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00:00:36 <clokep> Yup. 00:00:45 <clokep> Haha it rejected my gmail email address. 00:01:17 <flo> how come? 00:02:12 <clokep> It asked for a "business" address. 00:02:19 * clokep used the instantbird.org alias. 00:02:41 <flo> ahah, maybe jetable.org is my company then :) 00:03:33 <flo> "Welcome. Your Lotus Greenhouse Key Is Here." 00:04:29 <clokep> I see. 00:05:28 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com set the Resolution field on bug 880 to WORKSFORME. 00:05:40 --> instantbot has joined #instantbird 00:05:40 topic changed by sand.mozilla.org to "Ask questions about Instantbird (http://www.instantbird.com) here|Get Instantbird 1.0 while it's hot! :) |News: http://blog.instantbird.org/ |Nightlies: http://nightly.instantbird.im/ (testing purpose only) |IRC logs: http://log.bezut.info/ |Pastebin: http://pastebin.instantbird.org/" 00:05:40 * ChanServ sets mode +v instantbot 00:05:52 * clokep broke instantbot. 00:07:25 <flo> now I get disconnected with a "Version mismatch" error 00:07:35 <flo> instantbot: bug 880 00:07:44 --> instantbot has joined #instantbird 00:07:44 topic changed by concrete.mozilla.org to "Ask questions about Instantbird (http://www.instantbird.com) here|Get Instantbird 1.0 while it's hot! :) |News: http://blog.instantbird.org/ |Nightlies: http://nightly.instantbird.im/ (testing purpose only) |IRC logs: http://log.bezut.info/ |Pastebin: http://pastebin.instantbird.org/" 00:07:44 * ChanServ sets mode +v instantbot 00:07:47 <flo> instantbot: bug 880 00:07:53 --> instantbot has joined #instantbird 00:07:53 topic changed by concrete.mozilla.org to "Ask questions about Instantbird (http://www.instantbird.com) here|Get Instantbird 1.0 while it's hot! :) |News: http://blog.instantbird.org/ |Nightlies: http://nightly.instantbird.im/ (testing purpose only) |IRC logs: http://log.bezut.info/ |Pastebin: http://pastebin.instantbird.org/" 00:07:53 * ChanServ sets mode +v instantbot 00:07:57 <flo> instantbot: bug 881 00:08:00 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=881 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, FAQ page not found 00:08:07 <flo> he doesn't like that bug :-D 00:10:21 <clokep> Hah, weird. 00:10:33 <clokep> flo: Some servers can force certain versions. 00:10:53 <flo> so that server doesn't help? 00:10:59 <flo> or our code is way too old? 00:11:35 <clokep> That server doesn't help cause they don't want you to connect with old clients it seems. 00:11:53 <flo> I've uploaded the converted translation files at http://queze.net/goinfre/l10n/libpurple-2.9.0-with-sametime/ 00:12:29 <clokep> :) 00:12:52 <flo> ok, ready to commit then ^^ 00:13:12 <clokep> Was just told this by a friend: "I like the little bubble next to peoples names. start a conversation? why yes instantbird i think i will" 00:13:15 <clokep> :) 00:14:00 <flo> "why yes instantbird i think i will" is it expected that I don't understand that part? 00:14:51 <-- sabret00the has quit (Connection timed out) 00:14:58 <clokep> Oh, he's talking to Instantbird and has bad grammar... 00:15:16 <clokep> "Why yes, Instantbird, I think I will [start a conversation]." 00:15:29 <clokep> Appreciating the suggestion of the chat bubbles. 00:15:30 --> sabret00the has joined #instantbird 00:16:05 <-- vicnet has quit (Ping timeout) 00:16:23 <-- myk1 has quit (Ping timeout) 00:21:35 <-- EionRobb has quit (Connection reset by peer) 00:22:04 --> EionRobb has joined #instantbird 00:22:57 <flo> Mook_as: mousethrough=never works! thanks! :) 00:23:05 <Mook_as> yay! you're welcome! 00:23:16 <Mook_as> (I lerarned that, IIRC, from songbird) 00:23:38 <Mook_as> sadly, I did not appear to learn how to spell "learned". :p 00:24:34 <flo> learnt? :) 00:27:04 <instantbot> florian@instantbird.org granted review for attachment 796 on bug 102. 00:27:06 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=102 enh, --, ---, clokep, ASSI, (Re-)Add support for the Sametime protocol. 00:27:18 <clokep> :) 00:28:30 * flo pushes 00:28:52 <flo> "added 11 changesets with 74 changes to 64 files" 00:30:48 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com added attachment 798 to bug 902. 00:30:49 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com requested review from florian@instantbird .org for attachment 798 on bug 902. 00:30:51 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=902 min, --, ---, clokep, ASSI, Could not read chrome manifest file '[...]\extensions\{972ce4c6-7e08-4474-a285-3208198ce6fd}\chrome. 00:31:18 <instantbot> florian@instantbird.org set the Resolution field on bug 991 to FIXED. 00:31:24 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=991 enh, --, 1.1a1, florian, RESO FIXED, Show status icon for hidden conversations 00:32:09 <instantbot> florian@instantbird.org set the Resolution field on bug 982 to FIXED. 00:32:11 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=982 nor, --, 1.1a1, florian, RESO FIXED, Make "hidden conversation" list keyboard accessible 00:32:20 --> vicnet has joined #instantbird 00:33:20 <instantbot> florian@instantbird.org set the Resolution field on bug 988 to FIXED. 00:33:22 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=988 nor, --, 1.1a1, florian, RESO FIXED, A long list of hidden conversations can make the contacts section unusable 00:33:41 <instantbot> florian@instantbird.org set the Resolution field on bug 997 to FIXED. 