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00:06:30 <-- EionRobb has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 00:07:46 --> EionRobb has joined #instantbird 00:07:51 <instant-buildbot> build #468 of linux-onCommit is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/linux-onCommit/builds/468 00:12:09 <-- EionRobb has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 00:12:10 <-- mconley has quit (Input/output error) 00:14:22 --> EionRobb has joined #instantbird 00:21:58 <-- EionRobb has quit (Connection reset by peer) 00:25:17 --> EionRobb has joined #instantbird 00:28:50 <-- EionRobb has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 00:40:45 <-- Mook_as has quit (Quit: Mook_as) 03:14:10 <instantbot> qheaden@phaseshiftsoftware.com requested review from benediktp@ymail.com for attachment 2886 on bug 2136. 03:14:14 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2136 min, --, ---, qheaden, ASSI, Yahoo! Mobile status not taken into account 03:22:49 <instant-buildbot> build #970 of linux-nightly-default is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/linux-nightly-default/builds/970 04:03:49 <-- spiffytech has quit (Ping timeout) 04:04:20 --> spiffytech has joined #instantbird 04:16:41 <instant-buildbot> build #1075 of win32-nightly-default is complete: Failure [failed compile] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/win32-nightly-default/builds/1075 04:35:09 <-- dionisos has quit (Ping timeout) 05:02:31 <-- wnayes has quit (Quit: wnayes) 05:26:49 --> EionRobb has joined #instantbird 05:42:17 <-- EionRobb has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 05:42:17 <-- skeledrew has quit (Connection reset by peer) 05:42:37 --> EionRobb has joined #instantbird 05:45:14 <-- EionRobb has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 05:46:17 --> FireFly_TB has joined #instantbird 05:46:30 --> EionRobb has joined #instantbird 05:50:04 --> skeledrew has joined #instantbird 05:50:18 <-- EionRobb has quit (Connection reset by peer) 05:55:04 --> EionRobb has joined #instantbird 05:58:09 <-- EionRobb has quit (Connection reset by peer) 06:02:53 --> gerard-majax_ has joined #instantbird 06:04:47 <-- gerard-majax_ has quit (Ping timeout) 06:04:55 --> jb has joined #instantbird 06:07:13 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 06:07:43 --> EionRobb has joined #instantbird 06:13:10 <instant-buildbot> build #458 of win32-onCommit is complete: Failure [failed compile] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/win32-onCommit/builds/458 blamelist: Nihanth Subramanya <nhnt11@gmail.com> 06:19:05 --> gerard-majax_ has joined #instantbird 06:22:50 <-- gerard-majax_ has quit (Ping timeout) 06:54:07 --> gerard-majax_ has joined #instantbird 06:55:47 <-- gerard-majax_ has quit (Ping timeout) 07:52:55 --> florian has joined #instantbird 08:36:24 <-- FireFly_TB has quit (Ping timeout) 08:43:57 <instantbot> benediktp@ymail.com denied review for attachment 2886 on bug 2136. 08:43:59 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2136 min, --, ---, qheaden, ASSI, Yahoo! Mobile status not taken into account 08:47:52 --> FireFly_TB has joined #instantbird 09:04:51 --> qlum has joined #instantbird 09:10:26 --> jb has joined #instantbird 09:12:44 <-- jb has quit (Connection reset by peer) 09:13:33 --> jb has joined #instantbird 09:14:26 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 09:14:26 * ChanServ sets mode +h Mic 09:15:06 <Mic> Good morning 09:22:25 <-- FireFly_TB has quit (Ping timeout) 09:26:33 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 09:48:32 <-- Mic has quit (Ping timeout) 09:51:05 --> rosonline has joined #instantbird 09:52:48 <flo-retina> this is a profile of displaying a large IRC log in the log viewer: http://i2.minus.com/iTS4F8eNibRoz.png 10:40:12 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 10:40:12 * ChanServ sets mode +h Mic 10:49:46 <Mic> Would we want to use toLocaleLowerCase instead of toLowerCase when in combination with localeCompare? MDN says there is (or might be) a difference for the Turkish language even though I didn't notice any difference between those too functions when I tried last time. 10:50:16 <Mic> I want to decide if there's something left to do in bug 1322 after bug 