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00:03:56 <-- blackeagle573 has left #instantbird (later) 00:05:36 <-- dew has quit (Ping timeout) 00:16:53 --> dew has joined #instantbird 00:17:44 <flo-retina> the connection between the Mac slave and the buildbot master is now going through an SSH tunnel. My hope is that this will protect the buildbot slave from the flakiness of my ISP. 00:18:33 <-- dew has quit (Ping timeout) 00:36:38 --> dew has joined #instantbird 00:48:09 <-- dew has quit (Ping timeout) 00:51:07 --> dew has joined #instantbird 01:07:53 <-- Suiseiseki has quit (Quit: Leaving) 01:16:38 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 01:18:04 --> Suiseiseki has joined #instantbird 02:34:50 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 02:34:50 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep 02:37:01 <-- clokep has quit (Ping timeout) 04:10:38 <instant-buildbot> build #1053 of linux-nightly-default is complete: Success [3build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/linux-nightly-default/builds/1053 04:38:38 <-- qheaden has quit (Ping timeout) 04:45:59 --> qheaden has joined #instantbird 04:57:44 --> blackeagle573 has joined #instantbird 05:14:41 <-- EionRobb has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 05:15:21 <instant-buildbot> build #1199 of win32-nightly-default is complete: Success [3build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/win32-nightly-default/builds/1199 05:38:08 <instant-buildbot> build #1423 of macosx-nightly-default is complete: Success [3build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/macosx-nightly-default/builds/1423 05:45:31 <-- wnayes has quit (Quit: wnayes) 05:47:57 --> GeKo has joined #instantbird 06:36:39 --> EionRobb has joined #instantbird 06:53:46 <-- Suiseiseki has quit (Quit: Leaving) 06:57:47 --> Suiseiseki has joined #instantbird 07:17:06 <-- blackeagle573 has quit (Ping timeout) 08:19:07 --> BWMerlin has joined #instantbird 09:24:59 --> nhnt11 has joined #instantbird 09:35:33 <-- nhnt11 has quit (Ping timeout) 09:35:56 <-- gerard-majax__ has quit (Ping timeout) 09:46:11 <-- EionRobb has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 09:50:29 <flo-retina> the mac slave was still lost 3 times this night :(. 10:18:12 --> gerard-majax__ has joined #instantbird 10:21:32 --> mikk_s has joined #instantbird 10:43:17 --> nhnt11 has joined #instantbird 10:47:40 <-- nhnt11 has quit (Ping timeout) 10:51:36 --> nhnt11 has joined #instantbird 10:56:01 <-- GeKo has quit (Ping timeout) 11:00:03 --> GeKo has joined #instantbird 11:00:29 <-- flo-retina has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.5a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 11:02:01 <-- IRCMonkey26470 has quit (Ping timeout) 11:06:52 <-- GeKo has quit (Ping timeout) 11:10:20 --> GeKo has joined #instantbird 11:11:05 <-- mikk_s has quit (Client exited) 11:18:58 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 11:18:58 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep 11:21:41 <-- dew has quit (Ping timeout) 11:25:08 --> flo-retina has joined #instantbird 11:25:08 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo-retina flo-retina 11:25:18 --> florian has joined #instantbird 11:25:32 <-- florian has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.5a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 11:29:28 <clokep> Well that's an improvement, right flo-retina? 11:29:32 <clokep> So are we making RCs today? 11:31:32 <flo-retina> clokep: well, I don't know if it's a real improvement 11:31:46 <flo-retina> it's been quite random... 