#instantbird log on 08 02 2012

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00:00:10 <aleth> That may be the OS-dependent part here
00:00:41 <aleth> If the opening procedure takes long enough that you get two scroll events, the bug manifests.
00:00:47 <flo> look at line 175 of view-source:http://lxr.instantbird.org/instantbird/source/instantbird/themes/messages/bubbles/Footer.html
00:01:03 <aleth> Yes, that's one possible source.
00:01:23 <aleth> But I also saw it with another message style I think (its a while ago)
00:03:05 <aleth> I think switching between tabs/windows while the messages are being added also triggers scroll events
00:03:21 <aleth> if I remember correctly
00:04:05 <aleth> But it doesn't really matter, as I don't see how the patch could break anything. it just keeps the flag set
00:04:50 <flo> the comment above it just doesn't mean anything
00:05:00 <flo> so nobody will ever dare removing that line of code
00:05:32 <aleth> How would you phrase it?
00:05:38 <flo> even if the real bug is long gone
00:05:45 <flo> I wouldn't. I still have no idea of what it does.
00:06:43 * flo wonders if clokep would like to chime in and see if I'm just being stupid or if this is really as confusing as it seems to me
00:06:54 <clokep> flo: What am I looking at?
00:07:04 <flo> (not it's the second time that it's very late at night when I'm looking at it :-/)
00:07:11 * clokep could use a break from Downhill Jam anyway...
00:07:16 <flo> clokep: bug 1530
00:07:19 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1530 nor, --, ---, aletheia2, ASSI, Autoscroll subtly broken after moz13 update
00:08:18 <clokep> So I don't know that code very well at all.
00:08:30 <clokep> But that comment doesn't seem to make much sense, yes.
00:08:33 <flo> I understand neither the issue nor the proposed change, so it makes me quite uncomfortable
00:09:05 <aleth> flo: Line 412 causes line 234 when we add messages. But not when the first messages are being added, because thats when aNoAutoScroll is false.
00:10:04 <aleth> scrollingIntoView set means browserScroll events are harmless (line 568)
00:11:27 <aleth> so the comment is precise in that autoscroll=false stops that flag from being set. therefore two scroll events in succession will get to line 587 and thus turn off autoScrollEnabled
00:11:33 <flo> s/harmless/ignored/
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00:11:58 <flo> I don't think we want to ignore scroll events caused by the user while the messages are still being displayed while restoring a large conv on hold
00:12:30 <flo> autoscroll=false also stops scroll events from happening ;)
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00:13:26 <aleth> If the user starts to scroll he will generally cause more than two scroll events 
00:13:59 <aleth> So they won't be ignored.
00:16:27 <aleth> That's just as usual when messages are added.
00:16:54 <flo> so what's causing scroll events if it's not the user and not the conversation binding's auto-scroll feature?
00:17:17 <aleth> More to the point, why did it only start causing them after the moz update?
00:18:07 <flo> I suspect the scrollIntoView from Footer.html
00:18:23 <aleth> So do I, and/or switching between windows or tabs during the restore
00:19:39 <flo> and if you combine that scrollIntoView + the bogus time interval next to the unread ruler caused for the reason you explained in the other bug at the time we switch between tabs, you may be having an explanation of the annoying behavior I was seeing.
00:20:51 <flo> ie. when I switch back to the conversation, the unread ruler is removed. The split bubble is rejoined, and the time interval is crazy, causing a scroll even that disables auto-scroll, and when a next message arrives it's not scrolled into view
00:21:44 <aleth> Hmm... if you are scrolled to the bottom, I don't see how it could disable autoscroll
00:22:35 <flo> + I didn't notice a crazy interval at the time, and I'm not sure there's a reason why it would disappear after being displayed
00:23:15 <aleth> The interval doesn't disappear once it's been added.
00:23:26 <flo> yeah...
00:23:32 <flo> so that's not a good explanation
00:23:39 <aleth> Anyway, I'll try to fix that bug tomorrow.
00:23:53 <flo> would still be nice to know why you have scroll events
00:24:06 <aleth> Yes. Hard to trace though...
00:24:07 <flo> I would suggest putting a dump call just before the scrollIntoView of Footer.html
00:24:19 <flo> it shouldn't be called at all while restoring a conversation on hold
00:24:47 <flo> because it's executed from a setTimeout, and we cancel that timer as soon as a new message is added; which should be immediately while restoring a conv on hold
00:25:03 <flo> so put a dump there, and another one in the scroll event handler
00:25:30 <flo> if they appear at the same time, you'll now our suspission was right.
00:27:00 <flo> and btw, I think we are sinking into that bug more time than it's worth this close to a release. The "wontfix for 1.2 as we don't have a good understanding" statement I had in that etherpad may be the best option
00:27:20 <aleth> You say this because it doesn't happen all the time for you ;)
00:27:22 <flo> and if we suspect it's caused by the mozilla update, then updating mozilla again this week worries me :(
00:27:36 <flo> aleth: I say this because the patch doesn't make sense.
00:27:37 <aleth> It definitely didn't happen before (for whatever reason)
00:27:54 <aleth> I don't understand why you don't think it makes sense.
00:28:01 <flo> aleth: if it happens that often, maybe you would like to find a regression ranger?
00:28:02 <flo> *range
00:28:24 * clokep wonders how he used to follow conversations w/o context messages and without the unread ruler.