451 already changed getTags to return a sorted list. 10:50:20 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1322 tri, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Tags should be sorted using localeCompare 10:50:21 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=451 enh, --, 1.5, aleth, RESO FIXED, Participants Need Context Menu 10:55:12 <Mic> If we want to use toLocaleLowerCase then there's a few more places where we should change to it. 11:01:58 <-- dew has quit (Ping timeout) 11:02:19 --> dew has joined #instantbird 11:04:12 --> BWMerlin has joined #instantbird 11:05:04 <BWMerlin> I have just started using the instantbird plugin for thunderbird and I think it is absolutely awesome 11:05:16 <Mic> Hello BWMerlin 11:05:44 <BWMerlin> but I do have a question, is there a way I can associate irc hyperlinks on websites with thunderbird so that if I click on them they will open in thunberbird? 11:05:48 <BWMerlin> hi Mic 11:05:57 <Mic> These thanks go to flo-retin a then, he's the one maintaining it. 11:06:17 <Mic> There's no handler for the IRC protocol yet (for no protocol to be honest). 11:06:28 <BWMerlin> aww that is a shame 11:06:52 <BWMerlin> flo-retina: big thank you for thunberbird instantbird plugin 11:07:28 <BWMerlin> I have been using pidgin for years and while I like it it has always been a little buggy the devs always seem a little... off putting 11:08:06 <Mic> Let me look up the bug number - I'm sure we have one for the IRC links. 11:10:08 <Mic> Bug 516 is about the problem in general 11:10:11 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=516 enh, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Register protocol handlers for IM protocols 11:10:44 <Mic> If you've got an account with us, you can add yourself to the CC list (to receive emails when something happens on that bug). 11:13:28 <BWMerlin> I do not have an account with the instantbird bugzilla (I assume this is different from the mozilla bugzilla) 11:15:22 <-- ivan has quit (Ping timeout) 11:19:53 --> ivan has joined #instantbird 11:21:00 <Mic> BWMerlin: yes, it is a different bugtracker. 11:25:18 <BWMerlin> sigh, another account, just what I need (really should look into openid) 11:31:55 --> dionisos has joined #instantbird 11:37:49 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Instantbird -- http://www.instantbird.com) 12:00:02 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 12:00:02 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep 12:01:46 <clokep> flo-retina, qheaden: Sorry, I worded that really poorly yesterday (i.e. http://log.bezut.info/instantbird/yesterday/#m635), what I meant is we should have a GSoC roundup saying how it went from the project's POV, I didn't think that's what qheaden was suggesting to write...but he of course can if he wants! 12:03:02 <clokep> Oh boo, I forgot that Not Today! is broken... 12:15:03 --> jb has joined #instantbird 12:21:07 <-- EionRobb has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 12:26:04 <-- clokep has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.5a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 12:48:47 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 12:48:47 * ChanServ sets mode +h Mic 12:51:54 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Instantbird -- http://www.instantbird.com) 12:52:49 <flo-retina> clokep: maybe we should try and fix it before releasing 1.5? ;) 12:53:06 <flo-retina> I guess I mean possibly put in place a better API for what it's trying to do. 12:53:18 <flo-retina> That would be super useful for add-ons integrating pastebin too 13:17:33 <-- flo-retina has quit (Ping timeout) 13:17:44 <-- florian has quit (Ping timeout) 13:17:53 --> florian has joined #instantbird 13:18:09 --> flo-retina has joined #instantbird 13:18:09 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo-retina flo-retina 13:19:16 <-- qlum has quit (Ping timeout) 13:29:52 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 14:05:30 <-- chrisccoulson has quit (Ping timeout) 14:28:46 <BWMerlin> flo-retina: is it you I have to thanks for the thunderbird plugin for instantbird? 15:11:20 --> mconley has joined #instantbird 15:12:35 <flo-retina> BWMerlin: there's no "thunderbird plugin for instantbird". You talked about IRC earlier; IRC is directly part of Thunderbird. 