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00:36:13 <-- myk has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.3a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 00:44:58 <-- Mook_as has quit (Quit: Mook_as) 01:55:54 <-- skeledrew has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.3a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 01:56:02 --> skeledrew has joined #instantbird 02:50:00 <-- EionRobb has quit (Ping timeout) 02:52:39 --> EionRobb has joined #instantbird 02:55:43 <instant-buildbot> build #623 of linux-nightly-default is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/linux-nightly-default/builds/623 03:01:54 --> Mook has joined #instantbird 03:16:06 <-- clokep has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.3a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 04:14:27 <-- Kaishi has quit (Quit: Kaishi) 04:28:25 --> jb has joined #instantbird 04:48:00 <instant-buildbot> build #701 of win32-nightly-default is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/win32-nightly-default/builds/701 05:37:04 --> nexxuscommand has joined #instantbird 06:04:45 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 06:05:54 --> barlas has joined #instantbird 06:09:22 <-- EionRobb has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 06:09:28 <-- Optimizer has quit (Ping timeout) 06:14:17 <instant-buildbot> build #607 of macosx-nightly-default is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/macosx-nightly-default/builds/607 06:16:25 --> jb has joined #instantbird 06:23:59 --> chrisccoulson has joined #instantbird 06:24:13 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 06:34:20 --> Optimizer has joined #instantbird 06:37:16 <-- chrisccoulson has quit (Quit: Ex-Chat) 06:43:00 --> jb has joined #instantbird 06:45:00 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 06:45:16 --> jb has joined #instantbird 06:48:14 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 06:48:18 --> jb has joined #instantbird 06:57:37 --> chrisccoulson has joined #instantbird 07:00:03 <-- Optimizer has quit (Ping timeout) 07:08:01 <-- Mook has quit (Quit: Mook) 08:14:21 <-- nexxuscommand has quit (Ping timeout) 08:19:23 --> mconley has joined #instantbird 08:33:37 --> Even1 has joined #instantbird 08:33:42 <-- Even1 has quit (Quit: Even1) 08:33:46 --> Even1 has joined #instantbird 08:49:15 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 08:49:15 * ChanServ sets mode +h Mic 08:51:33 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.3a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 08:53:45 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 08:53:45 * ChanServ sets mode +h Mic 09:00:15 <Mic> Hi 09:06:10 --> meh has joined #instantbird 09:13:38 --> flo-retina has joined #instantbird 09:13:43 * flo-retina is now known as florian 09:17:23 <florian> clokep: did we intend to just subscribe people of the old mailing list to the new group "silently"? Or is that not possible? 09:17:51 <instantbot> benediktp@ymail.com requested review from clokep@gmail.com for attachment 1903 on bug 1196. 09:17:53 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1196 enh, --, ---, benediktp, ASSI, Chat tooltips should contain the topic 09:23:09 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.3a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 09:31:27 <-- Tonnes has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.2 [Firefox 14.0.1/20120713134347]) 09:33:35 * florian sends a smile in Mic's direction for patching bug 1196 :). 09:33:38 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1196 enh, --, ---, benediktp, ASSI, Chat tooltips should contain the topic 09:33:50 <florian> (one of my pet bugs) 09:36:37 --> Tonnes has joined #instantbird 10:00:47 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 10:00:47 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep 10:05:09 <-- chrisccoulson has quit (Quit: Ex-Chat) 10:07:02 --> chrisccoulson has joined #instantbird 10:15:37 <-- florian has quit (Ping timeout) 10:16:18 <clokep> flo: I think that would make the most sense, yes. 10:16:30 <clokep> But I need to be an admin on the Google Group then. :) 10:16:47 <clokep> Mic: Awesome, I always try to see the topic in th etooltip! 