00:28:25 <aleth> It's just that we don't know where the events are coming from
00:28:56 <aleth> flo: That would be tricky as "often" still is only "maybe twice a day"
00:28:58 <flo> aleth: because you are unable to write a comment that explain what's happening instead of mentioning the names of the methods you have in your call stack ;)
00:29:11 <flo> aleth: you just said it was "all the time" :-P
00:29:26 <aleth> ca. twice a day is enough to be annoying :P
00:30:06 <flo> could you be having a broken mouse sending random scroll events? :)
00:30:44 <flo> aleth: I think we are the only two who have complained about scrolling issues; and it turns out the issues we were seeing could be different.
00:30:45 <aleth> no.
00:31:54 <aleth> Sure, it's not a blocker or anything.
00:32:52 <flo> yeah...
00:33:15 <flo> I think we will suddenly guess/know what's going on, and find a simple fix. But it could be in a few weeks.
00:34:06 <flo> anyway, good night :)
00:34:27 <flo> and sorry I can't pretend to like the patch :-/.
00:34:41 <aleth> heh.
00:34:55 <aleth> It's not satisfying...
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00:35:46 <clokep> Goodnight. :)
00:36:06 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/d90405b24e81 - Florian Quèze - Bug 1474 - Port Mozilla Bug 494311 - Remove the locale from updater.ini, r=clokep.
00:36:07 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/9e3a83b7f2bb - Patrick Cloke - Bug 1439 - Make unambiguous command prefixes work as command aliases, r=aleth.
00:36:08 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/42b4d2d16959 - Florian Quèze - Bug 1523 - Aliasing a JS-XMPP buddy should store the alias on the server, r=clokep.
00:36:09 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/3402ce2191b3 - Florian Quèze - Bug 1546 - Fix packaging of license files, and include the Apple Bonjour and the GPL licenses in about:license, r=clokep.
00:37:28 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com set the Resolution field on bug 1474 to FIXED.
00:37:30 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1474 nor, --, 1.2, florian, RESO FIXED, Port Mozilla Bug 494311 - Remove the locale from updater.ini
00:37:58 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com set the Resolution field on bug 1439 to FIXED.
00:38:05 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1439 enh, --, 1.2, clokep, RESO FIXED, Make unambiguous command prefixes work as command aliases
00:38:39 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com set the Resolution field on bug 1523 to FIXED.
00:38:41 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1523 nor, --, 1.2, florian, RESO FIXED, Aliasing a JS-XMPP buddy should store the alias on the server
00:38:59 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com set the Resolution field on bug 1557 to FIXED.
00:39:01 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1557 nor, --, 1.2, florian, RESO FIXED, Contact names set in other clients don't show in Instantbird
00:39:49 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com set the Resolution field on bug 1546 to FIXED.
00:39:51 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1546 nor, --, 1.2, florian, RESO FIXED, license.html not distributed with Instantbird
00:42:58 <clokep> aleth: Check out that attachment and see if you think it's an improvement?
00:43:06 <clokep> (For bug 1107)
00:43:10 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1107 nor, --, ---, aletheia2, ASSI, Contact list section header styling for Linux
00:46:40 <aleth> You mean left: with patch, right?
00:46:46 <clokep> No.
00:46:49 <clokep> Yes.
00:46:51 <clokep> I do, sorry.
00:47:19 <clokep> Wait, now I'm confused. :-S
00:47:35 <clokep> Yes, left is with the patch.
00:48:04 <aleth> I think it's an improvement, yes.
00:49:57 <aleth> Not as marked as on the other screenshot, but still...
00:52:22 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com granted review for attachment 1403 on bug 1107.
00:52:25 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1107 nor, --, ---, aletheia2, ASSI, Contact list section header styling for Linux
00:53:10 <aleth> What's really annoying on Linux is that because the themes/window managers vary so much, it's pretty much impossible to really optimize things.
00:53:44 <clokep> Yeah. :-/ I figured as much.
00:55:56 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com granted review for attachment 1745 on bug 1471.
00:55:59 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1471 nor, --, ---, aletheia2, NEW, Log viewer content is missing context menu
00:56:51 <clokep> Sorry I've been an awful reviewer recently aleth. :-/
00:57:33 <instant-buildbot> build #294 of linux-onCommit is complete: Success [build successful]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/linux-onCommit/builds/294
00:57:35 <aleth> No worries... that patch has been sitting there since forever anyway.
00:58:48 <aleth> The only downside to that was that I might have tuned it some more if it had been in the nightlies for a bit.
01:03:15 <clokep> It's an imrpvoement at least. :)
01:03:21 <clokep> Now onto bug 1108....
01:03:25 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1108 min, --, ---, bugi, ASSI, Names of folder and files are not checked against forbidden names.
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01:25:56 <clokep> wnayes: I might want you to review that bug too after me. :) You've been in the logger recently.
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01:37:46 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com granted review for attachment 1748 on bug 1108.
01:37:49 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1108 min, --, ---, bugi, ASSI, Names of folder and files are not checked against forbidden names.
01:39:37 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com requested review from wnayes@gmail.com for attachment 1772 on bug 1108.
01:41:26 <clokep> Mic: I'll get to your patch soon, but probably not tonight.
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02:39:52 <instant-buildbot> build #262 of macosx-onCommit is complete: Success [build successful]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/macosx-onCommit/builds/262
03:08:04 <instant-buildbot> build #576 of linux-nightly-default is complete: Success [build successful]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/linux-nightly-default/builds/576
03:12:26 <instant-buildbot> build #282 of win32-onCommit is complete: Success [build successful]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/win32-onCommit/builds/282
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05:28:00 <instant-buildbot> build #663 of win32-nightly-default is complete: Success [build successful]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/win32-nightly-default/builds/663
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09:08:09 <flo> hello :)
09:08:12 <flo> no mac nightly today :(
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09:15:43 <flo> aleth: is there a reason why the patch in bug 1107 removes a "border-bottom: none;" for windows?