15:14:00 <BWMerlin> flo-retina: then I am guessing it is not you who made this then https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/additional-chat-protocols/ 15:14:15 <flo-retina> yes; but you don't need it for IRC :) 15:18:32 <BWMerlin> I still like this addon 15:18:41 <BWMerlin> it gives me twitter back 15:18:57 <flo-retina> Twitter is in Thunderbird by default, without add-on 15:20:30 <BWMerlin> :) 15:20:33 <BWMerlin> :O* 15:20:37 <BWMerlin> that I did not know 15:20:42 <BWMerlin> today has been a good day 15:21:03 --> FireFly_TB has joined #instantbird 15:21:08 <flo-retina> (I made both the instant messaging integration in Thunderbird; and the add-on) 15:22:05 <BWMerlin> Then you have done a great job 15:22:43 <-- FireFly_TB has quit (Ping timeout) 15:23:01 <BWMerlin> Here, have a biscuit 15:24:44 <-- mconley has quit (Input/output error) 15:38:54 <-- BWMerlin has quit (Quit: BWMerlin) 15:39:19 <dew> flo-retina is pretty much awesome. Take it from me, I've seen him in the weekly meetings 15:39:33 <dew> and he left when I was typing that 15:39:51 <flo-retina> weekly meetings? 15:40:31 <dew> yeah I used to see you in the TB meetings 15:41:05 <flo-retina> I didn't know we had people from the community who took time to attend those meetings. 15:41:35 <dew> yeah I'm a mozilla fanboy :P 15:42:56 <flo-retina> :) 15:52:22 --> wnayes has joined #instantbird 15:55:42 <-- florian has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.5a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 15:56:15 --> florian has joined #instantbird 15:58:15 <-- florian has quit (Input/output error) 15:58:27 --> florian has joined #instantbird 15:59:01 <-- rosonline has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.4 -- http://www.instantbird.com) 16:00:48 <-- florian has quit (Input/output error) 16:05:39 --> florian has joined #instantbird 16:14:14 <-- florian has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.5a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 16:14:56 --> florian has joined #instantbird 16:59:55 --> unghost has joined #instantbird 17:10:35 <-- florian has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.5a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 17:11:13 --> florian has joined #instantbird 17:15:27 <-- florian has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.5a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 17:16:05 --> florian has joined #instantbird 17:27:44 <flo-retina> bah, I'm hitting https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=591600 again :( 17:39:59 <-- florian has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.5a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 17:40:24 --> florian has joined #instantbird 17:50:11 <-- skeledrew has quit (Ping timeout) 17:51:31 <-- florian has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.5a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 17:51:56 --> florian has joined #instantbird 17:57:39 --> chrisccoulson has joined #instantbird 18:00:09 --> skeledrew has joined #instantbird 18:01:51 <flo-retina> how do you all feel about this? http://i7.minus.com/iEk7ALX4XTof.png 18:09:01 --> jb has joined #instantbird 18:17:08 <-- florian has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.5a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 18:17:34 --> florian has joined #instantbird 18:22:28 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 18:30:46 <-- florian has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.5a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 18:31:08 --> florian has joined #instantbird 18:48:24 <-- chrisccoulson has quit (Quit: OSError: [Errno 130] Owner died) 18:58:47 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 18:58:47 * ChanServ sets mode +h Mic 19:02:44 <Mic> flo-retina: I think the modded Bubbles theme looks packed. Is the reduced distance between bubble border and text necessary? 