#instantbird log on 06 16 2011

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01:24:08 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com added attachment 715 to bug 841.
01:24:09 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com requested review from florian@instantbird .org for attachment 715 on bug 841.
01:24:10 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=841 min, --, ---, clokep, ASSI, Fix Windows Jump List code
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01:34:49 <clokep> Yay! Updated my forked jsProtoHelper to the trunk. :)
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06:23:09 <Mic> Hi
06:24:32 <Mic> Mook: I'm having a problem with using a Windows API. A function takes a pointer to an array of not yet defined length of a certain type and I can't figure out how to define the variable that I need to pass.
06:24:40 <Mic> Here's what I have: http://pastebin.instantbird.com/775
06:25:08 <Mic> Maybe you have an idea?
06:27:37 <Mic> The error on the console is "expected type pointer, got <whatever-I-tried>"
06:29:27 <Mook> it takes an array of pointers?
06:29:40 <Mook> err, no, a pointer to an array?
06:30:52 <Mic> A pointer to an array, the nbOfSessions parameter will return how many elements can be found there
06:31:10 <Mic> Here's the docs: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa383833%28v=vs.85%29.aspx (parameter ppSessionInfo [out])
06:34:44 <Mook> hmm, trying to run this locally, what's serverHandle?
06:35:51 <Mook> I guess i want WTS_CURRENT_SERVER_HANDLE
06:38:14 <Mic> http://pastebin.instantbird.com/776
06:38:38 <Mic> I added some pieces (opening the library, getting server handle, closing server)
06:41:04 <Mook> okay, I'm using http://pastebin.instantbird.com/?diff=777 at the moment, doesn't work either
06:47:26 <Mook> http://pastebin.instantbird.com/778 works a bit better..
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06:53:05 <Mic> Ok, I'll try from there, thanks a lot already
06:53:22 <igorko> Mic ping
06:54:09 <igorko> what is sthe situation with buddyStatus?
06:56:28 <Mic> I want to add buddy icons on the alerts before updating it on AIO. I don't want people to try it when 0.3 comes out and stop using it because it's missing something they might want (there'll be an option to enable/disable them)
06:58:24 <Mic> Mook: examples on js ctypes are scarce and information on MDC/MDN is a bit confusing (to me), I'm all the more happy you had time to look at it :)
07:00:24 <Mook> http://pastebin.instantbird.com/779 is even closer, I need to look up how strings work
07:01:20 <Mook> ooh,   console.log(sessionArray[i].pWinStationName.readString());
07:01:38 <Mook> "Services", "Console", and "RDP-Tcp" look like reasonable strings!
07:04:31 <Mic> I'll try :) Too bad you're at the other end of the world afaik, I'd really buy you a drink ;)
07:07:46 <Mic> This is for a js-protocol that allows to send messages to Windows (Vista/7) computers btw
07:09:26 <Mic> Sending works fine already, I only didn't know which sessions there we that I could/have to send the message to
07:09:47 <Mook> this is... scary.
07:10:00 <Mook> but then anything that touches js-ctypes is scary to me.
07:10:23 <Mook> with good old c++ at least you can be sure you're trying to manage your resources correctly...
07:10:24 <instantbot> c++ is e-- ah, nevermind.
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07:29:26 <Mic> I guess it's still safer for me to try using js-ctypes than trying to code in c/c++  ;)
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07:34:57 <FeuerFliege> addons.instantbird.org doesn’t let me add descriptions for other locales.
07:38:11 <Mic> FeuerFliege: support for localization was disabled/removed iirc
07:39:14 <FeuerFliege> now i have to choose, fill the en-US description with German text or do a add-on aimed for German users without German description :-/
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07:43:49 <Mic> maybe ignore the en-US part and write whatever you like? ;)
07:51:03 <FeuerFliege> Mic: i did
07:51:53 <FeuerFliege> Mic: I don’t know if it is already visible: https://addons.instantbird.org/en-US/instantbird/addon/272/
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08:11:50 <flo> hello :)
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09:22:26 <Mic> FeuerFliege: thanks, seems to work :)
09:28:40 <instantbot> New Instantbird (UI) bug 842 filed by benediktp@ymail.com.
