#instantbird log on 10 18 2012

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00:00:06 <flo> no, it's a nice fallback
00:00:17 <flo> I don't care about performance for things like jsTest :)
00:00:47 <instantbot> florian@instantbird.org granted review for attachment 1979 on bug 1702.
00:00:50 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1702 enh, --, ---, unghost, ASSI, Add VKontakte protocol
00:01:08 <clokep> OK!
00:12:17 <flo> Good night!
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00:51:11 <DGMurdockIII> VK performed DDOS attacks on certain sites, making user's browser send multiple requests to the target site without user's consent. Targets were Runet Prize voting page in 2008
00:51:27 <DGMurdockIII> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VK_%28social_network%29#DDOS_attacks_on_other_sites
00:52:36 <EionRobb> so they have a fair bit of sway
00:52:41 <EionRobb> you better do what they say ;)
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01:19:54 <clokep> EionRobb: Is there like an "entity" behind Pidgin? IM Freedom or just Pidgin?
01:20:17 <clokep> (E.g. like the Mozilla Foundation for Thunderbird/Firefox.)
01:20:21 <instant-buildbot> build #745 of win32-nightly-default is complete: Failure [failed shell_3]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/win32-nightly-default/builds/745
01:26:42 <EionRobb> yeah, IM Freedom sortof is
01:26:59 <clokep> Hm....OK.
01:27:12 <clokep> Does that cover anything /besides/  Pidgin? :P
01:27:19 <clokep> (Well Pidgin/Finch/libpurple/whatever.)
01:27:26 <EionRobb> kinda
01:27:38 <EionRobb> I mean it's related, and all the finances go through it iirc as it's a registered charity
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01:28:05 <clokep> Oh? Perfect! :)
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02:10:44 <instant-buildbot> build #746 of win32-nightly-default is complete: Failure [failed shell]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/win32-nightly-default/builds/746
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02:44:34 * clokep has updated the patches for Moz 16 and is building....
02:44:36 <clokep> Not really close to done yet.
02:44:44 <clokep> But I'll upload the patches in the morning.
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06:25:19 <instant-buildbot> build #653 of macosx-nightly-default is complete: Success [build successful]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/macosx-nightly-default/builds/653
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07:10:05 <Mic> Hello
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07:36:34 <FeuerFliege_VM> Mic:hi
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07:51:44 <instantbot> bugi@media.fjmail.de requested review from clokep@gmail.com for attachment 1980 on bug 1475.
07:51:46 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1475 enh, --, ---, bugi, ASSI, "Connect this account now."-label for checkbox misleading
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09:49:02 <aleth> Thanks for looking at moz16 clokep! :)
09:51:03 <instantbot> aletheia2@fastmail.fm granted review for attachment 1981 on bug 1697.
09:51:06 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1697 nor, --, ---, aletheia2, ASSI, Update /mode command syntax
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10:08:28 <instantbot> aletheia2@fastmail.fm requested review from clokep@gmail.com for attachment 1982 on bug 1697.
10:08:31 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1697 tri, --, ---, aletheia2, ASSI, Update /mode command syntax
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10:23:23 * clokep 's build failed. :(
10:24:12 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com granted review for attachment 1980 on bug 1475.
10:24:14 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1475 enh, --, ---, bugi, ASSI, "Connect this account now."-label for checkbox misleading
10:29:57 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com denied review for attachment 1982 on bug 1697.
10:29:59 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1697 tri, --, ---, aletheia2, ASSI, Update /mode command syntax
10:30:16 <clokep> aleth: I was just adding mid-air there. :P
10:35:59 <clokep> s/mid-air/checkin-needed/
10:40:56 <florian> clokep: "12:23:24 * clokep 's build failed. :(" how so?
10:41:24 <clokep> florian: c:/Users/Patrick/instantbird/mozilla/toolkit/components/typeaheadfind/nsTypeAheadFind.cpp(921) : error C2664: 'nsISelection::ToString' : cannot convert parameter 1 from 'nsGetterCopies' to 'nsAString_internal &'
10:41:34 <clokep> Did nsCOMPtr change in some way?
