#instantbird log on 02 22 2013

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01:03:28 <instant-buildbot> build #787 of linux-nightly-default is complete: Success [build successful]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/linux-nightly-default/builds/787
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02:18:46 <instant-buildbot> build #879 of win32-nightly-default is complete: Failure [failed hg_1]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/win32-nightly-default/builds/879
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03:38:40 <instant-buildbot> build #788 of linux-nightly-default is complete: Success [build successful]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/linux-nightly-default/builds/788
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05:57:41 <instant-buildbot> build #880 of win32-nightly-default is complete: Success [build successful]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/win32-nightly-default/builds/880
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07:28:09 <john1> does anyone know if there are any compatible adium message styles available? everyone that i have attempted to convert is not compatible with 1.3
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19:53:24 <flo-retina> aleth: it happens to me relatively frequently to type j b <tab> and to be surprised that ": " isn't added automatically
19:54:14 <flo-retina> also, if I have "aleth: jb" and press tab, I miss having the coma inserted in the right place between the two nicks.
19:54:20 <aleth> flo-retina: interesting edge case, maybe we shouldn't return early then
19:54:27 <aleth> file a bug? ;)
19:54:35 <flo-retina> aleth: does this look like the expected behavor or something that should be tweaked?
19:54:48 <flo-retina> and my attempt to not ping j b failed :(
19:55:16 <aleth> Sounds reasonable to tweak it. It's "expected" because there is nothing to complete
19:55:43 <aleth> But if we consider adding punctutation a feature we should fix that ;)
19:56:15 <flo-retina> ok, if it sounds like a bug to you I'll file it :)
19:56:27 <flo-retina> it's something I run into several times a week
19:56:34 <aleth> If it is annoying you it's a bug ;)
19:57:19 <aleth> I sometimes wonder whether it's a bug not to complete nicks that have left the room
19:58:07 <flo-retina> aleth: I sometimes tend to think it's a bug to not complete on words of the dictionary, or at least words I've used before
19:58:15 <flo-retina> or words that we just mentioned in a recent message
19:58:55 <aleth> I'm not sure I understand
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19:59:07 <flo-retina> like the open office completion
19:59:20 <flo-retina> that offers to complete words of more than 4 letters that you have already typed before
19:59:35 <flo-retina> or like the completion of text editors
19:59:40 <aleth> this would be mainly for long words?
20:00:16 <flo-retina> yeah, to type faster and with fewer typos
20:00:38 <aleth> text editors usually make use of the syntax of the language, to make such a feature useful
20:00:42 <instantbot> New Instantbird (UI) bug 1881 filed by florian@instantbird.org.
20:00:44 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1881 enh, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Nick completion should add punctuation after complete nicks
20:01:07 <flo-retina> btw, I sometimes use tab completion to check that the person I want to talk to is actually in the room, so completing on left nicks would defeat that (but maybe I'm abusing a bug here :))
20:01:08 <aleth> Might be worth playing around with though
20:01:26 <aleth> flo-retina: me too, that's why I am undecided about it
20:01:31 <flo-retina> visual studio does. Emacs doesn't (by default at least)
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20:05:02 <aleth> Wow, looks like WebRTC has been busy. Are you off to MWC?
20:05:15 <aleth> ^^ (the channel)
20:07:28 <flo-retina> I'm not going to mwc, but j b and Standard8 are
20:07:52 <flo-retina> and yes, it's the final rush
20:08:18 <aleth> good luck :)
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21:24:31 <clokep> flo-retina, aleth: I often try to auto-complete arbitrary words too (a la using a smartphone).
21:37:12 <instantbot> aleth@instantbird.org requested review from florian@instantbird .org for attachment 2241 on bug 1880.
21:37:14 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1880 nor, --, ---, aleth, ASSI, Clicking on "status dot" to go Online does not work
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21:54:28 <flo-retina> aleth: is it really a good solution to put an onclick handler on the spacer?
21:55:00 <flo-retina> would it work to put it on the parent element?
21:55:35 <flo-retina> oh well, I'm confused and shouldn't be commenting on a patch I haven't fully read
21:57:30 <aleth> flo-retina: If you put it on the parent, you then have to filter out all the irrelevant clicks...
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21:59:05 <flo-retina> aleth: yeah, discard that comment
21:59:14 <flo-retina> that patch is too complicated to review while tired
21:59:24 <flo-retina> too many edge cases are being addressed :)
21:59:57 <aleth> flo-retina: Yes, it's all edge cases that we didn't notice ;)
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22:21:19 <flo-retina> my instantbird nightly is currently using 470MB of ram
22:22:36 <aleth> mine is at 60M
22:22:40 <aleth> not bad...
22:22:50 <aleth> Oh, I forgot, I restarted earlier.
22:22:57 <flo-retina> I haven't restarted in 3 days
22:23:16 <flo-retina> I discarded the update prompt a few times because I was in active conversations at the time it appeared
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22:26:53 <clokep> flo-retina: How's the about:memory looking?
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22:28:24 <flo-retina> clokep: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2168185
22:28:30 <flo-retina> I don't see anything "interesting" in there :(
22:29:00 <clokep> :-/
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22:30:15 <clokep> Nothing that seems to be awful, yes.
22:30:58 <instantbot> aleth@instantbird.org requested review from florian@instantbird .org for attachment 2242 on bug 1881.
22:31:03 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1881 enh, --, ---, aleth, ASSI, Nick completion should add punctuation after complete nicks
22:31:25 <flo-retina> I would be curious to know what's actually taking 9MB in imConversations.js and what's taking 4.33MB in jsProtoHelper
22:31:31 <flo-retina> but that doesn't seem really excessive
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22:32:46 <aleth> It would be interesting to be able to diff such pastebins
22:33:39 <aleth> or better, to see a graph of how the entries changed over time
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22:36:32 <aleth> sparklines ;)
22:37:44 <aleth> flo-retina: Do you have an estimate for the impact of that memshrink bug you filed?
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22:46:08 <flo-retina> aleth: which bug?
22:46:46 <flo-retina> if it's the one about DOMParser, it only affects heap-unclassified, which isn't excessively big in my current about:memory
22:47:40 <aleth> Ah, I just found it, and it was that one. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=790695
23:02:20 <flo-retina> aleth: is this patch adding the punctuation only if the nick is the only possile completion?
23:03:52 <aleth> Yes
23:04:05 <flo-retina> aleth: if there's Standard8 and Standard8|mobile in the channel, and I type Standard8<tab> what's the expected behavior?
23:04:17 <flo-retina> (you can try this in #maildev)
23:05:43 <flo-retina> Good night
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23:06:02 <aleth> Now you mention it, I'm not sure.
23:07:38 <aleth> I just thought something was _really_ broken, but it was only that Standard8 had left the room ;)
23:10:30 <aleth> Hmm
23:11:21 <aleth> You're right, that needs changing (it feels wrong), but I'm not sure what to yet.
23:11:26 <aleth> Tomorrow...
23:12:12 <instantbot> aleth@instantbird.org denied review for attachment 2242 on bug 1881.
23:12:15 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1881 enh, --, ---, aleth, ASSI, Nick completion should add punctuation after complete nicks
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23:41:47 <instantbot> aleth@instantbird.org requested review from florian@instantbird .org for attachment 2243 on bug 1881.
23:41:50 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1881 enh, --, ---, aleth, ASSI, Nick completion should add punctuation after complete nicks
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