09:28:42 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=842 enh, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Disable sounds when screen is locked or an other user active
09:29:23 <Mic> FeuerFliege: you're really getting Instantbird ready for german-speaking users :)
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09:35:24 <igorko> flo will be smilestab implemented for 0.3 ?
09:35:40 <igorko> i'm not asking nothing more ;)
09:35:56 <flo> no. I don't know what it is, but we are not adding new features any more for 0.3
09:36:36 <igorko> smilestab = pasting smiles in text
09:36:41 <igorko> i see :(
09:36:52 <flo> what currently prevents pasting them?
09:37:21 <igorko> i mean smiles- not smiles codes
09:37:43 <igorko> panel with smiles
09:58:38 <FeuerFliege> Mic: well i do my best
10:02:01 <instantbot> benediktp@ymail.com added attachment 716 to bug 824.
10:02:02 <instantbot> benediktp@ymail.com requested review from florian@instantbird .org for attachment 716 on bug 824.
10:02:03 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=824 enh, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Finetune Aero theme
10:08:01 <igorko> flo i mean adding panel with smiles to paste smiles, not their codes
10:10:08 <instantbot> florian@instantbird.org granted review for attachment 716 on bug 824.
10:10:10 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=824 enh, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Finetune Aero theme
10:12:00 <Mic> Ah, I have screenshots for you .. :
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10:15:13 <instantbot> benediktp@ymail.com added attachment 717 to bug 824.
10:15:15 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=824 enh, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Finetune Aero theme
10:36:19 <clokep> Bah I just got the Skype Developer approval email too.
10:36:58 <sonny> by the way skypekit also necessite a binary
10:42:18 <clokep> Yup...and also doesn't support video on Mac/Windows it seems?
10:50:01 <flo> possible blog post introducing the magic copy feature: http://typewith.me/eQHSbgPpCa
10:55:10 <clokep> Made a few small changes to the end.
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10:58:45 <flo> :)
10:59:02 <flo> do you like it otherwise? (even though the screenshots are the important part :-D)
11:00:24 <clokep> It seems good for the most part yes!
11:00:32 <clokep> I hate when my friends paste stuff from Adium btw. :(
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11:05:45 <Mic> flo: you can leave bug 824 after the change, I might revisit it again after 0.3
11:05:47 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=824 enh, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Finetune Aero theme
11:06:18 <Mic> *leave [...] open
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12:06:14 <clokep_work> flo: So for bug 841, the proper thing to do is leave that file and maybe add a note saying it's unused because of stupid developers? :_D
12:06:17 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=841 min, --, ---, clokep, ASSI, Fix Windows Jump List code
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12:26:50 <flo> clokep_work: there are lots of ways to make mistakes even without stupidity involved :)
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12:31:49 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com added attachment 718 to bug 841.
12:31:51 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com cancelled review?(florian@instantbird .org) for attachment 715 on bug 841.
12:31:52 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com requested review from florian@instantbird .org for attachment 718 on bug 841.
12:31:53 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=841 min, --, ---, clokep, ASSI, Fix Windows Jump List code
12:34:05 <clokep_work> Feel free to not actually try applying that write now since the patch was made in a sketchy way, but I think I made the proper changes. :)
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12:40:16 <flo> ah, right, the file should be removed from jar.mn! :)
12:41:25 <flo> clokep_work: I look forward to see all the GetStringFromName replaced by _ once your general cleanup of jsProtoHelper is done :)
12:41:29 <clokep_work> Yup, I did that and failed to put it in my patch. :(
12:41:53 <clokep_work> flo: Throughout everything?! That'll be a lot of inclusions of jsProtoHelper. ;)
12:42:10 <flo> no, of <whatever>utils.jsm :)
12:42:28 <clokep_work> If there are other possible l10n ones we could make a l10nUtils.jsm.
12:42:57 <clokep_work> That's one of the things I want to get done soon after we release though. :)
12:43:03 <clokep_work> (Splitting jsProtoHelper I mean.)
