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00:20:03 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 00:20:03 * ChanServ sets mode +h clokep 00:24:34 <flo> my crash was in the xml parser (http://crash-stats.instantbird.com/report/index/606a33dd-26e5-4346-9d11-7115a2111227) :( 00:27:54 <flo> I guess I can hope it's fixed by https://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/c6d39182a867, although I don't really believe it (the stack trace isn't exactly the same) 00:28:03 <clokep> flo: Your last crash was 56 days ago?! 00:28:23 <flo> yes, less than 2 months ago :( 00:28:26 <flo> too much crashing... 00:28:42 <clokep> I've been crashing every shut down. :( 00:29:24 <flo> but you are the only one doing that ;) 00:29:41 <clokep> Yes.... 00:30:01 <clokep> If I just start up and shutdown a lot I'll make it the top crasher? :P 00:30:51 <flo> what's your favorite stack? 00:30:59 <clokep> http://crash-stats.instantbird.com/report/index/6ac74e0c-e7aa-44a1-a21c-f3bc02111227 seems to work. 00:34:58 <flo> that's on shutdown? 00:35:59 <clokep> I believe so. 00:36:22 <clokep> Yup, that's my latest crash, which is when I close Instantbird out. 00:37:34 <flo> I don't see a good reason for calling purpleAccountBuddy::GetCanSendMessage during shutdown 00:38:30 <clokep> Me neither. :-/ 00:38:56 <flo> it would be really helpful to know the JS stack 00:39:08 <clokep> Is there a way I can get that? 00:39:24 <-- BlueMaxima has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.1) 00:40:04 <flo> if you can reproduce in a debug build in gdb, you just need to execute |call DumpJSStack()| 00:41:56 <clokep> I'll see if it crashes in my debug build first and then take it from there 00:42:44 --> BlueMaxima has joined #instantbird 00:43:34 <flo> apparently in Visual studio you need to evaluate |{,,xul}DumpJSStack()| in the QuickWatch window 00:43:52 <flo> that's what https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Debugging_Mozilla_on_Windows_FAQ#Debugging_JavaScript (which seems largely outdated) says at least 00:44:11 <clokep> Hmm...OK. :-/ If I can't figure it out, maybe Mook would know? 00:45:32 <flo> I haven't used the visual studio GUI in a long while... In what I remember, it was pretty good and straightforward when it worked, which is usually the case for win32 applications, and was exceptionally rare for WinCE applications :( 00:46:19 <clokep> Good to know! :) I have very little idea how to use Visual Studio, every time I have to use it is a struggle. 00:47:49 * flo goes to bed 00:47:53 <flo> Good evening/night 00:48:05 <clokep> Goodnight! 00:53:40 <-- GeekShadow has quit (Ping timeout) 01:02:53 --> GeekShadow has joined #instantbird 01:06:58 <-- GeekShadow has quit (Ping timeout) 01:11:36 --> GeekShadow has joined #instantbird 01:50:26 <-- clokep has quit (Ping timeout) 04:00:12 --> skeledrew has joined #instantbird 04:32:18 <-- skeledrew has quit (Ping timeout) 04:42:17 --> Mook has joined #instantbird 04:46:12 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 04:46:13 * ChanServ sets mode +h clokep 05:49:45 <-- Mook has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.87-rdmsoft [XULRunner 6.0/20110811165603]) 06:13:22 --> yubby has joined #instantbird 06:14:43 <-- yubby has quit (Client exited) 06:20:47 <-- clokep has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2a1pre) 06:39:28 --> myk has joined #instantbird 06:42:35 <-- myk has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.1) 08:08:49 <-- BlueMaxima has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.1) 08:21:26 --> gerard-majax has joined #instantbird 09:15:02 --> skeledrew has joined #instantbird 09:30:17 <-- skeledrew has quit (Ping timeout) 09:59:33 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 10:02:50 <aleth> Merry Xmas :) 10:06:15 <-- aleth has quit (Input/output error) 10:06:39 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 10:12:00 <aleth> New error message on startup: |Failed to load native module at path '/instantbird/components/libmozgnome.so': (80004005) libORBit-2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory| 10:13:02 <aleth> Then, after startup, |Error: uncaught exception: [Exception... "'[JavaScript Error: "this.target is undefined" {file: "jar:file:///instantbird/omni.jar!