11:32:00 <flo-retina> I guess we will need to look at it for a week or so to know if there's a real improvement 11:32:33 <flo-retina> I think we should make RCs today, yes 11:32:47 <flo-retina> I would like to know if aleth thinks he'll be able to get an update for the it locale 11:35:44 <flo-retina> and that TB add-on definitely crashes after putting the laptop out of sleep if the wifi doesn't reconnect immediately :-/ 11:37:52 <clokep> :-\ 11:44:54 <-- mrphs has quit (Ping timeout) 11:45:11 --> mrphs has joined #instantbird 11:51:44 <-- clokep has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.5a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 12:01:12 <flo-retina> bah, Thunderbird Universal mac builds with --disable-ldap are broken :( 12:03:40 <flo-retina> and my build segfaults at startup 12:03:46 * flo-retina clobbers and does a non-universal build 12:04:08 <flo-retina> (I would like to catch the crash of the TB add-on on gdb on a local debug build) 12:20:33 <-- BWMerlin has quit (Quit: BWMerlin) 12:52:10 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 12:52:22 * clokep is now known as clokep_work 13:09:13 <qheaden> Hello everyone. 13:12:07 <flo-retina> qheaden: hello :) 13:12:20 <qheaden> I think we need to add another protocol to Instantbird. Microsoft Lync. 13:12:21 <flo-retina> my Tb24 build from scratch still crashes at startup :( 13:12:38 <qheaden> We use it at work, and only Pidgin on Linux has a plugin for it. :( 13:12:39 <flo-retina> qheaden: clokep has patches for it in my review queue. 13:12:48 <qheaden> Really? Awesome. 13:12:57 <flo-retina> qheaden: bug 976 13:12:59 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=976 enh, --, ---, clokep, ASSI, Support Microsoft Office Communicator protocol (SIPE) 13:13:06 <qheaden> Cool. Thanks. 13:13:12 <flo-retina> maybe you can help him finish that? :) 13:13:16 <qheaden> Sure. 13:13:35 <qheaden> I'm still trying to figure out what on JS-Yahoo I should work on next. 13:13:36 <flo-retina> IIRC it was mostly finishing build system details 13:13:51 <flo-retina> qheaden: get us to use it! :) 13:13:58 <qheaden> :P 13:14:28 <flo-retina> qheaden: I mean it, seriously. Create a conference to replace #chatdev, and ping each of us to create accounts and join it. 13:15:02 <qheaden> Okay. I'll try that. It'll probably be in about an hour or so, I have a couple of things to take care of at work. ;) 13:15:15 <qheaden> brb 13:16:49 <clokep_work> qheaden: The SIPE plug-in builds and works on Linux and Windows (at least), but probably needs some updating to the build files and such. Plus they were a bit sloppy last time I looked. 13:17:18 <qheaden> clokep_work: Okay. When I get a chance, I'll try to patch my local build and test it out. 13:18:55 <flo-retina> qheaden: convincing us may be slightly easier once 1.5 is out the door 13:19:33 <flo-retina> that silly broken TB build annoys me :( 13:23:36 <clokep_work> :( 13:23:44 * clokep_work wonders if aleth will be online. 13:24:12 * flo-retina is looking forward to having an automated release process ;) 13:24:34 <flo-retina> + giving translators 6 weeks of string freeze for each release should help a lot :) 13:28:11 <-- nhnt11 has quit (Ping timeout) 13:28:46 --> nhnt11 has joined #instantbird 13:38:07 <-- nhnt11 has quit (Ping timeout) 13:38:25 <clokep_work> :) That'll be nice, yes. 13:38:29 <clokep_work> Need to get used to it. 13:38:33 <clokep_work> But it'll be good 13:38:42 --> nhnt11 has joined #instantbird 13:46:49 * flo-retina cloned mozilla-esr24 in only 25 minutes :) 13:47:21 <-- nhnt11 has quit (Ping timeout) 13:47:47 --> nhnt11 has joined #instantbird 13:57:53 <-- nhnt11 has quit (Ping timeout) 13:58:46 --> nhnt11 has joined #instantbird 14:15:53 <-- nhnt11 has quit (Ping timeout) 14:16:41 --> nhnt11 has joined #instantbird 14:22:01 <-- nhnt11 has quit (Ping timeout) 14:22:44 --> nhnt11 has joined #instantbird 14:31:24 <-- nhnt11 has quit (Ping timeout) 14:31:49 <flo-retina> why is the awesometab not offering me IRC nicks I private-msg'ed in the past? :-/ 14:32:16 --> nhnt11 has joined #instantbird 14:32:19 --> mconley has joined #instantbird 14:34:17 <-- mconley has quit (Quit: Leaving...) 