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01:09:02 <clokep_work> EionRobb: http://lxr.instantbird.org/instantbird/source/purple/purplexpcom/src/twitter.js http://hg.instantbird.org/experiments/file/85ea3456f80e/irc-js%40patrick.cloke http://hg.instantbird.org/addons/file/e6281ed3a17f/omegle
01:10:27 <EionRobb> you're too awesome clokep_work :)
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01:21:35 <clokep_work> EionRobb: You're welcome. There's also two others ones (GSoC: https://github.com/vpj/xmpp-js/ and one that I've put very little work into: http://hg.instantbird.org/experiments/file/85ea3456f80e/xbox-live%40patrick.cloke)
01:21:59 <clokep_work> The xmpp one works, but it's a bit unorganized, the other one probably isn't worth looking at...but that's all of our resources. :)
01:23:36 <EionRobb> neat
01:25:15 <clokep_work> The Xbox Live one is me messing around with adding things to the buddy list mostly, it doesn't have any real "protocol" behind it.
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01:32:20 <EionRobb> what kind of things get added?
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01:35:12 <clokep_work> Your Xbox Live friends, but it's very very unfinished, I think it's hard coded with some fake names, etc.
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01:40:00 <EionRobb> is it not part of the msn protocol?
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01:43:30 <clokep_work> If you sign into MSN from your Xbox you can IM people when they sign into Xbox LIVE.
01:44:18 <clokep_work> I wanted to play with buddies/tooltips so it would show your "gamercard" in the tooltip essentially and whether you were online or not (which I don't think is possible btw) and of course be able to send an XBL message if possible, but that's definitely not possible.
01:44:32 <clokep_work> Microsoft doesn't have any public API for interacting w/ XBL unforutnately.
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01:59:19 <EionRobb> I wonder how raptr do it then... maybe they're just screenscraping too?
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02:03:43 <clokep_work> raptr? I'm not familiar.
02:03:53 <clokep_work> You can log into the websites (xbox.com) and screenscrape from it.
02:03:59 <clokep_work> But I'm lazy. ;)
02:04:25 <clokep_work> There's a way to see what has been played recently, etc. etc.
02:04:32 <clokep_work> But getting online status / friends list isn't very easy.
02:05:18 <clokep_work> (There actually is also apparently an API, but it's closed...)
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10:16:56 <flo> hello
10:17:04 <flo> I'm working on bug 981.
10:17:07 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=981 enh, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Context menu for "hidden conversations"-list items.
10:17:25 <flo> I hesitate between "Leave conversation" and "Close conversation", any opinion?
10:18:27 <flo> "Leave" sounds better to me for chat rooms but is a bit odd for private conversations, "close" seems more generic but doesn't reflect that others may see the user as leaving
10:19:54 <clokep_work> "Close & Leave Conversation"? ;)
10:20:37 <flo> "You are boring, I'll go make some coffee instead of reading your rants"? :-D A bit too long :-/.
10:27:58 <clokep_work> Perhaps hard to translate too. :(
10:28:24 <Mic> "End Conversation" ?
10:28:43 <Mic> might be a bit harsh, though ;)
10:30:24 <clokep_work> No, harsh would be "Terminate Conversation" :P
10:30:59 <clokep_work> Does the context menu of like tabs in 1.0 have anything about closing conversation? If so, we can just reuse that text.
10:31:09 <clokep_work> (Or the tooltip over the 'x' button)
10:31:17 <flo> clokep_work: it says "Close tab"
10:31:20 <flo> which doesn't help us
10:31:44 <clokep_work> Ah, no it doesn't. :-/
10:32:07 <flo> I was also wondering if we should replace "Close tab" with either "Hide conversation" or "Close conversation" depending on what will happen if the tab is closed
10:32:21 <flo> and we will definitely add a "Leave conversation" for chat rooms
10:32:34 <clokep_work> I don't like "Leave conversation" because you could Leave a room without closing the conversation by parting.
10:32:53 <clokep_work> So I think "Close conversation" is really the only option.
10:33:08 <flo> I'm also wondering if we should make the hidden conversation feature an option (on by default) exposed in the Tabs prefpane, or just remove the previous behavior.
