#instantbird log on 09 01 2012

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00:59:17 <clokep> flo: Have you not pushed in a wihle or have there been no check-ins?
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01:23:27 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com requested review from aletheia2@fastmail. fm for attachment 1877 on bug 1559.
01:23:33 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1559 nor, --, ---, clokep, ASSI, IRC should abide by messenger.conversations.autoAcceptChatInvitations
01:40:29 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com requested review from aletheia2@fastmail. fm for attachment 1878 on bug 1659.
01:40:34 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1659 nor, --, ---, clokep, ASSI, Unhandled IRC message 442: You're not on that channel
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02:15:56 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com requested feedback from aletheia2@fastmai l.fm for attachment 1879 on bug 1655.
02:16:03 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1655 enh, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Unhandled IRC messages around bans
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02:58:28 <instant-buildbot> build #617 of linux-nightly-default is complete: Success [build successful]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/linux-nightly-default/builds/617
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05:08:45 <instant-buildbot> build #695 of win32-nightly-default is complete: Success [build successful]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/win32-nightly-default/builds/695
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06:13:29 <instant-buildbot> build #601 of macosx-nightly-default is complete: Success [build successful]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/macosx-nightly-default/builds/601
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08:28:06 <flo> clokep: I forgot to hg push yesterday and the day before because of my broken internet connection. Just pushed now the 2 changesets that have been waiting (commited locally)
08:36:17 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/824b4152cea8 - Patrick Cloke - Follow-up to bug 1615 - Fix display of new lines to match outgoing messages, r=fqueze.
08:36:18 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/81bb0edd4c35 - Patrick Cloke - Bug 1684 - Name of the inviter not correctly displayed when invited to join an IRC channel, r=fqueze.
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09:12:14 <instantbot> florian@instantbird.org granted review for attachment 1874 on bug 1666.
09:12:18 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1666 enh, --, ---, aletheia2, ASSI, Set twitter topic to the user's self-description
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09:25:16 <instantbot> aletheia2@fastmail.fm granted review for attachment 1877 on bug 1559.
09:25:20 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1559 nor, --, ---, clokep, ASSI, IRC should abide by messenger.conversations.autoAcceptChatInvitations
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10:26:24 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/2faddbe1fe0b - Patrick Cloke - Bug 1559 - IRC should abide by messenger.conversations.autoAcceptChatInvitations, r=aleth.
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11:04:43 <instantbot> aletheia2@fastmail.fm granted review for attachment 1878 on bug 1659.
11:04:46 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1659 nor, --, ---, clokep, ASSI, Unhandled IRC message 442: You're not on that channel
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12:12:31 <instantbot> aletheia2@fastmail.fm granted feedback for attachment 1879 on bug 1655.
12:12:33 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1655 enh, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Unhandled IRC messages around bans
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12:16:17 <clokep> aleth: My question with bug 1666 is...should we not try to handle the topic being too long and just send it to the server and use an error handler?
12:16:20 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1666 enh, --, ---, aletheia2, ASSI, Set twitter topic to the user's self-description
12:16:55 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com set the Resolution field on bug 1684 to FIXED.
12:16:57 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1684 nor, --, 1.3, clokep, RESO FIXED, Name of the inviter not correctly displayed when invited to join an IRC channel
12:17:42 <aleth> clokep: No, because the error message we get back isn't very nice, so you'd need to special-case it anyway. You'd also lose the description the user entered altogether, which is annoying.
12:18:08 <clokep> Ah, it doesn't like return the description back to you?
12:18:12 <clokep> OK. :)
12:18:16 <aleth> No. The API effectively says "don't try this"
12:18:21 * clokep is satisfied with that answer.
12:19:08 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com set the Resolution field on bug 1559 to FIXED.
12:19:10 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1559 nor, --, 1.3, clokep, RESO FIXED, IRC should abide by messenger.conversations.autoAcceptChatInvitations
12:19:42 <aleth> Alright, time to try and finish that unfun keyboard accessibility bug.
