#instantbird log on 03 26 2013

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00:00:03 <clokep> Mic: Nice. :)
00:00:12 <clokep> flo-retina: I just tried to use it and got lots of errors about the tag not existing.
00:02:36 <Mic> Was bug 1108 ported to Thunderbird? It's not in TB 17.0.4 at least :(
00:02:40 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1108 min, --, 1.3, bugi, RESO FIXED, Names of folder and files are not checked against forbidden names.
00:03:04 <clokep> Mic: It's probably in Thunderbird 19 or 20.
00:03:35 <clokep> Mic: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=812921
00:03:47 <clokep> TB 19.
00:04:30 <flo-retina> Mic: :)
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00:07:58 <Mic> I'm not going to fork the add-on, I think I'll rather go with feature-detection ;)
00:08:48 <clokep> flo-retina: How quickly will http://pastebin.instantbird.com/163290 get an r-? ;)
00:09:10 <clokep> (for bug 1691)
00:09:13 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1691 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Tooltip for IRC conversations don't show whois information (if conversation target isn't buddy)
00:10:57 <Mic> I was about to go to bed but I think I'll still wait for the answer now ;)
00:12:17 <clokep> It doesn't appear in my buddy list either, which is good.
00:13:20 <flo-retina> clokep: if you need an r-, then "r-" :-P
00:13:31 <clokep> :P
00:13:39 <clokep> flo-retina: But really, does that seem reasonable or the total wrong way to go?
00:14:11 <flo-retina> clokep: so you are putting all the target of private conversations in the contact list?
00:14:30 <clokep> flo-retina: They don't appear in the contact list.
00:14:51 <flo-retina> have you hidden all the tags? (if so new buddies don't appear)
00:14:58 <clokep> No.
00:15:02 <clokep> I haven't hidden any tags.
00:15:07 <flo-retina> the "IRC Backend" tag will still appear in the tags context menu
00:15:24 <clokep> Ah I lied...
00:15:33 <clokep> When I did it with Mic it appeared in my contact list all of a sudden.
00:15:36 <clokep> But not with flo-retina. :-S
00:15:51 <flo-retina> http://mxr.mozilla.org/comm-central/source/chat/protocols/irc/irc.js#986 not making the buddy appear in the list would be scary
00:16:08 <clokep> Yes.
00:19:12 <flo-retina> clokep: can you do an addFakeBuddy that would do like http://mxr.mozilla.org/comm-central/source/chat/protocols/irc/irc.js#981 but without the Services.contacts.accountBuddyAdded call, without a tag, and without preventing a real buddy from being added?
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00:20:56 <flo-retina> would making hasBuddy return false do the right thing?
00:22:31 <clokep> flo-retina: Maybe. I think code assumes the imIBuddy is made though
00:23:31 <flo-retina> do you really need it?
00:24:21 <Mic> Good night
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00:27:02 <flo-retina> Good night! :)
00:42:25 <clokep> flo-retina: That doesn't seem to work...or maybe I've just messed up my profile at this point. ;)
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09:12:24 <Mic> hmm, seems that I misunderstood what foudfou wanted from me. I thought he wanted something that sort of works to restore his session but apparently he was rather interested to get it landed in Thunderbird itself.
09:16:27 <flo-retina> ah, he didn't give you the link to the bug he's trying to fix?
09:17:40 <flo-retina> he's trying to fix https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=789450
09:18:13 <flo-retina> I discussed with him the code changes he needs in the Tb front-end to reopen the Chat tab, and told him if he wanted to actually reopen the conversations he should look at what your add-on does
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09:18:26 <Mic> Rather "he's trying to make me fix https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=789450" ? ;)
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09:18:48 <flo-retina> Mic: not sure. He seemed to have already worked on it and to have some code chances
09:18:58 <flo-retina> Mic: he was definitely poking at the code yesterday when he talked to me
09:19:08 <flo-retina> The Tb front-end code
09:19:51 <Mic> I'm not really interested to do this before we fixed this for IB properly.
09:20:36 <flo-retina> yeah, you don't have to fix any Tb front-end stuff
09:21:42 <Mic> I think the changes on TB might be very few once we've a way to restore a session.
09:21:48 <Mic> *TB side
09:22:03 <flo-retina> I think he already had them yesterday
09:22:33 <flo-retina> he had the code to restore the tab, and when he started talking to me he was stuck on the chat core not being initialized at startup in Tb
09:22:41 <Mic> I had to comment out the use of the interruptions manager and the "support" for conversations on hold and it sort of worked in TB after that.