09:15:49 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1107 nor, --, ---, aletheia2, ASSI, Contact list section header styling for Linux
09:17:54 <flo> ah, because http://lxr.instantbird.org/instantbird/source/instantbird/themes/blist.css#45 is duplicating http://lxr.instantbird.org/instantbird/source/instantbird/themes/blist.css#24
09:27:58 <instantbot> aletheia2@fastmail.fm cancelled review?(florian@instantbird .org) for attachment 1766 on bug 1530.
09:28:07 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1530 nor, --, ---, aletheia2, ASSI, Autoscroll subtly broken after moz13 update
09:28:09 <instantbot> aletheia2@fastmail.fm cancelled review?(florian@instantbird .org) for attachment 1759 on bug 1530.
09:28:10 <instantbot> aletheia2@fastmail.fm cancelled review?(florian@instantbird .org) for attachment 1759 on bug 1530.
09:28:11 <instantbot> aletheia2@fastmail.fm cancelled review?(florian@instantbird .org) for attachment 1650 on bug 1530.
09:28:47 <flo> it seems instantbot or bugzilla got confused, I don't think you cancelled the review of the same attachment twice :)
09:31:09 <aleth> It wanted to make sure ;)
09:34:36 * flo is looking forward to the BIO -> BMO merge to be able to use splitter review on ib patches :)
09:35:49 <aleth> Does BMO have working interdiff?
09:35:55 <flo> of course
09:35:59 <aleth> :)
09:36:18 <flo> the broke the way to change the context of the patch though when switching from CVS to hg
09:36:47 <flo> at the time (yes, I feel old) it was possible on the BMO diff viewer to change the number of context lines a diff had, or even to see the diff with the whole file as context
09:37:39 <flo> is bug 1594 wontfix for 1.2?
09:37:42 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1594 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Remove libpurple custom emoticons preference
09:39:08 <aleth> if nobody fixes it...
09:40:06 <aleth> Is it hard to hide? Or would it need fixing in libpurple?
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09:41:31 <flo> #prpl-msn-custom_smileys { display: none; } for accountWizard.xul and account.xul ? :-D
09:41:41 <flo> there's the same for libpurple-xmpp I think
09:41:53 <flo> that's if we want to literally hide it
09:42:25 <flo> if we want to avoid it being listed maybe we should filter the list at http://lxr.instantbird.org/instantbird/source/purple/purplexpcom/src/purpleProtocol.cpp#194
09:43:17 <flo> that would be a ugly hack too
09:43:20 <flo> or ifdef out in libpurple
09:44:28 <aleth> so, a choice of hacks? ;)
09:44:57 <aleth> wow, papersheets is sloooooooow
09:45:17 <flo> my favorite solution but obviously not for 1.2, would be to use JS-XMPP for MSN, finally support DNS SRV, and drop both the MSN and jabber libpurple prpls ;)
09:45:24 <flo> slow? how so?
09:45:29 * flo really wants that profiler
09:46:30 <aleth> I've got a #ubuntu filling up in my dev profile, to see what's triggering scroll events. Switched to Papersheets to get rid of the Bubbles scrollintoviews... and you can really see the progress bar creep...
09:47:44 <aleth> Considering the favourite solution is not that unlikely, maybe a display:none would be acceptable as a workaround ;)
09:49:18 <flo> yeah, whatever works would be ok for now.
09:49:34 <flo> but I'm not sure if matters terrible for 1.2, as that pointless checkbox has been there since 0.1...
09:50:10 <aleth> we had someone come in here recently about it, that's why it got flagged
09:50:29 <aleth> most people I am sure just ignore it ;)
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10:21:36 <clokep> flo: In my mind that bug is NOT a blocker.
10:21:51 <flo> the custom smiley one?
10:22:19 <clokep> Yes. :)
10:22:36 <clokep> It's been there forever, doesn't matter if it's in one more release IMO.
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10:22:42 <clokep> And I think your best case solution makes sense. :)
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10:27:56 <flo> https://etherpad.mozilla.org/ib-1-2-todo is starting to look a little better
10:28:20 <clokep> Yeah, I cleaned out my review list (mostly). :)
10:28:24 <Mic> What's the reason behind a invalid authzid error for a XMPP account on jabber.ord that used to work (long ago, though)?
10:28:46 <flo> do you have the full stanza visible in the error console?
10:29:46 <Mic> Does this look like the one? http://pastebin.instantbird.com/56800
10:29:58 <flo> ah, it's libpurple :(
10:30:17 <flo> but yes, it's that one
10:30:54 <flo> "<invalid-authzid/> -- The authzid provided by the initiating entity is invalid, either because it is incorrectly formatted or because the initiating entity does not have permissions to authorize that ID; sent in reply to a <response/> element or an <auth/> element with initial response data. " says http://xmpp.org/rfcs/rfc3920.html
10:32:31 <flo> not very clear to me, but I don't know the details of that part of the xmpp spec
10:32:31 <instantbot> New Core - General bug 1612 filed by clokep@gmail.com.
10:32:34 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1612 enh, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Update libpurple up to 2.10.6
10:33:11 <Mic> Nevermind, I was curious if the account still worked and apparantly it doesn't ;)
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10:38:54 <clokep> Figured we should file a bug for that one. ;)
10:41:48 <flo> I hope it doesn't change strings :(
10:42:37 <clokep> Yes, that wouldn't be good. :-/
10:43:16 <flo> have we upstreamed or backported an MSN fix?