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12:26:00 <clokep> flo: And I understand with the Internet, I was moslty concerned about the patch I had pastebinned. :) I would have attached it to a bug otherwise. ;)
12:30:38 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com set the Resolution field on bug 614 to DUPLICATE of bug 1657.
12:30:42 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=614 nor, --, ---, nobody, RESO DUPLICATE, No feedback when failing to join protected IRC channels
12:30:43 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1657 nor, --, 1.3, clokep, RESO FIXED, Unhandled IRC message 475 ERR_BADCHANNELKEY
12:32:25 <aleth> Yay, another old bug closed :)
12:34:00 <clokep> Yeah.
12:34:12 <clokep> So with the ban masks bug...do we even care to display them?
12:35:50 <aleth> Is it useful? Is there some other way to get the info?
12:37:55 <clokep> I don't think it's useful enough to display in the conversation really. :-/
12:38:02 <clokep> But it's kind of information you would want to get somehow.
12:38:39 <aleth> I don't see where else you would display it...
12:39:03 <aleth> And you encountered the bug because you wanted to get the info.
12:39:29 <aleth> So now you've written the code, why not use it? Unless there is a better way of course
12:40:07 <clokep> aleth: So the only way I can think of...is a tooltip of the conversation.
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12:41:14 <aleth> clokep: But that's just clutter to most users.
12:41:38 <clokep> aleth: Well conversations don't have tooltips yet. ;)
12:41:53 <aleth> Minimal ones ;)
12:42:57 <aleth> If it's in the tooltip, we always have to fetch it, even though it's almost never needed.
12:43:14 * clokep shrugs.
12:43:34 <clokep> It is essentially WHOIS information. :)
12:43:40 <aleth> I was wondering whether it should be hidden in some way unless you are op/half-op/have the right to ban people
12:44:12 <clokep> Yeah that could work.
12:44:18 <aleth> i.e. is it ultimately part of some set of functions that only become available when you have those privs
12:44:43 <aleth> Because then there might be other things one would want to add to that "interface"...
12:45:00 <aleth> Though I haven't really thought about it
12:46:02 <aleth> ooh, moving tabs is nice in FF17!
12:46:42 <clokep> Right, I had thought of making an extension like that, but...yeah...
12:48:21 <clokep> Hmm....I'll table it now and think about it more. :)
12:59:49 <instantbot> aletheia2@fastmail.fm requested review from florian@instantbird .org for attachment 1880 on bug 1658.
12:59:50 <instantbot> aletheia2@fastmail.fm requested feedback from jamie@nvaccess.or g for attachment 1880 on bug 1658.
12:59:53 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1658 nor, --, ---, aletheia2, ASSI, Improve keyboard accessibility of the contact list
13:11:32 <clokep> aleth: Want to see something crazy?
13:11:44 <aleth> sure :)
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13:12:05 <clokep> If I send a mode of +bk ban!*@* keys, I get the following response: :clokep!Instantbir@moz-69FB3955.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com MODE #testib +bk ban!*@* keys
13:13:11 <clokep> It returns both the banmask AND the new key.
13:13:18 <clokep> (I'm handling the new key case right now.)
13:14:46 <aleth> IRC: expect the unexpected :P
13:15:35 <clokep> I mean it...makes sense...it's just...difficult to parse.
13:15:40 <clokep> But I have a way. ;)
13:15:58 <aleth> Somehow I suspect that's server dependent too...
13:16:37 <aleth> Or at least it might be.
13:17:00 <clokep> Probably. :)
13:17:21 <aleth> When there are two sensible ways of doing something, usually four are implemented ;)
13:17:40 <clokep> Bah I actually need to open up RFC 281*3*
13:19:24 <clokep> pymake is being officially used on Windows starting w/ Fx 18.
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13:25:46 <aleth> Hadn't you been using that already anyway for IB?
