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03:40:56 <instant-buildbot> build #399 of linux-nightly-default is complete: Success [build successful]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/linux-nightly-default/builds/399
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14:10:54 <instantbot> aletheia2@fastmail.fm set the Resolution field on bug 1010 to DUPLICATE of bug 959.
14:10:57 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1010 enh, --, ---, nobody, RESO DUPLICATE, Add a way to show full-size version of buddy avatar images
14:10:58 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=959 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Implement "Get buddy info" command
14:27:28 <clokep> Good morning.
14:32:55 <aleth> Morning :)
14:34:01 <clokep> Only 52 more uncomfirmed!
14:37:25 <aleth> Yes, and a whole bunch more will be resolved if the reporters don't follow up in the next week or two...
14:37:55 <clokep> What do you think of bug 427?
14:37:58 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=427 nor, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, Gecko shortcuts are not findable in the conversation window
14:39:55 <aleth> Are there any other shortcuts missing? If it's just Ctrl-F the context menu seems a good idea. 
14:41:43 <aleth> Hmm, there's bug 418
14:41:44 <clokep> No, the zoom shortcut, etc.
14:41:47 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=418 enh, --, ---, nobody, ASSI, Keyboard shortcut to open "Join chat" dialog from conversation windows
14:43:09 <aleth> But if you add all the standard shortcuts like zoom, it could make it quite a long context menu.
14:43:27 <aleth> and flo's bug 1271...
14:43:27 <clokep> I don't think they should be in a context menu.
14:43:31 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1271 enh, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Missing keyboard shortcuts for "Put conversation on hold" and "Show logs"
14:43:40 <clokep> I don't think I suggested that anywhere. :(
14:43:48 <aleth> and bug 964
14:43:51 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=964 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Add hotkey to conversation window to focus Contacts window
14:43:54 <clokep> Ah, I did in the ubg.
14:43:57 <aleth> clokep: you did ;)
14:44:00 <clokep> Yeah no. that wouldn't make sense.
14:44:36 <aleth> Maybe the better way is to fix bug 965 and provide a link to that in the Help menu maybe.
14:44:38 <clokep> The thing that probably makes the most sense is a context menu, but not sure it's worth having. :-/
14:44:39 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=965 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Provide a full list of hotkeys on the Wiki or in the FAQ
14:50:12 <aleth> What do you think about bug 663? What's a good way to explain the wontfix here?
14:50:16 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=663 enh, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, Implement alerts tab on buddy list for notifications and alerts
14:52:21 <clokep> You know, I actually feel like bug 965 is a dup of bug 427.
14:52:24 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=965 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Provide a full list of hotkeys on the Wiki or in the FAQ
14:52:25 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=427 nor, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, Gecko shortcuts are not findable in the conversation window
14:52:34 <clokep> aleth: That's incomplete or invalid I think.
14:52:35 <clokep> Not WONTFIX.
14:53:20 <aleth> Ah yes, that fits better. 
14:54:19 <aleth> Still don't know how to put it... The proposal just doesn't make much sense to me. The only interesting part is the "Instantbird button" in the screenshot which is not even mentioned ;)
14:54:40 <clokep> Mook had an extension for that.
14:55:17 <clokep> aleth: I think you should say something about filing bugs on issues and not on solutions.
14:55:26 <clokep> And that there might be better solutions for some of those issues.
14:55:44 <clokep> Instead of just throwing them into a big list on a second tab.
15:02:48 <aleth> I agree 965 and 427 are dups
15:03:49 <clokep> Go ahead and dup them then. ;)
15:05:29 <instantbot> aletheia2@fastmail.fm set the Resolution field on bug 965 to DUPLICATE of bug 427.
15:05:31 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=965 nor, --, ---, nobody, RESO DUPLICATE, Provide a full list of hotkeys on the Wiki or in the FAQ
15:05:32 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=427 min, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Gecko shortcuts are not discoverable in the conversation window
15:12:48 <clokep> Does anyone have Instantbird 1.1 installed?
15:17:49 <instantbot> aletheia2@fastmail.fm set the Resolution field on bug 663 to INVALID.
15:17:51 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=663 enh, --, ---, nobody, RESO INVALID, Implement alerts tab on buddy list for notifications and alerts
15:18:45 <clokep> Never mind, was able to confirm it.
15:19:23 <aleth> Hmm, my contacts list is still jumping around :(
15:19:45 <clokep> aleth: Good response.
15:19:52 <aleth> Ah, that patch hasn't landed yet, it's just r+. That explains it
15:20:30 <clokep> Ah, I see.
15:20:39 <clokep> You'll need to poke flo then I guess. :P
15:21:03 <aleth> That was probably while he was travelling.
15:21:24 <aleth> Better than discovering it doesn't work :P
15:22:46 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com set the Resolution field on bug 1249 to DUPLICATE of bug 745.
15:22:48 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1249 maj, --, ---, nobody, RESO DUPLICATE, If a Windows 7 machine goes to sleep due to inactivity, Instantbird does not attempt to reconnect ac
15:22:49 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=745 maj, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, Automatic reconnection to accounts is slow and not always work.
15:23:14 <clokep> aleth: I would tell him the bug #, he'll probably see it when he comes back.