19:05:20 <Mic> Maybe adding 1em does help and it will only cost about 1 character per line. 19:08:27 <Mic> I like the colored separators, that's something I've also played with for the dark bubbles theme :) 19:09:20 --> qlum has joined #instantbird 19:14:14 --> nhnt11 has joined #instantbird 19:15:29 <-- dionisos has quit (Ping timeout) 20:00:22 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Instantbird -- http://www.instantbird.com) 20:26:40 <-- nhnt11 has quit (Ping timeout) 20:26:43 --> nhnt11 has joined #instantbird 20:45:48 <flo-retina> Mic: "looks packed" heh, I was sure _you_ would say that :-D. 20:46:57 * nhnt11 agrees with Mic 20:47:09 <-- nhnt11 has quit (Input/output error) 20:47:10 --> nhnt12 has joined #instantbird 20:47:41 <-- nhnt12 has quit (Input/output error) 20:47:41 --> nhnt11 has joined #instantbird 20:48:32 <flo-retina> there are several different things I was trying to address; and touching everything at once is likely not a very good idea 20:49:45 <flo-retina> 1. I dislike that the vertical whitespace between the end of the last message of a bubble and the bubble's border is larger than the vertical whitespace between the last system message and the system message bubble's border. 20:50:13 <flo-retina> 2. I dislike the gray splitters, that uselessly add a 'color' in the mix. 20:50:34 <flo-retina> I tried to replace them with splitters of the same color as the bubble's border 20:50:44 <flo-retina> I also disliked the splitters that were lines 'connected to nowhere' 20:51:30 <flo-retina> so I tried to connect them to the side of the bubble (that looks awful on the side of the bubble where there's an arrow; so I used a gradient to hide it 'without visible limit' on that side) 20:52:22 <flo-retina> Then the solid line between the left side of the bubble and the beginning of the text looked ugly (it was too visible), so I reduced the horizontal whitespace on the left side of message bubbles. And then I aligned the text of system messages. 20:52:53 <flo-retina> I think it looks quite good on the system messages, as the whitespace is now the same on all sides; but I'm not satisfied of the way it looks on message bubbles. 20:54:37 <flo-retina> 3. There's also the general issue that most people I see trying Instantbird start by putting Simple in place of Bubbles because Bubbles wastes way too much space (and 3. bis; on very busy IRC channels with several messages per second, I find Bubbles unusable). 20:55:26 * nhnt11 doesn't use bubbles because of 3. too. 20:56:06 <nhnt11> also because I find it very annoying that the bubles move upwards by a pixel every now and then (I recall this is a feature but I don't like it) 20:56:40 <flo-retina> why is it "very annoying"? 20:56:59 <nhnt11> Because the movement catches my eyes when I'm looking at something else 20:57:02 <nhnt11> it's distracting. 20:57:37 <flo-retina> I wonder how much that differs from a person to another 20:57:48 <flo-retina> out of curiosity, how long have you tried it? 20:57:56 <nhnt11> I'm using it right now. 20:58:10 <nhnt11> And I used it for a couple of days when I first tried Instantbird 20:58:35 <flo-retina> ok 20:58:36 <nhnt11> I used simple for a week or so after that, but then I switched to paper sheets and find it perfect 20:59:02 <nhnt11> I switch back to it within a couple hours at max after trying a different theme usually 20:59:03 * nhnt11 shrugs 20:59:15 <flo-retina> that's strange 20:59:23 <flo-retina> historically Paper Sheet was Bubbles' prototype 21:00:08 <nhnt11> I like paper sheets because it looks good, doesn't waste space, and at the same time isn't cluttered. 21:00:09 <flo-retina> and we considered ditching it once Bubbles would be polished enough. That never happened, I don't remember why; maybe just because we thought people who were using it would get upset if we removed it. 21:00:21 * nhnt11 would be upset 21:00:30 <nhnt11> I would probably make an addon out of it... 21:00:41 <flo-retina> we never really figured out the "wastes too much space" aspect of bubbles 21:01:43 <nhnt11> It could be the margin... 21:01:58 <nhnt11> (but without that the little arrow would have no space) 21:02:33 <flo-retina> we also never figured out how we could display the avatar next to the arrow 21:03:41 <nhnt11> Hmm 21:04:12 <flo-retina> vertical centering is difficult in CSS :( 21:04:21 <nhnt11> I've never liked most of the "bubbles" themes in IM apps, especially on phones. 