09:23:05 <flo-retina> (we do it pseudo-"asynchronously" in a way that ensure there will be at most one master password prompt at startup)
09:34:50 <flo-retina> another js-sip project: http://jssip.net/
09:35:16 <flo-retina> may be worth looking, especially to double check that it doesn't make the JS-SIP SoC project a one-week project
09:47:25 <Mic> http://log.bezut.info/instantbird/130326#m77 sounds like he wants to check "Services.core.initialized" and wait for "prpl-init" if necessary.
09:49:25 <flo-retina> Mic: there's a tb specific notification
09:49:49 <flo-retina> and he shouldn't touch Services.core directly
09:50:17 <flo-retina> from chat-messenger-overlay.js, he should check this.ChatCore.initialized
09:51:30 <Mic> If one shouldn't rely on Services.core in Thunderbird then Session Restore won't be suitable anyways.
09:51:49 <flo-retina> well, depends what he wants to do
09:52:43 <flo-retina> but I think it's not a good idea to touch Services.core directly if http://mxr.mozilla.org/comm-central/source/mail/components/im/modules/chatHandler.jsm#74 hasn't been fired yet
09:52:53 <flo-retina> btw, chatHandler is the closest equivalent to imWindows.jsm
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10:35:29 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com set the Resolution field on bug 583 to WORKSFORME.
10:35:31 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=583 nor, --, ---, nobody, RESO WORKSFORME, Need binary component to handle "native windows"
10:38:54 <Mic> I wanted to try it before closing the bug but it's OK then ;)
10:39:41 <clokep> "try it"? How?
10:41:23 <Mic> I'm using window handles in the extension to keep the contact list always on top.
10:41:33 <Mic> *that keeps
10:41:58 <Mic> It's calling a Windows API to achieve that...
10:45:07 <clokep> Ah, I see.
10:55:49 <clokep> I probably don't want to know how you currently get the handle. ;)
10:58:32 <clokep> Our unconfirmed list has gotten excessive again. :-[
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11:39:38 <flo-retina> clokep: the whole UNCO list still fits on my screen without scrolling ;)
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11:42:06 <Mic> ~ 5% of all open bugs are unconfirmed
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11:59:09 <clokep_work> Yeah, I guess that isn't too ridiculous.
11:59:14 <clokep_work> Still...some of them are probably WONTFIX.
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12:18:44 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com set the Resolution field on bug 1605 to WONTFIX.
12:18:46 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1605 min, --, ---, nobody, RESO WONTFIX, Instantbird windows do no change with Windows theme
12:19:24 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com set the Resolution field on bug 1598 to INCOMPLETE.
12:19:27 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1598 nor, --, ---, nobody, RESO INCOMPLETE, Problems with SIP accounts
12:26:55 <clokep_work> Someone should try to confirm bug 1339...
12:26:58 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1339 nor, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, Yahoo Messenger Ignore/Block list is cleared after signing in Instantbird
12:30:38 <clokep_work> Is bug 1871 WONTFIX?
12:30:41 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1871 maj, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, not playing incoming message sound when there are more than 2 users in the conversation
12:31:59 <aleth> It sounds like a potential screen reader issue that is mistitled?
12:32:18 <aleth> "when i am talking in irc paralelly i am doing other things and my screen-reader
12:32:18 <aleth> doesn't read messages in minimized window."
12:33:07 <aleth> Hard to figure out what the real issue is though from that info.
12:34:33 <aleth> Wontfix seems appropriate...
12:35:59 <clokep_work> If it's jiuts about the incoming message sound, I think it's wONTFIX, but I wouldn't be too upset adding an option for that.
12:36:41 <aleth> It could be "tab colour changes are not accessible"
12:36:49 <aleth> But I'm not sure.
12:37:19 <aleth> Mic: any reason that add-on isn't public?
12:37:41 <aleth> https://addons.instantbird.org/en-US/instantbird/addon/341
12:38:32 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com set the Resolution field on bug 1871 to WONTFIX.
12:38:34 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1871 maj, --, ---, nobody, RESO WONTFIX, not playing incoming message sound when there are more than 2 users in the conversation
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12:40:54 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com set the Resolution field on bug 1669 to WORKSFORME.
12:40:56 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1669 maj, --, ---, nobody, RESO WORKSFORME, Certain IRC channels cause freeze in conversation window.
12:43:31 <aleth> The account manager isn't scrolled to the top when it opens anymore - regression?
