#instantbird log on 05 20 2012

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02:51:48 <instant-buildbot> build #502 of linux-nightly-default is complete: Success [build successful]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/linux-nightly-default/builds/502
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03:26:24 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com granted feedback for attachment 1488 on bug 1108.
03:26:26 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1108 min, --, ---, bugi, ASSI, Names of folder and files are not checked against forbidden names.
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04:27:23 <instant-buildbot> build #595 of win32-nightly-default is complete: Success [build successful]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/win32-nightly-default/builds/595
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12:45:24 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com denied review for attachment 1489 on bug 1446.
12:45:26 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1446 nor, --, ---, aletheia2, ASSI, Reset nick modified due to nick collision when disconnecting the account
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14:35:45 <Optimizer> why is the dashboard of my add-on saying 0 total downloads, when I know that atleast one of you installed it
14:36:31 <clokep> I don't know.
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14:57:18 * flo is wondering where can be the last read message of this conversation
14:57:25 <flo> (hello, by the way)
15:00:19 <flo> congrats to clokep for http://log.bezut.info/instantbird/yesterday#m120 \o/
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15:00:54 <clokep> flo: Congrats for saying no? :P
15:01:01 <Mic|web> Optimizer: the stats are not updated instantly
15:01:16 <Optimizer> on a daily basis ?
15:01:56 <Optimizer> the download which I am talking about happened 2 days ago
15:02:01 <Mic|web> Yes, but the weekly stats are updated between .. saturday and sunday iirc?
15:02:27 <Mic|web> gtg again, have a nice weekend
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15:04:36 <flo> Optimizer: "why is the dashboard of my add-on saying 0 total downloads, when I know that atleast one of you installed it" I think it's updated weekly.
15:04:46 <flo> (or daily)
15:04:53 <Optimizer> must be weekly
15:05:11 <flo> clokep: yes, saying no is harder than saying yes / not replying clearly.
15:05:37 <flo> and I'm glad we (as a team) become able to say no to requests for slipping more changes in a release that's already way overdue
15:06:13 <clokep> Yeah, I mean everything in Bugzilla is of course wanted. :)
15:06:22 <flo> not really :)
15:06:28 <clokep> Theoretically. ;
15:07:07 <flo> there are lots of things that I wouldn't want, but I understand there's a real frustration behind the request, and taking the time to file half a dozen bugs that would be really wanted so that I can close the not-really-wanted request doesn't feel worth it
15:07:40 * flo feels like he is on another timezone today
15:07:57 * Optimizer *is* in another timezone
15:08:11 <clokep> Sleep in late today?
15:08:47 <flo> I left the wedding party where I was invited yesterday at around 5am, when I was too tired to stay, and I've slept after that; and now I just spent ~an hour rating the ~1300 photos I took yesterday
15:09:09 <Optimizer> D
15:10:01 <clokep> Wow.
15:10:08 <flo> Mic: I suspect the issue you had with your add-on is a race condition caused by the undefined order in which add-ons are installed/initialized 
15:10:55 <flo> Mic: so adding a notification when the core is initialized, and a Services.core.initialized boolean attribute (as you requested) seems OK
15:11:20 <flo> your maybe you can just add an executeSoon call in your add-on? (crappy workaround, but less work :-D)
15:11:25 <flo> s/your/or/
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15:14:06 <flo> (just in case that wasn't obvious, the photos aren't really for my personal collection, they asked me to do photos of the wedding ;))
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15:16:26 <clokep> Ah, nice. :) Hopefully they came out good. ;)
15:18:10 <flo> I took them without flash (because I generally dislike photos taken with a flash) so it was quite difficult for indoor photos in the middle of the night ;)
15:18:48 <flo> but my father's equipment (which I borrow when I know I'll do lots of photos ;)) is quite good so the result is quite OK :)
15:27:27 <clokep> ) Hope you got to enjoy the party too? :P
15:30:45 <flo> yes, although I'm not a big fan of large parties.