10:33:19 <Mic> Leave is less ambiguous than Close in my opinion
10:33:19 <flo> hmm, that makes sense
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10:34:14 <flo> and now I'm trying to change the "Start a conversation" context menu item of contacts to "Show conversation" when a conversation already exists for that contact ^^
10:34:33 <Mic> You can close the window/tab without leave the conversation/channel that you were in
10:34:35 <Mic> *leaving
10:39:06 <Mic> clokep_work: why do you think that closing the window feels like "leaving the room"? You're still in the rooms list when you think about it  .. so you haven't actually left it.
10:39:51 <clokep_work> Mic: I'm talking about the context menu for conversation on the list...
10:40:19 <clokep_work> "Leave room" would be inappropriate, because you can actually leave a room without closing the conversation.
10:40:23 <FeuerFliege> name it as you want, I have to translate it anyway ^^
10:41:43 <FeuerFliege> But I like close, even if it is leave the room first and than close item
10:41:51 <Mic> I don't understand what you mean by that? If there are unread messages maybe and the item in the conversations list persists while the room is parted already maybe?
10:42:55 * flo is now completely confused :-S
10:43:13 <clokep_work> That's fine, but it's a different thing than closing a conversation.
10:43:37 <clokep_work> Fully closing one (I.e. removing it from the list and "parting", whatever that means for a protocol).
10:46:19 <Mic> http://typewith.me/zOZsUPJy8E , maybe that's more suitable for this job?
10:56:35 <flo> should we rename "Show offline buddies" to "Show offline contacts"?
10:59:05 * flo thinks yes
10:59:30 <clokep_work> I think so, didn't we wish to rename everything from "Buddy" to "Contact" at one point?
11:00:05 <Mic> Yes, sounds good
11:05:13 <flo> lunch time
11:05:45 <flo> I have a first iteration of a patch for bug 981
11:05:48 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=981 enh, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Context menu for "hidden conversations"-list items.
11:05:57 <flo> I would like to land all the string changes related to hidden conversations at once :).
11:13:30 * Mic is away, preparing lunch. Don't count on me during the next minutes ;)
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11:58:06 <instantbot> florian@instantbird.org added attachment 843 to bug 981.
11:58:08 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=981 enh, --, ---, florian, NEW, Context menu for "hidden conversations"-list items.
12:00:58 <FeuerFliege> I updated my girlfriends instandbird to the latest nightly and showed her the Hidden Conversation feature. She tried to drag and drop tabs to the section. Perhaps that is something that could be added?
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12:03:15 <clokep_work> Sounds kind of reasonable.
12:03:44 <clokep_work> (And is possible.)
12:03:59 <clokep_work> There's a bug somewhere about making things more drag and droppable in general, but you could file one for htis case.
12:05:20 <flo> hmm, it could even work both ways
12:05:53 <flo> dragging a hidden conversation to the tab bar could be useful too :)
12:06:00 <flo> FeuerFliege: mind filing a bug? :)
12:07:22 <FeuerFliege> no, already at it
12:09:39 <flo> the pattern "show some new software toy you just made to a women, the first thing she attempts to do with it has never been implemented or even thought of, even though it's obvious" is surprisingly common. We should probably attempt to get more female nightly testers ;).
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12:10:32 <clokep_work> Haha flo, sounds like you could make a psychology experiment out of that. :P
12:12:04 <lewellyn> flo: i'm working on getting my girlfriend to run it alongside adium ;)
12:12:14 <instantbot> New Instantbird (UI) bug 1048 filed by do.not.deliver@gmx.de.
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12:12:40 <flo> FeuerFliege: hmm, is it instantbot that hates you, or the opposite? ;)
12:13:28 <FeuerFliege> flo: and I did not use “” or »« this time …
12:13:54 <FeuerFliege> maybe the ellipsis
12:14:32 <lewellyn> i take it FeuerFliege is a mac user ;)
12:14:40 <FeuerFliege> lewellyn: NOK
12:14:42 <FeuerFliege> NO!