14:44:01 <-- nhnt11 has quit (Ping timeout) 14:44:12 --> mconley has joined #instantbird 14:49:48 <qheaden> flo-retina: So you still wanted me to make those HTTP error messages more specific right? 14:52:50 <flo-retina> yes 15:02:11 <-- flo-retina has quit (Input/output error) 15:02:24 --> flo-retina has joined #instantbird 15:02:24 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo-retina flo-retina 15:08:31 --> nhnt11 has joined #instantbird 15:08:53 --> skeledrew has joined #instantbird 15:08:57 <-- skeledrew has quit (Connection reset by peer) 15:12:21 --> aleth-mac has joined #instantbird 15:18:55 <-- aleth-mac has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.5a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 15:18:57 --> aleth-mac has joined #instantbird 15:24:57 <aleth-mac> flo-retina: because nhnt11 hasn't fixed bug 2185? ;) 15:24:59 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2185 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, New conversation tabs should display items for buddies that aren't contacts. 15:28:25 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 15:28:25 * ChanServ sets mode +h aleth 15:39:46 <-- nhnt11 has quit (Ping timeout) 15:43:46 <clokep_work> aleth-mac: So are we ready from RCs from your POV? 15:46:20 <-- aleth-mac has quit (Ping timeout) 15:48:10 --> aleth-mac has joined #instantbird 15:48:40 --> nhnt11 has joined #instantbird 16:02:52 <flo-retina> aleth-mac: so should we start doing RC, and decide that it's too late for it? 16:03:37 <aleth-mac> clokep_work: Yes, the blockers are fixed afaik :) Not sure if flo feels like it's worth looking into the gio issue or whether it will wait until the build slave gets updated. 16:04:16 <aleth-mac> flo-retina: I think so. It's always possible to add in one locale by hand later I suppose if it was really wanted? 16:05:44 <clokep_work> aleth-mac: We'll worry about gio later. 16:07:15 <aleth-mac> Yeah. I'm just not sure exactly what the next steps are on that (find the right person to ask for a current mozilla build slave disk image?) 16:07:15 <flo-retina> aleth-mac: "It's always possible to add in one locale by hand later" not possible without respinning the whole set of release candidates (ie. we won't do it). 16:08:10 <aleth-mac> OK 16:22:58 <clokep_work> flo-retina: So what do we need to do to help you w/ that? 16:23:05 * clokep_work forgot to do the website update yesterday. :( 16:23:21 <-- gerard-majax__ has quit (Ping timeout) 16:24:41 --> gerard-majax__ has joined #instantbird 16:26:57 <clokep_work> Could I convince someone to work a bit on the release announcement at the bottom of https://etherpad.mozilla.org/ib-1-5 16:26:58 <clokep_work> ? 16:27:21 * flo-retina is in a meeting right now 16:37:27 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: Ciao) 16:37:32 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 16:37:32 * ChanServ sets mode +h aleth 16:48:24 * qheaden is now known as qheaden_away 16:50:42 <-- nhnt11 has quit (Ping timeout) 17:01:42 <-- Tonnes has quit (Connection reset by peer) 17:11:13 <-- aleth-mac has quit (Ping timeout) 17:11:19 --> aleth-mac has joined #instantbird 17:12:02 --> nhnt11 has joined #instantbird 17:16:27 <aleth-mac> No more blinking scrollbar :) 17:20:44 <-- nhnt11 has quit (Ping timeout) 17:21:28 --> nhnt11 has joined #instantbird 17:22:22 <-- nhnt11 has quit (Connection reset by peer) 17:25:17 <flo-retina> I really suspect the visibility stuff is broken. When focusing Instantbird, the messages don't move up. 17:25:43 <flo-retina> oh wait, it's not necessarily invisible if it's not focused 17:27:31 <aleth-mac> To make it look even nicer one could adjust the default visibile-bottom-margin to 3px or so rather than 0px as it is now, so the last message doesn't hug the inputbox border 17:27:50 <aleth-mac> But that's a really minor detail. 