/components/imConversations.js" line: 281}]' when calling method: [imIConversation::account]" nsresult: "0x80570021 (NS_ERROR_XPC_JAVASCRIPT_ERROR_WITH_DETAILS)" location: "JS frame :: chrome://instantbird/content/conversation.xml :: <TOP_LEVEL> :: line 612" data: yes]| 10:13:09 <aleth> (multiple times) 10:13:18 <aleth> are these known already? 10:24:19 --> skeledrew has joined #instantbird 10:30:51 --> mmkmou has joined #instantbird 10:38:38 <-- skeledrew has quit (Ping timeout) 10:40:50 --> skeledrew has joined #instantbird 10:44:18 <-- skeledrew has quit (Ping timeout) 10:46:24 --> skeledrew has joined #instantbird 10:58:38 <-- mmkmou has left #instantbird () 10:59:17 <flo> aleth: hello 10:59:27 <flo> aleth: the first message is just a file that doesn't exist on your system 11:00:14 <flo> and if you have the second message with the latest nightly and have steps to reproduce, please file a bug. I thought I fixed that :-/ 11:03:10 <aleth> Steps to reproduce are 1) start IB ;) 11:03:23 <aleth> But I'll file a bug 11:17:05 <flo> that's not useful steps to reproduce :-P 11:29:49 <-- skeledrew has quit (Ping timeout) 11:34:52 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 11:34:53 * ChanServ sets mode +h Mic 11:42:41 --> skeledrew has joined #instantbird 11:47:39 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2a1pre) 11:51:07 --> jb has joined #instantbird 11:53:10 <-- skeledrew has quit (Ping timeout) 12:13:25 --> skeledrew has joined #instantbird 12:13:44 --> igorko has joined #instantbird 12:16:53 <-- skeledrew has quit (Ping timeout) 12:28:25 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2a1pre) 12:29:39 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 12:36:47 <instantbot> New purplexpcom - General bug 1214 filed by aletheia2@fastmail.fm. 12:36:51 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1214 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, this.target is undefined (IRC DMs) 12:37:16 <aleth> Narrowed it down a little 12:48:25 <instantbot> New purplexpcom - Twitter bug 1215 filed by aletheia2@fastmail.fm. 12:48:27 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1215 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Error on receiving a twitter message 13:04:31 --> skeledrew has joined #instantbird 13:06:44 <-- skeledrew has quit (Ping timeout) 13:18:37 --> skeledrew has joined #instantbird 13:20:59 <-- skeledrew has quit (Ping timeout) 13:24:07 --> FeuerFliege has joined #instantbird 13:29:06 --> skeledrew has joined #instantbird 13:51:02 <-- skeledrew has quit (Ping timeout) 13:58:27 --> skeledrew has joined #instantbird 14:04:46 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 14:32:39 <-- skeledrew has quit (Ping timeout) 14:40:58 --> skeledrew has joined #instantbird 14:44:06 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 14:44:06 * ChanServ sets mode +h clokep 15:02:39 <-- skeledrew has quit (Ping timeout) 15:03:38 --> skeledrew has joined #instantbird 15:14:58 --> ecaron has joined #instantbird 15:18:09 <-- igorko has quit (Connection reset by peer) 15:18:20 <-- skeledrew has quit (Ping timeout) 15:24:39 --> mmkmou has joined #instantbird 15:28:10 --> skeledrew has joined #instantbird 15:29:29 <-- skeledrew has quit (Connection reset by peer) 15:34:30 <-- Glards has quit (Quit: Lost terminal) 16:16:34 --> myk has joined #instantbird 16:23:23 <-- clokep has quit (Ping timeout) 16:28:00 --> skeledrew has joined #instantbird 16:32:25 <-- mmkmou has left #instantbird () 16:33:07 <-- skeledrew has quit (Ping timeout) 16:38:37 --> jb has joined #instantbird 16:40:04 --> skeledrew has joined #instantbird 16:42:53 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 16:42:53 * ChanServ sets mode +h clokep 16:47:20 <-- gerard-majax has quit (Ping timeout) 16:49:10 --> igorko has joined #instantbird 16:50:18 <-- myk has quit (No route to host) 17:03:33 <-- skeledrew has quit (Ping timeout) 17:13:54 --> myk has joined #instantbird 17:18:41 --> rothaut has joined #instantbird 17:19:26 <rothaut> guten Abend miteinander! 17:20:43 <rothaut> Ich bin grad dabei, Instant Bird mit Screnreader zu testen. also mit einem bildschirmausleseprogramm, das Nichtsehende statt Monitor und Maus verwenden, könnte man kurz sagen. 17:21:03 <clokep> I'm not sure if anyone speaks German that is here right now. :( Do you speak English? 17:21:35 <clokep> Google Translate really doesn't work well. :-D 17:21:49 <rothaut> I am afraid, my english is not very good. 17:22:02 <rothaut> But I will try ;) 17:22:14 <clokep> It's better than my German. :) 17:22:30 <clokep> So you're testing Instantbird with a screen reader? 