10:21:00 --> florian has joined #instantbird 10:22:41 <-- florian has quit (Ping timeout) 10:22:51 --> florian has joined #instantbird 10:29:35 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com granted review for attachment 1903 on bug 1196. 10:29:38 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1196 enh, --, ---, benediktp, ASSI, Chat tooltips should contain the topic 10:33:09 <florian> clokep: "I need to be an admin on the Google Group then." that part seems really easy ;). 10:33:30 <florian> which google group is it? contact or team? 10:33:45 <florian> you would maybe also be an admin of the l10n group 10:34:05 <clokep> I meant contact, I didn't think we were necessarily moving team anywhere. 10:34:43 <florian> ah, right that one isn't moving :) 10:39:06 * clokep thinks he could practically type out all the team emails anyway.... 10:39:19 <clokep> Hmm...well maybe now, but yea. :) 10:39:56 <florian> clokep: I think there are people in the team@ list that you may not know/remember 10:40:07 <florian> clokep: but it's likely questionable whether they still need to be on that list though :) 10:40:20 * clokep thinks that https://etherpad.mozilla.org/qIkqbtHTSV should hae been broken into different pads per section... 10:41:22 <florian> oh, you are adding a few cents to that? :) 10:43:05 <clokep> florian: Just idling. 10:43:37 <clokep> Nothing really interesting though -- I assume you're there in person? (I wouldn't mind being poked if something interesting happens.) 10:46:13 <clokep> So anyway, if you make me an admin of contact, I can add those people and send out an email to both lists? 10:47:23 <florian> likely 10:47:38 <florian> clokep: we have mostly been discussing the release plans for Tb after 17. 10:48:03 <florian> with Mark's plan projected on a big screen as a diagram 10:48:19 <florian> and most people seemingly agreeing that it's too complicated. 10:48:33 <florian> (but disagreeing on what would be an improvement to that plan) 10:56:23 <clokep> Ah, I see. 10:56:30 <clokep> Ah the etherpad went down, nice. :) 10:56:44 <-- florian has quit (Ping timeout) 10:57:20 <-- chrisccoulson has quit (Ping timeout) 10:59:01 <-- clokep has quit (Ping timeout) 11:41:09 --> florian has joined #instantbird 11:53:21 --> clokep_work has joined #instantbird 11:53:21 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep_work 12:19:09 <-- florian has quit (Ping timeout) 12:23:01 --> florian has joined #instantbird 12:38:20 <clokep_work> florian: Are we over optimizing for customizability in https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=787433 and should not care until someone files an enhancement request? 12:42:18 <florian> clokep_work: I think per-account is excessive. 12:42:53 <clokep_work> OK. 12:46:00 <clokep_work> I'll do that this afternoon then. 12:46:05 * clokep_work will hopefully be leaving early from work! 12:48:31 <florian> do you think the boolean pref is excessive too? 12:48:49 <florian> I don't care much honestly. 13:04:33 <clokep_work> Yes. :) 13:04:38 <clokep_work> (Until someone complains. ;)) 13:12:28 * clokep_work is tired of using two bugzillas... 13:13:18 <florian> I reinforced that point today with gerv ;). 13:14:10 <clokep_work> It actually has been getting confusing now. :-S 13:16:51 * clokep_work wants to change the link to the discussion group on https://wiki.mozilla.org/Modules/Chat to dev-chat, but the link doesn't work then. :( 13:17:38 --> chrisccoulson has joined #instantbird 13:29:43 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 13:44:54 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 13:44:55 * ChanServ sets mode +h Mic 13:57:09 <-- florian has quit (Ping timeout) 14:01:08 --> jb has joined #instantbird 14:01:09 --> florian has joined #instantbird 14:23:37 --> AlexanderSalas has joined #instantbird 14:33:37 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 14:40:23 <-- Suiseiseki has quit (Ping timeout) 14:58:25 --> zen_monkey has joined #instantbird 14:58:32 <-- zen_monkey has left #instantbird (Saliendo) 14:58:52 <-- barlas has quit (Connection reset by peer) 15:14:49 <clokep_work> SO I was looking at OTR a bit yesterday. 