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00:00:40 <flo-retina> ok, now I need to explain... 00:00:52 * clokep is on my debug build 00:02:16 * clokep shutdowns. 00:02:19 <-- clokep has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.4a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 00:02:40 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 00:02:40 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep 00:03:01 <clokep> flo-retina: Seems to have fixed it. :) 00:03:07 <flo-retina> cool :) 00:06:52 <instantbot> florian@instantbird.org requested review from aleth@instantbird.o rg for attachment 2388 on bug 1888. 00:06:53 <instantbot> florian@instantbird.org requested feedback from benediktp@ymail.c om for attachment 2388 on bug 1888. 00:06:55 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1888 maj, --, ---, florian, NEW, New messages not displayed after detaching and reattaching a conversation tab 00:07:10 <flo-retina> that patch is ridiculously simple (compared to the time it took to understand what was going on) 00:08:17 <clokep> Looks simple, but I'm not going to r+ it. 00:08:29 <clokep> aleth and Mic know that code way better. 00:09:13 <flo-retina> are we string frozen? 00:09:32 <clokep> Yes! 00:09:42 <flo-retina> looks like we have only 17 new strings 00:09:53 <clokep> That's easy. :) 00:13:08 * clokep just had someone tweet "@(null)" 00:13:13 <clokep> I wonder if that's a bug in a client. ;) 00:14:00 <EionRobb> there's not (null) user on twitter? :) 00:14:01 <flo-retina> likely :) 00:14:03 <-- qlum has quit (Connection reset by peer) 00:14:13 <clokep> It wasn't linked. 00:14:21 <clokep> ( ) aren't valid in Twitter usernames, anyway. 00:17:11 <Mook_as> hmm, are twitter names ASCII-only? (thinking about ï¼ obviously) 00:17:11 <flo-retina> all right, it's way too late, but this still feels like good progress! 00:17:17 <clokep> Mook_as: Yes. 00:17:23 <clokep> flo-retina: Thanks for al the fixes. :) 00:18:00 <flo-retina> clokep: I'm glad we caught all these regressions before releasing; it proves nightlies are really useful ;) 00:18:31 --> mconley has joined #instantbird 00:18:39 <clokep> flo-retina: We should have caught them a long time ago. :( 00:19:09 <flo-retina> to be fair, the irc one is very recent :) 00:19:19 <clokep> The crash should have been caughta long time ago 00:19:26 * clokep should file these things when they start. 00:21:37 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/8269caf93136 - Florian Quèze - Bug 1939 - Warning: ReferenceError: reference to undefined property this._encoding, r=clokep. 00:21:39 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/026a99aba2f8 - Florian Quèze - Bug 1938 - Accounts are reconnected during shutdown, r=clokep. 00:23:00 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com set the Resolution field on bug 1939 to FIXED. 00:23:09 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1939 min, --, 1.4, florian, RESO FIXED, Warning: ReferenceError: reference to undefined property this._encoding 00:24:31 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com set the Resolution field on bug 1938 to FIXED. 00:24:33 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1938 nor, --, 1.4, florian, RESO FIXED, Accounts are reconnected during shutdown 00:25:35 <flo-retina> clokep: should I email the localizers, or are you doing it? 00:25:54 <flo-retina> I'm really tired, so if I do it, it will be the shortest string freeze announcement ever ;) 00:27:25 <flo-retina> basically just "String frozen for 1.4 release. Only 17 new strings. Hope to build RCs in a week, and to release in 9 days." 00:28:59 <clokep> flo-retina: I don't remember the address to send to. :( 00:29:13 <flo-retina> neither do I 00:29:21 <clokep> Haha 00:29:22 <clokep> I can do it. 00:29:56 <clokep> When are we releasing? 00:29:57 <flo-retina> the previous announcement was "Instantbird 1.3 string frozen" 00:30:03 <clokep> May 6? 00:30:44 <flo-retina> I think we are building RCs on April 28, and releasing on April 29 or 30 (depending how many round of RCs we need) 00:31:29 <-- EionRobb has quit (Ping timeout) 00:31:37 <flo-retina> May 6 is our fallback in case the delay has been really too short for localizers 00:31:47 <clokep> Right. 00:32:04 <flo-retina> I expected to give 2 weeks or at least 10 days of string freeze, but now that I've seen there's only 17 strings, I think a week is enough 00:32:15 <flo-retina> don't mention May 6 (yet) :) 00:32:20 --> EionRobb has joined #instantbird 00:33:52 <clokep> Of course. 