17:30:17 <-- mconley has quit (Connection reset by peer) 17:30:34 --> mconley has joined #instantbird 17:31:24 <flo-retina> aleth-mac: also, when scrolling up, we should make the space correct when the user scrolls down again 17:32:13 <aleth-mac> That would be perfect. 17:32:14 <flo-retina> clokep_work: "So what do we need to do to help you w/ that?" define "that"? :) 17:32:54 <flo-retina> aleth-mac: I think we can even do it! When the user is scrolling, the scrollbar is already visible 17:33:58 <aleth-mac> Yes :) I wonder if there is a way to do it without a scroll event handler 17:34:09 <aleth-mac> Probably not. 17:34:27 <flo-retina> clokep_work: for the release the next steps are "create the release branch, and do start building RCs". That's the only really time critical item (I'll do it tonight). We also need to update the website and land these changes on staging (that's the time consuming part). 17:34:29 <aleth-mac> (s/a/another) 17:34:40 <flo-retina> what's wrong with having a scroll handler? 17:34:54 <aleth-mac> Nothing (just that we already have one in convbrowser) 17:35:20 <flo-retina> we just need to ensure that we don't make the content jump by adding 10px of margin if the user has only scrolled up 2px 17:36:08 <aleth-mac> and to make sure it doesn't jank because of a relayout or something 17:36:38 <flo-retina> it shouldn't cause a reflow, as long as we don't attempt to measure something in the DOM after doing a change 17:36:46 <-- mrphs has quit (Ping timeout) 17:37:45 --> mrphs has joined #instantbird 17:46:35 <aleth-mac> flo-retina: You're right, when IB as a whole loses focus, the visibility doesn't work, even if the window is partially hidden. 17:46:39 --> Mook_as has joined #instantbird 17:46:59 <flo-retina> aleth-mac: well, if it's only partially hidden that makes sense. 17:47:05 <flo-retina> aleth-mac: the problem is if it is fully hidden 17:48:54 <-- gerard-majax__ has quit (Ping timeout) 17:49:39 --> gerard-majax__ has joined #instantbird 17:58:54 <-- mconley has quit (Connection reset by peer) 17:59:35 --> mconley has joined #instantbird 18:11:24 <flo-retina> I wonder how useful it would be to have an add-on that /whois all the IRC contacts, and offers to alias them automatically with their "Name" if that field seems sane, then automatically uninstalls itself. 18:31:31 --> mconley_ has joined #instantbird 18:31:35 <-- mconley has quit (Ping timeout) 18:40:13 --> qlum has joined #instantbird 18:43:10 --> rosonline has joined #instantbird 18:43:44 --> Tonnes has joined #instantbird 18:51:15 <clokep_work> flo-retina: I've wondered if we could do that automatically before too. :-/ 18:59:59 <-- flo-retina has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.5a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 19:15:48 <-- gerard-majax__ has quit (Ping timeout) 19:23:07 --> flo-retina has joined #instantbird 19:23:07 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo-retina flo-retina 19:34:01 * mconley_ is now known as mconley 19:58:25 --> gerard-majax__ has joined #instantbird 20:01:07 --> igorko has joined #instantbird 20:02:49 --> EionRobb has joined #instantbird 20:29:56 <-- aleth-mac has quit (Ping timeout) 20:35:47 --> aleth-mac has joined #instantbird 