15:14:58 <clokep_work> The algorithm seems pretty complicated, but doable. 15:15:16 <clokep_work> If we can generate DSA keys. Which I assume NSS can do...(in probably some unscriptable way) 15:16:03 --> flo-retina has joined #instantbird 15:17:27 <-- florian has quit (Ping timeout) 15:22:16 --> skeledrew1 has joined #instantbird 15:22:22 <-- skeledrew has quit (Connection reset by peer) 15:24:01 --> Optimizer has joined #instantbird 15:24:08 * flo-retina is now known as florian 15:34:36 <-- Optimizer has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.3a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 15:44:24 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 15:44:39 <instantbot> New Core - IRC bug 1690 filed by clokep@gmail.com. 15:44:41 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1690 enh, --, ---, nobody, NEW, /whois in a private irc conversation should support being parameterless 15:45:44 <-- skeledrew1 has quit (Ping timeout) 15:49:15 <florian> :) 15:51:42 --> skeledrew has joined #instantbird 15:52:07 --> Suiseiseki has joined #instantbird 15:54:06 <-- Suiseiseki has quit (Quit: Leaving) 16:02:59 --> myk has joined #instantbird 16:13:45 <-- AlexanderSalas has quit (Ping timeout) 16:14:38 --> AlexanderSalas has joined #instantbird 16:15:50 --> Optimizer has joined #instantbird 16:17:47 <-- chrisccoulson has quit (Ping timeout) 16:21:11 <-- florian has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.3a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 16:22:04 --> wnayes has joined #instantbird 16:22:19 <-- mconley has quit (Input/output error) 16:22:24 <-- wnayes has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.3a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 16:22:33 --> wnayes has joined #instantbird 16:25:25 <clokep_work> I guess I should file the other one too... 16:25:54 --> jb has joined #instantbird 16:27:16 <instantbot> New Core - IRC bug 1691 filed by clokep@gmail.com. 16:27:18 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1691 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Tooltip for IRC conversations don't show whois information (if conversation target isn't buddy) 16:31:27 <-- skeledrew has quit (Ping timeout) 16:37:12 --> skeledrew has joined #instantbird 16:41:50 <-- AlexanderSalas has quit (Ping timeout) 16:45:19 --> AlexanderSalas has joined #instantbird 16:49:04 <-- jb has quit (Connection reset by peer) 16:52:32 --> Suiseiseki has joined #instantbird 16:57:29 --> Mook_as has joined #instantbird 16:59:49 <-- Mook_as has quit (Quit: Mook_as) 17:00:30 --> Mook_as has joined #instantbird 17:02:04 <-- Mook_as has quit (Quit: Mook_as) 17:02:26 --> Mook_as has joined #instantbird 17:03:29 <-- AlexanderSalas has quit (Connection reset by peer) 17:03:33 --> AlexanderSalas has joined #instantbird 17:31:42 <-- AlexanderSalas has quit (Ping timeout) 17:38:57 <-- clokep_work has quit (Input/output error) 17:42:13 <-- Mook_as has quit (Quit: Mook_as) 17:42:34 --> Mook_as has joined #instantbird 17:43:01 <Mook_as> yay, removing the StartupWMClass bit in my .desktop worked. (I copied it, incorrectly, from firefox.desktop) 17:43:25 --> AlexanderSalas has joined #instantbird 17:43:39 <Mook_as> err, that was meant to go to #thunderbird wasn't it? sorry, was thinking of the person involved, not the channel.... :p 18:02:29 --> DGMurdockIII has joined #instantbird 18:10:30 <-- AlexanderSalas has quit (Ping timeout) 18:18:28 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 18:18:28 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep 18:22:28 --> AlexanderSalas has joined #instantbird 18:23:02 <clokep> Mook_as: Well good that it went in here cause now I saw it in the log. :P 18:23:02 <-- DGMurdockIII has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.2 [Firefox 15.0/20120824154833]) 18:25:54 <Mook_as> fwiw: it looks like the guy can skip sudo and drop it in ~/.local/share/applications/ instead. (and that's back on topic about ib!) 18:28:34 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com requested review from florian@instantbird .org for attachment 1904 on bug 1689. 