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10:44:23 <clokep> Yes, we upstreamed the compile fix.
10:44:26 <clokep> I don't see any strings in the diffs flo.
10:45:08 <flo> hmm, we still use the old msn prpl?
10:45:27 <clokep> What? :-S
10:45:38 <clokep> When we updated to 2.10.4, the 2.10.4 MSN prpl worked, so you upgraded to it
10:48:36 <flo> I don't think we fully upgraded to it
10:48:41 <flo> we still have a large diff
10:48:46 <flo> but it's not a good time to figure that out :-S
10:49:21 <clokep> Oh. :( Hmmm...
10:49:27 <clokep> I mean it's possible there were other differences, I don't know.
10:50:11 <flo> the diff of the update looks like this: http://pastebin.instantbird.com/56807
10:50:16 * flo just had the auto-scroll bug
10:50:40 <flo> the conversation was still scrolled on but it's not a good time to figure that out :-S, and the unread ruler was invisible (just at the limit of what was scrolled in)
10:51:18 <flo> that purple/libpurple/proxy.c change doesn't look like something I would like to take a few days before a release
10:51:28 <clokep> The first two bits of that are the fixes for msn.
10:51:58 <flo> and it would be nice to know what the changes to purple/libpurple/protocols/msn/contact.c fix :)
10:52:02 <clokep> We can just not upgrade before release. I don't think we'd be missing out on anything.
10:53:48 <flo> I don't see that MSN change in the pidgin changelog
10:53:56 <flo> is their hg server useful to find a blame now? :)
10:54:52 <clokep> flo: It's http://developer.pidgin.im/ticket/15126
10:55:30 <flo> so it's http://hg.pidgin.im/pidgin/main/rev/e4d663169108
10:56:12 <flo> so should we take that patch only, and pretend we are on 2.10.5?
10:56:40 <flo> or keep the 2.10.4 version number?
10:57:34 <clokep> Keep the 2.10.4, some random Linux person will want to know why GNOME 3 proxies don't work otherwise.
10:58:24 <clokep> And then we can leave the bug open and apply the rest after release.
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11:01:23 <flo> fr has made some progress since yesterday, only 51 missing strings now :)
11:01:39 <flo> can someone ping the pl and ru people? :)
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12:10:02 <flo> aleth: so if I remember correctly our recent discussion about it, you want the patch in bug 1497 to land asap for 1.2? (and I assume you agree with the additional change I made)
12:10:12 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1497 nor, --, ---, aletheia2, ASSI, "-status offline" command line parameter doesn't stop accounts from connecting
12:12:35 <aleth> flo: The change is fine, but there is a tradeoff if we take the patch. The bug will be fixed more cleanly, but I think we will lose the notification to the user if autoconnect failed because necko is offline. Not sure how important that is.
12:13:02 <flo> I guess we will only know once user complain ;)
12:13:54 <aleth> Yeah...
12:15:13 <aleth> I guess I'm just surprised because you seem to have changed your mind on this
12:16:02 <aleth> Or did you want the patch split in two for TB reasons?
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12:17:09 <flo> I think we split the patch in 2 because we identified 2 separate issues, and at the time it was clear that one could be fixed immediately, and we weren't sure if it was ok to take the other patch without string changes
12:17:27 <flo> it's a long time ago (sorry!) so I may be misremembering though
12:17:50 <aleth> Right. (Same here)
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12:19:18 <aleth> I think we also didn't predict the current behaviour when -status offline is added, which was a behaviour change already caused by 1499.
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12:20:30 <aleth> So given we have that already...
12:21:15 <flo> autoscroll bug again !
12:21:32 <flo> aaah! I have a new idea about it
12:21:51 <flo> I think it's the scrollintoview of time bubbles that fails completely when there's an unread ruler
12:22:34 <aleth> I've got a version with dumps running in the background atm
12:22:46 <aleth> and a patch for that bug I discovered yesterday
12:22:55 <flo> the scrollintoview is done by Time Bubbles after the margin has changed. Don't we hack that margin with a !important when an unread ruler is there?
12:23:28 <aleth> Which margin?
12:24:38 <flo> maybe a line height instead of a margin. I don't know. Whatever handleLastMessage is doing in Footer.html before calling scrollIntoView
12:25:13 <aleth> I don't understand the intersection with the unread ruler
12:25:34 <flo> not sure either
12:25:40 <flo> but the scrollintoview calls of time bubbles seem to fail
12:25:49 <flo> as the last message I wrote is still at the bottom of the view
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12:55:36 <flo> aleth: if we still believe bubble's scrollintoview call is faulty, we could make it call http://lxr.instantbird.org/instantbird/source/chat/content/convbrowser.xml#229
12:57:17 <aleth> flo: Yes, that might be the way to go. I've already discovered another source of scroll events though: the progess bar showing up.
12:57:24 * aleth is waiting for more data
12:57:45 <flo> uh, stupid progress bar :(
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13:18:02 <flo> I have verified that bug 1210 can reliably be reproduced on my ib debug build, and WFM in my debug tb build
13:18:05 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1210 nor, --, 1.2, florian, REOP, Status stuck on away/unavailable
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13:39:46 <flo> bah, I think the bug exists in Tb too
13:40:06 <flo> it's just hidden by the fact that Tb registers several idle listeners that don't have the same idle time.
13:43:24 * flo wonders if clokep_work can look at https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=779836 and see what we broke there
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13:49:16 <flo> Firefox's GC took 69s!