12:43:49 <Mic> aleth: I'm not sure, maybe I wasn't happy that it's not customizable, maybe I didn't think many people would use it, .. no idea
12:43:57 <Mic> I can look at it if you like
12:44:14 <clokep_work> aleth: I noticed that last night. I think it is a regression, yes.
12:44:20 <aleth> Mic: If it solved that user's problem, it's worth making it findable ;)
12:45:25 <Mic> aleth: OK, I've sent me a memmo to remember.
12:45:33 <Mic> bye!
12:45:35 <Mic> *memo
12:45:47 <aleth> Interesting use of memoserv :D
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12:49:27 <clokep_work> I send memos to myself all the time. ;)
12:54:34 <flo-retina> the account manager seems scrolled to the "disconnect" button of the first (selected) account
12:55:25 <flo-retina> not sure, but likely a regression from my focus fix
13:04:11 <clokep_work> Would anyone be upset if I WONTFIX bug 1217? The conversation didn't really go anywhere, it's unclear if we really want a new logo, etc.
13:04:15 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1217 enh, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, A new logo for Instantbird
13:04:30 <flo-retina> ecaron maybe? :(
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13:06:33 <clokep_work> I don't think ecaron cares about us anymore.
13:08:46 <aleth> I wouldn't wontfix it, maybe someone will have an idea someday
13:09:04 <aleth> and it's not confirmed after all ;)
13:09:48 <flo-retina> aleth: I think it's INVALID because the goals aren't clearly stated: what is it trying to achieve/fix?
13:10:04 <flo-retina> aleth: but I don't think that's the best way to close it without hurting anybody :(
13:10:32 <aleth> flo-retina: It's not a bug, it's a place to dump logo suggestions. If you close it you will only have to open another...
13:11:33 <instantbot> New Instantbird (UI) bug 1909 filed by clokep@gmail.com.
13:11:35 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1909 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Account manager scrolled to (dis)connect button
13:12:08 <flo-retina> aleth: minus.com is a better place to dump random suggestions
13:12:20 <flo-retina> aleth: if we want to get something changed, we should know what we are trying to fix.
13:12:33 * clokep_work guesses this Etienne is someone flo actually knows. ;)
13:12:37 <aleth> flo-retina: Oh, I don't disagree about the goals etc
13:12:49 <flo-retina> that said, I think we all agree that our current logos aren't optimal
13:13:00 <flo-retina> but they are good enough that most alternative suggestions I've seen suck more
13:13:12 <clokep_work> Yes. I agree.
13:13:18 <clokep_work> I haven't really liked many other ideas we've seen.
13:13:20 <aleth> Yeah.
13:14:00 <flo-retina> clokep_work: yeah, I know Etienne. We were in the same school. And Even/Etienne worked together on lots of projects.
13:14:18 <clokep_work> Cool. :)
13:14:28 <flo-retina> he came here a few times
13:14:34 <flo-retina> with the nick ornthalas
13:18:14 * clokep_work wishes we could drop libpurple's XMPP...
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13:20:37 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com set the Resolution field on bug 1553 to INCOMPLETE.
13:20:40 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1553 nor, --, ---, nobody, RESO INCOMPLETE, Instantbird doesn't notify you when a new contact adds you on msn
13:21:38 <daytonb> Is there a setting I've overlooked in the menus to have Instantbird start itself of computer startup (Windows 7 if it matters)?
13:22:07 <clokep_work> daytonb: Add a shortcut to "Startup" in the Start Menu.
13:22:14 <clokep_work> Build in Windows feature, why would we include it? ;)
13:22:21 <clokep_work> s/Build/Built/
13:23:38 <daytonb> Thanks, I didn't think of that
13:24:09 <clokep_work> daytonb: No problem! :)
13:24:23 <clokep_work> (We do have a feature request open for it...but no one has implemented it.)
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13:53:46 <clokep_work> Hello. :)
13:55:30 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com set the Resolution field on bug 1550 to INVALID.
13:55:33 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1550 nor, --, ---, nobody, RESO INVALID, Menu bar disappeared after installing Unity addons.
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14:03:55 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com set the Resolution field on bug 1749 to INCOMPLETE.
14:03:58 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1749 maj, --, ---, nobody, RESO INCOMPLETE, Accessibility broken with Window-Eyes and JAWS
14:11:10 <instantbot> florian@instantbird.org set the Resolution field on bug 790 to INCOMPLETE.