00:33:48 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=997 nor, --, 1.1a1, florian, RESO FIXED, Unread message warning on quitting the program doesn't count new messages in hidden conversations 00:34:12 <instantbot> florian@instantbird.org set the Resolution field on bug 850 to FIXED. 00:34:14 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=850 nor, --, 1.1a1, clokep, RESO FIXED, Twitter should start from last known tweet 00:34:52 <instantbot> florian@instantbird.org set the Resolution field on bug 952 to FIXED. 00:34:55 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=952 enh, --, 1.1a1, mook.moz+bugs.instantbird, RESO FIXED, Account list has useless 5px padding above first item 00:35:13 <instantbot> florian@instantbird.org set the Resolution field on bug 102 to FIXED. 00:35:16 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=102 enh, --, 1.1a1, clokep, RESO FIXED, (Re-)Add support for the Sametime protocol. 00:35:24 <clokep> Lots of bugs fixed today. :) 00:35:59 <flo> the next nightly will be much better - if not broken of course :) 00:37:51 <-- sabret00the has quit (Connection timed out) 00:37:58 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/d4402248f382 - Florian Quèze - Bug 997 - Unread message warning on quitting the program doesn't count new messages in hidden conversations. 00:37:59 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/67064e24d53c - Florian Quèze - Reopen hidden conversations with a single click on the unread count. 00:38:00 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/dd1c41f72245 - Florian Quèze - Bug 982 - Make the 'hidden conversations' list keyboard accessible. 00:38:01 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/b129548f8f03 - Patrick Cloke - Bug 850 - Twitter should start from last known tweet, r=fqueze. 00:38:02 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/f257ef9adab9 - Florian Quèze - Bug 988 - A long list of hidden conversations can make the contacts section unusable. 00:38:03 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/2ae3a895c9fc - Mook - Bug 952 - Account list has useless 5px padding above first item, r=clokep,Mic. 00:38:04 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/c398083e6364 - Patrick Cloke - Bug 102 - (Re-)Add support for the Sametime protocol, r=fqueze. 00:38:05 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/ff9ea4ef787f - Florian Quèze - Display tooltips on conversations of the 'Hidden Conversations' list. 00:38:06 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/e99bb424fdfc - Florian Quèze - Bug 979 - part1: fix alignment of icons/labels between the 'Hidden Conversations' and the 'Contacts' sections. 00:38:07 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/202d83bf1ef2 - Florian Quèze - Show pings count for MUCs in the 'Hidden Conversations' list. 00:38:30 --> sabret00the has joined #instantbird 00:46:19 <-- Mook_as has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.87-rdmsoft [XULRunner 1.9.2.13/20101203074205]) 00:47:55 <instantbot> florian@instantbird.org denied review for attachment 798 on bug 902. 00:47:59 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=902 min, --, ---, clokep, ASSI, Could not read chrome manifest file '[...]\extensions\{972ce4c6-7e08-4474-a285-3208198ce6fd}\chrome. 00:55:48 <flo> Good night :) 00:57:15 <-- sabret00the has quit (Connection timed out) 00:58:00 --> sabret00the has joined #instantbird 01:08:49 <flo> clokep: waterfall all green, sametime built ok on all 3 OSes :) 01:09:10 <clokep> flo: Awesome, thanks. :) 01:28:54 <-- Sarafina has quit (Ping timeout) 01:29:52 <-- sabret00the has quit (Connection timed out) 01:29:52 --> Sarafina has joined #instantbird 01:30:34 --> sabret00the has joined #instantbird 01:34:42 <-- mmkmou has quit (Ping timeout) 01:37:46 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.1a1pre) 01:38:40 <-- linuxwizard has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.0) 01:52:05 <-- sabret00the has quit (Connection timed out) 01:52:34 --> sabret00the has joined #instantbird 02:13:42 <clokep> So after playing with the Twitter resolve endpoint...I was thoroughly denied access to it. :( 02:26:19 <-- sabret00the has quit (Connection timed out) 02:27:05 --> sabret00the has joined #instantbird 02:48:41 <clokep> So looking at being able to support other timeline / searches / etc. requires a pretty massive reorganization of the Twitter code I think. 02:49:02 <clokep> I want to discuss UX though (do we open a new timeline, make the one REST request and that's it, or do we somehow add it to the stream, etc.) 02:50:22 <-- sabret00the has quit (Connection timed out) 02:51:05 --> sabret00the has joined #instantbird 02:51:22 <clokep> (Note that we can only have "a few" streams open at once, so it's not an option to just open a new stream every time) 02:57:01 <-- clokep has left #instantbird () 02:59:38 --> jk1 has joined #instantbird 03:17:11 <-- sabret00the has quit (Connection timed out) 03:17:35 --> sabret00the has joined #instantbird 03:17:53 <-- jk1 has left #instantbird () 03:20:39 --> werwolf has joined #instantbird 03:21:41 --> Mook has joined #instantbird 03:35:33 <-- sabret00the has quit (Connection timed out) 03:36:05 --> sabret00the has joined #instantbird 04:09:33 <-- sabret00the has quit (Connection timed out) 04:10:05 --> sabret00the has joined #instantbird 04:18:48 <-- werwolf has quit (Ping timeout) 04:19:57 --> werwolf has joined #instantbird 04:29:32 <-- sabret00the has quit (Connection timed out) 04:30:05 --> sabret00the has joined #instantbird 04:30:37 <instantbot> New Instantbird (UI) bug 1007 filed by jahkae@gmail.com. 04:30:39 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1007 nor, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, Bubbles theme with avatar 04:34:50 <-- werwolf has quit (Quit: '< auuuuuuuuuuuuuuu) 04:49:53 <-- sabret00the has quit (Connection timed out) 04:50:35 --> sabret00the has joined #instantbird 05:19:39 <-- EionRobb has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 05:22:51 --> rikki has joined #instantbird 05:37:31 <-- sabret00the has quit (Connection timed out) 05:38:05 --> sabret00the has joined #instantbird 05:38:08 --> Nitrox has joined #instantbird 06:17:11 <-- sabret00the has quit (Connection timed out) 06:17:35 --> sabret00the has joined #instantbird 06:21:29 --> hunsly has joined #instantbird 06:34:58 --> Mook1 has joined #instantbird 06:35:07 <-- Mook has quit (Ping timeout) 06:52:31 <-- sabret00the has quit (Connection timed out) 06:53:05 --> sabret00the has joined #instantbird 06:54:50 <-- hunsly has quit (Ping timeout) 07:01:46 --> jb has joined #instantbird 07:12:35 <-- sabret00the has quit (Connection timed out) 07:13:05 --> sabret00the has joined #instantbird 07:16:08 --> waynenguyen has joined #instantbird 07:30:57 <-- sabret00the has quit (Connection timed 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#instantbird 08:35:43 * ChanServ sets mode +o Even 08:35:51 <-- Even has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.1a1pre) 08:35:56 --> Even has joined #instantbird 08:35:56 * ChanServ sets mode +o Even 08:37:19 --> gerard-majax has joined #instantbird 08:43:11 --> chrisccoulson has joined #instantbird 08:46:08 --> micahg has joined #instantbird 08:47:37 <-- Even has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.1a1pre) 08:47:45 --> Even has joined #instantbird 08:47:46 * ChanServ sets mode +o Even 08:49:44 --> DGMurdockIII has joined #instantbird 08:58:42 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 08:58:43 * ChanServ sets mode +h Mic 08:59:31 --> mistraven has joined #instantbird 09:09:30 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 09:16:43 <-- sabret00the has quit (Connection timed out) 09:17:24 --> sabret00the has joined #instantbird 09:17:42 <instantbot> New Instantbird (UI) bug 1008 filed by benediktp@ymail.com. 09:17:44 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1008 enh, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Change contact tooltip layout and style to match the conversation header 09:25:05 --> jk1 has joined #instantbird 09:28:02 <-- mistraven has left #instantbird () 09:31:49 <flo> ah, I thought about filing bug 1008 yesterday. Not sure if we have already discussed that in the past or if Mic just had the same idea :). 09:31:53 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1008 enh, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Change contact tooltip layout and style to match the conversation header 09:32:32 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.1a1pre) 09:32:42 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 09:33:45 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.1a1pre) 09:33:52 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 09:36:20 <flo> Skype just sent a newsletter that at the end contains: "[insert a link to the SkypeKit license agreement]" 09:46:13 <-- sabret00the has quit (Connection timed out) 09:46:31 <Mic> flo: we haven't :D 09:46:58 --> sabret00the has joined #instantbird 09:50:15 <-- DGMurdockIII has quit (Quit: get satisfied!  :: core-networks.de ««« (Gamers.IRC) »»» gamersirc.net ::) 09:57:26 <Mic> I think I haven't talked about the conversation-header-in-tab idea either 09:58:31 <Mic> It occured to me when I looked at clokep's vertical tabs: could be nice to put the icon+name and status there like we have it on the header right now 09:58:58 <Mic> The right hand side could be almost only conversation content and the tabs would be easier to distinguish since the buddy icons are there 09:59:39 <Mic> Unfocused tabs could be dimmed if the icons turn out to be too obtrusive? 10:01:36 * gerard-majax is now known as Paul_et_Mickey 10:01:53 * Paul_et_Mickey is now known as gerard-majax 10:12:27 <-- sabret00the has quit (Connection timed out) 10:13:01 --> sabret00the has joined #instantbird 10:14:10 --> hunsly has joined #instantbird 10:14:30 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 10:14:30 * ChanServ sets mode +h clokep 10:14:54 <-- clokep has left #instantbird () 10:14:57 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 10:14:57 * ChanServ sets mode +h clokep 10:16:33 <-- clokep has left #instantbird () 10:16:43 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 10:16:43 * ChanServ sets mode +h clokep 10:20:53 * clokep likes that idea but is confused how that has to do w/ Vertical Tabs. ;) 10:23:44 <Mic> The tabs will be taller then. The one thing that looks strange about vertical tabs is that they're connected at like 20 pixels with the conversation area. 10:25:08 <Mic> (that's all only my own opinion of course) 10:26:49 <-- flo has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.1a1pre) 10:26:52 <Mic> Admit it, they look like they could tear off if you click them too hard ;) 10:26:59 <clokep> I thought it was about the tooltip? :-S 10:27:02 --> flo has joined #instantbird 10:27:03 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo flo 10:27:09 <clokep> And yes, I know it's strange how small they connect. :) 10:27:28 <Mic> The tooltip was a different thing 10:28:04 * flo is more interested by the "better tooltips" idea :) 10:28:25 <clokep> Ah, two different ideas...makes sense now. :-D 10:28:40 <clokep> Yeah unfortunately...the point of Vertical tabs is that they connect for only twenty pixels. ;) 10:28:43 <clokep> Lets you fit more of them. 10:28:56 <clokep> deOmega had the idea of just showing the avatar though as a tab. 10:29:11 <flo> clokep: I liked vertical tabs when you forgot the max-height CSS attribute by the way 10:29:35 <Mic> Was that when they took all available space? 