13:26:43 <aleth> "This post is about Personas, also known as lightweight themes, not Browser ID, now known as Persona" <-- o joy ;)
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13:32:17 <clokep> Yes, but official builds were done using gmake.
13:39:43 <clokep> I think we're actually handling mode messages fairly inaccurately right now. :-/
13:39:50 * clokep is frustrated as he looks at this more...
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13:40:52 <aleth> MODE is the gift that never stops giving bugs ;)
13:41:24 <aleth> Are there some hidden problems when combining modes? I don't think we ever tested that...
13:46:51 <clokep> The format is just stupid in general.
13:46:53 <clokep> It should be multiple messages.
13:51:35 <clokep> aleth: And apparently you can mix user and mode modes too.
13:51:50 <clokep> Like +to aleth would set the topic to be editable only by ops and set you to op.
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13:56:52 <aleth> :-S
13:57:09 <aleth> That's terrible overloading.
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14:04:59 <clokep> Yeah, you probably don't want to see what I have right now...
14:05:46 <aleth> Do we want/have to support that?
14:06:18 <clokep> It's not TOO awful, just means I need to change a bunch of code around...
14:06:26 <aleth> OK..
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14:08:40 <clokep> aleth: I just hope you can't do something like +oh foo bar, that will be annoying.
14:08:47 * clokep has a feeling you can...
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15:34:09 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com requested feedback from aletheia2@fastmai l.fm for attachment 1881 on bug 1541.
15:34:11 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1541 nor, --, ---, clokep, ASSI, MODE fails to handle when a key is set and we are in the room
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15:41:40 <igorko> hi
15:41:53 <igorko> doesn anyone herehave apple developer ID?
15:42:12 <igorko> i need Xcode 2.5 but their registration is down
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16:35:00 <instantbot> wnayes@gmail.com cancelled review?(florian@instantbird .org) for attachment 1814 on bug 1495.
16:35:01 <instantbot> wnayes@gmail.com requested review from florian@instantbird .org for attachment 1882 on bug 1495.
16:35:02 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1495 enh, --, ---, wnayes, ASSI, Create an account import wizard - GSoC 2012
16:46:00 <clokep> Thanks wnayes.
16:46:38 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com granted feedback for attachment 1875 on bug 1683.
16:46:40 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1683 enh, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Restore participants' active status if still appropriate after a reconnect
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17:30:15 * wnayes hopes his school internet will keep wnayes1 away for good :)
17:30:57 <clokep> Ah, your evil twin? :P
17:32:17 <wnayes> He seems to take advantage of the smallest drops in connection.
17:41:47 <clokep> Hopefully your school allows IRC connections. ;)
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17:52:15 <wnayes> I think they even host their own IRC server, for EFNet I believe.
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17:55:52 <clokep> Ah, nice. :)
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18:10:01 <aleth> http://dxr.allizom.org has regexp and you can refine as you go along :)\
18:15:11 <clokep> aleth: Does it have c-c?
18:15:33 <aleth> If it does, I haven't figured out how to get to it
18:17:04 <aleth> My guess based on the URL is that it's the nightly version of dxr ;)
18:17:37 <clokep> It is.
18:17:56 <aleth> uh, did you just double the length of the MODE code? ;)
18:19:30 <clokep> aleth: Probably triple. ;)
18:23:58 <clokep> I think it's still fairly easy to follow though.
18:24:01 <clokep> I removed a lot of code too.
18:25:10 <aleth> I'm more puzzled by what is allowed and what isn't... like you say what if two of the modes set require parameters. That's not in the RFC, right?
18:25:43 <clokep> The parameters is a set of parameters, it's not a single one.
18:25:51 <clokep> It is in the RFC, I just read it poorly.
18:28:31 <aleth> Can one do "+oo clokep flo" for example?
18:28:58 <clokep> aleth: I believe so.