21:00:04 <-- aleth-mac has quit (Ping timeout) 21:28:54 --> aleth-mac has joined #instantbird 21:39:31 --> jb has joined #instantbird 21:44:34 --> dew has joined #instantbird 21:51:35 --> hadi has joined #instantbird 21:52:16 <hadi> hello~ 21:53:18 <-- jb has quit (Quit: jb) 21:53:23 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: Ciao) 21:55:48 --> jb has joined #instantbird 22:14:26 <-- GeKo has quit (Ping timeout) 22:19:17 --> jb1 has joined #instantbird 22:20:20 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 22:21:26 <rosonline> Hello 22:21:55 <flo-retina> looks like my TB build wasn't as broken as I thought. It's just mach that was broken. doing a make -f client.mk build pass on the same dir "fixed" it in one minute :) 22:21:56 <rosonline> Is there any website strings to make translations? 22:22:11 <flo-retina> rosonline: they aren't finished yet, we are still drafting/editing them 22:22:17 <rosonline> Ok 22:23:28 <rosonline> I finished the pt-br translations, but the log shows these phrases: instantbird/chrome/instantbird/preferences/preferences.dtd 22:23:28 <rosonline> WARNING: min-height only in reference, min-width only in l10n at line 12, column 41 for prefWinMinSize.styleGNOME 22:23:28 <rosonline> WARNING: min-height only in reference, min-width only in l10n at line 11, column 41 for prefWinMinSize.styleMac 22:23:29 <rosonline> WARNING: min-height only in reference, min-width only in l10n at line 10, column 41 for prefWinMinSize.styleWin2 22:24:34 <flo-retina> your translated preferences.dtd file sets the minimal width of the window, when the en-US version of the file sets the minimal height. 22:28:25 * flo-retina reads https://wiki.instantbird.org/Instantbird:release_process again 22:28:53 <clokep_work> Let me know when you need a hug. :P 22:29:07 <flo-retina> virtual hugs? 22:29:13 <rosonline> hum, but How can I fix those errors? 22:29:22 --> GeKo has joined #instantbird 22:29:42 <flo-retina> rosonline: have you looked at the lines indicated by the error? 22:29:53 <rosonline> I do 22:30:10 <rosonline> but I can't see how I can solve 22:30:38 <-- instant-buildbot has quit (Quit: buildmaster reconfigured: bot disconnecting) 22:30:44 --> instant-buildbot has joined #instantbird 22:30:44 * ChanServ sets mode +v instant-buildbot 22:30:55 <flo-retina> http://buildbot.instantbird.org/waterfall :) 22:31:31 <Mook_as> yay windows is purple!... err, wait 22:34:32 <aleth-mac> rosonline: Just replace min-width with min-height in those three lines, and the warning should go away. 22:42:55 <-- jb1 has quit (Ping timeout) 22:43:56 <-- aleth-mac has quit (Ping timeout) 22:48:28 <-- GeKo has quit (Ping timeout) 22:52:55 --> GeKo has joined #instantbird 22:53:07 <-- qlum has quit (Client exited) 22:53:42 <-- rosonline has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.4 -- http://www.instantbird.com) 22:53:50 --> rosonline has joined #instantbird 23:03:02 <-- clokep_work has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 23:05:00 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/e119e96ba074 - Florian Quèze - Bump the version number to 1.6a1pre for nightlies. 23:05:01 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/94b13a23dac6 - Florian Quèze - Set version number to 1.5 and add shipped-locales. 23:09:09 <-- igorko has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.5a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 23:09:30 <-- mconley has quit (Input/output error) 23:22:09 <-- dew has quit (Ping timeout) 23:22:10 --> dew1 has joined #instantbird 23:29:27 <instant-buildbot> build #0 of macosx-release-1.5 is complete: Failure [4failed hg] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/macosx-release-1.5/builds/0