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13:57:18 * flo has a trival fix for bug 1210
13:57:21 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1210 nor, --, 1.2, florian, REOP, Status stuck on away/unavailable
13:58:18 <aleth> :)
13:58:33 <flo> but I still need to find who to blame for that bug, to find who should review the fix
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14:00:46 <flo> ok, very obviously https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=720493
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14:06:51 <flo> I'm afraid they'll ask me to write some unit test, which could be tricky for something dealing with idle time
14:07:39 <instantbot> aletheia2@fastmail.fm requested review from florian@instantbird .org for attachment 1773 on bug 1611.
14:07:42 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1611 nor, --, ---, aletheia2, NEW, Unread ruler movement can cause spurious Bubbles gap time text
14:08:16 <aleth> ^^ looks like a big change, but isn't (just a shift in indent)
14:09:00 <flo> I was about to click that link but no, let me file a bug and attach a patch for the idle service first
14:10:27 <aleth> So it wasn't OSX-specific after all?
14:10:32 <flo> not at all
14:10:45 <flo> it's specific to having only one idle listener registered by the application
14:10:47 <flo> Tb has 3
14:10:56 <flo> and I don't know how many Firefox has, but likely more
14:17:48 <instantbot> aletheia2@fastmail.fm cancelled review?(florian@instantbird .org) for attachment 1773 on bug 1611.
14:17:49 <instantbot> aletheia2@fastmail.fm requested review from florian@instantbird .org for attachment 1774 on bug 1611.
14:17:53 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1611 nor, --, ---, aletheia2, NEW, Unread ruler movement can cause spurious Bubbles gap time text
14:18:46 <clokep_work> Good thing fl o didn't look at that yet. ;)
14:18:59 <aleth> Not really ;) He'll probably find more nits...
14:19:38 <aleth> So, how would you get the convbrowser from message style JS? Is that even allowed?
14:21:48 <flo> that's not allowed
14:22:07 <flo> but the opposite (convbrowser exposing some method to its contentWindow) may work
14:22:18 <aleth> Hmm, how is that done?
14:22:47 <flo> we do something similar for http://lxr.instantbird.org/instantbird/source/chat/modules/imThemes.jsm#607
14:22:52 <aleth> (There are alternatives I can think of, but they are ugly)
14:23:12 <flo> I hope https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=779843 makes sense
14:23:38 <flo> if we don't get quick feedback, how do you all feel about me including that patch in our set of mozilla patches and mark the bio bug as FIXED for 1.2?
14:24:13 <flo> aleth: generally |browser.contentWindow| is the same object as the |window| object that Footer.html sees.
14:25:03 <flo> so if you do from the convbrowser code |this.contentWindow.foobar = function() {alert("hey!");};| a message theme would be able to do |foobar();|
14:25:05 <flo> that's the theory
14:25:21 <flo> you may have some issues with security policies and xpconnect wrappers.
14:25:40 <aleth> Yeah... still beats communicating via attributes though.
14:46:46 <clokep_work> flo: That description makes sense.
14:46:52 <clokep_work> I feel OK about adding it to our set of patches.
14:47:18 <flo> clokep_work: cool :)
14:48:41 <flo> I wonder how fast bbondy is with review requests, but my patch is the only one in his review queue :).
14:54:26 <clokep_work> Hopefully fast. ;)
14:54:37 <clokep_work> We'd still need to apply it anyway though since it won't be backported to 13, right?
14:56:50 * clokep_work is confused by these bubbles issues...
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15:08:13 <clokep_work> flo: Apparently he's fast. ;)
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15:16:40 <instantbot> New Core - Twitter bug 1613 filed by jahkae@gmail.com.
15:16:42 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1613 nor, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, Twitter feed stops
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15:42:09 <clokep_work> Good morning wnayes. :)
15:43:18 <wnayes> clokep_work: Good morning, taking a look at that logger patch now.
15:43:40 <clokep_work> Thanks! I figured you (now) know that code fairly well.
15:43:53 <clokep_work> (Plus I have an ulterior motive of having you review things as I think it's good experience. :-D)
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15:47:15 <deomega1> good day
15:48:26 <deomega1> hmm, sorry was trying out tab thingie
15:48:46 <deomega1> anyway,  clokep_work.. I am having the event as we speak
15:53:10 <clokep_work> flo: Looks like you got your r+. :)
15:53:27 <clokep_work> deomega1: I'm not really sure what to try. It sounds like either Twitter or us is killing the connection at some point.
15:54:21 <deomega1> clokep_work: OK, thank you
15:56:21 <clokep_work> It's possible flo will have an idea, but I don't know for sure.
15:56:34 <clokep_work> This just started happening though? If so, it implies a server issue...
16:01:51 <flo> https://twitter.com/#!/search/source%3AInstantbird
16:03:07 <clokep_work> ?
16:03:43 <aleth> Huh, I didn't know you could do that...
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16:22:02 * wnayes is not sure if a failure to create a file COM0 is standard in Windows or not, but it fails for me.
16:22:25 <flo> wnayes: isn't that the point of that bug?
16:22:41 <wnayes> The current patch checks COM1-9
16:22:58 <flo> ah
16:24:50 <wnayes> I really prefer the regex solution over the array too, with catching 0's it would just be /^(CON|PRN|AUX|NUL|COM\d|LPT\d)$/
16:25:11 <wnayes> But I'm not sure if that warrants r-...