21:04:27 <nhnt11> Hmm (again) 21:04:58 <nhnt11> WhatsApp has one of the most unobtrusive bubbles themes imo 21:05:47 * flo-retina has never used WhatsApp 21:09:12 <-- florian has quit (Input/output error) 21:09:28 --> florian has joined #instantbird 21:12:20 <-- florian has quit (Input/output error) 21:15:31 --> florian has joined #instantbird 21:19:37 <-- florian has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.5a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 21:20:13 --> florian has joined #instantbird 21:24:59 <flo-retina> Is "the unbalanced margins around the log viewer's progress bar hurt my eyes" a valid bug summary? ;) 21:25:20 <flo-retina> (I have a trivial patch to go with it ;)) 21:29:05 <-- florian has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.5a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 21:30:10 --> florian has joined #instantbird 21:31:04 <-- florian has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.5a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 21:31:43 --> florian has joined #instantbird 21:32:10 <nhnt11> flo-retina: Is there a bug filed for http://puu.sh/4rm53.png, btw? 21:33:06 <flo-retina> nhnt11: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=909466 21:33:44 <flo-retina> SocialAPI offered me a good opportunity to file that itch of mine ;) 21:34:13 <nhnt11> Ah, so not specific to Ib.. 21:34:25 <flo-retina> yeah 21:34:37 <flo-retina> although apparently I haven't made a good job of convincing the reviewer :( 21:35:27 <flo-retina> we could easily apply the patch for Ib's conversations though; if we can't get it fixed in Mozilla; or don't want to wait 21:36:41 * nhnt11 wouldn't mind ;) 21:39:42 <flo-retina> how do you all feel about http://i5.minus.com/ii4trX37Fa5Wd.png ? 21:40:05 <flo-retina> I only touched the splitters, and got rid of the system message border (keeping only the box shadow) 21:41:04 * nhnt11 wonders how bubbles would look with a thinner border 21:48:21 --> jb has joined #instantbird 21:51:12 * flo-retina wonders if he should create a patch for these modified splitters or wait for feedback 22:00:03 <-- florian has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.5a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 22:00:29 --> florian has joined #instantbird 22:03:29 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 22:08:21 <instantbot> New Instantbird (UI) bug 2172 filed by florian@instantbird.org. 22:08:23 <instantbot> florian@instantbird.org requested review from the wind for attachment 2887 on bug 2172. 22:08:24 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2172 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Bubbles: use splitter of the same color as the bubble's borders to separate messages 22:23:36 <nhnt11> flo-retina: Does that look ok when there are multiple small messages from the same person? 22:24:00 <florian> nhnt11: wanna try? Join me in #testib ;) 22:24:08 <nhnt11> I imagine it would be odd to see a divider in the middle with no text at all on the left 22:24:14 <nhnt11> Ok, I guess I can spare a few minutes 22:24:28 <nhnt11> at all above it* 22:24:46 <flo-retina> actually I can try alone I gues 22:24:47 <flo-retina> s 22:25:16 <nhnt11> I'd like to see it though :( 22:25:17 <nhnt11> :) * 22:25:39 <flo-retina> http://i2.minus.com/iEQ4HKkosrzG.png 22:26:08 <nhnt11> Looks a bit weirdish imo 22:26:21 <flo-retina> I think it isn't too bad 22:26:31 <flo-retina> that situation wastes a lot of space anyway... 22:26:44 <nhnt11> flo-retina: Increase the width of your window 22:26:57 <nhnt11> (and see if you still think it isn't too bad) 22:27:45 <flo-retina> http://i1.minus.com/ibgnp3xEapN9aQ.png that doesn't seem worse than what we currently have 22:28:36 --> nhnt12 has joined #instantbird 22:29:29 <-- nhnt11 has quit (Ping timeout) 22:43:26 <instantbot> New Core - IRC bug 2173 filed by nhnt11@gmail.com. 22:43:29 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2173 min, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Clicking the topic in the header of an IRC channel with no topic and focusing something else without 22:55:56 --> BWMerlin has joined #instantbird 23:07:27 <-- nhnt12 has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.5a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 23:48:06 <-- unghost has quit (Quit: Ð£Ñ Ð¾Ð¶Ñ Ñ Ð¾Ñ Ð²Ð°Ñ (xchat 2.4.5 или ÑÑаÑÑе))