12:43:07 <flo> http://lxr.instantbird.org/instantbird/search?string=GetStringFromNa
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12:44:32 <clokep_work> Ah, it's actually not as prevalent as I would have thought.
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12:46:29 <FeuerFliege> i stumbled upon a nasty little bug, but i don‘t know if it is already known:
12:47:12 <FeuerFliege> If you have a twitter account and start Instantbird it will open your twitter timeline
12:47:34 <FeuerFliege> but if you close the tab there is no way to reopen the timeline 
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12:48:49 <deOmega> good day.  Thanks Flo on the window size :)
12:49:13 <clokep_work> FeuerFliege:Hmm....wait until someone else tweets! :-D
12:49:23 * clokep_work wonders what a good way to do this even would be.
12:49:46 <flo> deOmega: hello :)
12:49:56 <FeuerFliege> Disconnecting and reconnecting the twitter account did not work (that is my way to trigger autojoin with IRC channels)
12:50:31 <flo> any UI suggestion to reopen it? :)
12:50:52 <clokep_work> I don't think Twitter listens to disconnect/connect events yet (we have a bug about that).
12:51:07 <clokep_work> flo: We could use the join chat menu and just not provide any parameters. :)
12:51:26 <flo> clokep_work: it does (it's the "offline" status that isn't handled), but it doesn't reopen the conversation when all the received tweets of the timelines have already known ids
12:51:32 <FeuerFliege> flo: channel-contacs ;)
12:51:42 <FeuerFliege> contacts
12:51:49 <flo> FeuerFliege: no :)
12:52:20 <clokep_work> flo: We could have a Twitter icon in the status bar that clicking it reopens the timeline. :P
12:53:02 <flo> deOmega: are the new sizes for the changes satisfying?
12:54:00 <deOmega> It really is for me. I hope it pleases the majority.. but it seems ideal to me
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12:56:27 <flo> deOmega: I played a bit with it yesterday and tried to pick values that made sense, rather than just "something to test it" as I did before ;)
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13:02:31 <deOmega> I really like it.  Thanks flo.   Any comment from me about it woudl have to be feedback from others  I hear, as opposed to myself, because I see it as ideal now.  Thank you.
13:03:18 <deOmega> And  there are none right now (And do not anticipate any)  :)
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13:06:23 <deOmega> I should really say.. perfect for me.
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13:14:56 * flo is trying to imagine a fake conversation for the screenshots of his blog post
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13:56:09 <flo> http://blog.instantbird.org/a44-introducing-magic-copy.html
13:57:50 <instantbot> Just appeared in Blog@instantbird.org - http://blog.instantbird.org/ :
13:57:51 <instantbot> http://blog.instantbird.org/n44-introducing-magic-copy.html - Introducing magic copy
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14:00:14 <Mic> Looks good :)
14:00:24 <flo> long overdue ;)
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14:34:38 <clokep_meeting> Looks great flo! :)
14:36:29 <flo> you'll be able to show your adium-user-friends how copied messages should look like ;)
14:39:39 <flo> do you think there's a way to include a "Tweet" and (Facebook) "Share" button without adding js code that would execute on our pages?
14:42:57 <clokep_meeting> Hmmmm...Tweet...I wonder if Twitter.com can take get parameters.
14:43:21 <clokep_meeting> flo: I told my friend with the bottom tabs issue that it autofocuses and that's really what he needed. (He said Adium doesn't do that for him btw.)
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14:48:24 * flo is trying trillian
14:48:40 <flo> the first thing it does is asking you for your email to create an account on their servers
14:49:23 <flo> their copy/paste is crappy, even though they don't seem to have a theme system (of if they have one, they did a great job of hiding it)
14:49:49 <clokep_meeting> I really really just hate the look of Trillian, although it's gotten better recently.
14:50:15 <flo> clokep_meeting: it you remove the protocol icons that are displayed everywhere, it's almost Instantbird ;)
14:50:21 <flo> (I'm looking at the Mac version of course)
14:50:57 <flo> their log viewer isn't really better than ours (well, they have a nice calendar instead of our crappy list of timestamps, but it's not more usable, just better looking)
14:51:32 <flo> their doesn't seem to be a way to search inside a conversation (either in the log or in the conversation window)
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14:52:07 * clokep_work doesn't understand why people love it then.