00:34:22 <-- skeledrew has quit (Ping timeout) 00:37:26 <flo-retina> showing the draft of release notes may make sense 00:37:51 --> skeledrew has joined #instantbird 00:41:09 <flo-retina> Good night 00:41:48 <instant-buildbot> build #403 of linux-onCommit is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/linux-onCommit/builds/403 00:42:25 <instant-buildbot> build #382 of macosx-onCommit is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/macosx-onCommit/builds/382 00:54:10 <-- Mook_as has quit (Quit: Mook_as) 01:02:48 --> Suiseiseki has joined #instantbird 01:32:40 --> EionRobb1 has joined #instantbird 01:33:03 <-- EionRobb has quit (Ping timeout) 01:39:25 <instant-buildbot> build #389 of win32-onCommit is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/win32-onCommit/builds/389 01:48:47 <-- mali has quit (Ping timeout) 01:55:39 --> mali has joined #instantbird 02:25:55 <-- mali has quit (Ping timeout) 02:29:27 <-- clokep has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.4a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 02:50:39 <-- mconley has quit (Input/output error) 02:58:28 <instant-buildbot> build #845 of linux-nightly-default is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/linux-nightly-default/builds/845 03:38:06 <instant-buildbot> build #841 of macosx-nightly-default is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/macosx-nightly-default/builds/841 04:21:37 --> qheaden has joined #instantbird 04:33:50 --> EionRobb has joined #instantbird 04:34:10 <-- EionRobb1 has quit (Ping timeout) 04:34:55 --> harlock has joined #instantbird 04:50:16 --> Optimizer has joined #instantbird 05:08:36 <-- Optimizer has quit (Ping timeout) 05:31:15 <instant-buildbot> build #938 of win32-nightly-default is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/win32-nightly-default/builds/938 05:34:47 --> harlock1 has joined #instantbird 05:35:54 <-- harlock has quit (Ping timeout) 05:38:12 <-- harlock1 has quit (Quit: Baibai) 05:50:18 --> Optimizer has joined #instantbird 05:52:49 <-- Optimizer has quit (Input/output error) 05:52:52 --> Optimizer has joined #instantbird 06:03:11 <-- Optimizer has quit (Ping timeout) 06:06:32 --> Optimizer has joined #instantbird 06:09:02 <-- Optimizer has quit (Input/output error) 06:09:11 --> Optimizer has joined #instantbird 06:10:51 <-- Optimizer has quit (Ping timeout) 06:11:15 --> Optimizer has joined #instantbird 06:20:42 --> EionRobb1 has joined #instantbird 06:20:43 <-- EionRobb has quit (Ping timeout) 06:20:56 <-- Optimizer has quit (Ping timeout) 06:22:32 --> jb has joined #instantbird 06:24:25 --> Optimizer has joined #instantbird 06:26:27 <-- Optimizer has quit (Ping timeout) 06:38:38 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 06:42:09 --> jb has joined #instantbird 06:42:27 <-- qheaden has quit (Connection reset by peer) 06:54:35 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 07:08:30 <-- EionRobb1 has quit (Ping timeout) 07:12:54 <-- flo-retina has quit (Ping timeout) 07:13:52 --> flo-retina has joined #instantbird 07:13:53 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo-retina flo-retina 07:57:28 --> qlum has joined #instantbird 08:13:52 --> deltafalcon has joined #instantbird 08:20:00 <instantbot> benediktp@ymail.com granted feedback for attachment 2388 on bug 1888. 08:20:03 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1888 maj, --, ---, florian, NEW, New messages not displayed after detaching and reattaching a conversation tab 08:20:54 <flo-retina> " What about the website translation? Are there any strings to translate?" uh. Completely forgot that the website also needs to be ready in advance for translators :-/. 08:21:02 <-- deltafalcon has quit (Connection reset by peer) 08:21:55 <flo-retina> 3 locales are already ready to release (!) 08:22:19 <flo-retina> (well, one was already ready before we sent the string freeze announcement) 08:25:32 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 08:25:32 * ChanServ sets mode +h Mic 08:26:36 --> jb has joined #instantbird 08:27:29 --> deltafalcon has joined #instantbird 08:30:10 <-- deltafalcon has quit (Connection reset by peer) 08:34:44 --> mpmc has joined #instantbird 08:35:00 --> deltafalcon has joined #instantbird 08:35:38 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 08:35:38 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep 08:35:39 <-- deltafalcon has quit (Connection reset by peer) 08:37:27 <-- clokep has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.4a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 08:37:29 --> EionRobb has joined #instantbird 08:37:53 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 08:37:53 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep 08:38:13 * clokep hopes that was his last crash. 08:38:58 <-- gerard-majax_ has quit (Ping timeout) 08:39:27 <EionRobb> once you pop, you just can't stop 08:40:55 --> deltafalcon has joined #instantbird 08:42:16 <-- qlum has quit (Ping timeout) 08:42:17 <-- deltafalcon has quit (Connection reset by peer) 08:42:40 --> qlum has joined #instantbird 08:46:34 <flo-retina> clokep: was the crash before updating? 