16:30:31 <flo> clokep_work: so about the issue deomega reported. We do have some error check-in for when the stream connection is closed. We disconnect and reconnect the account. http://lxr.instantbird.org/instantbird/source/chat/protocols/twitter/twitter.js#705
16:31:12 <flo> I know the twitter servers send some keep alive data. Maybe we could add a timer and kill the connection is nothing has been received for a few minutes? Not sure I would really like that :-S
16:34:14 <clokep_work> flo: That does seem like the only solution I can think of. :-/
16:34:23 <clokep_work> (Unless XmlHTTPRequest has a keep alive time?0
16:34:48 <clokep_work> wnayes: Those sounds like fine review comments (and it seems all 3 reviewers prefer a regex, so r- is fine).
16:36:05 <flo> wnayes: generally I r- even for a detail when I know reading that detail over and over again will annoy me each time I see it until I patch something close enough in the file that I can pretend it's a good opportunity to rewrite it. ;)
16:36:27 <flo> but I sometimes make exceptions to that rule when it's the first patch of someone :-].
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17:00:08 <instantbot> wnayes@gmail.com denied review for attachment 1772 on bug 1108.
17:00:11 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1108 min, --, ---, bugi, ASSI, Names of folder and files are not checked against forbidden names.
17:03:14 <clokep_work> wnayes: Perfect. :)
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17:08:50 <flo> ok, so apparently I can just check-in that idleservice patch :)
17:10:26 <flo> oh, my last mozilla-inbound push was a long while ago: "Thu Dec 15 17:08:49 2011"
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17:26:11 <flo> anybody taking care of "Update the credits/thanks section"?
17:28:11 <instantbot> florian@instantbird.org granted review for attachment 1765 on bug 1497.
17:28:14 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1497 nor, --, ---, aletheia2, ASSI, "-status offline" command line parameter doesn't stop accounts from connecting
17:31:10 <flo> added 18582 changesets with 115697 changes to 34995 files
17:31:10 <flo> when pulling updates for my moz-inbound clone
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17:34:11 <clokep_work> flo: I can update that stuff.
17:34:25 <flo> great, thanks :)
17:34:36 <clokep_work> Sounds like you pulled the MPL 1.1 --> MPL 2.0 changes.
17:34:40 <flo> I would like to trim the 1.2 wanted/blocking list down to almost nothing asap
17:34:51 <flo> oh, yes, likely :)
17:34:56 <clokep_work> I was about to add another to it. ;)
17:35:01 <flo> hg up took 4 minutes
17:35:07 <flo> which one?
17:35:22 <clokep_work> Updating the credits list.
17:35:31 <flo> it's already in the etherpad list ;)
17:35:44 <clokep_work> I was going to file a bug. :)
17:35:54 <flo> sure, please do
17:36:06 <flo> but it doesn't add to the list of things I am/we are tracking ;)
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17:39:31 <clokep_work> You have a link to that etherpad? :-D
17:40:13 <flo> so, checking in to mozilla-inbound freezes Instantbird!
17:40:21 <flo> firebot is now super super fast at finding check-ins
17:40:37 <flo> and pinged me in #developers, which has 100+ if not 1000+ unread messages to display ;)
17:40:44 <flo> clokep_work: https://etherpad.mozilla.org/ib-1-2-todo
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17:44:14 <flo> do you all think we should nominate that idle service regression for aurora/beta? :)
17:45:12 <clokep_work> flo: It won't affect any Mozilla apps so I think they'd be unlikely to want it.
17:45:15 <clokep_work> But I think we should. ;)
17:45:32 <flo> what about add-on authors? ;)
17:49:12 <instantbot> New Instantbird (UI) bug 1614 filed by clokep@gmail.com.
17:49:15 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1614 tri, --, ---, clokep, ASSI, Update the credits for Instantbird 1.2
17:50:44 <flo> ok, we will see (I set the tracking and approval ? flags)
18:07:06 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/cdc65c66b724 - aleth - Bug 1107 - Contact list section header styling for Linux, r=clokep.
18:07:07 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/1b767d16b3a9 - aleth - Bug 1497 - When starting with necko offline, connect accounts as soon as the network is back. Also avoid connecting accounts when starting with "-status offline" on the command
18:07:08 <instantbot> line, r=fqueze.
18:07:09 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/82814a2774e6 - Florian Quèze - Take an MSN crash fix that is part of libpurple 2.10.5's changes.
18:07:10 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/d29f478bc5b0 - aleth - Bug 1471 - Log viewer content is missing context menu, r=clokep.
18:07:11 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/1566264293c7 - Florian Quèze - Bug 1210 - Status stuck on away/unavailable, add my nsIdleService fix from Bmo 779843.
18:09:30 <clokep_work> :) I think we're getting there.
18:09:43 <flo> bah, mid-airing with myself :-/
18:09:48 <instantbot> florian@instantbird.org set the Resolution field on bug 1497 to FIXED.
18:09:52 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1497 nor, --, 1.2, aletheia2, RESO FIXED, When starting with necko offline, connect accounts as soon as the network is back. Also avoid connec
18:10:17 <aleth> Yay, the list is shrinking!
18:10:28 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com set the Resolution field on bug 1107 to FIXED.
18:10:35 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1107 nor, --, 1.2, aletheia2, RESO FIXED, Contact list section header styling for Linux
18:11:19 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com set the Resolution field on bug 1471 to FIXED.
18:11:21 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1471 min, --, 1.2, aletheia2, RESO FIXED, Log viewer content is missing context menu
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18:11:40 <instantbot> florian@instantbird.org set the Resolution field on bug 1210 to FIXED.