10:29:40 <flo> yes 10:29:45 <-- flo has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.1a1pre) 10:29:55 --> flo has joined #instantbird 10:29:55 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo flo 10:30:13 <Mic> The gradient was awful then, iirc 10:30:53 <flo> but I believe most users don't need to have more than 3-5 conversations visible at the same time. Hidden conversations should be fine to handle the remaining conversations :). 10:32:25 <clokep> I agree flo. :) 10:32:28 <-- sabret00the has quit (Connection timed out) 10:33:07 --> sabret00the has joined #instantbird 10:33:15 <Mic> clokep: it would look similiar to the add-on manager tabs then 10:33:55 <Mic> both in size and layout (and imagine a second line of label for the status) 10:34:28 <Mic> oh? All my extensions are gone? :( 10:35:40 <-- jk1 has left #instantbird () 10:35:47 <Mic> All there in the profiles extension directory .. but no entries in extensions.ini :( 10:35:57 <Mic> I guess I finally managed to mess up a profile ;) 10:40:21 <-- clokep has left #instantbird () 10:40:24 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 10:40:24 * ChanServ sets mode +h clokep 10:40:26 <-- Mic has left #instantbird () 10:41:37 <clokep> Interesting some talk of merging the MUC/IM data objects for libpurple 3.0.0 10:43:03 --> The has joined #instantbird 10:43:08 <The> Awesome :) 10:44:03 <The> When I saw the "add ping-count" in the check-ins I thought we should merge the two different counts into one piece with rounded corners on the far corners 10:44:05 * The is now known as Mic 10:44:22 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.1a1pre) 10:44:25 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 10:44:25 * ChanServ sets mode +h Mic 10:45:51 <-- clokep has left #instantbird () 10:47:21 --> mmkmou has joined #instantbird 11:02:30 <-- sabret00the has quit (Connection timed out) 11:03:13 --> sabret00the has joined #instantbird 11:30:30 --> Andrey has joined #instantbird 11:33:02 <-- sabret00the has quit (Connection timed out) 11:33:50 --> sabret00the has joined #instantbird 11:33:52 <-- jb1 has quit (Ping timeout) 11:35:18 <-- Sarafina has quit (Ping timeout) 11:35:52 --> Sarafina has joined #instantbird 11:37:08 <flo> Mic: ahah :) 11:39:44 <flo> I think we will somehow need to add groups for the hidden conversations. 11:40:14 <flo> I have 13 of them now, and it's a mess. And I don't think sorting alphabetically would help much. 11:43:23 --> clokep_work has joined #instantbird 11:43:23 * ChanServ sets mode +h clokep_work 11:44:08 <clokep_work> Would sorting them alphabetically by network help then? :P 11:44:22 <clokep_work> Also, is there a localization list I should be emailing or is instantbird-contact enough? 12:03:20 <-- Mic has quit (Ping timeout) 12:04:47 <-- sabret00the has quit (Connection timed out) 12:05:31 --> sabret00the has joined #instantbird 12:15:51 <-- mmkmou has quit (Ping timeout) 12:17:22 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 12:17:22 * ChanServ sets mode +h Mic 12:23:34 <Mic> Have you tried sorting them alphabetically already, flo? 12:24:26 <flo> no 12:24:48 <flo> clokep_work: there's no list unfortunately, and most localizers aren't on the contact mailing list 12:25:00 <Mic> This might be strange but when looking for false positives in my spam folder, I sort it alphabetically first. 12:25:33 <Mic> Feels easier and faster (I never actually timed it;) 12:27:45 <flo> arg, opening a hidden conversation with a single click on the unread count doesn't focus the conv window correctly. It seems the mouseup event focuses back the Contacts window 12:28:11 <flo> it's strange that the same issue doesn't exist with the chat bubble to start a conversation 12:30:36 <Mic> Clicking the unread count worked just fine for me (it opened a new window and the contact list didn't come to top (they were overlapping)) 12:30:39 * clokep_work was going to send http://pastebin.instantbird.com/931 to instantbird-contact if it makes sense. 12:32:35 <flo> you can send this to the contact list, yes :) 12:32:45 <flo> the second paragraph will need to be sent to translators too 12:33:03 <flo> I can give you the list of addresses I bcc'ed to my previous emails 12:33:14 <flo> that won't include the translators that we have welcomed since the 1.0 release though 12:34:01 <clokep_work> Aren't the emails on the wiki page actually? 12:35:08 <clokep_work> https://wiki.instantbird.org/Instantbird:Locales_Managers seems to have them. 12:36:07 <-- sabret00the has quit (Connection timed out) 12:36:23 --> deOomega has joined #instantbird 12:36:35 --> sabret00the has joined #instantbird 12:36:53 <-- Nitrox has quit (Connection reset by peer) 12:37:13 --> Nitrox has joined #instantbird 12:37:34 <deOomega> good day. Quick question: For the hidden coversations, it only works for groupls right now, correct? 