18:28:37 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1689 nor, --, ---, clokep, ASSI, Windows build failure: mv: cannot stat `fake.lib' : No such file or directory" 18:28:48 <clokep> :) 19:14:27 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 19:17:26 <-- harisund has quit (Ping timeout) 19:18:59 --> harisund has joined #instantbird 19:29:12 <-- AlexanderSalas has quit (Quit: Goodbye - as-salamu 3alaykum) 19:31:13 --> AlexanderSalas has joined #instantbird 19:43:42 <aleth> I seem to have broken hide autojoins for twitter 19:44:08 <clokep> You break it, you buy it. 19:44:15 <aleth> Pretty much. 19:44:24 <aleth> Especially since it annoys me ;) 19:44:27 <clokep> Any idea what's going on with it? 19:44:56 <aleth> I guess setting the topic opens the conversation for some reason 19:45:15 <clokep> Hmmm....that's possible. 19:45:15 <aleth> That's the only recent change after all 19:45:18 <clokep> Unlikely though. 19:45:28 <aleth> Has it always been broken? 19:45:51 <clokep> It does not, I just tested. 19:45:54 <clokep> "it"? 19:46:14 <aleth> Hide autojoins, for twitter timelines 19:47:03 <clokep> Ah, it worked I think. 19:47:06 <clokep> Then was broken. 19:47:09 <clokep> Then was fixed. 19:47:11 <clokep> And now is broken? 19:47:17 <aleth> Oh joy :P 19:47:39 <clokep> http://hg.instantbird.org/addons/rev/e02aab0a21ab was the problem last time. 19:48:13 <aleth> Something completely different... 19:55:16 <clokep> Probably. ;) DO you know which commit broke it? 19:55:28 <clokep> Was it definitely the Twitter topics? 19:57:34 <aleth> No, that's just my guess, as it's only twitter where it fails sometimes 19:58:43 --> jb has joined #instantbird 19:59:06 * clokep doesn't like "sometimes" 20:05:19 <-- clokep has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.3a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 20:05:25 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 20:05:25 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep 20:06:58 <clokep> http://hg.instantbird.org/addons/file/tip/hideautojoins/bootstrap.js#l22 20:07:21 <clokep> There's no more "@" apparently. 20:07:28 <aleth> aha! 20:07:33 <aleth> well spotted :) 20:07:58 <clokep> What was the thought behind removing i again? 20:08:02 <aleth> I was looking at the twitter code, not the add-on, as I had guessed the add-on was just a symptom that made me notice 20:08:20 <clokep> If you file a bug w/ a patch I'll commit it. 20:08:59 <aleth> It's consistent with how we handle twitter nicks, it's what twitter.com does, @ isn't part of the nick it's just a hack twitter uses, and it looks better. 20:09:22 <clokep> OK. 20:09:30 <clokep> So...patch coming up? Or are you going to make me do it? ;) 20:09:50 <aleth> I can do it, unless you are bored ;) 20:12:35 * clokep is packing. 20:12:50 <aleth> another hol? 20:13:55 <clokep> Business. 20:16:40 <-- micahg has quit (Connection reset by peer) 20:17:05 --> micahg has joined #instantbird 20:17:10 <-- micahg has quit (Input/output error) 20:21:59 * clokep wonders what that line for Twitter is even doing... 20:27:18 <clokep> aleth: So bug 1457, should we just use the first one and drop the others you think? 20:27:21 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1457 min, --, ---, clokep, ASSI, Make use of all WHOWAS 312/314 response pairs 20:29:10 --> micahg has joined #instantbird 20:53:07 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 20:57:36 <-- AlexanderSalas has quit (Quit: Goodbye - as-salamu 3alaykum) 21:00:17 --> jb has joined #instantbird 21:09:31 --> jb1 has joined #instantbird 21:09:43 <-- jb has quit (Connection reset by peer) 21:21:24 --> mconley has joined #instantbird 21:40:23 <instantbot> florian@instantbird.org granted review for attachment 1904 on bug 1689. 