10:41:59 <florian> nsISelection probably changed, and bitorred the findbar-reversed patch
10:42:02 <clokep> Ah it looks like ToString now returns a DOMString.
10:56:17 <instantbot> aletheia2@fastmail.fm requested review from clokep@gmail.com for attachment 1983 on bug 1697.
10:56:19 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1697 tri, --, ---, aletheia2, ASSI, Update /mode command syntax
10:56:27 <aleth> The joy of string changes...
10:58:26 <clokep> :)
10:58:32 <clokep> Trivial bug indeed.
11:00:05 <clokep> aleth: Does the + fit after the \n?
11:00:31 <clokep> florian: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=631333&action=diff is what bitrotted that pathc.
11:00:54 <aleth> clokep: It does... I was also wondering whether it needed {..} seeing as it spanned two lines now
11:01:38 <clokep> Please put the + on the above line, I'm Ok w/o the {} (I think we have getters in other places w/o them.
11:01:48 <clokep> If it fits and you prefer putting it all on one line below the getter that's OK too.
11:01:52 <clokep> (Tabbed appropritately.)
11:04:26 <instantbot> aletheia2@fastmail.fm cancelled review?(clokep@gmail.com) for attachment 1983 on bug 1697.
11:04:27 <instantbot> aletheia2@fastmail.fm requested review from clokep@gmail.com for attachment 1984 on bug 1697.
11:04:29 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1697 tri, --, ---, aletheia2, ASSI, Update /mode command syntax
11:04:43 * clokep feels good about this one.
11:05:37 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com granted review for attachment 1984 on bug 1697.
11:06:10 <aleth> until the next /mode change, then... ;)
11:08:21 * clokep fixed the issue with typeaheadfind!
11:09:50 <clokep> I think at least....
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11:19:59 <clokep> FWIW Samuel Sidler responded again on my blog.
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11:22:03 <aleth> Is he a coder? Maybe he'd like to write an Invisible add-on ;)
11:25:13 <clokep> He uses Adium. :P
11:27:37 <florian> clokep: I saw that, I was tempted to reply to "But just because one or two protocols don't handle it well doesn't mean it shouldn't be implemented as best as possible for all protocols..." saying that the few protocols that don't handle it well happen to be the few protocols that handle it at all :-P
11:27:46 <florian> but that doesn't feel like a productive thing to add to the discussion
11:28:15 <clokep> florian: Yeah, well...oh well.
11:28:37 <clokep> I'm pretty much just responding and being like "It'd be great for extensions to implement"
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11:32:21 * clokep wonders why blogger insists on emailing me when I comment on my own blog...
11:33:24 <aleth> It's a receipt :P
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11:44:27 <clokep> Perhaps. :)
11:47:14 <clokep> Long checkin-needed list!
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12:24:36 <florian> hmm, social API is in toolkit/, really? :(
12:26:24 <clokep> Should be in browser/?
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14:04:06 <clokep> Hmm...seems like nsinstall.exe isn't being built now...
14:04:46 <florian> hasn't that been replaced by nsinstall.py a while ago?
14:05:07 <clokep> The comment in nsinstall.py doesn't make it sound like that...
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14:15:08 <clokep> florian: Got it working. :)
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15:17:39 <aleth> clokep: :)
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15:18:02 <clokep_work> aleth: It doesn't actually build yet.
15:18:19 <aleth> Ah. There's always a catch... ;)
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15:38:30 <clokep_work> aleth: Yes, well it's going well. Just ran out of time.
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16:32:59 <clokep_work> :-S https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=803119 isn't there an option to send the password in clear text?
16:40:04 <clokep_work> florian: Is "Allow sending the password unencrypted" exposed in the UI? It should be AFAIK...
16:41:20 <aleth> STR says he selected that option.
16:41:31 <clokep_work> aleth: STR says he has no idea what he's talking about. ;)
16:41:40 <aleth> Ah :P
16:41:46 <clokep_work> (It kind of implies he does, but it's not clear that he chooses that option IMO.)
16:42:40 <florian> clokep_work: of course there is. I suspect a pebkac.