12:39:02 <deOomega> *groups 12:39:22 --> werwolf has joined #instantbird 12:39:42 <deOomega> When i close a conversation with an individual, it is closed as opposed to hidden. 12:39:43 <clokep_work> "only works for groups"? 12:40:01 <clokep_work> Oh, you mean chats. 12:40:14 <clokep_work> If you close a IM with unread messages it also goes into the list. 12:40:15 <Mic> deOomega: MUCs always go to the list, direct messages only as long as there are unread messages 12:40:41 <deOomega> so far the only thing that shows up for me in that area is twitter 12:40:48 <deOomega> ah 12:41:24 <Mic> you can click the close button of this channel and won't lose it 12:41:57 <deOomega> hmm, interesting flo: correct, this is teh only time I launch irc on IB, so did not test this channel 12:44:00 <deOomega> So basically, I think my problem then will be related to a fix clokep may be doing for vertical tabs: I cannot close a tab without selecting it and selecting it makes it read. (remember that the close button on vertical tabs do not show up unless you switch to teh tab) 12:44:44 <deOomega> Very nice feature.. teh hidden conversation tab, and I look forward to when it can be teh default behaviour for certain contacts as well as the conversations stay hidden even on restart of IB. 12:44:48 <deOomega> Thank you 12:46:06 <deOomega> The older i get the more i seem to write like Yoda, without the wisdom :) 12:46:26 <flo> clokep_work: some locales have more than one localizer 12:46:43 <flo> and you don't have the email for the nl locale on that page 12:46:44 <clokep_work> flo; Ah, OK. Then the list may be helpful. :) 12:46:57 <clokep_work> deOomega: Yes...I still haven't fixed that. :-[ 12:47:07 <clokep_work> You can middle click though. ;) 12:48:16 <flo> deOomega: you can middle click (as clokep just said) or use the context menu (Hi! by the way :)) 12:49:20 <deOomega> ah! teh context menu! I did not know it worked there. I thought it would still select the tab 12:49:27 <deOomega> Thank you. that resolves that 12:50:02 <deOomega> (Somehow I feel I have tried it before, but obviously not) 12:51:07 <deOomega> OK, have a great day and I wish you guys much success as usual. 12:51:31 <clokep_work> Feel free to keep poking me about that issue btw. ALthough I feel like I looked at it briefly and it wasn't obvious. 12:52:24 * clokep_work is now known as clokep_meeting 12:52:51 <deOomega> I am getting like 'developers now' :).. I have a workaround, so it is no longer an issue for me :( 12:52:59 <deOomega> So i will forget it 12:54:08 <-- deOomega has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.1a1pre) 12:58:10 <-- sabret00the has quit (Connection timed out) 12:58:39 --> sabret00the has joined #instantbird 13:07:11 --> deOomega has joined #instantbird 13:08:34 <deOomega> filing bugs is not really designed for addons, correct? I was going to file abug for the vertical tabs feature, but not sure we do that 13:10:17 <deOomega> I will read log for a response. have a great day guys. I am so easily distracted these days. vacation is needed. 13:11:34 <-- deOomega has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.1a1pre) 13:20:09 <Mic> Interesting choice of name? http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/ident?i=kungFuDeathGrip 13:25:30 --> jb has joined #instantbird 13:26:28 <-- sabret00the has quit (Connection timed out) 13:27:10 --> sabret00the has joined #instantbird 14:01:00 --> ecaron has joined #instantbird 14:02:31 <-- sabret00the has quit (Connection timed out) 14:03:18 --> sabret00the has joined #instantbird 14:10:03 --> gmoro_ has joined #instantbird 14:11:22 <-- gmoro_ has quit (Quit: Leaving) 14:11:28 --> gmoro_ has joined #instantbird 14:20:18 <-- jb has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.0) 14:22:17 <-- sabret00the has quit (Connection timed out) 14:22:50 --> sabret00the has joined #instantbird 14:32:13 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.1a1pre) 14:47:39 <-- werwolf has quit (Quit: '< auuuuuuuuuuuuuuu) 14:49:49 <instantbot> New Instantbird (UI) bug 1009 filed by jahkae@gmail.com. 14:49:51 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1009 nor, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, close button on hover on vertical tabs. 15:14:31 <-- sabret00the has quit (Connection timed out) 15:15:17 --> sabret00the has joined #instantbird 15:19:00 <-- hunsly has quit (Ping timeout) 15:28:55 --> Nitrox_ has joined #instantbird 15:28:58 <-- Nitrox has quit (Ping timeout) 15:29:23 <-- ecaron has quit (Ping timeout) 15:29:38 --> Nitrox__ has joined #instantbird 15:30:52 <-- Nitrox_ has quit (Ping timeout) 15:33:06 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com set the Resolution field on bug 1009 to INVALID. 