08:46:53 <clokep> Yes. 08:47:54 <flo-retina> ok :) 08:48:04 --> deltafalcon has joined #instantbird 08:49:03 <-- deltafalcon has quit (Connection reset by peer) 08:49:14 --> deltafalcon has joined #instantbird 08:50:05 <-- deltafalcon has quit (Connection reset by peer) 08:50:28 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: No time to waste, let's go!) 08:51:13 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 08:51:14 * ChanServ sets mode +h Mic 08:52:51 --> deltafalcon has joined #instantbird 08:54:05 <-- deltafalcon has quit (Connection reset by peer) 08:58:52 <clokep> Someone should spend some time on the website at some point. :-/ update the FAQ, etc 08:58:58 * clokep needs to go. 08:59:00 --> deltafalcon has joined #instantbird 08:59:03 <-- clokep has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.4a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 09:03:34 <-- deltafalcon has quit (Connection reset by peer) 09:05:29 <-- flo-retina has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.4a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 09:05:31 --> flo-retina has joined #instantbird 09:05:31 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo-retina flo-retina 09:18:13 --> deltafalcon has joined #instantbird 09:19:04 <-- deltafalcon has quit (Connection reset by peer) 09:23:30 <flo-retina> uh, it looks like that "Announcing Mozilla Hatchery" email sent to mozillians doesn't have any full name in the signatures :-S. 09:27:56 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 09:27:57 * ChanServ sets mode +h aleth 09:32:37 --> gerard-majax_ has joined #instantbird 09:33:51 --> deltafalcon has joined #instantbird 09:44:21 <-- deltafalcon has quit (Connection reset by peer) 09:48:55 --> deltafalcon has joined #instantbird 09:49:24 <aleth> Great, flo managed to reproduce and fix bug 1888 :) 09:49:25 <-- deltafalcon has quit (Connection reset by peer) 09:49:28 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1888 maj, --, ---, florian, NEW, New messages not displayed after detaching and reattaching a conversation tab 09:49:36 <aleth> Mic: Does topic diff use text modifiers? 09:50:00 <Mic> No, it intercepts the setTopic calls in jsProtoHelper iirc 09:51:30 <aleth> I've always meant to look at how you did that ;) 09:51:38 <Mic> The Persona-password manager bug really sucks. 09:51:45 <Mic> I've forgotten my password again :( 09:52:20 <aleth> Mic: Yes! :( Please add a comment to https://github.com/mozilla/browserid/issues/314 and maybe they will eventually take notice 09:52:50 * aleth is annoyed by mozilla teams using github, so you can't reopen bugs if you aren't part of the team 09:53:15 <Mic> No problem, I'll just log into Github and post a comment. No problem since this password is saved in the password manager ;) 09:53:59 <instantbot> aleth@instantbird.org requested feedback from benediktp@ymail.c om for attachment 2383 on bug 1936. 09:54:03 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1936 enh, --, ---, aleth, ASSI, Use logical weeks for "this/last week" groups in log viewer 10:14:36 --> deltafalcon has joined #instantbird 10:17:40 <flo-retina> https://github.com/mozilla/browserid/issues/314#ref-commit-4e3a0b1 is nice. Another reason to love github :-S. 10:19:01 <-- deltafalcon has quit (Connection reset by peer) 10:20:45 <flo-retina> "you can't reopen bugs if you aren't part of the team" apparently one needs to be part of the "browserid" team, or repo, or whatever. (My account is part of "mozilla" on github and that doesn't show any "reopen" control) 10:33:09 --> deltafalcon has joined #instantbird 10:34:55 <-- deltafalcon has quit (Connection reset by peer) 10:37:01 * Mic doesn't like that they don't keep their stuff in one place either. 10:37:21 <Mic> *in just one 10:39:48 <Mic> Oops, I just tweeted "/j #browserid" :D 10:40:16 <Mic> And this channel doesn't even exist as it seems.. 10:40:43 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: No time to waste, let's go!) 10:42:47 * aleth wonders why "the integrity of the update can't be verified" is happening so frequently 10:42:52 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: Ciao) 10:42:55 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 10:42:55 * ChanServ sets mode +h aleth 10:43:20 --> FeuerFliege has joined #instantbird 10:47:37 --> mali has joined #instantbird 10:47:52 --> Optimizer has joined #instantbird 10:59:23 --> deltafalcon has joined #instantbird 11:01:05 <-- deltafalcon has quit (Connection reset by peer) 11:05:37 --> deltafalcon has joined #instantbird 11:09:15 <-- deltafalcon has quit (Connection reset by peer) 11:13:56 --> deltafalcon has joined #instantbird 11:14:46 <-- deltafalcon has quit (Connection reset by peer) 11:17:43 <-- FeuerFliege has quit (Ping timeout) 11:29:01 --> deltafalcon has joined #instantbird 11:30:52 <-- deltafalcon has quit (Connection reset by peer) 11:45:43 <instantbot> aleth@instantbird.org granted review for attachment 2388 on bug 1888. 