15:30:58 <flo> I saw lots of people I hadn't seen during the last 15 years or so
15:38:39 <clokep> Great! :)
15:38:56 <clokep> Btw I'd like if we could get that IRC fix checked in today (the one with the :s) if possible. :)
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15:52:07 <flo> with the :S?
15:53:57 <clokep> With the colons.
15:54:07 <clokep> I forgot that : s is a smiley. :)
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16:13:15 <instantbot> New Instantbird (UI) bug 1448 filed by aletheia2@fastmail.fm.
16:13:17 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1448 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Handle bad log files properly
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17:44:53 <instantbot> aletheia2@fastmail.fm set the Resolution field on bug 1301 to INVALID.
17:44:56 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1301 tri, --, ---, nobody, RESO INVALID, Reply to nick should only happen on double-clicking a nick
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17:46:15 <instantbot> aletheia2@fastmail.fm requested review from clokep@gmail.com for attachment 1491 on bug 1446.
17:46:18 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1446 nor, --, ---, aletheia2, ASSI, Reset nick modified due to nick collision when disconnecting the account
17:50:33 <Mic|web> About taking images in difficult conditions: I saw a demo (a video taken at Siggraph iirc) of an experimental de-blur feature by Adobe. They calculcated the point-spread function from the blurred image and deconvoluted the image so it came out clear.
17:51:01 <Mic|web> The results were amazing.
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17:53:43 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/ee30357e62a1 - Patrick Cloke - Bug 1442 - IRC messages that need a : for the last parameter broken, r=aleth.
17:53:45 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/33cc73c688a3 - aleth - Bug 1433 - Switching status from OFFLINE to UNAVAILABLE actually sets status to AVAILABLE, r=clokep.
17:58:02 <instantbot> New Core - General bug 1449 filed by benediktp@ymail.com.
17:58:06 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1449 enh, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Make initialization state of Core available and send notification when initialization finishes.
17:58:53 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com set the Resolution field on bug 1442 to FIXED.
17:58:55 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1442 blo, --, 1.2, clokep, RESO FIXED, IRC messages that need a : for the last parameter broken
17:59:04 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com set the Resolution field on bug 1433 to FIXED.
17:59:10 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1433 nor, --, 1.2, aletheia2, RESO FIXED, Switching status from OFFLINE to UNAVAILABLE actually sets status to AVAILABLE
18:07:11 <flo> Mic|web: but that's only for images that are blurred because the focus wasn't right, isn't it?
18:07:45 <Mic|web> The for images where the camera was moved during the exposure
18:08:16 <Mic|web> *It was
18:10:09 <flo> clokep: severity: blocker means "blocks all developments" (it's for things like "the code doesn't compile" or "the application crashes at startup for everybody")
18:10:47 <flo> Mic|web: what if both the camera and the people in the picture move? ;)
18:11:01 <clokep> flo: Did I hit blocker? I meant major. :(
18:11:24 <flo> for motions of the camera, the stabilizers of the lenses tend to be quite good (of course, they can't help after some point...)
18:11:54 <clokep> Actually no, I meant "critical".
18:12:25 <clokep> (Also, I don't think we have it marked anywhere what any of those things mean...)
18:13:36 <Mic|web> This is the video I meant: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxjiQoTp864
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18:22:39 <Mic|web> This one is available in HD: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLLJBfRzXIQ
18:22:42 <Mic|web> gtg
18:22:46 <Mic|web> Have a nice evening
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19:23:46 * aleth is having trouble coming up with a more fine-grained rule for when to remove the unread ruler
19:24:23 <aleth> Maybe one should require some user activity in a tab before removing the ruler merely because of loss of focus
19:24:30 <aleth> The problem is how to define "activity"
19:28:00 <aleth> My best idea so far is a very minimal one: activity = a certain span of time has elapsed during which that tab had focus
19:28:24 <aleth> The assumption being that the user will have actually been reading or looking at the tab in that case
19:36:52 <instantbot> aletheia2@fastmail.fm set the Resolution field on bug 823 to DUPLICATE of bug 1391.