14:52:16 <flo> the account on their server seems to be an IM protocol in itself.
14:52:22 <flo> maybe we should reverse engineer it? :-P
14:52:43 <flo> clokep_work: it's possible the mac version is way behind the Windows one.
14:53:06 <flo> they have a searchbox at the bottom of the buddy list which seems to work pretty well
14:55:11 <clokep_work> A filter box on the buddy list would be pretty nice. :) We do have a bug about that!
14:55:25 <flo> they have a context menu on the user icon to remove it
14:55:27 <clokep_work> flo: I'd almost gurantee it's been reverse engineered already.
14:55:34 <flo> I think that's what we had already decided to do
14:55:54 <clokep_work> Yes, pretty much.
14:56:46 <flo> is it actually useful? (reverse engineering it)
14:57:04 <flo> if we could use that to import all the accounts automatically that would be nice (same for Digsby!)
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14:58:37 <clokep_work> flo: If you get it working well enough you could have their stupid thing that lets you start and end conversations on multiple clients, no?
14:58:49 <clokep_work> So does all network traffic go via their protocol then? And out through their servers?
14:59:14 <flo> I don't think so
15:00:13 <flo> "have their stupid thing that lets you start and end conversations on multiple clients" that's something I've wanted for a long time. The solution I had in mind for it was to setup an XMPP server on an instantbird.<something> domain and have all instantbird instances talk together to negociate which is doing what
15:01:37 <flo> things they have and we don't are: file transfer (I hope for them it actually works :)) and synchronization
15:02:11 <clokep_work> I call it "stupid" because of the way they implemented it..but I forget the specifics now. :(
15:04:25 <clokep_work> Trillian 5 looks rather nice on Windows: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Trillian_5_Screenshot.png
15:06:39 <flo> their "meta contacts" don't even group the conversations
15:07:07 <clokep_work> Just for buddy list purposes? :( Lame.
15:07:11 <flo> yes
15:07:31 * Mic wants to play with a Facebook-style online list (only displaying the buddy icons and nothing else
15:07:36 <flo> and I don't understand how one expands a meta-contact (I've somehow done it, but I don't know how, and can't find how I can close that)
15:10:24 <Mic> *user icons
15:19:07 <flo> http://twitter.com/home?status=Just%20found%20Instantbird%20http%3A%2F%2Fwww.instantbird.com%2F%20a%20cool%20messenger%20to%20use%20all%20my%20accounts%20at%20once!
15:19:11 <flo> this seems to work for twitter
15:19:27 <clokep_work> :)
15:19:40 <flo> I have a hard time finding a message that people could tweet
15:20:34 <clokep_work> "Check out Instantbird, a free open-source instant messaging application! -- http://www.instantbird.com"
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15:21:59 <clokep_work> So apparently that protocol is for the "Trillian Astra Network" which is their own IM protocol?
15:22:07 <flo> yes
15:22:20 <clokep_work> So probably not useful to us, no. :)
15:22:53 <clokep_work> Is it not just like XMPP though? That'd be silly if it wasn't.
15:23:46 <clokep_work> Could be a fun thing to reverse engineer one afternoon.
15:25:39 <flo> if it's correctly encrypted, you won't go very far
15:30:00 <clokep_work> Touche. :) I have no desire to install Trillian right now, so we'll be OK I think.
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15:35:53 <flo> https://www.facebook.com/sharer/sharer.php?u=http://www.instantbird.com/ will do for Facebook
15:39:36 <flo> http://twitter.com/share?url=http://www.instantbird.com/&text=Instantbird, free instant messaging client&related=instantbird seems better
15:41:50 <clokep_work> :)
15:42:30 <clokep_work> What about tumb.lr? ;)
15:42:35 <flo> never heard of it
15:43:06 <flo> I think we need to add back a touch of multi-protocolness on the home page
15:43:44 <flo> what about "With Instantbird, connect to:<br/><icon of each useful protocol, with its name as a tooltip>" under "Instant messenging has never been easier! Learn more."?