15:33:09 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1009 nor, --, ---, nobody, RESO INVALID, close button on hover on vertical tabs. 15:33:22 * clokep_meeting is now known as clokep_work 15:37:04 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 15:37:04 * ChanServ sets mode +h Mic 15:37:21 --> ecaron has joined #instantbird 15:37:39 <clokep_work> RESOLVED INVALID is so harsh. :( 15:40:50 <-- sabret00the has quit (Connection timed out) 15:40:50 <-- ecaron has quit (Connection reset by peer) 15:41:23 --> ecaron has joined #instantbird 15:41:23 --> sabret00the has joined #instantbird 15:56:05 --> hunsly has joined #instantbird 15:58:52 <aleth> clokep_work: reminds me of Gattaca ;) 16:00:33 <aleth> hey, hidden convos now with tooltips! :) 16:03:18 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.1a1pre) 16:04:18 <clokep_work> Ah, I forgot to check that. :( 16:06:35 --> Mook_as has joined #instantbird 16:06:51 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 16:06:51 * ChanServ sets mode +h Mic 16:08:15 --> myk1 has joined #instantbird 16:09:05 <-- sabret00the has quit (Connection timed out) 16:09:32 --> sabret00the has joined #instantbird 16:15:28 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.1a1pre) 16:15:58 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 16:15:59 * ChanServ sets mode +h Mic 16:20:02 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.1a1pre) 16:25:17 <-- Even has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.1a1pre) 16:26:56 <-- sabret00the has quit (Connection timed out) 16:27:33 --> sabret00the has joined #instantbird 16:46:23 <-- sabret00the has quit (Connection timed out) 16:47:04 --> sabret00the has joined #instantbird 16:54:00 --> jb has joined #instantbird 16:54:41 <-- waynenguyen has quit (Ping timeout) 16:55:27 <-- gerard-majax has quit (Ping timeout) 16:56:22 --> igorko has joined #instantbird 16:56:24 --> waynenguyen has joined #instantbird 17:04:49 --> waynenguyen1 has joined #instantbird 17:05:00 <-- waynenguyen has quit (Ping timeout) 17:14:21 <-- sabret00the has quit (Connection timed out) 17:15:06 --> sabret00the has joined #instantbird 17:22:21 <-- Andrey has quit (Quit: ) 17:32:55 --> gerard-majax has joined #instantbird 17:36:21 <-- sabret00the has quit (Connection timed out) 17:37:07 --> sabret00the has joined #instantbird 17:45:50 <-- Tonnes has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.87 [Firefox 6.0/20110811165603]) 17:51:43 <clokep_work> flo: So bug 902 has me a bit stumped now since the original syntax seems like it should work, but it didn't work without my changes to the $(FILES) variable. 17:51:46 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=902 min, --, ---, clokep, ASSI, Could not read chrome manifest file '[...]\extensions\{972ce4c6-7e08-4474-a285-3208198ce6fd}\chrome. 17:56:17 <Mook_as> is it looking in CWD instead of where chrome.manifest is generated? 17:58:01 <flo> the change seems to be adding double quotes around the file names 17:58:24 <flo> maybe some characters would need some escaping without that? 17:58:33 <flo> I don't really know what happens, I would need to test it to know better ;) 17:58:58 <clokep_work> Alright. There shouldn't be anything that needs escaping, it's all simple ASCII. 17:59:36 <clokep_work> And chrome.manifest is an empty file that I added to the folder, so it should actually be in the CWD, install.rdf, however, is not in the CWD and seems to be generated somewhere. 18:01:21 <-- sabret00the has quit (Connection timed out) 18:02:09 --> sabret00the has joined #instantbird 18:02:41 <clokep_work> Alright, well...not a big deal. :) Was just trying to knock out easy bugs. 18:03:28 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 18:13:10 <-- hunsly has quit (Ping timeout) 18:17:56 --> Tonnes has joined #instantbird 18:22:04 <-- sabret00the has quit (Connection timed out) 18:22:44 <-- Nitrox__ has quit (Ping timeout) 18:22:44 --> sabret00the has joined #instantbird 18:24:48 --> Nitrox has joined #instantbird 18:26:09 --> mmkmou has joined #instantbird 18:30:49 --> linuxwizard has joined #instantbird 18:39:26 <flo> clokep_work: apparently using $^ does some magic. It converts the relative path into the absolute srcdir path of the file (which doesn't exist in the obj-dir as that file isn't preprocessed) 18:43:26 <clokep_work> Interesting. 18:44:20 <-- sabret00the has quit (Connection timed out) 18:44:48 --> sabret00the has joined #instantbird 18:44:49 <clokep_work> Does that mean we can make the change or would you prefer some other solution? 18:47:54 <clokep_work> Ah OK. :) Got the bug change. 18:48:08 <clokep_work> Question: Where do you find things about makefile syntax? It's really hard to like google for "$^" :P 18:52:10 <aleth> clokep_work: https://www.gnu.org/software/make/manual/make.html 18:53:58 <aleth> (I like singlepage for better searchability) 18:54:09 <clokep_work> aleth: Is that the same syntax for the Makefile.in stuff that we use? :P 18:54:21 <clokep_work> I dislike that that is 1000 pages long. 18:54:43 <aleth> :o well I would not know that... 18:55:26 <Mook_as> https://www.gnu.org/software/make/manual/html_node/Name-Index.html#Name-Index is a useful list (try the Automatic Variables page) 18:55:29 <aleth> but typing "$^" in Firefox certainly gets you there in a flash 18:55:41 <Mook_as> I usually use `info make` and search for it there 18:56:23 <Mook_as> and yeah, Makefile.in (in the Mozilla case) is just normal GNU Make with @srcdir@ and friends replaced 18:57:57 <clokep_work> Hmm...I see. 18:59:31 <clokep_work> I think my problem is just that there's too much syntax in make. 18:59:34 <aleth> clokep_work: there is also a multi-page version of course if you prefer, but why worry about 1000 pages if you aren't going to print it? 18:59:46 <aleth> and the syntax is arcane... 19:01:00 <Mook_as> aleth: for me, mostly because my browser is stupid and loading the full page slows things down :( 19:01:19 <clokep_work> aleth: My point being that you shouldn't need 1000 pages to describe a tool that is used to compile other programming langauges, I don't care how long the actual webpage is (and I know I can just search for a string on the page). 