16:43:17 <clokep_work> florian: Me too.
16:43:19 <florian> oh wait
16:43:42 <florian> I'm sure that option was busted and I fixed it recently in an unrelated xmpp patch
16:43:54 <clokep_work> Oh really?
16:44:00 <clokep_work> Interesting. :)
16:44:32 <florian> clokep_work: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/25d1ab3841be#l1.33
16:44:57 <clokep_work> (I'm sure I reviewed that too, didn't I? :P)
16:45:20 <florian> clokep_work: hg says you did, but I can't prove you actually looked at the line ;)
16:45:39 <clokep_work> florian: Thanks. I'll respond in the bug.
16:45:45 <clokep_work> I assume that was ported already....
16:46:09 <florian> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=789745
16:46:13 <florian> it landed on aurora for Tb17
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16:47:31 * clokep_work inserts foot in mouth.
16:47:33 <clokep_work> Yes, just saw that. :)
16:51:47 * florian would have resolved as FIXED immediately, and said that we could mark as VERIFIED if the reporter confirms with a beta :-D
16:55:41 <clokep_work> I thought about resovling WFM.
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17:49:09 <clokep_work> Wow that's a passive aggressive response to that cleartext bug...
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17:50:58 <florian> clokep_work: yeah... that's kind of a strange way to reply to someone telling you your bug is fixed
17:52:21 <Mook_as> I guess the guy wants starttls? the way he says it is really odd, though...
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17:53:51 <florian> Mook_as: no, he wants a plain text password over an unencrypted connection.
17:54:11 <Mook_as> oh. I was trying to assume something... sensible.
17:54:33 <Mook_as> if you've already leaked the password intentionally, what's the point of the encryption? :p
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18:56:08 <instantbot> New Instantbird (UI) bug 1732 filed by aletheia2@fastmail.fm.
18:56:11 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1732 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Port bug 787149 and the tree-style log selector from TB
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20:03:40 <instantbot> aletheia2@fastmail.fm requested review from clokep@gmail.com for attachment 1985 on bug 1470.
20:03:42 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1470 nor, --, ---, aletheia2, ASSI, Reply to tweet only auto-fills the first (of possibly multiple) nicks
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20:11:43 <clokep_work> Seriously? :(
20:11:47 <clokep_work> I just started reviewing that...
20:13:47 <aleth> You were also patching that? :-/
20:13:49 <aleth> Btw I am not averse to calling that "Reply to all", but that would be a small break from convention.
20:15:02 <aleth> not that we need to follow twitter.com in everything...
20:15:19 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com denied review for attachment 1985 on bug 1470.
20:15:22 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1470 nor, --, ---, aletheia2, ASSI, Reply to tweet only auto-fills the first (of possibly multiple) nicks
20:15:55 <clokep_work> Oh wait...hmm...
20:15:58 * clokep_work is confused now. :-S
20:16:03 <clokep_work> I thought you attached another patch while I was reviewing...
20:16:24 <aleth> Nope
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20:17:11 <aleth> Heh, I was wondering why Object.keys(entities).length and thought "I'll leave it in and see what happens on review" ;)
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20:20:23 <aleth> clokep_work: The map call is there because user_mentions is an array of objects, not of names
20:20:47 <clokep_work> Ah, I see.
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20:20:50 <clokep_work> You're right. :)
20:20:55 <clokep_work> But do you see my point with the "@" anyway?
20:21:02 <clokep_work> Can't we just do that at the end instead of hard coding it in like 15 places?
20:21:10 <aleth> Sure.
20:22:17 <clokep_work> I think it'll clea up the code a bit.
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20:34:23 <clokep_work> aleth: What was your reply to all comment tbw?
20:34:33 <clokep_work> I don't think we need two separate reply things...
20:34:39 <clokep_work> But maybe we should.
20:34:43 <aleth> clokep_work: In reply to an old comment of yours on the bug, where you suggested it ;)
20:35:28 <clokep_work> aleth: Hahah.
20:35:30 <clokep_work> Sorry.
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20:35:43 <aleth> I don't think it's necessary either really, but I have no strong opinion about it.
