#instantbird log on 07 02 2012

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01:12:23 <clokep> aleth: I'm not going to get to your review tonight (need to get up in like 6 hours and drive for 5 hours). Maybe this week, if not...I'm sorry...it'll be next week.
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06:06:24 <instant-buildbot> build #537 of macosx-nightly-default is complete: Success [build successful]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/macosx-nightly-default/builds/537
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06:57:06 <FeuerFliege> Good Morning!
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07:20:13 <FeuerFliege> /time
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08:15:35 <FeuerFliege> buildbot-l10n refuses to cooperate :( 
08:16:04 <FeuerFliege> it’s offline for about 3 days now.
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08:51:49 <aleth> clokep: don't worry about reviews, have a great holiday :D
08:52:44 <aleth> FeuerFliege: You should probably ping Even
08:52:56 <aleth> (or Even1 ;) )
08:54:08 <FeuerFliege> aleth: isn’t he on vacation, too?
08:54:19 <aleth> I don't know :-S
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09:57:24 <Mic> Should we put the users displayname into the titlebar of the contact window?
09:57:39 <Mic> "Instantbird" -> "Benedikt - Instantbird".
09:59:21 <Mic> Would look more personal imo and would help me to tell my instances apart ;)
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10:17:25 <Mic> aleth: I fixed the blurred Smile!-icon in the statusbar for Windows, could you check if that makes a difference on Linux?
10:18:02 <Mic> (it's a stupic change (added align and pack-attributes to the container-hbox) but maybe that helps?
10:18:46 <Mic> The new version is on AIO by the way.
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10:39:29 <aleth> Mic: It fixes the problem :)
10:39:41 <aleth> But: it makes the statusbar really bulky https://minus.com/mzsWmJ33L/
10:40:08 <aleth> I'm not sure that is ideal.
10:41:15 <aleth> Is it just from the height of the icon? If you aren't using the one from the current theme anyway, maybe make a smaller one?
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10:46:13 <aleth> Actually, scratch that.
10:46:26 <aleth> The status bar just is that ugly. https://minus.com/mI8XbS7ug/
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10:50:55 <aleth> So your add-on is fine :)
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10:54:28 <clokep_wp7> FeuerFliege the computer that runs the l10n buildbot, win32 and Linux nightlies is offline. :-(
10:55:12 <clokep_wp7> Has been for a few days, yes. Once Even and flo are back I'm sure they'll turn it back on. :-)
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13:49:49 <Mic> Even1: would be great if you could review my extensions in AIO; some are sitting there for a while already. Thanks in advance!
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14:24:30 <instantbot> benediktp@ymail.com granted review for attachment 1718 on bug 483.
14:24:33 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=483 min, --, ---, bugi, ASSI, Instantbird default theme has no preview image
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17:28:00 <igorko> hi y0
17:28:12 <igorko> how much time do we have for translating?
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18:48:18 <Mic> igorko: I can't find it on the logs but I think flo away until at least beginning of next week
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19:00:29 <Mic> igorko: I fixed the issue with the distorted icons in the smiley-panel. I only saw that review comment by accident (we don't get emails for those), it would be more reliable to message me directly (here, email, ...).
19:00:40 <Mic> Thanks for the report :)
19:00:45 <igorko> yw
19:01:43 <Mic> The panels are huge for these themes, maybe I'll scale the icons down in a later version
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19:07:04 <Mic> bye
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19:48:28 <igorko> how rapidly is updated http://hg.instantbird.org/l10n/locales-status.html ?
19:49:23 <aleth> Feuerfliege would know...
19:49:39 <aleth> FeuerFliege ^^
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19:51:56 <FeuerFliege> igorko: I don’t know. I never had to wait more than a couple of minutes … so I would say at _least_ every 30min :) 
19:52:10 <FeuerFliege> igorko: which locales do you translate
19:52:11 <FeuerFliege> ?
19:52:18 <igorko> uk
19:52:30 <igorko> strange thing: look at  http://hg.instantbird.org/l10n/locales-status.html
19:52:38 <igorko> http://hg.instantbird.org/l10n/locales-status.html#uk
19:53:12 <igorko> well, no strange thing anymore :)
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19:57:32 <FeuerFliege> igorko: give it some more minutes. 18 minutes since commit.
19:57:53 <igorko> already gave ;)
20:10:46 <igorko> FeuerFliege: google+ (in gmailinterface) proposes me to add you to my circles. How the f**k he knows :)
20:11:14 <igorko> do we have l10n group?
