#instantbird log on 01 21 2013

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03:28:48 <clokep> jazz: The logs rae saved pretty clearly in your profile directory.
03:28:57 <clokep> There is not a way to turn off logging IIRC, but there's a bug for it.
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03:35:37 <instant-buildbot> build #753 of linux-nightly-default is complete: Success [build successful]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/linux-nightly-default/builds/753
03:36:38 <jazz> thanks, clokep. i suppose that Ccleaner can be configured to clear them out if need be.
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04:27:17 <instant-buildbot> build #751 of macosx-nightly-default is complete: Success [build successful]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/macosx-nightly-default/builds/751
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13:25:21 <clokep> Good morning.
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16:50:16 <Mic> Hi!
16:53:54 <flo-retina> hello :)
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17:25:55 <instantbot> benediktp@ymail.com granted review for attachment 2196 on bug 1864.
17:25:56 <Mic> oops
17:25:57 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1864 tri, --, ---, clokep, ASSI, Update copyright year for 2013
17:26:35 <instantbot> benediktp@ymail.com requested review from florian@instantbird .org for attachment 2196 on bug 1864.
17:33:41 <instantbot> florian@instantbird.org granted review for attachment 2196 on bug 1864.
17:33:43 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1864 tri, --, ---, clokep, ASSI, Update copyright year for 2013
17:35:28 <Mic> Thanks, and sorry for the bugspam!
17:36:10 <flo-retina> np
17:36:17 <Mic> I've got to admit that it would have been strange if one could r+ in someone else's place ;)
17:36:23 <Mic> *name
17:36:35 <flo-retina> you could just have kept it +'ed from you
17:36:54 <flo-retina> that was enough to get the patch out of the review queue
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17:56:17 <nicohood> hello?
17:56:22 <nicohood> anyone out there?
17:56:51 <Mic> Yes, but I gtg. Ask and wait for an answer, please :)
17:56:59 <Mic> Someone will answer eventually :)
17:57:02 <Mic> bye!
17:57:04 <nicohood> ok bye
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17:57:27 <clokep> What's up nicohood.
17:57:38 <clokep> Thanks for the review btw flo/Mic.
17:58:05 <nicohood> I would like to know if it is possible to make a costume sound for thunderbird chats. there is no differenz between email and chat sound
17:59:32 <clokep> Hmm...I'm not sure if it's possible or not.
18:00:04 <clokep> I don't think it is, but I'm not positive. Florian would know, but he seems to be offline. :(
18:00:53 <nicohood> can please please ask him to do that. would be really cool.
18:02:09 <clokep> I'm almost positive there's a bug open on it.
18:02:27 <nicohood> are you guys german?
18:02:41 <clokep> I'm not sure why that matters.
18:02:51 <nicohood> because IAM :D
18:02:57 <clokep> Florian is French, I'm American. I think Mic is German, but I'm not positive.
18:03:05 <nicohood> :D
18:03:06 <nicohood> ok
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18:13:58 <nicohood> how do i connect an irc chat like this? is this possible? http://webchat.quakenet.org/?nick=&channels=rawiioli&prompt=1#
18:15:28 <clokep> nicohood: I'm not sure what you're asking.
18:15:35 <clokep> Just connect to quakenet with IRC. It should work fine.
18:15:42 <clokep> You just need the server name.
18:18:39 <nicohood> I dont know what to type in in my thunderbird
18:18:49 <clokep> Where did you get that link?
18:19:37 <nicohood> from the website where i want to join the chat. you can chat in browser but i try to link this with my thunderbird
18:19:56 <nicohood> just hit hte link..
18:20:22 <clokep> I understand what the link is, but you didn't answer my question.
18:20:35 <clokep> The page doesn't have the connection information on it, and I don't know quakenet's offhand.
18:20:36 <rosonline> A question ... Instantbird has a release for each language?
18:21:16 <Mook_as> nicohood: http://www.quakenet.org/servers would probably help, I think - that has the server information
18:21:25 <nicohood> oh. ok. thanks
18:21:30 <Mook_as> and I'm guessing the channel is named #rawiioli
18:22:11 <clokep> nicohood: You can connect to irc.quakenet.org, port 6667
18:22:25 <clokep> Which I just found on quakenet.org, I'm sure the page you found the link to the webchat on says that as well.
18:22:35 <clokep> rosonline: For the languages we support, yes.
18:24:53 <rosonline> clokep: I thought maybe I could do a single release with all languages​​, and have the user choose which language you want to use.
18:25:10 <clokep> rosonline: That might be possible, our build system doesn't support that AFAIK.
18:25:24 <clokep> It would be a pretty big download though, I think.
18:26:50 <rosonline> maybe... but it's would be easy for us, one build with all languages
18:26:59 <clokep> Who's "us"?
18:27:55 <nicohood> clokep: irc.quakenet.org didnt work but the other link with my nearest server did! thanks man!
18:27:57 * clokep isn't sure what you're trying to optimize.
18:30:24 <nicohood> http://webchat.quakenet.org/?nick=&channels=rawiioli&prompt=1#
18:30:27 <nicohood> this works
18:30:33 <rosonline> clokep:  - us - quem programa Instantbird. Outra questão. O Thunderbird tem um botão de menu. Poderia ser inserido no Instantbird
18:30:45 <rosonline>  - us - quem programa Instantbird. Outra questão. O Thunderbird tem um botão de menu. Poderia ser inserido no Instantbird
18:30:55 <rosonline> _- Us - who Instantbird program. Another question. The Thunderbird has a menu button. Could be inserted in Instantbird
18:31:42 <rosonline> Sorry for that. Usually I use a translator
18:31:47 <clokep> rosonline: I'm not sure what you mean by that still...