19:36:57 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=823 enh, --, ---, nobody, RESO DUPLICATE, Localize new account selection screen for "popular accounts" of the locale
19:36:58 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1391 enh, --, 1.2, wnayes, RESO FIXED, Suggest popular protocols during account creation
19:39:50 <Optimizer> the right side nick list should remember its visibility upon window repoening
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21:05:46 <Mic> Hi
21:06:18 <Mic> Optimizer: it would be great if you could file bugs for actual bugs and enhancement requests.
21:07:16 <Mic> Our bugtracker has ~500 open bugs at the moment, so it should be easy to find dupes but if in doubt, file it anyways. We can always dupe bugs later :)
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21:23:37 <instantbot> New Instantbird (UI) bug 1450 filed by aletheia2@fastmail.fm.
21:23:38 <instantbot> aletheia2@fastmail.fm requested feedback from the wind for attachment 1492 on bug 1450.
21:23:50 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1450 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Only remove unread ruler when switching away from a tab if tab has been visible for a certain time
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21:33:04 <instantbot> aletheia2@fastmail.fm cancelled feedback? for attachment 1492 on bug 1450.
21:33:05 <instantbot> aletheia2@fastmail.fm requested feedback from the wind for attachment 1493 on bug 1450.
21:33:08 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1450 nor, --, ---, aletheia2, ASSI, Only remove unread ruler when switching away from a tab if tab has been visible for a certain time
21:46:43 <instantbot> aletheia2@fastmail.fm cancelled feedback? for attachment 1493 on bug 1450.
21:46:44 <instantbot> aletheia2@fastmail.fm requested feedback from the wind for attachment 1494 on bug 1450.
21:46:45 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1450 nor, --, ---, aletheia2, ASSI, Only remove unread ruler when switching away from a tab if tab has been visible for a certain time
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21:59:03 <instantbot> florian@instantbird.org granted feedback for attachment 1494 on bug 1450.
21:59:07 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1450 nor, --, ---, aletheia2, ASSI, Only remove unread ruler when switching away from a tab if tab has been visible for a certain time
22:04:01 <wnayes> I took up a different small project the past day or so; it's an addon that adds a few features to the log viewer: https://github.com/wnayes/log-helper
22:04:23 <wnayes> It has a ways to go, but I thought it might come in handy when working on my GSoC project.
22:12:23 <flo> wnayes: seems a very nice add-on! :)
22:13:08 <flo> Good night
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22:44:20 <instantbot> aletheia2@fastmail.fm requested review from florian@instantbird .org for attachment 1494 on bug 1450.
22:44:22 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1450 nor, --, ---, aletheia2, ASSI, Only remove unread ruler when switching away from a tab if tab has been visible for a certain time
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22:59:23 <aleth> wnayes: Looks like a useful add-on!
23:01:15 <wnayes> aleth, flo: Thanks :) Looking forward to starting on my summer project tomorrow!
23:02:41 <aleth> Don't forget to put the add-on on addons.instantbird.com when you are finished ;)
23:05:30 <instantbot> aletheia2@fastmail.fm requested review from florian@instantbird .org for attachment 1495 on bug 1375.
23:05:32 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1375 min, --, ---, aletheia2, ASSI, Followup: Unread ruler CSS and Bubbles margin improvements
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23:36:10 <instantbot> aletheia2@fastmail.fm cancelled review?(florian@instantbird .org) for attachment 1494 on bug 1450.
23:36:11 <instantbot> aletheia2@fastmail.fm requested review from florian@instantbird .org for attachment 1496 on bug 1450.
23:36:13 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1450 nor, --, ---, aletheia2, ASSI, Only remove unread ruler when switching away from a tab if tab has been visible for a certain time
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23:55:41 <instant-buildbot> build #255 of linux-onCommit is complete: Success [build successful]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/linux-onCommit/builds/255
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