11:45:45 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1888 maj, --, ---, florian, NEW, New messages not displayed after detaching and reattaching a conversation tab 11:48:35 <instantbot> New Instantbird (UI) bug 1940 filed by aleth@instantbird.org. 11:48:37 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1940 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Fix errors/warnings on detaching/reattaching conversations 11:53:23 <-- flo-retina has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.4a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 11:59:31 <-- Optimizer has quit (Ping timeout) 12:03:31 --> Optimizer has joined #instantbird 12:07:25 <-- Optimizer has quit (Ping timeout) 12:11:35 --> Optimizer has joined #instantbird 12:17:23 <-- Optimizer has quit (Ping timeout) 12:19:46 --> mconley has joined #instantbird 12:21:06 --> Optimizer has joined #instantbird 12:24:16 --> flo-retina has joined #instantbird 12:24:17 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo-retina flo-retina 12:35:25 --> FeuerFliege has joined #instantbird 12:38:28 <-- EionRobb has quit (Connection reset by peer) 12:38:51 --> EionRobb has joined #instantbird 12:39:59 <-- mconley has quit (Input/output error) 12:40:40 <-- EionRobb has quit (Ping timeout) 13:13:19 --> rosonline has joined #instantbird 13:15:42 --> deltafalcon has joined #instantbird 13:17:30 <-- deltafalcon has quit (Connection reset by peer) 13:21:52 --> deltafalcon has joined #instantbird 13:22:09 * flo-retina tried the shiny new "browser debugger" 13:22:19 <flo-retina> then gave up, and is back to dump-style debugging 13:22:48 <-- deltafalcon has quit (Connection reset by peer) 13:26:51 <aleth> flo-retina: Do we include dom_system.xpt? 13:27:27 <flo-retina> no, and it's required to make OS.File work 13:27:29 * aleth is looking at https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=823502 13:27:32 <flo-retina> I have a patch locally to do that 13:27:40 <aleth> Right, so that's what's causing bug 1937 I guess 13:27:42 <flo-retina> is Services.search now using it? 13:27:45 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1937 maj, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Context menus broken 13:27:52 <aleth> Yes 13:28:03 <aleth> Since bug 760036 13:28:06 --> deltafalcon has joined #instantbird 13:28:09 <flo-retina> want me to attach so you can r+? 13:28:17 <aleth> Great :) 13:28:47 <flo-retina> hmm, I guess you can't verify the fix if you can't compile locally, right? 13:28:48 <-- deltafalcon has quit (Connection reset by peer) 13:28:53 <aleth> True 13:29:11 <aleth> You might as well just check it in and I can verify tomorrow ;) 13:29:41 <aleth> Since including it is not touching anything. 13:29:45 <instantbot> florian@instantbird.org requested review from aleth@instantbird.o rg for attachment 2389 on bug 1937. 13:29:48 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1937 maj, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Context menus broken 13:30:25 <instantbot> aleth@instantbird.org granted review for attachment 2389 on bug 1937. 13:33:47 --> deltafalcon has joined #instantbird 13:34:42 <-- deltafalcon has quit (Connection reset by peer) 13:34:47 <flo-retina> if that's really the fix, I would have had a hard time debugging it, as the fix was already included in my local debug build ;) 13:39:08 --> deltafalcon has joined #instantbird 13:45:12 --> mconley has joined #instantbird 13:46:22 <-- deltafalcon has quit (Connection reset by peer) 13:50:59 --> deltafalcon has joined #instantbird 13:51:56 <-- deltafalcon has quit (Connection reset by peer) 14:00:48 --> deltafalcon has joined #instantbird 14:00:48 <-- deltafalcon has quit (Connection reset by peer) 14:05:49 <-- GeekShadow has quit (Ping timeout) 14:27:18 --> deltafalcon has joined #instantbird 14:27:18 <-- deltafalcon has quit (Connection reset by peer) 14:32:46 --> deltafalcon has joined #instantbird 14:33:39 <-- deltafalcon has quit (Connection reset by peer) 14:43:30 --> clokep_wp8 has joined #instantbird 14:43:43 <-- clokep_wp8 has quit (Connection reset by peer) 14:43:50 --> clokep_wp8 has joined #instantbird 14:44:12 <clokep_wp8> My IB crashed right before leaving. :-( 14:44:13 <-- clokep_wp8 has quit (Connection reset by peer) 14:45:42 --> deltafalcon has joined #instantbird 14:48:22 <-- deltafalcon has quit (Connection reset by peer) 14:57:07 <mali> hi everybody 15:03:59 <-- rosonline has quit (Client exited) 15:07:37 <-- Optimizer has quit (Ping timeout) 15:09:34 --> deltafalcon has joined #instantbird 15:10:28 <-- deltafalcon has quit (Connection reset by peer) 15:11:12 --> Optimizer has joined #instantbird 15:12:27 --> sabret00the has joined #instantbird 15:20:25 --> igorko has joined #instantbird 15:20:30 --> deltafalcon has joined #instantbird 15:25:46 <-- deltafalcon has quit (Connection reset by peer) 15:29:38 <-- igorko has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.3 -- http://www.instantbird.com) 15:30:44 --> deltafalcon has joined #instantbird 15:30:45 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: Ciao) 15:33:25 <-- deltafalcon has quit (Connection reset by peer) 15:34:56 --> wnayes has joined #instantbird 15:47:20 --> deltafalcon has joined #instantbird 15:48:10 <-- deltafalcon has quit (Connection reset by peer) 16:02:02 --> deltafalcon has joined #instantbird 16:03:06 <qlum> A few days back I talked about a problem I was having with my account disconnecting and then reconnecting quite a lot, this is still the case however now I know its not just the nightly builds as I tried reverting to the stable build and recreated the irc accounts the problem presisted. This was consistent with me switching isp and router. I don't have any connection errors elsewhere and as long as people keep talking it doesn't disconne 16:03:06 <qlum> if this information is useful but I thought to share it anyway. 16:05:41 <-- deltafalcon has quit (Connection reset by peer) 16:07:05 <flo-retina> looks like something went wrong around character counting to send this message :-/ 16:07:51 <qlum> it was a long one and the counter was somewhere in the minus as it always does with long ones 16:08:02 <flo-retina> yeah 16:08:15 <flo-retina> but it's supposed to send these long messages in several parts 16:08:24 <qlum> it split it in two 16:08:29 <flo-retina> qlum: this is what was received: http://log.bezut.info/instantbird/130419#m294 16:08:52 <qlum> ah 16:08:59 <qlum> yea that is not all 16:09:32 <qlum> ct. I don't know 16:09:34 <flo-retina> I would be curious to know what's visible on your end (where the split was), and to know which version this was with (is it a nightly you are currently using?) 16:09:36 <qlum> was the part missing 16:09:51 <qlum> the split was at the same point 16:09:57 <qlum> just the part I reposted was cut out 16:10:05 <qlum> on your end 16:14:54 <qlum> I have never had any other issues with this or at least none said part of my text was cut out 16:15:13 <qlum> btw why are the posts split up in the first place? 16:17:17 <flo-retina> qlum: because IRC has a character limit 16:17:23 <qlum> ah 16:17:34 <flo-retina> and it's not a fixed limit like on twitter 16:17:43 <flo-retina> the limit is for the command that's sent to the server 16:18:03 <flo-retina> including the "PRIVMSG #instantbird :" prefix 16:18:46 <qlum> I was wondering mainly because on some nets I had very long posts send without breaks 16:19:48 --> deltafalcon has joined #instantbird 16:20:04 <qlum> I guess that's one of the drawbacks of using such an old protocol 16:21:01 <-- FeuerFliege has quit (Ping timeout) 16:21:02 <-- deltafalcon has quit (Connection reset by peer) 16:24:34 <instantbot> New Core - IRC bug 1941 filed by florian@instantbird.org. 16:24:36 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1941 maj, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Some characters lost when splitting messages 16:30:59 <qlum> this splitting issue is nice and all (or not) but what about the content of what I posted 16:31:11 <flo-retina> I didn't understand what you meant :( 16:31:48 <qlum> I ment about the client disconnecting from nets and immediately reconnecting. 16:32:03 <qlum> something that has happened to me ever since I switched isp and router 16:32:04 <flo-retina> was there an error message when it disconnected? 16:32:08 <qlum> no 16:32:18 <qlum> it just does so once in a while 16:32:24 <qlum> especially when the chat is idle 16:32:24 <flo-retina> (if it's a problem we previously discussed here, I don't remember, so I may miss some context) 16:32:59 <flo-retina> aah, weren't you the person with the strange "ping timeout"s in the debug log? 16:33:10 <qlum> yea that could be it 16:34:08 <flo-retina> looks like the ISP or router is causing the issue :-/ 16:34:25 <qlum> the router is the likely culprit 16:34:42 <qlum> as the isp may be different but uses the same network 16:34:49 <flo-retina> ISPs can do that kind of annoyance sometimes. 16:35:13 <qlum> well I don't have the problem anywhere else 16:35:17 <flo-retina> My phone's former carrier used to drop TCP connections as soon as 4MB had been transferred on them 16:35:34 --> deltafalcon has joined #instantbird 16:36:00 <qlum> well it can't be intentional as net neutrality laws in the Netherlands would prevent such practices 16:36:29 <flo-retina> I haven't heard about laws that prevent doing things that are against the law ;) 16:36:30 <-- deltafalcon has quit (Connection reset by peer) 16:36:53 <qlum> well I don't see why they would love to cause ping outs in irc 16:36:56 <flo-retina> what my ISP was doing was clearly something it wasn't allowed to do by any contract or whatever ;). 