14:11:13 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=790 nor, --, ---, nobody, RESO INCOMPLETE, Some messages lost during magic copy
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14:16:09 <clokep_work> Thanks florian.
14:19:48 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com set the Resolution field on bug 1401 to INCOMPLETE.
14:19:50 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1401 nor, --, ---, nobody, RESO INCOMPLETE, Offline MSN contacts don't receive all sent messages
14:22:36 * clokep_work is being vicious with bugs today.
15:06:22 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com set the Resolution field on bug 1819 to WONTFIX.
15:06:25 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1819 enh, --, ---, nobody, RESO WONTFIX, [Wish] Twitter report for Mention, Reply, Favorite
15:14:25 <clokep_work> flo-retina, Mic, aleth: Maybe we should talk about a few things we'd like to see in a logo, but that in bug 1217 and leave it open?
15:14:28 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1217 enh, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, A new logo for Instantbird
15:14:44 <clokep_work> I know one of the reasons ecaron got annoyed w/ that bug was because he felt he didn't get feedback about what we wanted.
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17:06:58 <aleth> clokep_work: do you remember how to apply git patches with new files in them?
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17:36:05 <Mic> Thanks for notifying me of the update, it sucks that AIO can't send emails for this on its own :(
17:36:09 <Mic> @aleth 
17:36:53 <aleth> Mic: Yes. What's worse is when it's add-on authors who don't know this :-/
17:37:38 <Mic> Usually I try to check at least once a week.
17:37:53 <aleth> Thanks for doing that then!
17:39:00 <Mic> What choice do I have? :P
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17:43:36 <clokep_work> aleth: Apply them in hg or in git?
17:44:41 <aleth> clokep_work: I get an "error: $FILE: No such file or directory" for the new files
17:44:51 <aleth> And can't remember the flag that will create them...
17:45:25 * aleth grumbles about git and new files
17:47:11 <clokep_work> aleth: I have no idea what you're trying to do. :-/ What do you mean by "apply"?
17:47:31 <clokep_work> You mean the actual "git apply" command?
17:47:34 <aleth> clokep_work: "git apply"
17:47:35 <clokep_work> It should create new files fine.
17:47:48 <clokep_work> As far as I know.
17:48:02 <aleth> clokep_work: That's what I thought too :( I wonder what is broken. Is it git or my tree...
17:48:05 <clokep_work> Personally I always use an alias: alias.import apply --reject
17:49:18 <aleth> Right, but --reject just mimics patch, so that's not it.
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17:51:25 <clokep_work> aleth: Just use patch? :P
17:51:43 <aleth> clokep_work: Yeah, I did it by hand. :-[
17:51:57 <clokep_work> I was going to suggest removing the file getting added and add it by hand, yeah...
17:52:01 <aleth> (i.e. using patch and then manually adding the missing files)
17:52:01 <clokep_work> What patch are yo looking at?
17:52:12 <aleth> bug 1732
17:52:13 * clokep_work guesses the Twitter URLs one.
17:52:15 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1732 enh, --, ---, aleth, ASSI, Port the log tree and concatenated daily logs from TB
17:52:19 <clokep_work> Ah.
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18:44:45 <Mook_as> yeah, that's not in the form git apply expects; it wants new files to 1) have a old name of /dev/null, and 2) have some git metadata near the "index" line.  Guessing that file was generated by hg diff?
18:48:59 * clokep_work reads that as "git sucks" ;)
18:54:00 <Mook_as> no, git sucks is when you realize git fails to import a patch it generated :p (happened to me yesterday...)
18:54:45 <flo-retina> ahah :)
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18:58:14 <clokep_work> Well I dislike that I can do "git diff > foo.diff && git checkout . && git apply foo.diff"
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19:12:15 <aleth> Mook_as: The patch was actually generated by git and seems to have the right metadata. Go figure.
19:12:47 <aleth> Mook_as: For the record, touching the new files by hand before git apply is the easiest fix.
19:13:38 <Mook_as> huh, I get things like http://paste.stacka.to/raponakeri.diff instead
19:14:25 <aleth> Mook_as: I'm never sure how git expects people to actually create new files ;)
19:14:34 <Mook_as> aleth: MAGIC
19:15:42 * aleth tries "git magic", sighs
19:16:04 <aleth> probably needs a --black flag.
19:16:15 * clokep_work thinks the guy in bug 1899 really has no idea what I'm suggesting. :-/
19:16:18 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1899 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Support Q on QuakeNet as an IRC service
19:16:20 <clokep_work> Which shows how broken people's IRC behavior is.
