#instantbird log on 11 14 2012

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00:12:04 <rosonline> I found some errors in my translation. What do you do?
00:12:07 <russ> quick question, I can't seem to get the install running on Ubuntu 12.10
00:12:31 <flo> russ: there's no question in that sentence ;).
00:12:36 <rosonline> russ: I do
00:12:55 <flo> rosonline: so first, you fix it in your locale repository.
00:13:02 <russ> flo ;) Good point, ok, what's the secret on 12.10 to get it running?
00:13:14 <flo> rosonline: if there's a reason why we would really want to build again, we will pick the latest version of each locale.
00:13:38 <flo> rosonline: but errors in one translation would have to be really absolutely awful to make us rebuild.
00:14:16 <rosonline> russ: I'm using the Instantbird on Ubuntu 12.10. You should descompact this file (root user) at /opt/ folder
00:14:38 <flo> russ: the secret of getting a useful answer to such a question is to explain what you tried, and pastebin the error messages you code ;).
00:16:15 <flo> *the error message you got
00:16:30 <rosonline> flo: Ok. I see only caps errors
00:16:54 <russ> flo, I've tried running ./instantbird after tar -xf ing the file.  I then get an error that says that the file ./instantbird-bin could not be found.  instantbird and instantbird-bin both have the correct permissions and are marked as executable
00:17:30 <flo> russ: if you are on a 64 bit ubuntu, install the ia32-libs package
00:17:58 <flo> (or download a 64 bit version of Instantbird)
00:19:10 <russ> I am on 64-bit.  I'll install that as soon as update manager finishes. Where would one acquire a 64-bit version of instantbird? It's not shown on the website.
00:20:10 <flo> if you want instantbird 1.2, it's at http://ftp.instantbird.com/instantbird/releases/1.2/contrib/
00:20:18 <flo> nightlies aren't available as 64 bit
00:20:59 <russ> thanks flo
00:21:29 <flo> russ: and that's an unsupported 64 bit build (no automated update to the next version (which will be released this week), no crash reporting, ...)
00:22:03 <russ> thanks.
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00:46:06 <rosonline> flo: Where's the release page for the webpage for the translation? 
00:46:22 <flo> you mean the release notes that you can start translating?
00:46:46 <flo> if so, it's http://www-staging2.instantbird.com/release-notes.html
00:46:58 <flo> (username and password are what you use to push changes to the locale repository)
00:47:42 <rosonline> ok
00:49:52 <instantbot> florian@instantbird.org granted review for attachment 2066 on bug 1638.
00:49:54 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1638 maj, --, ---, clokep, ASSI, update Instantbird F.A.Q.
00:50:22 <instantbot> florian@instantbird.org set the Resolution field on bug 1638 to FIXED.
00:51:02 <instantbot> florian@instantbird.org granted review for attachment 2065 on bug 1592.
00:51:04 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1592 nor, --, ---, clokep, ASSI, Update the glib version requirements on the website
00:51:22 <instantbot> florian@instantbird.org set the Resolution field on bug 1592 to FIXED.
00:52:44 <rosonline> flo: How I download and edit the archive, the same way fo the translate files?
00:53:05 <flo> just update your copy of the en-US repository
01:03:46 <rosonline> flo: How do I do? 
01:04:06 <flo> at 2am (my time) you want to ask really specific questions
01:04:18 <flo> not questions that will force me to guess what you could be talking about
01:06:15 <rosonline> Ok. I'll discover it myself
01:06:39 <rosonline> flo: Have a good night and see you later
01:06:47 <flo> thanks :)
01:06:53 <flo> talk to you later :)
01:07:20 * flo has finished the email he was writing to all translators, and will now go to bed
01:08:10 <flo> (the upload should be finished in ~20 minutes)
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09:26:10 <Mic> The Windows RC looks good so far :)
09:33:00 <Mic> meh: http://lxr.instantbird.org/instantbird/source/instantbird/content/accountWizard.xul#26
09:33:35 <Mic> That means I have to look in accounts.properties if I want to see the account wizards strings because accountwizard.properties is for the top protocols? :(
09:39:51 <instantbot> New Instantbird (UI) bug 1796 filed by benediktp@ymail.com.
09:39:53 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1796 enh, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Move strings for account wizard into one file (or rename files accordingly)
10:01:13 <Mic> aleth: I've got emails that you updated two add-ons but they're not in the list of pending updates - did you remove them again?
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13:11:21 <deOmega> good morning.    Are considerations still being given to having windows open in the same location and size they were in from the previous session?
13:14:31 <flo-retina> deOmega: hello :)
13:14:59 <flo-retina> deOmega: I'm not aware of anybody actively working on this right now, but that doesn't mean it won't get done eventually. There's still some interest in a session restore feature.
13:16:13 <deOmega> OK, thank you.   Let me see if i can do a drawing of why it is a pain... or maybe that i snot necessary?
13:18:21 <deOmega> It is the only  program I use that does not remember the position of all its pieces and seeing that i use multiple windows in different places and sizes that are always visible..it would help to not have to reposition and re-size them all (except the last one that was interacted with) in their little spots
13:19:13 <deOmega> .. at the start of every session
13:19:50 <deOmega> ( I guess that explanation is  probably good enough without a drawing :)   )
13:20:26 <flo-retina> deOmega: I think we understand why it's a pain
13:20:57 <deOmega> flo-retina: ok, great.  Thanks a lot.  Really appreciate that feedback.
13:21:05 <flo-retina> deOmega: the "problem" is that I think it's not a pain for us (where "us" means "active Instantbird developers") because we tend to use only one conversation window.
13:22:02 <flo-retina> (a problem that itches a developer everyday is very likely to cause that developer to submit a patch to fix it sooner rather than later ;))
13:22:03 <deOmega> I truly understand that.  Can be easily forgotten that way.
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13:49:42 <aleth> Mic: I tried to upload two add-ons, but 1.4a1pre is not recognized on AIO yet
13:50:56 <aleth> deOmega: it's also not as easy to fix as it might appear
13:51:43 <aleth> Good to see all the RC builds are ready. Thanks flo for all the work! :)
13:52:31 <deOmega> aleth: Ok, I appreciate the feedback
13:54:55 <aleth> deOmega: For example, different accounts take a different amount of time to connect, so if you just reopen everything that was there last time it won't be established in the same order
13:56:03 <deOmega> It hapens for instance usiing MIRC
13:56:23 <deOmega> I have multiple windows open on different servers.. some stay longer to connect than others
13:56:37 <deOmega> but when they do.. each respective window go to their previous location
13:56:56 <deOmega> there is a feature called.. save position... or save position for all
13:57:03 <aleth> Sure, it's possible... but it's not something one can fix in a few minutes.
13:57:32 <deOmega> ok...  right, i would not expect that :(
13:58:52 <aleth> We've been concentrating on getting the actual protocols working well when they are open first I think ;)
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14:15:07 <deOmega> I can say already that the twitter fix is fantastic.
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15:49:55 <Mic|web> Hi
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18:53:17 <aleth> Looks like someone updated DOM Inspector :)
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19:28:34 <flo-retina> I may not have much time for Instantbird tomorrow.
19:28:44 <flo-retina> I'll try to create the 1.3 source tarball tonight
19:29:37 <flo-retina> and I'll do the " Move the final builds " part of https://wiki.instantbird.org/Instantbird:release_process tomorrow evening (probably after 10pm French time)
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20:59:31 <instantbot> New Core - General bug 1797 filed by unghost@gmail.com.
20:59:33 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1797 enh, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, Sign Instantbird win32/mac release builds
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