19:01:26 <clokep_work> My problem isn'tw ith the page, it's with the language. :P 19:01:27 <aleth> clokep_work: I wholeheartedly concur 19:01:44 <clokep_work> (But thanks for not linking me to a man page. :-D) 19:01:51 <aleth> lol 19:02:17 <Mook_as> clokep_work: that _was_ the man page... it even says "manual" ;) 19:04:24 <aleth> I believe you can even potentiate the complexification by including bash scripts in makefiles 19:06:13 <clokep_work> Mook_as: Yeah, but at least it wasn't just a plaintext representation. ;) 19:06:56 <clokep_work> aleth: Yeah, I think you can use it to call whatever pretty much, which is powerful, but complicated. :) 19:06:56 <Mook_as> yeah, I've done... evil things like that before. from experience: that should be avoided. 19:07:00 <aleth> The man page for make on my system is only 200-odd lines 19:07:33 <aleth> Thankfully 19:07:42 <Mook_as> man make != info make :) 19:08:13 <aleth> Mook_as: yup :) 19:09:04 <aleth> I suppose you could grep it... 19:09:12 <-- sabret00the has quit (Connection timed out) 19:09:36 <aleth> otherwise it's a terrible format for reading 19:09:52 --> sabret00the has joined #instantbird 19:10:01 * clokep_work wonders if there's a grep for Firefox... 19:10:29 <aleth> I think there are regexp add-ons 19:10:34 <Mook_as> /FindBar/ ? it probably doesn't work anymore though 19:10:49 <clokep_work> I used to have /FindBar/, but it hasn't worked since like Firefox 3. :P 19:11:16 <clokep_work> Whihc is unfortunate as it was super helpful. :( 19:13:02 <aleth> oh yea it's dead :( 19:14:31 <aleth> maybe this one? https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/html-regex-data-extractor/ 19:15:18 <clokep_work> Yeah it was a Mossop extension: http://www.oxymoronical.com/web/firefox/FindBarRX 19:15:33 * clokep_work wonders how difficult it would be to revive... 19:17:41 <clokep_work> That can go on top of my "Firefox extensions I'll never actually make" pile. ;) 19:29:12 <-- sabret00the has quit (Connection timed out) 19:29:52 --> sabret00the has joined #instantbird 19:34:53 <-- waynenguyen1 has quit (Ping timeout) 19:44:05 --> DGMurdockIII has joined #instantbird 19:48:29 <-- sabret00the has quit (Connection timed out) 19:48:52 --> sabret00the has joined #instantbird 19:49:26 <-- mmkmou has quit (Ping timeout) 20:06:26 <-- sabret00the has quit (Connection timed out) 20:06:53 --> sabret00the has joined #instantbird 20:13:25 <-- igorko has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.0) 20:25:48 <-- clokep_work has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 20:26:26 <-- sabret00the has quit (Connection timed out) 20:26:53 --> sabret00the has joined #instantbird 20:29:01 --> EionRobb has joined #instantbird 20:33:57 --> hunsly has joined #instantbird 20:43:32 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 20:43:32 * ChanServ sets mode +h Mic 20:45:24 <Mic> instantbot: did I miss anything here? 20:45:27 <instantbot> Mic: Sorry, I've no idea what 'did I miss anything here' might be. 20:52:56 <-- Nitrox has quit (Quit: Connection to internet lost) 20:54:38 <-- chrisccoulson has quit (Ping timeout) 20:55:37 <-- flo has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.1a1pre) 20:56:00 --> flo has joined #instantbird 20:56:00 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo flo 21:05:35 --> chrisccoulson has joined #instantbird 21:07:25 <-- sabret00the has quit (Connection timed out) 21:08:00 --> sabret00the has joined #instantbird 21:10:05 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 21:10:05 * ChanServ sets mode +h clokep 21:16:31 <-- gmoro_ has quit (Quit: Leaving) 21:17:26 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com added attachment 799 to bug 902. 21:17:27 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com requested review from florian@instantbird .org for attachment 799 on bug 902. 21:17:28 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=902 min, --, ---, clokep, ASSI, Could not read chrome manifest file '[...]\extensions\{972ce4c6-7e08-4474-a285-3208198ce6fd}\chrome. 21:18:17 <-- vicnet has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.0) 21:20:25 <aleth> mic: re the problem of adding a separator between context and normal bubbles: I had an idea, not sure how it would work - can the svg filter also change the background brightness a little *behind* the context bubbles? This might provide a neat unobtrusive visual separator 21:22:06 <Mic> I don't think so .. but let me look up some proof for that first 21:22:46 <flo> we could maybe put a shadow? 21:23:07 <flo> I'm not sure I would like it though 21:23:16 <clokep> Hey could someone ping me in a second? I want to see how it looks on the contact list. 21:23:18 <clokep> Thanks. :) 21:23:26 <aleth> flo: am not sure how it would look exactly 21:23:47 <flo> clokep: sure :) 21:23:53 <Mic> clokep: ping 21:23:56 <aleth> but it's pretty minimal. Ideal would be restarting the gradient I suppose 21:23:59 <clokep> Ah, it refocuses I see. 21:24:14 <clokep> Thanks. :) 21:24:33 <flo> aleth: that would be nice :) 21:24:38 <aleth> It should be subtle :) 21:24:59 <flo> I've absolutely no idea of how we could do it though 21:25:20 <aleth> Nor do I. Should finally learn some CSS I suppose 21:25:47 <clokep> CSS is rather easy to learn. :) 21:26:00 <-- sabret00the has quit (Connection timed out) 21:26:17 <flo> err, yeah it's easy to learn. Not really to master though ;) 21:26:27 <Mic> hehe, I think it's harder to know what can be done and what can't ;) 21:26:32 --> sabret00the has joined #instantbird 21:26:46 <clokep> aleth did say "learn" not "master"! :) 21:26:58 <flo> I know :) 21:27:22 <clokep> Bug 800 would be a good easier bug to look at. ;) 21:27:24 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=800 enh, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Tab style for message notifications could be better. 