19:17:57 <aleth> clokep_work: Yeah, because it's completely unclear to most people what those strings they enter actually do. Usually not quite what they think...
19:18:00 <flo-retina> clokep_work: yesterday there was a thread on yammer of someone annoyed by the sand.mozilla.org and nickserv tabs opening at each reconnection to moznet on Adium
19:18:16 <flo-retina> clokep_work: others suggested to fix it by blocking these 2 nicks :(
19:18:37 <aleth> great suggestion :D
19:19:31 <clokep_work> flo-retina: I hope you suggested fixing it by using Instantbird?
19:19:33 <clokep_work> (Wtf is yammer?)
19:20:15 <flo-retina> yammer is private clones of facebook (only for employees of a company), and owner by Microsoft
19:20:18 <flo-retina> *owned
19:20:31 <clokep_work> Ah, interesting.
19:20:36 <flo-retina> clokep_work: nah, I noticed the thread only today, and the person had already replied "that worked, thanks!" :(
19:20:56 <clokep_work> I still find it weird that Mozilla has a lot of privae stuff. :-S
19:24:19 <flo-retina> ...
19:28:43 <Mic> "It seems your message contains three dots in a row. Would you like to replace them with a proper ellipsis character? [Y] N"
19:28:51 <Mic> :P
19:30:58 <clokep_work> We should add that! As a nice dialog which blocks more input. ;)
19:31:25 <aleth> or indeed "It seems your contact is using Chatzilla. Suggest an upgrade? [Y] N" ;)
19:31:41 <flo-retina> and a nice way to screw all the people who haven't correctly set the encoding to utf8 on their client :-P
19:31:52 <Mic> I'm hating modal dialogs now since I connected TB (with a lot of outdated account passwords) yesterday.
19:32:03 <flo-retina> :)
19:32:20 <Mic> There must have been like ~7 dialogs?
19:32:41 <clokep_work> Mic: I had issues where I had a modal dialog popping up for my password...and if I wasn't at my computer it would time out...then it'd throw ANOTHER modal dialog telling me it timed out.
19:33:02 <flo-retina> all these lovely dialogs :)
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19:37:13 <Mic> clokep_work: thanks for working through the unconfirmed bugs! :)
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19:41:54 <aleth> clokep_work: FF piles up master password request dialogs too.
19:42:14 <aleth> They aren't modal, but that almost makes it worse.
19:42:47 <aleth> Nothing like closing FF to discover some leftover dialogs...
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19:44:15 <clokep_work> Mic: You're welcome. Some need to be updating again in a few weeks (when people don't respond to requests for more info).
19:44:28 * clokep_work wonders if adev is "a dev[eloper]" or something else. ;)
19:44:50 * adev is now known as aleth_dev
19:45:16 <aleth_dev> Shows how lazy a typer I can be I guess...
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19:45:45 * aleth trying to understand his own code.
19:46:01 <Mic> "adev" had a better nick color ;)
19:46:08 <aleth> That's the problem with WIPs...
19:50:00 <flo-retina> Mic: the nick color is the same until he leaves and rejoins ;)
19:50:52 <Mic> Or until I put on hold an restore ;)
19:51:14 <clokep_work> Bah, aleth_dev is the same as like everyone else in this room. :(
19:51:32 <clokep_work> aleth: This the same bug from earlier?
19:51:50 <aleth> clokep_work: Yes, just a part of the patch I never uploaded, and haven't looked at for months.
19:52:10 <aleth> Anything to do with time bubbles is always complicated :-/
19:55:21 <clokep_work> That's what makes it worth it. :)
19:56:21 <aleth> It's just half-finished code... so you wonder which bits were working at the time and which weren't ;)
19:56:54 <clokep_work> You probably don't want to see my mq. ;)
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20:27:06 <clokep_work> If someone is using git and wants some fun...here's a good alias:
20:27:06 <clokep_work> loc = !sh -c 'git ls-files -z --exclude-per-directory=.gitignore $0 | xargs -0 -n1 git blame --line-porcelain | sed -n \"s/^author //p\" | sort | uniq -c | sort -rn'
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22:15:17 <clokep> Hello.
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22:33:38 <clokep> Does anyone (maybe flo-retina?) have the logs of our chat in #bugzilla a few weeks ago? I'm trying to find a link glob sent me (an example JSONP request), I think it was a gist.