20:11:22 <FeuerFliege> igorko: google knows everything :) 
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20:11:39 <igorko> seems so :)
20:12:01 <FeuerFliege> https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!forum/instantbird-l10n
20:12:27 <igorko> ah damn. That YOU wrote Instantbird 1.2 string freeze email. Stupid me
20:14:23 <FeuerFliege> Yes, that was me :)
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20:23:51 <igorko> lol status page is generated NOW
20:24:40 <Mic> FeuerFliege: there's no way to tell which changeset the status of this page is based on, is it?
20:25:17 <igorko> missing 51 strings + 26 in missing files Not much now
20:25:22 <FeuerFliege> no it is not possible. 
20:26:17 <Mic> Would it be useful? Should we file a bug about adding the changeset to the information about each locale?
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21:24:13 <instantbot> aletheia2@fastmail.fm cleared the Resolution 'WORKSFORME' from bug 1143.
21:24:15 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1143 nor, --, ---, nobody, REOP, New participants not correctly added to collapsed participant list
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23:05:39 <DGMurdockIII> hey
23:05:46 <DGMurdockIII> the bug is bac
23:06:25 <DGMurdockIII> one of my google talk buddies shold have loged off but it shows hes still online
23:06:32 <DGMurdockIII> and when i send him a message
23:06:53 <DGMurdockIII> it the message just bounces back to me repting what im saying
23:07:11 <DGMurdockIII> 7:02:22 PM - DGMurdockIII: l
23:07:14 <DGMurdockIII> 7:02:23 PM - Björn Holine: l
23:07:15 <DGMurdockIII> like that
23:07:24 <aleth> DGMurdockIII: Can you leave a comment in the bug on bugzilla so it doesn't get lost by the time flo gets back?
23:07:48 <DGMurdockIII> think i allread have
23:07:53 <aleth> OK, thanks.
23:08:14 <DGMurdockIII> but let me check
23:08:18 <aleth> So that bug was fixed, and now it still happens? :(
23:08:37 <DGMurdockIII> no i dont think it was ever fixed
23:08:54 <DGMurdockIII> it dosent happed that ofter but i now it a bug
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23:14:23 <DGMurdockIII> https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1401
23:14:26 <instantbot> Bug 1401 nor, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, Not all messages being delivered to "invisible" contacts
23:14:27 <DGMurdockIII> this good enough
23:16:00 <aleth> Thanks for checking!
23:16:21 <DGMurdockIII> because the offline messaging dosent work for google talk on instant at least with my friend using pidgin so i thnk there could be some coloration to that
23:16:42 <aleth> So this is a chat partner who appears offline but actually isn't?
23:17:16 <aleth> Or someone who is offline but appears as online?
23:18:17 <aleth> I think you mean the second, right?
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23:25:08 <aleth> OK, I think I'll move this to a separate bug.
23:28:59 <instantbot> New Core - XMPP bug 1568 filed by aletheia2@fastmail.fm.
23:29:02 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1568 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Gtalk buddies sometimes appear online when they are actually offline
23:35:30 <DGMurdockIII> aleth: no it a google talk chat partner that apars online but is really offline
23:35:52 <aleth> So the bug I just filed is correct? ;)
23:35:56 <DGMurdockIII> aleth: and when i send a message i just ping it back
23:36:33 <DGMurdockIII> yes
23:36:38 <aleth> Good :)
23:36:51 <DGMurdockIII> hope you can find the solution
23:36:56 <aleth> Hopefully someone who knows the XMPP code can fix it soon :)
23:37:32 <aleth> It may be down to the google servers sometimes not letting us know about the buddy going offline of course.
23:37:54 <DGMurdockIII> im not sure if it has to do with the offline messaging but i now it dose not work i tryed to send him some stuff on instantbird he has never recived it
23:38:03 <DGMurdockIII> ok
23:38:16 <aleth> I don't know if gtalk supports offline messaging.
23:38:22 <DGMurdockIII> itit dose
23:38:26 <DGMurdockIII> it
23:38:31 <aleth> XMPP does, but google might not.
23:38:46 <aleth> I don't know much about gtalk unfortunately...
23:39:00 <DGMurdockIII> http://googletalk.blogspot.com/2006/11/offline-messages.html
23:40:25 <DGMurdockIII> that explain how offline messages work
23:40:35 <aleth> I added it to the bug just in case.
23:41:09 <aleth> it does say "Your Google Talk account needs to have a Gmail inbox with chat history enabled in order to receive offline messages, so make sure to turn it on now!" -- are you sure your buddy has this turned on?
23:43:44 <DGMurdockIII> not sure but i'll ask 
23:43:54 <DGMurdockIII> next tim i talk to him
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23:44:09 <aleth> That would be useful to know.
23:44:47 <DGMurdockIII> now that i see that how they work i really dont this this is a offline messaging bug unless it how it impmented in instantbird
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