to make any progress today.
21:21:08 <clokep_work> h0ckeysk8er: Doesn't seem like that was enough for Florian to reproduce it. ;) I don't have an XMPP account here I'll try it when I gethome.
21:22:11 * clokep_work forgets if that's the newest release of TB or not. :-S
21:22:36 <flo-retina> sawrubh: "didn't ask it (to not appear a total noob)" seems like the worst possible thing to do.
21:22:51 <h0ckeysk8er> @clokep_work the auto-joined channels list has name@server.domain.com/null  even if i change it to name@server.domain.com/nickname, it makes no diff
21:22:56 <flo-retina> we are here to help you, not to decide if you look like a "noob".
21:23:08 <flo-retina> but if you don't ask when you don't understand something, it's _impossible_ to help you.
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21:24:12 <clokep_work> h0ckeysk8er: I'm very confused at what problem you're trying to solve now: Are you trying to get joining chats to work? Auto-joining chats to work? Or fixing the nickname used in auto-joined chats?
21:24:24 <clokep_work> Unfortunately I'm very distracted right now and about to get dinner. :-\
21:25:05 <h0ckeysk8er> @clokep_work all of them...the join isn't working...the auto-join isn't working...the nickname used in the auto-join isn't working
21:25:24 <clokep_work> OK, it's confusing to talk about all of them at once. ;)
21:25:59 <clokep_work> h0ckeysk8er: There's a few things you can do, tell us what you're actually trying to join so someone else can try it (although I'm leaving so I can't do it now); file a bug with the details in it; try a more up-to-date TB and see if it still occurs.
21:26:13 <h0ckeysk8er> @clokep_work  yeah...sorry....the UI here leaves a lot to be desired and isn't helping the conversation
21:26:41 <clokep_work> Yeah, parts of that have gotten better.
21:26:46 <clokep_work> Although feedback about that could be good too.
21:29:20 <h0ckeysk8er> @clokep_work unfortunately, this is a private XMPP server so no one else can access it....and the other thing is that this is really the debian version of TB, IceDove...so my ability to upgrade to something newer is rather hampered
21:30:29 <clokep_work> h0ckeysk8er: OK. So...in about:config you can search for loglevel and reduce that to 1. All the XMPP messages should then be thrown into the error console.
21:30:35 <clokep_work> After trying to join you can see if an error is returned.
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21:52:10 <h0ckeysk8er> @clokep_work well, i set the log level to 1 and there are tons of messages in both the error console and the xterm window that i started icedove in.....however nothing related to joining the channel....i see messages about logging in, presence updates, the roster, etc...nothing about joining channel
21:52:43 <clokep_work> h0ckeysk8er: I'd suggest clearing it and trying to manually join.
21:53:05 <h0ckeysk8er> k
21:53:06 <clokep_work> Bah, https://mxr.mozilla.org/comm-central/source/chat/protocols/xmpp/xmpp.jsm#646 doesn't seem to log much.
21:54:42 <flo-retina> clokep_work: what's the plan to fix the windows bustage?
21:55:02 <flo-retina> are we still waiting on Standard8's review for the TB patch?
21:55:12 <flo-retina> if so, how many times has he been pinged already? :-D
21:55:32 <clokep_work> flo-retina: So TB is busted on a different bustage.
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21:55:45 <clokep_work> flo-retina: My plan was "try to compile it on my own machine and ensure that patch fixes the bustage than push it."
21:55:56 <clokep_work> flo-retina: But I ran into the bustage involving plugin-container whcih I don't understand at all.
21:55:58 <flo-retina> ah, I thought you had already tested it locally :-/
21:56:02 <clokep_work> No.
21:56:03 <flo-retina> ah!
21:56:07 <clokep_work> I was trying to do that last night and got really frustrated.
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21:56:29 <clokep_work> Uh oh.
21:56:50 <clokep_work> Ah, joshua just checked in bug 1006498
21:56:53 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1006498 blo, --, Thunderbird 32.0, Pidgeot18, RESO FIXED, Import nsCharsetConverterManager into c-c
21:56:55 <clokep_work> So maybe that bustage of theirs is gone.
21:58:19 * clokep_work is confused why https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Thunderbird-Trunk&rev=a232575572bb has any builds going. :-S
21:58:26 * clokep_work needs to get going.
21:58:31 <clokep_work> I'll be online in a couple hours.
21:58:35 <flo-retina> good evening! :)
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22:56:05 <xangua> just tried to enter #ubuntu on freenode and instandbird froze lol
22:58:21 <alexis> hmm
22:58:30 <alexis> I don't understand what's hapenning, I get: http://paste.lolnet.org/paste/11wAlKej#TEU3aBOS
22:58:33 <alexis> when I'm trying to build
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23:00:15 <alexis> http://paste.lolnet.org/paste/tdAxQzkS#LGr2yhBk for the full logs
23:00:36 <alexis> any idea?
23:16:06 <flo-retina> alexis: the message you pastebined says "Your build was successful!"
23:16:53 <flo-retina> alexis: you'll likely find a usable build in /home/alexis/dev/comm-central/obj-x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu/mozilla/dist/bin/instantbird
23:17:05 <flo-retina> (note the mozilla/ folder in the path, that mach doesn't know about)
23:17:29 <flo-retina> Good night :)
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