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20:36:32 <clokep_work> I think we should replace it...unless we find it too annoying.
20:36:36 <clokep_work> Bonus points for hashtags btw.
20:37:33 <aleth> Do you really think so?
20:38:00 <aleth> I think it could get messy.
20:38:28 <aleth> You'd have the cursor somewhere in the middle...
20:38:58 <clokep_work> Hmm....we could do that as a follow up if you want.
20:39:15 <instantbot> aletheia2@fastmail.fm requested review from clokep@gmail.com for attachment 1986 on bug 1470.
20:39:17 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1470 nor, --, ---, aletheia2, ASSI, Reply to tweet only auto-fills the first (of possibly multiple) nicks
20:39:56 <aleth> Yeah, that's probably better. It wouldn't be hard to add at all if it was wanted. 
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20:41:11 <clokep_work> aleth: I mean that the "pos" flag is the actual current position, right? So if you have foo foo bar bar, are the positions 0, 1, 1, 2 or 0, 1, 2, 3
20:41:17 <clokep_work> But let me re-read the code, maybe I'm sayin crazy things.
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20:43:40 <aleth> We just take the first instance of every nick.
20:43:56 <clokep_work> OK...
20:44:04 <clokep_work> I guess I'm not seeing how that works quickly.
20:47:22 <aleth> Not sure what to say beyond "filter returns a new array made out of elements for which the function returns true"
20:50:22 <clokep_work> Yes, I understand that. :)
20:50:35 <aleth> I thought so ;)
20:50:42 <flo> aleth: what about annoying @testib instead of @instantbird for all your tests? ;)
20:51:03 <aleth> flo: No problem now I know of its existence ;)
20:51:33 <clokep_work> I was concerned that if you have foo foo bar baz bar, that you'd end up with foo bar baz bar because everything would shift after the second foo was removed.
20:51:39 <clokep_work> But it seems to know that and give it the proper position.
20:51:46 <flo> aleth: I think a few people here track "instantbird" so we probably all have your tests in our timelines ;)
20:51:57 <aleth> I realize that, sorry.
20:53:29 <flo> it's ok, thanks for working on that bug, it's awesome to see it moving forward! :)
20:54:11 <clokep_work> I don't think I have any more complaints....but I'm looking hard...
20:54:11 <aleth> I deleted the tweets... let's see how that worked ;)
20:54:40 <flo> aleth: instantbird doesn't handle deletions ;)
20:54:53 <flo> aleth: well, it can delete, but not remove deleted tweets
20:55:20 <aleth> Still, anyone not logged in atm won't be bothered by them...
20:55:43 <flo> :)
20:57:50 * clokep_work is logged in at home.
20:57:50 * clokep_work sighs.
20:58:18 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com granted review for attachment 1986 on bug 1470.
20:58:19 <aleth> Take a week off and fix the deletion bug? :P
20:58:20 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1470 nor, --, ---, aletheia2, ASSI, Reply to tweet only auto-fills the first (of possibly multiple) nicks
20:58:49 * aleth suspects that one would require some major changes under the hood
20:58:52 <clokep_work> I'm taking 2 weeks off in November, maybe then. ;)
20:59:07 <aleth> Not sure it's worth it just for deletions though ;)
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21:00:22 <aleth> Whoa, "mozilla" gets a lot of hits when you track it
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21:04:18 <aleth> Is there an IB translation addon?
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21:09:39 <clokep_work> aleth: To do what?
21:09:59 <aleth> Translate selected messages...
21:10:29 <aleth> Or text in the input box for that matter
21:10:43 <clokep_work> aleth: I don't think there is. I'd like one that automatically attempts to translate messages with too many spelling mistakes using the built in spell check.
21:11:19 <aleth> heh :D en-speedtype to en-US
21:12:11 <aleth> Found this: https://addons.instantbird.org/en-US/instantbird/addon/282
21:13:13 <clokep_work> aleth: I think Google Translate shut down their API.
