#instantbird log on 01 22 2013

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03:36:08 <instant-buildbot> build #754 of linux-nightly-default is complete: Success [build successful]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/linux-nightly-default/builds/754
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08:38:29 <flo-retina> pfff, power outage :(
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09:03:04 <flo-retina> ah, power is back :)
09:03:39 <flo-retina> (it's nice to have a 3G phone that can be used as an emergency modem when the regular modem is down because of a power outage :))
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09:17:51 <flo-retina> bug 1140 sucks :(
09:17:54 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1140 maj, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, Ctrl+F search in a conversation window with a long backlog hangs Instantbird
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10:41:48 <Mic> Hello!
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11:02:55 <NicoHood> Hey
11:03:04 <NicoHood> here is my bug report
11:03:04 <NicoHood> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=833075
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11:06:19 <Mic> I know ;)
11:06:27 <NicoHood> k
11:06:49 <Mic> I read logs and watch the IM component on BMO ;)
11:07:17 <Mic> Thanks, filing bugs is as important as fixing them :)
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11:26:35 <clokep> flo-retina: That bug does suck...and besides reducing the backlog, I can't really think of a way to do anything.
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11:37:39 <clokep> Mic: Yes, I couldn't find a bug for that, btw, when I actually looked. Glad it was filed.
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15:05:51 * aleth is confused by https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=740858
15:06:25 <aleth> Is this about the display of the individual logs in the log tree, or about only showing one entry per day and then when opening the log concatenating all the session available?
15:07:42 <aleth> I thought mconley had done the former already..
15:08:08 <clokep_work> aleth: Seems that Mic agrees with you.
15:08:12 * mconley nods
15:08:16 <clokep_work> You'd probably have to ask jb though. ;)
15:10:03 <aleth> clokep_work: Oh, I see, so it's probably just that the bug wasn't resolved as a dupe at the time.
15:11:00 <aleth> I still have to port those changes to IB...
15:16:10 <clokep_work> aleth: Probably, yes. :)
15:16:17 <clokep_work> aleth: Seems like you have some free time now. ;)
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17:50:26 <clokep_work> flo-retina: Who makes UI decisions for Thunderbird, is that bwinton still?
17:50:37 <flo-retina> yes
17:50:51 <flo-retina> he needs to be cc'd to that bug, with a comment explaining what the decision is
17:51:25 <flo-retina> (we are confident adding lots of unpopular prpls in Ib because of the top protocols first step of the wizard that wnayes added. Tb doesn't have that (yet?)
17:51:26 <flo-retina> )
17:51:36 <clokep_work> Right.
17:51:50 <clokep_work> Are we asking him for a decision or are we making a decision and telling him.
17:52:41 <flo-retina> I'm not sure what I would want to decide if I was in charge of Tb's UI. I (as Instantbird developer) don't care what Tb does with this.
17:52:50 <flo-retina> so I think we are asking him to make a decision
17:53:20 <flo-retina> except if you know what you want the decision to be, in which case just attach a patch and request ui-r
17:54:11 <clokep_work> I don't know.
17:54:17 <clokep_work> ( / don't care)
18:03:47 <flo-retina> we agree then :-D
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20:38:49 * clokep_work wonders if https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=813833 would be helpful to us at all...
20:38:53 <clokep_work> Once we're on 20. :)
20:46:28 <aleth> clokep_work: what's a "promise" here?
20:50:57 <Mic> I'm not sure if I got it right but let me try:
20:52:54 <Mic> When you make something a promise, it will be run asynchronously but the result will definitely be available when it is needed (i.e. execution halts until a promise is resolved when code is hit that requires the result of the promise)
20:53:16 <flo-retina> clokep_work: were you on the call, or just following the etherpad?
20:55:27 <aleth> Mic: thanks! Sounds a bit like in node.js?
20:55:29 <clokep_work> flo-retina: Just following.
20:55:48 <aleth> (not that I have used that)
20:56:05 <Mic> aleth: I don't know nothing about node.js, sorry :(
20:57:16 <NicoHood> I dont know if this is a bug:
20:57:59 <aleth> Mic: I might be misremembering anyway. Anyhow, I found this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Promise_%28programming%29
20:58:19 <NicoHood> my chat is in another tab. i switch the tab to email. somebody writes a message in the chat. i sitch the tab back. klick in the chat but it says new message till i write something
21:02:00 <aleth> Mic: So is something like this http://wiki.commonjs.org/wiki/Promises/A part of mozilla's plans for JS?
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21:04:05 <aleth> Or are promises just implemented case by case?
21:06:08 <aleth> Huh, it looks like a promise library is part of the addon sdk
21:06:33 <Mic> Afaik there's something like a promises module somewhere.
21:06:51 <Mic> Beside that "I don't know" to both of your questions.
21:08:42 <aleth> Sounds useful, anyway :)
21:09:22 <Mic> Yes, absolutely. It seems to take the pain out of async stuff.
21:15:59 <EionRobb> promises are part of the newer ecmascript stuff, aren't they?
21:24:31 <Mic> bye
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21:55:05 <clokep_work> flo-retina: Did someone have a question for me? I was very in and out of my office..>I didn't have a chance to dial in. :(
21:57:04 <EionRobb> I have a question for you clokep_work
21:57:06 <EionRobb> um......
21:57:09 <EionRobb> what are you wearing?
21:58:08 <clokep_work> EionRobb: Promises will be part of Ecma script harmony, I think.
22:10:04 <flo-retina> clokep_work: I don't think so (if you are still talking about the tb call). I just got distracted just after talking (I was fixing what has been put in the pad after what I said) and then heard a voice I didn't recognize and saw your nick in the pad (with a typo so it was obvious you didn't add it yourself)
22:10:13 <flo-retina> I was wondering if it was actually you talking
22:10:24 <flo-retina> and then I saw what you wrote in #maildev
22:10:29 <clokep_work> Got it. :)
22:11:17 <clokep_work> Oooo https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=790695 is now MemShrink:P2. ;)
22:12:06 <flo-retina> is anything > P1 in the "not going to fix it ourselves" category?
22:12:18 * clokep_work doesn't know WTH they use those for.
22:16:39 <flo-retina> clokep_work: bwinton is asking almost directly for someone to port the top protocol wizard pane
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22:18:55 <clokep_work> flo-retina: Yeah, that would probably be the easiest way to do it...are the wizards shared between IB & TB?
22:19:13 <flo-retina> they are almost the same
22:19:14 <clokep_work> (I know the files themselves aren't, but is it a C&P or are there real differences?)
22:19:31 <flo-retina> the final account creation differs a bit because we need to create a mailnews account at the same time as the imAccount
22:20:13 <flo-retina> so there are probably 5 to 20 lines that are different for a good reason. Other differences are just because it's an outdated fork.
22:20:36 * clokep_work wonders if they could be merged somehow...
22:21:45 <flo-retina> I"m not sure I would want that
22:22:10 <flo-retina> because 1. it's UI code 2. It would force us to implement IM account import in Tb at the same time as we land it in Instantbird
22:22:40 <clokep_work> Ah, true. :)
22:22:59 <clokep_work> It could be worth running a diff on them though.
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23:17:59 <Mic> What a relief: http://pastebin.instantbird.com/130434 :D
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