16:37:35 <-- gerard-majax_ has quit (Ping timeout) 16:38:19 <flo-retina> qlum: something like a router configured to drop connections that have been "mostly inactive" for a while 16:38:29 <qlum> I could try another irc client to see if it also happens there 16:38:32 <flo-retina> but that's just speculation :) 16:38:49 <flo-retina> I think someone suggested tweaking something to ping the server more frequently 16:39:16 <qlum> that could help with such issues 16:39:17 --> GeekShadow has joined #instantbird 16:39:32 <qlum> if there are no servers that don't like being pinged to often 16:40:34 <flo-retina> ok, now I understand what I was saying that what was being said didn't make sense at the time 16:40:43 <flo-retina> it's not the 30s delay that needs to be changed; it's the 2 minutes one 16:41:02 <flo-retina> http://lxr.instantbird.org/instantbird/source/chat/modules/socket.jsm#284 The delay set there. 16:41:13 <flo-retina> we could make it configurable per-account 16:43:12 --> FeuerFliege has joined #instantbird 16:45:46 --> deltafalcon has joined #instantbird 16:45:47 <-- deltafalcon has quit (Connection reset by peer) 16:46:04 --> Mook_as has joined #instantbird 16:47:12 <-- Optimizer has quit (Ping timeout) 16:51:03 --> Optimizer has joined #instantbird 17:04:48 --> Even has joined #instantbird 17:04:49 * ChanServ sets mode +o Even 17:05:51 <-- Optimizer has quit (Ping timeout) 17:07:16 --> Optimizer has joined #instantbird 17:14:05 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 17:37:15 <-- flo-retina has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.4a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 17:47:04 <-- Optimizer has quit (Ping timeout) 17:48:36 <-- FeuerFliege has quit (Ping timeout) 17:51:04 --> Optimizer has joined #instantbird 18:06:50 <-- Optimizer has quit (Ping timeout) 18:10:11 --> Optimizer has joined #instantbird 18:16:28 <-- Optimizer has quit (Ping timeout) 18:20:34 --> Optimizer has joined #instantbird 18:21:01 --> gerard-majax_ has joined #instantbird 18:22:49 <-- MMN-o has quit (Ping timeout) 18:26:11 <-- gerard-majax_ has quit (Ping timeout) 18:27:15 <-- mpmc has quit (Connection reset by peer) 18:36:40 --> gerard-majax_ has joined #instantbird 18:40:05 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 18:40:06 * ChanServ sets mode +h Mic 18:46:54 <-- gerard-majax_ has quit (Ping timeout) 18:49:38 --> unghost has joined #instantbird 18:51:18 <instantbot> unghost@gmail.com requested review from clokep@gmail.com for attachment 2390 on bug 1769. 18:51:22 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1769 enh, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Make names of protocols localizable 18:54:38 <Mic> Great, now that I've looked up my Persona password, MDN is in read-only mode... 19:00:38 <-- mconley has quit (Input/output error) 19:01:06 --> mconley has joined #instantbird 19:04:07 <unghost> Are there any plans to produce Instantbird 1.4 64-bit Linux builds? 19:04:17 --> MMN-o has joined #instantbird 19:08:05 <Mic> unghost: no 19:09:28 <Mic> We don't have the necessary build infrastructure for that yet if I'm correct and that won't change before 1.4 (which is going to be released during the next few weeks). 19:09:30 <Mic> Sorry. 19:11:46 <unghost> Bad. I'm compiling it now to test my l10n. 19:12:44 <unghost> it's hard to run i686 build, It constantly whines about some library 19:12:50 <unghost> missing 19:12:55 <unghost> :-) 19:13:30 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 19:13:30 * ChanServ sets mode +h aleth 19:14:58 <Mic> No idea, I'm on Windows. 32bit programs run perfectly fine on 64bit systems there. 19:16:07 <Mic> https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=395 19:16:12 <instantbot> Bug 395 enh, --, ---, nobody, NEW, 64-bit builds 19:16:39 <Mic> Even: did you build the 64bit builds of Instantbird 1.0? 19:17:52 <unghost> There were contributed Linux 64-bit builds for 1.2 - http://ftp.instantbird.com/instantbird/releases/1.2/contrib/ 19:18:02 <unghost> But not for 1.3 19:18:12 <Mic> Ah, for 1.2 as well? 19:18:13 <aleth> unghost: I (and more importantly Even) would also like 64bit builds, but it will not happen before the new server is set up... 19:18:18 <Mic> Yes, I see. 19:19:07 <aleth> Mic: IB runs fine when you have 32-bit libraries installed, but there are some minor graphics issues 19:19:34 <unghost> No problemo, it's nice to use sometimes computer power on 100%. 19:19:58 <Mic> bbl 19:22:50 <instantbot> aleth@instantbird.org cancelled feedback?(benediktp@ymail.c om) for attachment 2383 on bug 1936. 19:22:51 <instantbot> aleth@instantbird.org requested feedback from benediktp@ymail.c om for attachment 2391 on bug 1936. 19:22:55 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1936 enh, --, ---, aleth, ASSI, Use logical weeks for "this/last week" groups in log viewer 19:23:11 <instantbot> aleth@instantbird.org requested feedback from clokep@gmail.com for attachment 2391 on bug 1936. 