18:11:44 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1210 nor, --, 1.2, florian, RESO FIXED, Status stuck on away/unavailable
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18:12:39 <clokep_work> aleth: Any chance you can do https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1497#c12? You seem to be in the best position to answer those questions. :)
18:12:43 <instantbot> Bug 1497 nor, --, 1.2, aletheia2, RESO FIXED, When starting with necko offline, connect accounts as soon as the network is back. Also avoid connec
18:13:58 <flo> I don't think I'm interested in bug 1096 for 1.2
18:14:01 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1096 nor, --, ---, aletheia2, ASSI, Add "Visible tags..." entry to contacts listbox background context menu too
18:14:10 <flo> I should really make a serious effort to cleanup my review queue after the release
18:14:51 <aleth> You haven't been interested in that bug for months ;)
18:14:57 <flo> clokep_work: seems we mid-aired too ;)
18:15:17 <clokep_work> Oops? :P
18:15:37 <flo> aleth: yeah... it feels like "not a real issue really annoying anybody + patch likely to cause regressions that I would then really have to fix"
18:15:55 <flo> so if I take it at the beginning of a cycle, hopefully someone else will fix the regressions :)
18:16:06 <aleth> Not that I think it is the most urgent... but it was in response to user-reported problems at the time.
18:16:26 <flo> right. I know the intention is good :).
18:16:43 <flo> users also reported that file transfer doesn't work ;).
18:16:53 <aleth> That's not quite the same thing :P
18:17:50 <aleth> I don't mind if it's not in 1.2, but I do think one shouldn't underestimate UI papercuts in how they cumulatively matter.
18:18:11 <aleth> Even if they aren't the most fun to fix or review...
18:18:14 <flo> yeah...
18:18:23 <flo> my thinking about it is that our tag UI completely sucks
18:18:41 <flo> and the "other contacts" magic tag is half backed, and still has several bugs
18:18:59 <clokep_work> Yeah...the tags stuff is annoying. :(
18:19:07 <flo> not very motivating
18:19:19 <clokep_work> We got it good enough where you deal w/ it only when setting up once and then forget that it sucks.
18:19:25 <flo> blist management in general is not very motivating
18:19:54 <aleth> yeah... that's the problem, realistically when is that going to be changed
18:19:58 <flo> clokep_work: I never bothered with setting it up and just decided to hide all the tags :-(
18:20:48 <flo> aleth: when someone is motivated enough to design a good UI/UX and go ahead and implement it
18:20:51 <clokep_work> flo: Well that's one way to do it.
18:24:39 <aleth> I'm just not entirely sure why 1096 didn't move further after clokep r+'d it
18:25:35 <aleth> Probably some holidays got in the way...
18:25:45 <clokep_work> So anyone have ideas for add-ons besides the ones listed in the bug?
18:25:58 <flo> aleth: because it was obviously broken and I pointed it out before the check-in, causing you to attach another updated patch  ;)
18:26:13 <aleth> That was a while ago ;)
18:26:41 <flo> aleth: "You haven't been interested in that bug for months ;)" you had the answer ;)
18:27:35 <flo> so I still have 6 patches to do, and 4 difficult reviews? :-/
18:30:56 <flo> aleth: bug 930 is even more in a situation of lacking interest from me :-/.
18:30:59 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=930 nor, --, ---, mmkmou, ASSI, Add a link to "FAQ" on "help" menu item
18:33:01 <flo> anyway, time to go home. Not sure if I'll try the moz14 update or the other patches this evening.
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19:24:25 <clokep_work> wnayes: Are you adding the / and / at the beginning end of a regexp and then using new RegExp on it?
19:24:31 <clokep_work> I don't think you need those // then.
19:25:32 <clokep_work> And Instantbird used to have the same logs as Pidgin. ;)
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19:28:26 <flo> boo :( my instantbird has just crashed
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19:31:39 <wnayes> clokep_work: I removed the /s in the last commit :)
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19:33:16 <clokep_work> Excellent. :)
19:34:46 <flo> attempting to apply the current set of patches against moz14: http://pastebin.instantbird.com/57046
19:35:57 <clokep_work> Ouch.
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19:37:31 <flo> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=756277 is fixed for 14, so let's remove the patch :)
19:38:38 <clokep_work> wnayes: I'll check out the date parsing stuff though later tonight hopefully (well maybe..supposed to go to a BBQ after Frisbee...)
19:39:36 <wnayes> OK, hopefully it makes some sense. :)
19:43:14 <instantbot> aletheia2@fastmail.fm requested review from florian@instantbird .org for attachment 1775 on bug 1530.
19:43:17 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1530 nor, --, ---, aletheia2, ASSI, Autoscroll subtly broken after moz13 update
19:45:25 <clokep_work> I'm sure it makes sense, just might be some slicker ways to do stuff.
19:47:44 <wnayes> Yeah, it seemed like a lot of code for what needed to be done. Keeping track of what would be in the .match() resulting array was cumbersome (and not completely accurate yet I don't think)
19:47:59 <clokep_work> Are there tests? ;)
19:49:51 <wnayes> There definitely should be, right now I'm assuming it will need to be rewritten anyways :-/
19:50:41 <wnayes> Should there be several files with tests for each importer, or one large test file for each?
19:52:18 <clokep_work> If there's logical things to split it up to multiple files that's fine IMO.
20:06:56 <flo> wnayes: what will need to be rewritten?
20:07:24 <wnayes> flo: My code for parsing the mIRC message timestamps.
20:07:44 <wnayes> Assuming there is probably a better way to go about it.