15:24:16 <aleth> I wonder if there were any others like that
15:24:59 <clokep> It's usually only things that I r+, not flo. :)
15:25:25 * clokep wants to WONTFIX bug 773.
15:25:31 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=773 enh, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, Allow for Different Message Styles Themes Per Buddy
15:26:18 <aleth> Yes, add-on ;)
15:26:29 <clokep> Yup!
15:26:30 <aleth> Though it should be mentioned that Colorize doesn't work 
15:26:31 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com set the Resolution field on bug 773 to WONTFIX.
15:26:44 <aleth> In case the reporter follows up on the tip there
15:27:11 <clokep> I think the Mercurial version does...
15:27:13 <aleth> But I guess he didn't as it was months ago :P
15:28:44 <aleth> flo: Can bug 869 and bug 1252 land? They are r+, happened I think while you were travelling...
15:28:47 <clokep> Yeah I'm using Colorize 1.1 from Hg and it works fine.
15:28:48 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=869 nor, --, ---, aletheia2, ASSI, Contacts window forgets screen position when closed
15:28:49 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1252 nor, --, ---, aletheia2, ASSI, First listitem in log viewer never shows that it is selected
15:29:23 <clokep> aleth: Add something to the whiteboard maybe? [needs-to-land] or something.
15:29:48 <aleth> clokep: Does that make it visible anywhere unless one searches for it? 
15:30:03 <clokep> No.
15:30:07 <clokep> But at least we can find them easy.
15:30:22 <aleth> Isn't there a report for "r+ and not landed"? 
15:30:29 <aleth> That would be better...
15:30:50 <clokep> You might be able to search for bugs with an r+ attachment and not closed.
15:31:20 <clokep> And maybe make a saved search from it.
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15:41:59 <clokep> aleth: bug 1120...does that sound like an add-on?
15:42:03 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1120 enh, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, Filter messages in a group chat based on participant
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15:46:24 <aleth> Either an add-on or a special case of what would have to be a much more general feature.
15:47:10 <clokep> Yeah.
15:47:30 <clokep> Down to 43.
15:47:52 <aleth> :)
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16:43:21 <aleth> Bug 1138, should it be an add-on or is the proposed solution actually something that could be in IB?
16:43:25 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1138 enh, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, Easier way to hold conversation instead of closing
16:44:31 <clokep> I think flo wants to refine the behavior but I don't think double clicking is the way to go.
16:44:51 <aleth> It's not intuitive.
16:45:24 <clokep> I agree.
16:49:09 <instantbot> aletheia2@fastmail.fm set the Resolution field on bug 1138 to DUPLICATE of bug 1271.
16:49:14 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1138 enh, --, ---, nobody, RESO DUPLICATE, Easier way to hold conversation instead of closing
16:49:15 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1271 enh, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Missing keyboard shortcuts for "Put conversation on hold" and "Show logs"
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16:54:44 <aleth> Bug 1267, is that invalid / inherited from libpurple / an icon one should swap?
16:54:47 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1267 min, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, Rename "MSN" to "Windows Live Messenger" and use the new logo
16:56:22 <aleth> I don't understand bug 838
16:56:25 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=838 nor, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, User listed in contact list with ejabberd and mod_shared_roster_ldap
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17:11:08 <clokep> aleth: I don't either. Idk if it's just XMPP jargon I don't get or if it doesn't make sense.
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17:13:21 <aleth> I think he wants "if I am listed in a shared roster, don't add me as a buddy like the other members"
17:14:23 <clokep> Yes.
17:14:28 <clokep> Idk what a shared roster is though.
17:14:29 <aleth> The question I guess is "what does JS-XMPP do with shared rosters"
17:14:45 * clokep wants to look at redesigning the join chat stuff but has too many open bugs. :-/
17:15:49 <aleth> A shared roster is just "contacts that all users on a server get automatically" I think
17:16:45 <aleth> Not sure about the details though
17:17:15 <clokep> Ah, I see.
17:17:23 <clokep> So like to share a company wide list of employees.
17:17:32 <aleth> Yes
17:23:07 <clokep> Ah cool.
17:23:18 <clokep> Instantbird should do the same as Pidign though.
17:23:30 <aleth> That's the bit I didn't understand.
17:24:02 <clokep> What version of Ib was it?
17:24:45 <aleth> 0.3pre
17:33:30 <clokep> I replied so...hopefully it's just fixed and we can forget abou tit. :)
17:34:12 <aleth> :)
17:53:11 <clokep> Looks like there's like 5 - 10 we're waiting for more info for?
18:13:50 <aleth> Yes
18:14:17 <aleth> That'll probably end up incomplete as it's usually been a while since they were reported :-/
18:14:32 <clokep> Yes, what I would expect to.
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18:45:37 <aleth> Looks like JS-IRC might be landing this weekend? :)
18:47:46 <clokep> It still needs the connecting/disconnecting logic to be looked over again.
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20:28:26 <aleth> iMessage with multiple protocols for the same buddy sticks them all in the same "tab" http://static.arstechnica.net/2012/02/16/messages_foresman_example3-4f3d6a3-intro.jpg
20:30:53 <aleth> Not all that impressed with the UI (from the screenshots at least) http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2012/02/hands-on-with-imessage-beta-on-the-desktop-a-good-start-with-beta-bugs.ars
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