12:15:12 <lewellyn> mac users tend to use more of the "extended character set" than most :)
12:16:25 <FeuerFliege> lewellyn: I use a special ergonomic keyboard layout. It has four modifiers and over 6 layers filled with all the good stuff
12:16:38 <lewellyn> i have a compose key
12:16:45 <FeuerFliege> http://neo-layout.org
12:16:46 <lewellyn> ;)
12:16:55 <FeuerFliege> lewellyn: I can compose, too!
12:17:04 <lewellyn> unfortunately, i'm on windows atm, so it does silly things :(
12:17:05 <FeuerFliege> lewellyn: kinda unique for windows
12:17:20 <FeuerFliege> ☺
12:18:00 <lewellyn> do you have <Compose> <C> <C> <C> <P> on there? :)
12:18:19 <FeuerFliege> no. ☹
12:19:17 <FeuerFliege> there is a pretty hard limit in the keyboard architecture. I am limited to <compose> <foo> <bar>
12:19:44 <lewellyn> i think there's all the new unicode emoji on compose sequences now, too.
12:20:10 <lewellyn> i bet instantbot would hate those :D
12:21:15 <FeuerFliege> I changed form Miranda-IM to instantbird, because it is the only IM client that supports all modifiers that the neo-layout provides.
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12:54:13 <Mic> FeuerFliege: bug 286 has ideas on dragging contacts to conversation windows by the way. Maybe you're interested in this as well.
12:54:16 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=286 enh, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Drag & drop of buddies
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12:59:45 <ecaron> Is there a good place for me to upload shares files for the group?
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13:00:29 <ecaron> Also, how should this tweet be responded to: http://twitter.com/#!/dicksforeyes/status/117034716326146049
13:01:12 <flo> ecaron: I've no idea of what bug he's talking about.
13:01:53 <flo> what are "shares files" exactly?
13:06:13 <lewellyn> what a username
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13:48:50 <Mic> Should have parted MUCs have a "Rejoin" context menu item?
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13:50:23 <flo> maybe, but I don't think we need that for 1.1
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14:03:44 <FeuerFliege> and again … does someone have problems with facebook?
14:05:13 <instantbot> New Instantbird (UI) bug 1049 filed by benediktp@ymail.com.
14:05:15 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1049 enh, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Context menu of hidden conversations should allow to rejoin parted MUCs
14:05:34 <Mic> Yes, especially after Mr. Zukcerberg's latest F8 announcements ;)
14:05:38 <FeuerFliege> I get a resource conflict sometimes
14:05:43 <FeuerFliege> Mic: livebook
14:05:49 <FeuerFliege> lifebook
14:06:08 <Mic> Maybe I'm just too old for this ;)
14:06:39 <FeuerFliege> right, just Google+ then, hu?
14:11:27 <flo> Mic: why only for hidden conversations?
14:12:32 <Mic> You think for normal tabs as well?
14:13:05 <Mic> Isn't there a more obvious way to do that then from the context menu?
14:13:39 <Mic> e.g. replacing the input box with a Rejoin button if the conversation was parted (or reconnect if its account was disconnected)?
14:14:33 <Mic> I need to go, have a nice day
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16:01:12 <clokep_work> Hello. :)
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17:07:37 <flo> "Firefox 7 [...]moves to RELEASED on September 27, 2011 " (https://wiki.mozilla.org/Releases/)
17:07:37 <flo> There's no way we can release 1.1 before that. Shouldn't we switch to Mozilla 7 ASAP to have some time to hunt regressions?
17:09:40 <clokep_work> Yes, if we're going to use 7.
17:11:43 <flo> I'll try to work on that this evening
17:13:57 <flo> we should also check in our list of 1.1 bugs what needs string changes and give priority to that (or clearly decide that it's too late for this release for some of these bugs)
17:14:53 <flo> Back later
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17:42:22 <clokep_work> bug 981, bug 985, I think are the only ones w/ string changes? At least on my really quick look.
17:42:26 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=981 enh, --, ---, florian, NEW, Context menu for "hidden conversations"-list items.
17:42:27 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=985 enh, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Add "Leave conversation" to the context menu of tabs
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18:53:42 <FeuerFliege> and basically every text about hidden conversation. It is not possible to localize them yet.