18:31:48 <nicohood> :D
18:32:03 <clokep> And yes, the menu button could be in Instantbird, but someone would need to do it. THere's an open bug for it.
18:32:20 <Mook_as> I think that means somebody wants to pick up https://github.com/mook/bucktooth/ :p
18:32:35 <nicohood> is it normal that irc chat is laggy? I recienve messages a few seconds after my in browser version
18:33:12 <clokep> nicohood: It depends how much lag is on your connection. It isn't uncommon for there to be a few hundred milliseconds.
18:33:53 <nicohood> hmm
18:33:53 <nicohood> k
18:34:55 <nicohood> for the chat sound: it would be cool to set a defaul chat sound (but different to mail sound) and if you want you can set a special sound for each chat account
18:36:30 <clokep> That sounds like a complicated UI...but it could be useful, I suppose.
18:37:19 <nicohood> It would be very usefull
18:37:50 <Mook_as> have it be a hidden pref, and an extension can write that UI :p
18:38:00 <clokep> No. It would be fully in an extension.
18:38:25 <clokep> The point of most of our code is to unify accounts, not to have difference between them.
18:38:38 <Mook_as> ah, if there's enough hooks to do so, yeah
18:38:45 <clokep> Yeah, of course if we need to add hooks.
18:38:46 <rosonline> clokep: Another idea. I was thinking, could be created activity feed to Facebook, and on Twitter, where the user would follow the updates of your friends.
18:39:03 <nicohood> i do not really understand what my local user name is for? it always displays my icq id instead of my name
18:39:46 <clokep> rosonline: Instantbird already supports Twitter.
18:41:30 <rosonline> clokep: That's not what I meant. Perhaps it could be a Facebook feed, like twitter account.
18:42:33 <clokep> rosonline: Sure, I could see that.
18:42:44 <rosonline> Look at this
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18:45:15 <NicoHood1> test
18:45:23 <nicohood> :d
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18:46:01 <NicoHood1> woot?
18:46:06 <NicoHood1> did you kick me?
18:49:02 <clokep> If you get kicked it would say you were kicked.
18:49:12 <NicoHood1> lol
18:49:22 <NicoHood1> reloag...
18:49:24 <NicoHood1> *log
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18:49:52 <NicoHood> re
18:53:57 <rosonline> http://tinypic.com/r/6ihdec/6
18:54:31 <clokep> rosonline: What about it? It looks like Facebook. :P
18:55:06 <rosonline> yES
18:57:09 <rosonline> clokep: This is the Facebook feed. Could create a timeline with updates from Facebook.]
18:57:30 <NicoHood> can you please repost anything
18:58:34 <Mook_as> NicoHood: http://log.bezut.info/instantbird/today#m205 might be useful :)
18:58:44 <rosonline> the same way like Twitter
18:59:49 <clokep> rosonline: Yes. I thought I agreed with you earlier, that you could do that. :-S
18:59:54 <NicoHood> why?
19:00:00 <NicoHood> this log?
19:00:18 <NicoHood> i found out that on irc channels there is no sound and on icq there is the email sound
19:00:20 <rosonline> Is there a how-to
19:00:53 <clokep> rosonline: Are you asking about how to add this? Someone needs to write code to do it.
19:00:55 <rosonline> (I can't found the question mark in my keyboard
19:01:04 <rosonline> ok
19:01:33 <rosonline> For beginners, is there some help to do it
19:02:25 <clokep> rosonline: http://wiki.instantbird.org/ has a variety of resources.
19:02:53 <clokep> You'd first have to get some sort of development environment set up, then add some new code to our Facebook code.
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19:06:08 <rosonline> afff I don't know nothing about coding
19:06:29 <rosonline> I'll filing an idea to improve Instantbird
19:18:38 <clokep> Everyone didn't know at some point. :)
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20:21:15 <NicoHood> arg
20:21:32 <NicoHood> its really confusing with same email + chat sound 
20:21:37 <NicoHood> fix it pls :D
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20:36:11 <Mic|web> I couldn't find a bug for the notification sound problem by the way (http://log.bezut.info/instantbird/130121/#m144)
20:36:46 <NicoHood> du bist doch deutscher?
20:36:53 <Mic|web> NicoHood: could you please file a bug at bugzilla.mozilla.org with the problem you have (i.e. wanting different sounds for new mails and new instant messages)
20:37:13 <Mic|web> NicoHood: yes, but this channel is english-only anyways..
20:37:27 <EionRobb> but I'm not from england :(
20:37:29 <NicoHood> is mir egal :D okay jetzt hab ichs aber gecheckt
20:39:43 <Mic|web> mconley: this is a dupe of the one history list bug that you fixed, isn't it? https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=740858
20:40:17 <mconley> Mic|web: yes, I believe so.
20:40:39 <NicoHood> should i post the bug for instandbird ui?
20:40:48 <NicoHood> *instantbird :D
20:41:23 <Mic|web> We don't support emails, so we don't have this bug :)
20:43:13 <Mic|web> Go to "bugzilla.*mozilla*.org" instead and file the bug in product "Thunderbird" + component "Instant Messaging", please.
20:44:49 <NicoHood> achso
20:46:56 <NicoHood> i can only choose thunderbird. no instant messaging
20:47:49 <NicoHood> okay
20:47:51 <NicoHood> habs
20:48:03 <Mic|web> OK, thanks.
20:48:04 <Mic|web> gtg
20:48:07 <Mic|web>  have a nice evening
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20:55:38 <NicoHood> i somebody cares:
20:55:41 <NicoHood> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=833075
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