17:22:58 <rothaut> yes, that is correct. 17:24:03 <rothaut> I have installed it and I have installed my acounts, of ICQ, Facebook, MSn, but now only facebook is active. 17:24:54 <rothaut> Here i am working with mirc, for it works very well with my screnreader, and I will figure out, how I can make instant Bird working well with my screenreader. 17:25:30 <clokep> Which screenreader software are you using by the way? 17:25:55 <clokep> We've heard that Instantbird works fairly well with screen readers, but parts of it need some work. 17:26:14 <rothaut> But I am afraid the first thing I need to know is, how can I go to about:config for I have to change saome values there, so that my screenreader has a chance to work. 17:26:45 <clokep> It's in the same place as it is in Firefox Tools > Options> Advanced Tab > Config Editor... 17:30:12 <rothaut> I looked for it there, but in tools options in the german version in advanced, I only have two tabs, Network and update. and 17:30:14 <rothaut> :( 17:30:35 <clokep> There should be a general tab. :-/ 17:30:46 <clokep> (Or whatever that is in German, obviously.) 17:31:22 <rothaut> It should say "allgemein", but I cannot discover it. 17:32:08 <rothaut> I am afraid, it gets no focus, and with the navigation I just can work, when I have changed the values in About config :( 17:33:04 <clokep> :-/ I'm not sure. 17:33:17 <clokep> You could also open it from the error console. 17:33:31 <aleth> The 'simple' message style has some extra tags for screen readers afaik 17:34:05 <rothaut> I have it *juhuuu*. the cursor refused it, but you said, it is there, so I put the Cursor one Tab left, were it shoed nothing before, and now it is there, thank you very much. 17:34:06 <-- aleth has quit (Connection reset by peer) 17:34:24 <rothaut> The first step would be done soon thank you so much. 17:34:52 <clokep> rothaut: Great, glad you got it to work. :( It'd be wonderful to know what the issue is. 17:36:28 <rothaut> But perhaps can you tell me, if there is perhaps any add-on or any plugin, that can make the Screenreader or something lese to read the jessage, or to tell me that a message is there Sounds I have enabled but it would be nice to know from whom the message is.b 17:37:29 <clokep> I don't know any add-ons, as aleth suggested using the "Simple" message style might work better though. 17:38:07 --> Tomek has joined #instantbird 17:38:50 <rothaut> Hmm, is that not the default setting? 17:40:18 <clokep> No, the default message style is Bubbles. 17:41:40 <rothaut> Ok thank you vory much for that tipp, I will try at once afte I had changed about config. And then I will tell you, what vallues I have changed. Perhaps when it works, it can be helpfull for someone else. 17:42:13 <clokep> Yes, that'd be great, thank you! 17:50:20 <rothaut> I have copied now the Text from the GWmicro Knoledge-Base. 17:50:24 <rothaut> And it says: 17:50:25 <rothaut> 6. In the filter Edit Box type "direct2d.disabled". 17:50:25 <rothaut> 7. Press Tab to get to the list of filtered entries and you should see one called 17:50:25 <rothaut> "gfx.direct2d.disabled" with a default value of False. 17:50:25 <rothaut> 8. Press Enter to toggle this value to True. 17:50:25 <rothaut> 9. Press Shift-Tab to get back to the filter Edit Box and type "layers.acceleration.disabled". 17:50:25 <rothaut> 10. Press Tab to get to the list of filtered entries and you should see one called 17:50:25 <rothaut> "layers.acceleration.disabled" with a default value of False. 17:50:26 <rothaut> 11. Press Enter to toggle this value to True. 17:51:08 <rothaut> And now the Navigation works really. 17:51:33 <rothaut> But the Message stiyle is on simply, but I can see no difference. 17:57:58 <rothaut> 7. Press Tab to get to the list of filtered entries and you should see one called 17:57:58 <rothaut> "gfx.direct2d.disabled" with a default value of False. 17:57:58 <rothaut> 8. Press Enter to toggle this value to True. 17:57:58 <rothaut> 9. Press Shift-Tab to get back to the filter Edit Box and type "layers.acceleration.disabled". 17:57:58 <rothaut> 10. Press Tab to get to the list of filtered entries and you should see one called 17:57:58 <rothaut> "layers.acceleration.disabled" with a default value of False. 17:57:58 <rothaut> 11. 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