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19:32:20 <aleth> "/me is not a supported command." -- but it is! or was yesterday ;)
19:32:33 <aleth> in fact "/raw /me ..." still works
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19:38:27 <clokep_work> aleth: This was fixed in last night's nightly.
19:39:07 <aleth> hmm I thought I had the latest one
19:39:11 <aleth> was there a build problem?
19:39:40 <aleth> ...yes
19:39:45 <aleth> that explains it
19:39:56 <clokep_work> Idk. I have crappy internet right now.
19:40:09 <clokep_work> Ah, yeah. Linux/Mac failed last night.
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19:48:02 <flo> bug 990 has a string too
19:48:05 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=990 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Closing a conversation window with unread messages should give a hint about the "hidden conversation
19:48:40 <flo> bug 976 and bug 1021 have strings. But I think it's too late for them.
19:48:43 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=976 enh, --, ---, clokep, ASSI, Support Microsoft Office Communicator protocol (SIPE)
19:48:44 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1021 maj, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Replace unsupported libpurple QQ with libqq-pidgin
19:49:48 <clokep_work> Yeah, I don't think I'll get around to SIPE this cycle.
19:53:51 <aleth> Already a lot of goodies lined up for 1.1...
19:59:05 <flo> I also think it's already good enough to deserve to be shipped
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21:23:25 * FeuerFliege no gusta?
21:25:56 <FeuerFliege> flo: will you push all Hidden conversations strings at once? 
21:26:08 <flo> I think so
21:26:44 <FeuerFliege> ok, I just wondered
21:27:39 <FeuerFliege> will it be called instantbird 1.1 or will it instanbird 2?
21:28:07 <flo> I think it will be 1.1
21:28:36 <clokep_work> I'm on board for 1.1. :)
21:29:38 <flo> we said we would release at the end of the month
21:30:16 <flo> does September 29th (Thursday!) sound possible, or should we admit that it's already missed, and release a week later?
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21:31:17 <clokep_work> Probably mostly depends on translations?
21:32:14 <flo> releasing on the 29th means we need to do the (last) release candidate on the 28th, so the translations need to be ready for the 27th (or at the very last 28 morning).
21:32:18 <flo> That seems very short :(
21:32:38 <FeuerFliege> clokep_work: there wasn’t mucht to translate up to now …
21:32:39 <aleth> Not to forget, enable hidden conversations needs a preferences tickbox?
21:32:43 <flo> even if we string freeze tomorrow, that leaves only 3 days for translations
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21:33:45 <flo> I don't know how far behind translators are. I know we have ~5 locales that are (almost) up to date, missing at most a handful of strings
21:34:24 <flo> it's stupid that we get the data only when translators push changes to their translation
21:34:43 <flo> we would need to produce it for each change of the en-US repository + of the locale
21:35:09 <flo> hmm, we also need to update the website (at the very least write some release notes, and let interested translators translate them...)
21:35:48 <clokep_work> Not that I'm expecting big changes on the Mozilla side, but it would also be only two days after Firefox 7 is released, if we want to take that into account.
21:36:02 <clokep_work> We practically have release notes in the status update I've never posted. :P
21:36:08 <Mic> Would another week give the opportunity to ship with moz7?
21:36:17 <flo> as that as I can tell, your blog post isn't translated ;)
21:36:31 <flo> Mic: we will ship moz7
21:36:34 <clokep_work> Oh, sure. It's translated into English. :P
21:37:00 <Mic> I thought we're only on moz6 at the moment...
21:37:07 * Mic goes and checks.
21:37:10 <flo> well, I'm about to push a changeset to change that
21:37:18 <Mic> :)
21:37:18 <flo> next nightlies should be on moz7
21:37:31 <Mic> Moz7 has the nice new things to extend the add-ons manager iirc
21:37:42 <flo> cool :)
21:37:49 <flo> and a more usable about:memory too I think
21:37:54 <Mic> Something I considered using if I ever manage to get something done on the content preview extension
21:38:04 <clokep_work> So each time we change that I have to manually |hg update -c| (or something like that) on my /mozilla directory, is there a way to automate that at all?