19:23:48 <-- Optimizer has quit (Ping timeout) 19:25:25 <-- MMN-o has quit (Ping timeout) 19:26:29 --> nhnt11 has joined #instantbird 19:31:33 <-- nhnt11 has quit (Input/output error) 19:31:40 --> nhnt11 has joined #instantbird 19:40:31 <-- nhnt11 has quit (Input/output error) 19:40:56 --> nhnt11 has joined #instantbird 19:44:04 <-- nhnt11 has quit (Input/output error) 19:44:30 --> nhnt11 has joined #instantbird 19:46:15 --> jb has joined #instantbird 19:47:40 <-- nhnt11 has quit (Input/output error) 19:47:44 --> nhnt11 has joined #instantbird 19:51:02 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 20:29:28 --> harlock has joined #instantbird 20:35:34 <Mic> Localization sucks :( 20:38:23 <Mic> I don't need IB translated to german but I'd want the date format as it is common for the german locale. At the moment I set general.useragent.locale to "de-DE" which gives the correct format. Unfortunately I don't see a way to get the start of the week right :( 20:39:09 --> flo-retina has joined #instantbird 20:39:09 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo-retina flo-retina 20:39:38 <aleth> Mic: Because it's stored in a dtd? That's annoying. 20:39:46 <Mic> Yes :( 20:40:57 <aleth> JS Date support is a bit incomplete in that respect. 20:48:23 <flo-retina> http://log.bezut.info/instantbird/130419#m390 lol. Even when I can successfully login, I avoid MDN because of the crazy wiki :( 20:50:03 <flo-retina> unghost: http://log.bezut.info/instantbird/130419#m393 I see no reason why we couldn't do what we did for 1.0 (ie linux 64 bit builds somewhere on the ftp, but without crash reporting and without automated updates) 20:50:24 <Mic> flo-retina: the Services.jsm page says that Services.search isn't available in Thunderbird. That seems only to hold for Tb < 3.3a[whatever] 20:50:28 <Mic> I wanted to fix that. 20:51:18 <flo-retina> Mic: the "contrib" 64 builds are from my desktop machine (that runs ubuntu 64). They aren't supported because they are from someone's machine rather than from the automated build infrastructure. 20:52:10 <Mic> I've seen that they are "contributed" and not supported but I guess some people wouldn't care ;) 20:52:42 <aleth> They might when twitter stops working ;) 20:52:51 <flo-retina> Mic: you could write an add-on overriding the .dtd file ;) 20:52:59 <aleth> But yeah. 20:53:39 <flo-retina> hmm 20:53:47 <unghost> Mic, Where have you found "start of the week" in dtd? 20:53:50 <flo-retina> maybe I should just edit the wiki page of the release process to remember to produce them 20:54:11 <Mic> unghost: it's in datetimepicker.dtd, aleth found that. 20:54:14 <flo-retina> unghost: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/toolkit/locales/en-US/chrome/global/datetimepicker.dtd#7 20:54:32 <aleth> well, flo-retina found it ;) 20:54:47 <aleth> unghost: we were kind of discussing bug 1936 20:54:50 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1936 enh, --, ---, aleth, ASSI, Use logical weeks for "this/last week" groups in log viewer 20:55:05 <flo-retina> aleth: re bug 1941, the second part seems really unfortunate :( 20:55:08 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1941 maj, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Some characters lost when splitting messages 20:55:10 <aleth> flo-retina: Yes :( 20:55:46 <unghost> And it works? I have "Sunday" in this week group though it set in "1" 20:56:12 <aleth> unghost: The patch hasn't landed yet ;) 20:56:33 <aleth> Currently the "this week" group is just the past 7 days 20:58:01 <unghost> FWIW, is "search plugins" window works for everyone? "OK" and "Cancel" buttons don't work for me. I can close it only with X 20:58:34 <aleth> unghost: Probably bug 1937, try again tomorrow please? ;) 20:58:38 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1937 maj, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Context menus broken 20:58:38 <Mic> unghost: can't try. The context menu is broken at the moment. 20:58:53 <flo-retina> aleth: interestingly, the ":gravel.mozilla.org 001 flo2 :Welcome to the Mozilla IRC Network flo2!Instantbir@<hostname>" is the real hostname, but ":flo2!Instantbir@moz-87C33FDA.kimsufi.com JOIN :#testib" is the obfuscated one. 20:58:57 <unghost> ÐеÑка вÑемени: 20.04.2013 00:58:39 20:58:58 <unghost> ÐÑибка: NS_ERROR_XPC_GS_RETURNED_FAILURE: Component returned failure code: 0x80570016 (NS_ERROR_XPC_GS_RETURNED_FAILURE) [nsIJSCID.getService] 20:58:58 <unghost> ÐÑÑоÑник: chrome://instantbird/content/engineManager.js 20:58:59 <unghost> СÑÑока: 261 20:59:07 <unghost> in error console 20:59:12 <flo-retina> aleth: so it seems with a hack we can grab the obfuscated hostname the first time the user joins a channel 20:59:13 <unghost> ok, will do 20:59:17 <Mic> unghost: please use pastebin 20:59:24 <unghost> oops 20:59:41 <unghost> will do 20:59:54 <aleth> unghost: That should be patched tomorrow. 