#instantbird log on 01 25 2013

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00:45:44 <instant-buildbot> build #375 of linux-onCommit is complete: Success [build successful]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/linux-onCommit/builds/375
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02:57:31 <instant-buildbot> build #361 of win32-onCommit is complete: Success [build successful]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/win32-onCommit/builds/361
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03:35:09 <instant-buildbot> build #757 of linux-nightly-default is complete: Success [build successful]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/linux-nightly-default/builds/757
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08:52:08 <flo-retina> clokep: the windows nightly is "failed" on buildbot's waterfall, but it failed at the very last command of the distribute step, so I ran it again myself, you should have you InfoServ-less update :)
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09:57:48 <aleth> Mic: yes, it only had the "error" flag
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10:26:06 <Mic> Hello
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10:27:10 <WOOHOO> http://www.iBooter.us - Most Cheapest & Strongest Stresser! [Auto-Buy]
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10:33:44 <aleth> When do messages with the "notification" tag occur?
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11:04:14 <Mic> aleth: I'd start from here: http://lxr.instantbird.org/instantbird/source/chat/components/public/prplIMessage.idl#67
11:04:45 <Mic> http://lxr.instantbird.org/instantbird/search?string=PURPLE_MESSAGE_NOTIFY might give you some example code how protocol plugins use it..
11:04:52 <Mic> *examples
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11:20:23 <clokep> aleth: I don't think notification is ever used.
11:25:55 <Mic> clokep: You asked me to ping you yesterday, so ... ping!
11:26:29 <clokep> Mic: Uhh...so I looked at your diff code stuff.
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11:27:13 <clokep> And I'm also unsure why we aren't making that into HTML, but it'd be great to make the conversation itself print out topic updates.
11:27:21 <clokep> Then you could use that code for all protocols.
11:31:26 <clokep> Mic: Also I like the new styling for the Window sunread marker.
11:31:30 <clokep> Please file a bugg with that. :)
11:34:53 <Mic> I'm not sure I understand what you mean by "I'm also unsure why we aren't making that into HTML" and  "it'd be great to make the conversation itself print out topic updates."
11:35:20 <Mic> I need to go in 5 minutes anyways, so don't hurry.
11:38:19 <clokep> Mic: The HTML itself is printing so we must be escaping things at some point.
11:38:35 <clokep> But I feel like the code you have is not dramatically different than how I add HTML for CTCP formatting.
11:39:31 <clokep> The second part would be bug 1230, but for topic messages.
11:39:34 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1230 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Join/part messages should be handled by imConversations.js.
11:42:18 <Mic> ok, thanks for explaining
11:42:18 <Mic> bye!
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12:56:56 * clokep_work isn't sure if I should approve http://pastebin.instantbird.com/131550 or not. :-/
13:06:05 <flo-retina> they want to bundle ads?
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13:08:43 <clokep_work> Probably.
13:10:05 <clokep_work> I'm unsure whether I should accept it and reply or just reject it.
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15:40:15 <flo-retina> clokep_work: I would accept but not reply :-D.
15:40:30 <flo-retina> but you can do whatever you feel is appropriate
15:46:08 <clokep_work> flo-retina: Thanks.
15:46:37 <flo-retina> no problem
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20:50:52 <Mic> Should something "Successfully authenticated with nickserv." shown as account status while/after connecting?
20:51:46 <Mic> I sometimes wonder if it worked (rather: I'm expecting to get a complaint from nickserv any minute in such a case;)
20:52:18 <Mic> *something like
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21:28:55 <flo-retina> Mic: the time the account has been connected for is more useful to me
21:29:11 <flo-retina> (it lets me know if the connection has been stable or not)
21:29:48 <flo-retina> or sometimes, unbelievably stable (if the account has been connected for longer than I've been online)
21:33:31 <Mic> Could it briefly be shown like a "connection step"? It's happening when the account is already connected, I know ..
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21:56:12 <clokep> Mic: We might be able to do that, but it would probably go past so fast...
21:56:21 <clokep> It might be logged, however. ;)
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22:10:12 <flo-retina> clokep: do we handle auto-joins before or after authentication with nickserv?
22:10:27 <clokep> flo-retina: I don't know.
22:15:14 <flo-retina> I was just wondering if we should post pone a bit the "account-connected" notification for IRC accounts
22:17:30 <clokep> Maybe...
22:17:36 <clokep> I don' tknow when we would od it then though.
22:19:19 <flo-retina> I don't know either, it was just a random thought
22:19:57 <aleth> Is the real concern here maybe that we don't fail noisily enough when auth fails?
22:22:18 <flo-retina> I think the concern is rather that there's no way to know if it's ok yet or if it may still fail
22:22:43 <flo-retina> I think some commands require being identified, so if someone wants to use them, it's useful to know if it's possible yet
22:26:58 <Mic> flo-retina: exactly
22:28:17 <flo-retina> if the user has supplied a password, would it make sense to make the connection attempt fail if we can't identify, and to not mark the account as connected until we are identified?
22:33:03 <clokep> I wouldn't be against tat
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