21:38:24 <flo> are there new developers we need to add to the credits dialog?
21:38:26 <Mic> I was thinking to include the "preview providers" like greasemonkey scripts are (with a separate category on the add-ons manager)
21:39:20 <clokep_work> :)
21:39:21 <clokep_work> That sounds nice.
21:39:27 <flo> clokep_work: if you haven't hacked your mozilla tree (and don't mind overriding any changes), you can |python client.py checkout --clean|. That's what buildbot does
21:40:22 <flo> I meant to do some python/hg hacking to automate the change by detecting that there's no local change (so no possible conflict) but I've never actually written it
21:41:00 <flo> is anybody willing to help for bug 979 and bug 986 ?
21:41:03 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=979 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Fix look for "Hidden conversations" /"Contacts" contact list sections and their headers
21:41:04 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=986 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, OS specific theming for "unread count"
21:42:12 <flo> hmm, is there a mozilla7 for developers page somewhere that I should read to double check that nothing is scary before pushing the update to nightlies?
21:42:22 <Mic> Give me a moment..
21:42:51 <Mic> Is the Fx 7 page good enough? https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Firefox_7_for_developers
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21:44:32 <flo> "text-overflow is now supported." :)
21:47:20 <flo> "The Components.utils.unload() method lets you unload JavaScript code modules" is important too :)
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21:50:46 <Mic> I like this one, too: "Extension options can now be displayed inside the Add-on Manager for both restartless and traditional extensions."
21:52:09 <flo> it's great too, but you already mentioned it a few minutes ago ;)
21:52:22 <flo> I look forward to using it :)
21:52:36 <Mic> No, I meant the extensibility of the add-ons manager with extra categories back then
21:53:10 <flo> ah, ok. I read what I liked then :-D
21:54:31 <flo> hmm, I have some new warnings in the error console
21:54:45 <Mic> http://img.techsplurge.com/2010/10/scriptish.png
21:54:55 <Mic> This sort of thing is what I referred to earlier
21:55:53 <flo> I understood, I had just read too quickly the first time :)
22:01:15 <Mic> https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=986#c0
22:01:17 <instantbot> Bug 986 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, OS specific theming for "unread count"
22:01:43 <Mic> What's the "updates count number" you mentioned there?
22:02:39 <Mic> Could you send me a screenshot .. I haven't found anything yet? (Looking for iTunes + different sets of these words there with Google)
22:03:30 <Mic> Wait .. this maybe: http://www.pleasantsoftware.com/birdie/de/images/iTunesAppsUpdate.png ?
22:03:30 <instantbot> florian@instantbird.org added attachment 844 to bug 986.
22:03:32 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=986 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, OS specific theming for "unread count"
22:03:46 <flo> Mic: yes, that was it
22:09:21 <Mic> Selected contacts/conversations don't have the blue background as it is on the item in the screenshot that I posted?
22:10:48 <Mic> Is it grey, like here: http://www.instantbird.com/images/screenshots/macosx-smart-contacts.png ?
22:17:01 <instantbot> florian@instantbird.org set the Resolution field on bug 1001 to FIXED.
22:17:03 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1001 min, --, 1.1a1, florian, RESO FIXED, New messages merge with existing context bubbles
22:17:22 <flo> yes, it's grey
22:17:43 <flo> the nicklist looks like your screenshot, w.r.t backgrounds
22:18:48 <Mic> Ok, I'll try to find something decent tomorrow
22:19:39 <Mic> Good night
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22:19:46 <flo> Good night :)
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22:23:00 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/e20f66fc88fc - Florian Quèze - Update Mozilla to version 7.0b6.
22:23:01 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/33ad74c11b8c - Florian Quèze - Bug 1001 - New messages shouldn't be merged into a context bubbles.
22:23:49 <clokep_work> Well then. I'm still here.
22:25:36 <flo> I was saying good night to Mic (but too late). I'm still here, but should go to bed soon too
22:26:43 <flo> I wonder how much of that sw:1.1 list we can get done tomorrow :-D.