21:40:28 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1689 nor, --, ---, clokep, ASSI, Windows build failure: mv: cannot stat `fake.lib' : No such file or directory" 21:42:03 <aleth> clokep: Now you've written the code to store them all, we might as well keep it. Someone can always add a sort or a way to display them all if that is wanted later. 21:42:32 <aleth> It's definitely an improvement because it will give the correct result on mozilla.org :) 21:42:59 <clokep> Which is all we really care about, right? ;) 21:43:16 <aleth> sssh ;) 21:45:01 * clokep is just wondering if he over engineered the solution. :) 21:45:22 <aleth> well, you built it half-way and then hit the JS date barrier :D 21:47:08 <clokep> Yeah, yeah. 21:47:21 <clokep> I keep thinking /someone/ must have written a badass date parser for JS. 21:47:25 <clokep> But I haven't come across it. :P 21:47:41 <aleth> I don't think anyone is ever going to add sort, but someone might want to display all the entries somewhere 21:48:02 <aleth> "Connection history"... if appropriately parsed 21:48:23 <aleth> or "Recent connections" 21:48:32 <-- mconley has quit (Input/output error) 21:48:41 <aleth> Then it would be useful to have the array. 21:49:15 * clokep wonders if he should let /that/ person generate the array. ;) 21:49:32 * aleth wonders if clokep should add that kind of output to his patch ;) 21:49:50 <clokep> I think that that's pretty verbose... 21:50:04 <aleth> ^^ not seriously, since the current "tooltip" format would make it horrendously longwinded 21:50:14 <clokep> I think 1/2 the stuff in IRC is useless information only geeks in interested in, and the half of information I' actually interested in is hard to get. 21:50:21 <clokep> (Likie you know, if someone is online. :P) 21:50:32 <aleth> Anyway, I'm happy either way, if you want to take it out again please do ;) 21:50:45 <aleth> Yes, IRC is funny that way. Probably most protocols are... 21:50:58 <Mook_as> clokep: ... are you talking about the protocol, or what goes over it? :p 21:51:24 <clokep> Mook_as: Well mostly the protocol, but your messages fit in the category of "tsuff I don't care about" too. ;) 21:51:41 * aleth suspects Mook_as is a wallops user ;) 21:51:55 <aleth> s/a/the only? 21:52:00 * clokep suspects aleth just called Mook_as pretentious. 21:52:19 <aleth> naah that was the help message, not the command ;) 21:52:53 * clokep will probably waer his Thunderbird t-shirt again while traveling tomorrow. ;) 21:53:04 <clokep> Seriously, we should get Instantbird t-shirts. :P It'd be a lot cooler. 21:53:40 <aleth> you could add an "Instantbird inside" swoosh sticker to the TB shirt ;) 21:54:43 <clokep> Hahahaha. 21:54:55 <-- Optimizer has quit (Ping timeout) 21:55:01 <clokep> "Made with 100% natural ingredients!"? 21:55:11 * clokep is now wishing we had a quotes database too. ;) 21:55:52 <aleth> crunchy IRC goodness :D 21:58:32 --> Optimizer has joined #instantbird 21:59:12 <aleth> clokep: http://pastebin.instantbird.com/73121 22:00:41 <clokep> aleth: Looks good. 22:02:06 <aleth> It's only there for future-proofing anyway 22:03:34 <clokep> aleth: Do we care if it's not backwards compatible? 22:03:57 * clokep doesn't really care. 22:04:53 <aleth> It's not going to be pushed to AIO anyway until 1.3, is it 22:05:43 <clokep> aleth: http://pastebin.instantbird.com/73122 22:06:34 <aleth> Right, that's a good idea. 22:06:39 <aleth> Thanks! 22:07:28 * clokep assumes you tested that, right? 22:07:37 <aleth> Umm... 22:07:48 <aleth> OK, I will, just a minute 22:09:25 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: Au revoir) 22:09:35 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 22:09:35 * ChanServ sets mode +h aleth 22:09:51 <aleth> clokep: Yup, tested. 22:10:15 <clokep> aleth: http://hg.instantbird.org/addons/rev/9abdd2e90a8b 22:17:36 --> Kaishi has joined #instantbird 23:16:20 <-- jb1 has quit (Ping timeout) 23:16:46 --> jb has joined #instantbird 23:51:28 <-- Optimizer has quit (Ping timeout) 23:53:02 <-- myk has left #instantbird () 23:55:05 --> Optimizer has joined #instantbird 23:56:40 <-- aleth has quit (Input/output error)