20:59:59 <flo-retina> that error message looks indeed exactly like bug 1937 21:00:02 <aleth> (Hopefully) 21:00:15 <Mic> "Stroka" = line? 21:00:18 <unghost> yes 21:00:22 <Mic> :) 21:00:44 <aleth> flo-retina: That's interesting. I wonder if it's server-independent 21:01:03 <Mic> Cyrillic isn't that terrible when you know what maps to what ;) 21:01:11 <flo-retina> aleth: and I wonder if we can do something when the user only uses private messages 21:01:19 <Mic> The ch/tch/sh letters are confusing though;) 21:01:36 <aleth> flo-retina: I was wondering if we could send ourselves a PM 21:01:50 <aleth> But that probably wouldn't help. 21:02:54 <aleth> Well, it seems to work actually :) 21:02:59 <flo-retina> Components.classes["@mozilla.org/browser/search-service;1"].getService(Components.interfaces.nsIBrowserSearchService); is broken in my nightly, and works fine in my debug build 21:03:01 <aleth> Very hackish though. 21:03:04 <flo-retina> so the patch seems promising :) 21:03:34 <flo-retina> aleth: another solution is to use a heuristic 21:06:39 <Mic> Do we need always visible timestamps on system messages? 21:07:25 --> harlock1 has joined #instantbird 21:08:02 <-- harlock has quit (Ping timeout) 21:08:09 <Mic> I've hidden the system message bubble since we talked about that and I start to find the timestamps annoying too ;) 21:09:10 <aleth> flo-retina: We can fix it by using the whois response for our own nick. 21:09:25 <flo-retina> Mic: I think we can get rid of the timestamps there if we handle variable vertical spacing of the syst messages based on the time ;) 21:09:49 <flo-retina> aleth: ah, nice :) 21:14:03 <flo-retina> aleth: I wonder how it's possible that we spent so much time polishing that message splitting thing to split between words whenever possible, and never noticed that it was so broken 21:14:44 <flo-retina> maybe both clokep and you have the first part of your hostname that's longer than moz-8327047D :-S 21:16:48 <aleth> I guess so. 21:17:47 <-- nhnt11 has quit (Ping timeout) 21:20:02 <flo-retina> anyway, I'm glad I filed the bug! 21:20:04 <flo-retina> is that 1.4-wanted? 21:21:27 --> nhnt11 has joined #instantbird 21:23:18 <-- nhnt11 has quit (Ping timeout) 21:27:21 --> nhnt11 has joined #instantbird 21:29:42 --> harlock has joined #instantbird 21:30:10 <-- harlock1 has quit (Ping timeout) 21:33:05 --> gerard-majax_ has joined #instantbird 21:33:39 <aleth> Might as well fix it. 21:33:51 <aleth> It won't need strings... 21:35:56 <-- gerard-majax_ has quit (Ping timeout) 21:41:48 <instantbot> aleth@instantbird.org requested review from clokep@gmail.com for attachment 2392 on bug 1941. 21:41:50 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1941 maj, --, ---, aleth, ASSI, Some characters lost when splitting messages 21:47:58 <-- mconley has quit (Ping timeout) 21:54:05 <Mic> Good night 21:55:35 <aleth> good night :) 22:02:51 <-- harlock has quit (Quit: Baibai) 22:13:45 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: Ciao) 22:19:07 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: No time to waste, let's go!) 22:47:36 <-- flo-retina has quit (Ping timeout) 22:48:13 <-- nhnt11 has left #instantbird () 22:54:31 --> flo-retina has joined #instantbird 22:54:31 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo-retina flo-retina 22:57:08 <-- unghost has quit (Quit: Ð£Ñ Ð¾Ð¶Ñ Ñ Ð¾Ñ Ð²Ð°Ñ (xchat 2.4.5 или ÑÑаÑÑе)) 23:00:33 <instantbot> florian@instantbird.org set the Resolution field on bug 1888 to FIXED. 23:00:35 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1888 maj, --, 1.4, florian, RESO FIXED, New messages not displayed after detaching and reattaching a conversation tab 23:02:53 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/b4bc5003679b - Florian Quèze - Bug 1888 - New messages not displayed after detaching and reattaching a conversation tab, r=aleth. 23:02:54 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/a2180a3ded14 - Florian Quèze - Bug 1937 - Context menus broken - package dom_system.xpt (required by OS.File) in an attempt to fix Services.search, r=aleth. 23:03:25 <instantbot> florian@instantbird.org set the Resolution field on bug 1937 to FIXED. 23:03:27 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1937 maj, --, 1.4, florian, RESO FIXED, Context menus broken 23:05:55 <-- mali has left #instantbird () 23:14:15 <instant-buildbot> build #383 of macosx-onCommit is complete: Failure [failed compile] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/macosx-onCommit/builds/383 blamelist: Florian Qu?ze <florian@instantbird.org> 23:29:29 <flo-retina> bah, I thought that was fixed with the moz20 update :( 23:55:07 <instant-buildbot> build #404 of linux-onCommit is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/linux-onCommit/builds/404