21:27:31 <clokep> (OK, probably not actually that easy, but still...) 21:28:19 <Mic> aleth: I don't think darkening the background behind bubbles is possible 21:28:47 <Mic> Or is there a way to affect the space inside the margin area of an element? 21:28:52 <flo> probably not easy at all. The difficult part being getting people to agree on a proposal :) 21:29:39 <aleth> How about the gradient thing? Making a two-part page? 21:30:11 <aleth> (in a way that themes that don't support it ignore.. tricky I guess) 21:31:53 <Mook_as> -moz-element() may be useful for you here? 21:31:56 <clokep> How about...just merging the bubbles and /not/ making it a context message? 21:33:51 <aleth> clokep: The problem is that while context bubbles as a whole look visually differentiated, because of the multiple colours it is less immediate to pick out the exact divding line between context and new, which is what one is looking for 21:34:04 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.1a1pre) 21:34:13 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 21:34:13 * ChanServ sets mode +h Mic 21:34:19 <clokep> Ah I see. 21:34:57 <Mic> ORLY? (I needed some text here;) 21:35:26 <Mic> hmm .. 21:36:16 <-- hunsly has quit (Ping timeout) 21:37:04 --> vicnet has joined #instantbird 21:37:17 --> hunsly has joined #instantbird 21:48:18 <-- sabret00the has quit (Connection timed out) 21:49:05 --> sabret00the has joined #instantbird 21:53:01 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.1a1pre) 21:54:34 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 21:54:34 * ChanServ sets mode +h Mic 22:01:36 * flo wonders what Mic's screenshot will show 22:01:58 * Mic wonders which screenshot flo is talking about. 22:02:43 <flo> the one for which you needed some text 22:05:15 <Mic> Nothing yet. It doesn't work so far. :( 22:10:51 <clokep> Fixed my broken SSL support. :-D 22:14:40 <-- clokep has left #instantbird () 22:14:43 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 22:14:43 * ChanServ sets mode +h clokep 22:16:00 <clokep> flo: My message list comes up fast on #ubuntu btw. 22:16:23 <-- sabret00the has quit (Connection timed out) 22:16:28 <clokep> Uhh....I just /part ed#ubuntu...but it went to my hidden conversation list when I closed it. :( 22:17:09 --> sabret00the has joined #instantbird 22:17:20 <flo> you probably have a bug in the |left| getter 22:18:32 <clokep> |left| getter...? 22:18:54 <clokep> It parts fine and says I left the room. 22:19:03 <flo> http://lxr.instantbird.org/instantbird/source/purple/purplexpcom/public/purpleIConversation.idl#139 22:19:16 <clokep> Ah, I see. 22:19:19 <clokep> Is that new? :) 22:19:24 <flo> http://lxr.instantbird.org/instantbird/source/purple/purplexpcom/src/jsProtoHelper.jsm#461 22:19:28 <flo> no 22:19:36 <flo> but you need to override it 22:20:24 <-- ecaron has left #instantbird () 22:20:45 <clokep> Hm. OK. 22:21:43 <-- micahg has quit (Ping timeout) 22:28:30 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.1a1pre) 22:28:43 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 22:28:44 * ChanServ sets mode +h Mic 22:30:49 --> mistraven has joined #instantbird 22:30:53 <-- mistraven has left #instantbird () 22:32:36 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.1a1pre) 22:32:47 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 22:32:47 * ChanServ sets mode +h Mic 22:37:18 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.1a1pre) 22:37:27 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 22:37:27 * ChanServ sets mode +h Mic 22:37:40 <Mic> Can someone say something please? :) 22:38:59 <flo> yes 22:39:44 --> micahg has joined #instantbird 22:39:58 <aleth> whoa #instantbird hidden convo now takes almost a second to restore 22:40:23 <aleth> getting quite long... 22:43:54 <Mic> aleth: are you using the Bubbles messagestyle ? 22:45:00 <-- sabret00the has quit (Connection timed out) 22:45:42 --> sabret00the has joined #instantbird 22:47:02 <flo> Good night 22:47:54 <Mic> Good night 22:49:57 <Mic> This is ugly and breaks with system messages/events but here is it anyways: http://img829.imageshack.us/img829/4220/newmessageseparator.png 22:50:14 <Mic> Works only for the Bubbles theme. 22:54:31 <aleth> mic: yes 22:58:59 <Mic> Good night 23:00:07 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.1a1pre) 23:02:31 <clokep> Idk about that one Mic. :-/ 23:08:27 <-- sabret00the has quit (Connection timed out) 23:09:13 --> sabret00the has joined #instantbird 23:10:01 <aleth> He did say it was ugly :| 23:14:51 <instantbot> New Instantbird (UI) bug 1010 filed by aletheia2@fastmail.fm. 23:14:53 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1010 enh, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, Add a way to show full-size version of buddy avatar images 23:27:35 <-- sabret00the has quit (Connection timed out) 23:28:17 --> sabret00the has joined #instantbird 23:48:20 <-- sabret00the has quit (Connection timed out) 23:48:47 --> sabret00the has joined #instantbird 23:53:03 <clokep> Yeah, #developers with 106 message just took a wihle to show up. :( 23:57:47 <-- myk1 has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.0)