#instantbird log on 08 27 2011

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00:36:31 <instantbot> florian@instantbird.org set the Resolution field on bug 993 to FIXED.
00:36:33 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=993 nor, --, 1.1a1, florian, RESO FIXED, Hidden conversation unread messages look like restored messages
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00:39:05 <instantbot> florian@instantbird.org set the Resolution field on bug 994 to FIXED.
00:39:07 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=994 enh, --, 1.1a1, benediktp, RESO FIXED, Desaturate context messages in the Bubbles messagestyle
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00:41:38 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/b2ef81ce557f - Florian Quèze - Bug 993 - Hidden conversation unread messages look like restored messages.
00:41:39 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/47d172944654 - Benedikt Pfeifer - Bug 995 - Replace Bubble fade-in animation code (javascript) with a CSS animation, r=fqueze.
00:41:40 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/1e423cc3e7f0 - Benedikt Pfeifer - Bug 994 - Desaturate context messages in the Bubbles messagestyle, r=fqueze.
00:43:30 <instantbot> florian@instantbird.org granted review for attachment 792 on bug 995.
00:43:34 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=995 enh, --, ---, benediktp, ASSI, Replace Bubble fade-in animation code (javascript) with a CSS animation
00:43:51 <instantbot> florian@instantbird.org granted review for attachment 791 on bug 994.
00:43:53 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=994 enh, --, 1.1a1, benediktp, RESO FIXED, Desaturate context messages in the Bubbles messagestyle
00:44:53 <instantbot> florian@instantbird.org set the Resolution field on bug 995 to FIXED.
00:51:50 <flo> Good night :)
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06:47:15 <Mad_Maks> does somebody know when ppa;instantbird gets updated to version 1 (now 0.3)?
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08:23:57 <Mic> Mad_Maks: what do you mean? We didn't have a 0.3 release, it became 1.0 instead.
08:28:01 <Mad_Maks> Mic:  in ubuntu it is called 0.3?? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/instantbird
08:29:09 <Mad_Maks> and if i use version 1 from the instantbird site with add-ins and then the version in ubuntu the ad-ons will be disabled
08:31:49 <Mic> We don't maintain these packages ourselves by the way, I can't tell when they'll be updated. The uploader of the package seems to be the chrisccoulson that is frequently coming to this channel, maybe you can ask next time he's here?
08:33:02 <Mic> Or wait if someone else here can answer your question ..
08:34:07 <Mad_Maks> the version on the ppa is from april while version 1 is released in june
08:34:17 <Mad_Maks> Mic:  thans
08:34:21 <Mad_Maks> +k
08:35:16 <Mic> That explains the 0.3~a1 (I'm not familiar with the naming patterns of these packages but guessed it might be our "a1"  there, which is a pre-release thing)
08:35:56 <Mad_Maks> yep
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09:11:39 <Mic> What's the expected behaviour when the computer goes to standby?
09:12:15 <Mic> Are accounts disconnected 'actively' (i.e. we tell them to do so?)
09:13:47 <Mic> We should have a quit-message on IRC instead of a timeout then, shouldn't we?
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09:34:41 <flo> Mic: "Are accounts disconnected 'actively' (i.e. we tell them to do so?)" I would like them to do so. But we currently do it only if Mozilla sends us a signal saying the network is about to go offline. On some OSes it's correctly sent before going to standby, but not everywhere I think.
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09:55:12 <Mic1> Facebook just told me that there are group chats now (I received a group chat message on their web chat)
09:56:28 <Mic1> What a pity that I wasn't signed in with Instantbird .. I'd really liked to see what that looked liek
09:56:31 <Mic1> *like
10:08:27 <Mic1> Here's an extension that logs things that might help figuring out the network problems to the error console: 
10:08:28 <Mic1> http://pastebin.instantbird.com/922
10:08:40 <Mic1> Also on AIO: https://addons.instantbird.org/en-US/instantbird/addon/300
10:15:27 <Mic1> flo: the build failed
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10:30:11 <flo> Mic: when I want to see the notifications, I use a debug build and export NSPR_LOG_MODULES=ObserverService:5 to dump all the notifications to the terminal
10:30:17 <flo> but your add-on may help others :)
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11:53:13 <Mic1> oh, really? I didn't know this was so easy ..