18:29:36 <aleth> Right, so it's a stack of parameters. That's what I thought (reading the RFC just now) but its ab it obscure
18:29:43 * clokep sets mode +vv wnayes skeledrew1 
18:29:51 <clokep> aleth: Yes, you can. ;)
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18:30:47 <clokep> Yay for breaking everyone's bindings. ;)
18:31:02 <clokep> So that's valid (and it works if you quit and rejoin.) Instantbird just fails to handle it.
18:31:24 <aleth> yup :)
18:33:06 <aleth> Did you spot this by accident or was there some TB bug report on it?
18:33:13 <clokep> You like what I did with the channel key though? ;)
18:33:20 <clokep> I spotted it by inspection.
18:33:26 <clokep> As I was reading the code and the RFC.
18:33:32 <clokep> And went "WTF is our code doing."
18:34:25 <aleth> Nice one. I never knew mode could do that...
18:36:19 <clokep> :)
18:37:54 <aleth> Seems our UI is lacking some icons too
18:38:00 <aleth> e.g. for 'creator'
18:38:43 <aleth> (if that's something we want to indicate)
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18:45:58 <clokep> We have an icon for that.
18:46:31 <aleth> That looks exactly like the gold star for op? or is it just not used atm?
18:47:35 <clokep> aleth: http://lxr.instantbird.org/instantbird/source/instantbird/themes/founder.png
18:47:39 <clokep> It's not used at the moment.
18:47:44 <clokep> The code is wrong.
18:47:44 <clokep> We never set it.
18:48:09 <aleth> Right. So many details... ;)
18:48:41 <clokep> Yeah that bug has a lot in it...sorry. :(
18:48:53 <aleth> It just needs retitling then it is fine :P
18:49:09 <clokep> Yeah...I mean I found the bug when I went to implement that. :P
18:49:58 <aleth> Sure... a bit like that one I fixed which was something like "nick is all lower caps in the conv-top"
18:50:25 <aleth> tip-of-the-iceberg bugs ;)
19:03:35 <clokep> aleth: I was told to try http://zenit.senecac.on.ca/wiki/dxr/search.html but it might not be fully up to date.
19:05:26 <clokep> But then I was told that that's "ancient". ;) So never mind.
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19:12:00 <aleth> I can't believe there's a STRIP_BAD_WORDS mode :D
19:12:19 <aleth> I hope it replaces them with a bell.
19:30:51 <instantbot> aletheia2@fastmail.fm granted feedback for attachment 1881 on bug 1541.
19:30:54 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1541 nor, --, ---, clokep, ASSI, MODE fails to handle when a key is set and we are in the room
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20:40:10 <instantbot> aletheia2@fastmail.fm requested review from clokep@gmail.com for attachment 1883 on bug 1683.
20:40:13 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1683 enh, --, ---, aletheia2, ASSI, Restore participants' active status if still appropriate after a reconnect
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21:15:16 <instantbot> aletheia2@fastmail.fm requested review from clokep@gmail.com for attachment 1884 on bug 1683.
21:15:20 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1683 enh, --, ---, aletheia2, ASSI, Restore participants' active status if still appropriate after a reconnect
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21:56:26 <instantbot> aletheia2@fastmail.fm cancelled review?(clokep@gmail.com) for attachment 1884 on bug 1683.
21:56:29 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1683 enh, --, ---, aletheia2, ASSI, Restore participants' active status if still appropriate after a reconnect
21:59:10 <instantbot> New Instantbird (UI) bug 1686 filed by aletheia2@fastmail.fm.
21:59:11 <instantbot> aletheia2@fastmail.fm requested review from clokep@gmail.com for attachment 1885 on bug 1686.
21:59:12 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1686 nor, --, ---, nobody, ASSI, Nicklist speedup: low-hanging fruit
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22:34:58 <instantbot> aletheia2@fastmail.fm cancelled review?(clokep@gmail.com) for attachment 1885 on bug 1686.
22:34:59 <instantbot> aletheia2@fastmail.fm requested review from clokep@gmail.com for attachment 1886 on bug 1686.
22:35:01 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1686 nor, --, ---, nobody, ASSI, Nicklist speedup: low-hanging fruit
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