20:12:35 <wnayes> I'm shooting for the August 13 "suggested" end date to have mIRC, Pidgin, and XChat log support and improved UI. Then there will be a week left to clean up some parts and write some tests.
20:16:24 <flo> wnayes: I'll be in vacations from August 11 to 19, and probably offline most of that time.
20:16:53 <flo> when is the real end date for summer of code?
20:17:51 <wnayes> flo: Code writing should be done on August 20, final evaluations are wanted by the 24th.
20:20:00 <flo> aleth++ for debugging that auto-scroll mess :)
20:20:51 <flo> that new patch looks "r+ unless I find something wrong while testing", the previous ones looked "r- as soon as I can come up with an actionable explanation of why" ;)
20:21:52 <flo> http://pastebin.instantbird.com/57067
20:38:28 <clokep_work> That's bad, I assume?
20:40:38 <flo> yeah, not compiling isn't great
20:42:11 <flo> the patch in https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=750620 not fixing it is even worse ;)
20:42:33 <flo> it adds __powerpc__ and on Mac PPC I only have __ppc__ defined
20:44:49 * flo looks forward to dropping PPC Macs
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20:49:21 <flo> ah, another failure :-/
20:50:46 <flo> bah, it's my mozconfig that doesn't have --disable-sps
21:02:06 <flo> uh, it seems disable-sps doesn't exist any more :-/
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21:23:38 <flo> that's https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=735871
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22:54:49 <flo> ah, the ppc build is finished! :)
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23:18:43 <aleth> sounds like moz14 is almost ready :)
23:20:02 <flo> aleth: want to try it? ;)
23:20:10 <flo> do you have a faster build machine than my macbook? :)
23:20:18 <aleth> no... :(
23:20:42 <aleth> Why does ppc build faster than your osx version?
23:21:23 <aleth> Ah, you had to do something about -disable-sps
23:21:41 <flo> when I do a mac universal build, it first does a ppc build, then an i386 build, then it merges the two.
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23:22:40 <flo> each of the first 2 builds take 90minutes on my machine
23:22:52 <flo> then the merge is faster, but still takes a while
23:23:38 <aleth> Did you ever hear back about those mac minis you were hoping for as build slaves?
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23:24:25 <flo> no
23:24:49 <aleth> Oh well, it did sound too good to be true...
23:25:06 <flo> and I just heard about the brand new macbook pro retina I should have received. Apparently it may have been given to some random new employee coming to the office the day it was delivered.
23:25:41 <aleth> I hope they've got some more ordered then :)
23:26:03 <aleth> Retina should be amazing...
23:27:55 <aleth> I wonder what IB looks like at that resolution (probably runs into some of those em/pt css issues...)
23:28:13 <flo> that would be a good opportunity to fix them
23:28:34 <aleth> Definitely motivating if you actually can see the result ;)
23:32:21 <flo> uh, why is "irc: Unhandled IRC message: :testib MODE testib :+i" dumped to my terminal :-S. It's not a debug build!
23:33:06 <aleth> some about:config flag?
23:33:10 <flo> Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; PPC Mac OS X 10.5; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120802 Instantbird/1.2a1pre
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23:33:19 <flo> the ppc build seems to work at least
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23:33:48 <flo> should I just push the moz14 update and hope it will work?
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23:35:02 <aleth> I suppose it's one way to test it...
23:35:18 <aleth> Anything potentially scary in moz14?
23:36:10 <flo> the scary thing is that we are updating that close to a release
23:36:22 <flo> so any additional day of testing on nightlies may help
23:36:23 <aleth> yes...
23:36:38 <flo> it's the reason why I'm considering pushing it even though I haven't seen a full build
23:37:36 <aleth> What's the worst that can happen? We use yesterdays nightlies for another day
23:38:36 <instant-buildbot> build #570 of macosx-nightly-default is complete: Exception [exception interrupted]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/macosx-nightly-default/builds/570
23:38:53 <instant-buildbot> build #263 of macosx-onCommit is complete: Exception [exception interrupted]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/macosx-onCommit/builds/263  blamelist: aleth <aletheia2@fastmail.fm>, Florian Qu?ze <florian@instantbird.org>
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23:46:51 <instant-buildbot> build #295 of linux-onCommit is complete: Exception [exception interrupted]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/linux-onCommit/builds/295  blamelist: aleth <aletheia2@fastmail.fm>, Florian Qu?ze <florian@instantbird.org>
23:47:29 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/13131d01e2e6 - Florian Quèze - Bug 1487 - Update to Mozilla 14.
23:47:33 <instant-buildbot> build #264 of macosx-onCommit is complete: Exception [exception interrupted]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/macosx-onCommit/builds/264  blamelist: Florian Qu?ze <florian@instantbird.org>
23:48:36 <instant-buildbot> build #296 of linux-onCommit is complete: Failure [failed compile]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/linux-onCommit/builds/296  blamelist: Florian Qu?ze <florian@instantbird.org>
23:49:25 <flo> heh, that was fast! http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/linux-onCommit/builds/296/steps/compile/logs/stdio
23:49:35 <aleth> oops
23:52:51 <flo> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=743441
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23:57:17 <instant-buildbot> build #265 of macosx-onCommit is complete: Exception [exception interrupted]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/macosx-onCommit/builds/265  blamelist: Florian Qu?ze <florian@instantbird.org>
23:57:28 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/83739a138f9d - Florian Quèze - Port |Bug 716354 - freetype2 detection doesn't consider cross-compiling| (c-c bug 743441).
23:57:44 <aleth> Good, it's been encountered before :)
23:58:14 <flo> this time it at least passed configure