12:00:12 <flo> Mic1: well, getting a debug build may not be really easy, especially on Windows ;)
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12:05:13 <Mic1> bye
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12:40:27 <igorko> hey
12:41:10 <igorko> how about implemeting tomers for irc?
12:41:14 <igorko> delayed execution
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14:08:03 <clokep_mb> Re the Ubuntu builds, I believe chriscoulson said he wouldn't have time to do Instantbird anymore, but we haven't found another maintainer.
14:09:34 <clokep_mb> And the idea of doing the theme in all SVG sounds like a good one. :-D
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16:08:56 <instantbot> jahkae@gmail.com added attachment 793 to bug 824.
16:08:58 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=824 enh, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Finetune Aero theme
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18:19:50 <Mic> Has anyone tried creating a SVG smiley theme?
18:21:15 <Mook> hmm, ib trunk is currently going for gecko6, right? (trying to figure out if I can load chrome.manifest dynamically)
18:23:48 <Mic> It's using Gecko 6.0, yes.
18:24:30 <Mic> The libpurple/Gecko version numbers can be found on the About-dialog by the way
18:26:11 <Mook> oh, right, this isn't firefox being silly. thanks.
18:26:52 <Mook> I guess this thing can't be bootstrapped, then
18:27:14 <Mook> darn, I don't think I can say in install.rdf "bootstrapped only if gecko >= 8"
18:32:56 <Mic> I'm losing parts of the smileys while they display fine on the emoticon list on the Preferences/Options :( Well, beside the stupid size-problems with svg's.
18:32:58 <Mic> http://img849.imageshack.us/img849/7941/ibsvgsmileyszoom.png
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18:33:56 <Mook> which parts? some sort of missing gradient?
18:34:15 <Mook> oh, but they work elsewhere? huh.
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18:36:50 <Mic> There are gradients but they show fine on the preferences dialog
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18:43:34 <Mic> http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/3346/ibsvgsmileyszoom2.png
18:44:08 <Mic> The dialog uses xul:image tags in a richlsit item, the other is an <img> tag that uses the custom smile:// protocol for loading the image
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19:02:14 <Mic> Mook: you've got a new extension for Instantbird? Or are you trying to make one of your existing restartless?
19:02:36 <Mook> was trying to write an nsIAlertsService replacement
19:02:57 <Mook> the current implementation has... serious issues when multiple alerts pop up at the same time. (namely, CPU sucking)
19:06:03 <Mic> Alerts hiding each other when there's more than one is also a shortcoming of the existing implementation.
19:07:32 <Mic> I'm frequently running into this with Buddy Status, especially for Facebook, that seems to update user statuses in bunches and not when the user actually changes their status
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19:36:55 <igorko> Mic: dark evil smiles  :-o 
19:42:14 <Mic> Not intentionally ;)
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20:24:14 <flo> aleth: would splitting that bubble into 2 separate bubbles be a good fix for the issue? (mentioned in bug 993 comment 3)
20:24:17 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=993 nor, --, 1.1a1, florian, RESO FIXED, Hidden conversation unread messages look like restored messages
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21:26:10 <aleth> flo: sure - that sounds good.
21:26:44 <flo> wouldn't it looks odd that when closing the conversation tab and reopening it the 2 messages would then be in the same bubble again?
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21:58:49 <aleth> flo: depends on how good your visual memory is I suppose ;)
21:59:21 <aleth> Actually I was going to suggest an additional horizontal line between the already-read and the unread messages
21:59:37 <aleth> This would provide an additional visual marker, and be clearly temporary at the same time
21:59:55 <aleth> So it would be "obvious" what is cutting the bubble in two
22:17:22 <aleth> (You might also want this line in tabs that don't have focus for consistency)
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