22:27:46 <flo> none of these bugs look like it would take more than an hour to address (except maybe one or two), but we still have a significant number of them
22:28:57 <clokep_work> Well my flight was moved and I'm not getting in until very late now so I don't think I'll finish anything up tonight/tomorrow. :-/
22:29:34 <flo> are you flying home?
22:29:51 <clokep_work> Yes.
22:29:51 <clokep_work> Eventually. :P
22:30:08 <flo> I'm not sure if I should try bug 1021 myself or just decide that it will wait
22:30:11 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1021 maj, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Replace unsupported libpurple QQ with libqq-pidgin
22:30:48 <flo> it really sucks, but it's not like if it was a real regression, as it hasn't ever really worked right in 1.0
22:30:57 <clokep_work> It's bad to ship somethign we know definitely doesn't work though. :-/
22:30:57 <clokep_work> I don't remember how bad the errors looked when I loaded it up.
22:32:19 <clokep_work> True.
22:32:43 <clokep_work> Would it be better to not build it until we have a working version?
22:33:04 <clokep_work> (Just remove it from the libpurple makefile)
22:39:12 <flo> no idea
22:39:30 <flo> I don't feel very good either about all the protocol plugins that we have never been able to test ;)
22:40:05 <flo> hmm, that's probably only GroupWise actually that we have never tested
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23:00:05 <clokep_work> flo: Sorry about leaving, had to get a boarding pass. ;)
23:00:14 <flo> np
23:00:24 <clokep_work> Sametime has only been partially tested too.
23:00:35 <clokep_work> Although we've been told it works. :-D
23:00:39 <flo> we know from at least 2 people that it works
23:00:45 <flo> except it's not possible to accept chat invitation
23:01:00 <flo> (do we want to accept them by default for 1.1, with a pref to disable that behavior?)
23:03:04 <clokep_work> I don't know. :-/ Maybe?
23:03:26 <flo> I would take it.
23:07:48 <flo> Good night (for real this time ;))
23:11:29 <clokep_work> Goodnight! :)
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23:30:42 <clokep_work> We should post / request/ etc. etc. about getting the Ubuntu repo updated I think. :-/ Maybe someone will step up?
23:32:09 <hicham> someone of the two ubuntu devs in here I think ;)
23:32:41 <clokep_work> chrisccoulson_ used to do it but I believe doesn't have time anymore.
23:33:43 <hicham> micahg can help with that too
23:38:17 <hicham> or simply open up a bug at launchpad
23:40:06 <clokep_work> Launchpad is really difficult to use. :P
23:40:07 <clokep_work> I don't really understand it at all.
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23:41:44 * flo thinks (while sleeping) that this mac build failure is quite unfortunate, and that making moz7 build for ppc sounds painful (there are patches for it at http://code.google.com/p/tenfourfox/, but  325 files changed, 29854 insertions(+), 815 deletions(-) is definitely scary :-()
23:43:49 <clokep_work> I think they have jemalloc building for it, which is a lot of the insertions.
23:45:01 <flo> clokep_work: http://pastebin.instantbird.com/968
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23:46:30 <clokep_work> Yes, that is a lot of changes. :(
23:46:31 <clokep_work> And you should go to bed. :P
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23:48:39 <flo> the alternative is to buy a mac intel for buildbot
23:49:04 <flo> either buy a used one
23:49:24 <flo> or bring one back from the US the next time I go there
23:49:46 <flo> (they are 20% cheaper in the US)
23:50:08 <clokep_work> Ah, that's a big difference. If I happen to be coming to France anytime soon I'll bring one over for you. :P
23:50:10 <flo> well, "cheap" is still a very relative notion for macs :-D
23:50:42 <flo> I'll go to mountain view for the google summer of code mentor summit in ~1 month
23:51:03 <clokep_work> Ah, nice. :)
23:51:32 <flo> (and the plane ticket costs more than a brand new mac mini bought here ;))
23:51:35 <clokep_work> Ah time to go, goodnight.
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23:52:02 <flo> yeah, I'll go to bed (less happily now that I know I won't have a mac nightly tomorrow) :-()
23:54:46 <flo> pff, windows doesn't build either :(. Sounds more fixable though, as it's in our code.