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21:18:23 <aleth> That actuallys works :)
21:19:13 <clokep_work> Just make it automatic and I'll buy you a beer (assuming you're of legal drinking age), next time I see you
21:19:35 <aleth> I'm not sure it works for the spellcheck thing ;)
21:20:35 <EionRobb> google translate shut down their free api, and made it a paywall :(
21:20:44 <EionRobb> which stuffed my auto translate plugin
21:20:52 <EionRobb> though it still works with microsoft translate
21:21:21 <clokep_work> Microsoft FTW.
21:21:30 <clokep_work> aleth: Well make it work w/ that...
21:22:32 <flo> clokep_work: "legal drinking age" doesn't matter as much in Europe.
21:22:51 <clokep_work> flo: Yes...but I'm in the US...and this is logged. ;)
21:23:00 <clokep_work> And aleth could secretly be in the US, who knows!
21:23:07 <EionRobb> its a trap!
21:23:12 <clokep_work> (Bouncing off an italian ISP.)
21:23:20 <aleth> Prohibition agent.
21:23:28 <aleth> Timetravelling from the last century.
21:23:29 <flo> clokep_work: maybe Anne-Marie knows? ;)
21:23:43 <flo> clokep_work: I think she won't tell you though :-P
21:23:50 <clokep_work> EionRobb: I think you mean http://jennybeans.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/its-a-trap.jpg
21:24:21 <clokep_work> I hope so! :)
21:28:15 <clokep_work> Goodnight. :)
21:28:26 <clokep_work> flo: Should I bother uploading WIPs for Moz 16 at all? Or just when it works...?
21:28:59 <flo> where's the answer to "Does this still work well after the array is mutated by removing a duplicated nick?" in that bug?
21:29:18 <clokep_work> flo: The answer to that is me writing test code and checking. ;)
21:29:35 <flo> clokep_work: well, if the WIPs had been attached, I could have spent ~an hour on it now
21:29:52 <clokep_work> flo: :(
21:29:53 <clokep_work> Sorry.
21:29:56 <aleth> flo: The answer is there is no mutation, filter creates a new array.
21:30:00 <clokep_work> Ran out of time this morning.
21:30:03 <clokep_work> I'll put them up for you tomorrow.
21:30:07 <clokep_work> You can review SIPE instead. ;)
21:30:12 <clokep_work> (Or play w/ that other code....)
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21:31:38 <flo> bah, you were discussing that just when I commented about the test tweets :(
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21:32:28 <flo> clokep_work: "You can review SIPE instead. ;)" no. The tree is closed, I'm not going to work on anything for Instantbird that isn't related to reopening the tree ;).
21:34:56 <flo> aleth: I think it's the "nicks = nicks.filter(..." that's confusing
21:36:29 <aleth> That sounds plausible.
21:36:58 <flo> I think it would be less confusing this way:
21:36:59 <flo> let prompt = nicks.filter(...).map(...).join(" ") + " "; (with the correct line breaks)
21:37:45 <aleth> Good idea
21:38:03 <flo> and changing "Remove duplicates" to "Ignore duplicates" in the comment
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21:38:31 <aleth> (Actually, if filter didn't return a new array, that would be a good way to hide a bug ;) )
21:38:46 <aleth> I'll make that change.
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21:50:50 <instantbot> aletheia2@fastmail.fm requested review from florian@instantbird .org for attachment 1987 on bug 1470.
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21:50:53 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1470 nor, --, ---, aletheia2, ASSI, Reply to tweet only auto-fills the first (of possibly multiple) nicks
21:51:08 <aleth> r? purely for the indentation
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22:50:14 <instantbot> florian@instantbird.org granted review for attachment 1987 on bug 1470.
22:50:16 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1470 nor, --, ---, aletheia2, ASSI, Reply to tweet only auto-fills the first (of possibly multiple) nicks
23:08:19 * clokep just read his own messages in a different conversation...
23:08:23 <clokep> Seems weird. :(
23:17:59 <flo> clokep:  ;à
23:18:03 <flo> *;)
23:19:49 <clokep> flo: It makes me wonder if Instantbird should know that clokep_work is also e. :)
23:23:08 <clokep> flo: http://pastebin.instantbird.com/86036 any idea?
23:24:51 <clokep> Ah I think I found it...