22:35:10 <flo-retina> {"date":"2013-03-05T15:56:00.000Z","who":"glob","text":"clokep_work, https://gist.github.com/globau/4995830 is my sample jsonp code","flags":["incoming"]}
22:35:22 <clokep> Thanks.
22:35:26 <clokep> Logbot didn't seem to have that. Useless.
22:35:27 <flo-retina> np
22:35:51 <flo-retina> grep works, why do we bother with indexed logs plans ;)
22:36:32 * clokep grumbles about it using jQuery...
22:36:40 <flo-retina> :-D
22:47:08 <flo-retina> clokep: is this known/expected: http://i4.minus.com/i6FlZrc4traxE.png
22:47:10 <flo-retina> ?
22:47:20 <clokep> flo-retina: No.
22:47:35 <clokep> What network is it?
22:47:38 <flo-retina> it's present 3 times in my error console
22:47:56 <flo-retina> I have 2 moznet accounts and 1 freenode account
22:48:13 <clokep> That's weird. :-S
22:48:19 <clokep> I have 1 moznet and 2 freenode and not seeing it.
22:48:28 <flo-retina> given the time stamps, it seems to be each time I came back online
22:48:40 <flo-retina> so it's probably only one of the 3 accounts causing the error
22:49:11 <clokep> I wonder if you're on a freenode server which says it supports SASL but doesn't actually.
22:49:17 <clokep> (That would be my guess, freenode kind of sucks.)
22:49:20 <flo-retina> wait, it's obvious that this is from freenode
22:49:29 <flo-retina> freenode and my freenode nick are mentioned in the warnings
22:50:39 <flo-retina> I can try disconnecting my freenode account, clearing the console, and getting a debug log
22:52:05 <flo-retina> "(155 messages omitted)" :(
22:52:32 <flo-retina> so it seems keeping 50 log messages is useless for IRC, as the MOTD is usually longer than that
22:53:34 <flo-retina> clokep: the complete output in the error console when connecting: http://i3.minus.com/ibu5FRcBG5mA0F.png
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22:54:08 <flo-retina> I'm using chat.freenode.net as the domain name
22:58:33 <clokep> flo-retina: I'll try connecting to hubbard.freenode.net directly and see if I can reproduce.
22:58:38 <clokep> (After dinner though...)
22:59:53 <clokep> SSL or no?
23:00:33 <flo-retina> 6667 no ssl
23:00:43 <flo-retina> (probably all the default options)
23:02:04 <clokep> Cool. Thanks.
23:03:03 <flo-retina> I'm stuck again on a JS error from OS.File :(
23:05:57 <clokep> :-/
23:09:39 <flo-retina> I suspect there are holes in the unit tests for OS.File :-S
23:09:55 <flo-retina> each time I try to use something, there's a new brokenness I need to workaround :-S
23:12:01 <clokep> :(
23:12:10 <clokep> Are broken unit tests better than none? Hmmm....
23:20:18 * flo-retina filed https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=855112
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23:55:04 <clokep> Mook_as: So I have this JS sandbox thing in Komodo that I run things in...is there anyway to get an XMLHttpRequest into that?
23:55:18 <Mook_as> are you talking about a macro, or?
23:55:25 <clokep> Mook_as: Yes.
23:55:37 <clokep> Mook_as: http://pastebin.instantbird.com/163835
23:56:12 <Mook_as> oh, that looks like the js shell stuff :D
23:56:16 <clokep> That gives me "Permission denied for <moz-safe-about:blank>
23:56:27 <clokep> Yes, I stole it from there because the js shell sucks.
23:56:42 <clokep> You helped me w/ this previously...and then todd pretty much told me it was a stupid thing to make and just to use jsshell. ;)
23:57:35 <clokep> It has been viewed a lot though... http://code.activestate.com/recipes/578120-komodo-js-macro-execute-javascript/
23:59:08 <Mook_as> (sorry, was distracted by fixing the debugger, yay)
23:59:13 <clokep> (And if I use Cc["@mozilla.org/xmlextras/xmlhttprequest;1"].createInstance(Ci.nsIXMLHttpRequest); instead of the constructor I get "Permission denied to access property 'open')
23:59:22 <clokep> No problem, I'm not in a rush...I'm sure you have more important things to do!
23:59:37 <clokep> (And we can move this to #komodo if it's more appropriate.)
23:59:37 <Mook_as> so.. do you care about permissions here?
23:59:47 <Mook_as> can't you just expose the raw XMLHttpRequest?
23:59:59 <flo-retina> Good night