15:45:08 <clokep_work> "With Instantbird, connect to your <friends, colleagues, buddies> via: ..."
15:45:18 <clokep_work> But yes, I was thinking that while looking at pidgin.im the other day.
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15:46:26 <flo> is there a way to auto-detect which of "friends, colleagues, buddies" applies? :)
15:46:53 <clokep_work> Probably not, so your way might be better. ;)
15:47:10 <clokep_work> But more of the philosophy of connecting with other people better as opposed to the networks.
15:47:22 <flo> yes :)
15:47:33 <flo> friends sounds more friendly ;)
15:49:07 <clokep_work> "pals"
15:49:08 <clokep_work> :P
15:49:24 <clokep_work> You could just say "friends, colleagues and buddies"!
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15:51:10 <flo> "contacts" is the right word, but too formal :)
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16:01:52 <flo> clokep_work: patch: **** malformed patch at line 49:      // Only perform the default action (i.e. loading the buddy list) if
16:02:33 <clokep_work> flo: Yeah, I said it was kind of sketchy. :-/
16:02:47 <flo> what have you done to that poor patch?
16:02:58 <clokep_work> Edited it by hand.
16:03:11 <clokep_work> Don't bother with it. I'll get you a real patch later.
16:03:18 <flo> you should get a decent editor then :)
16:03:40 <clokep_work> It was edited in MATLAB haha.
16:03:44 <clokep_work> Did it destroy line endings?
16:03:45 <flo> my emacs automatically fixes the things related to the diff format when I edit in the middle of the file :)
16:04:02 <clokep_work> Ah, convenient. :)
16:05:06 <flo> have you edited this line after your changes: @@ -34,42 +34,33 @@ ?
16:06:13 <flo> emacs wants to fix it to @@ -34,48 +34,38 @@
16:07:06 <flo> and the next one to @@ -1,8 +0,11 @@
16:07:38 <flo> and deleted file mode 100644 needs to be removed
16:07:55 <clokep_work> I did not edit that line, no.
16:08:22 <clokep_work> The one after is definitely wrong. :(
16:08:39 <flo> err, it should be @@ -1,8 +1,11 @@ actually
16:08:45 <flo> 0 means the file is removed
16:08:50 <clokep_work> What do those numbers actually mean?
16:08:59 <clokep_work> Lines added and removed?
16:09:16 <flo> @@ -A,B +C,D @@
16:09:28 <flo> A is the line number of the first line in the hunk before the patch.
16:09:47 <flo> B is the number of lines (of the file before the patch) included in the hunk
16:09:55 <flo> C and D are the same after the patch has been applied
16:10:04 <clokep_work> Ah, I see.
16:10:53 <clokep_work> So then, yes. I destroyed that patch. :-D
16:13:50 <flo> shouldn't that file use the imStatusUtils.jsm module too?
16:13:54 <clokep_work> So nothing really in Trillian that you don't already want?
16:14:01 <clokep_work> It does?
16:14:29 <clokep_work> Wait, define "that file"?
16:14:36 <flo> to call Status.toLabel instead of taking stuff directly from the bundle
16:15:17 <clokep_work> Oh, hm. I guess we could do that.
16:15:48 <clokep_work> I'll change it when I get home...unless you want another sketchy patch. ;) Or if you just want to do it.
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16:18:01 <flo> clokep_work: http://pastebin.instantbird.com/780
16:20:17 <clokep_work> flo: Those changes look good, removing it from the jar won't mess up localizers, will it?
16:21:03 <flo> I think the folders are compared, rather than the packaged stuff
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16:21:43 <clokep_work> Ah, yes the source folders I think.
16:21:46 <clokep_work> I'll be back.
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16:27:26 <instantbot> florian@instantbird.org added attachment 719 to bug 841.
16:27:28 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=841 min, --, ---, clokep, ASSI, Fix Windows Jump List code
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16:38:08 <clokep_work> That patch looks correct flo.
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16:53:33 <flo> clokep_work: do you want to test it before putting it in the nightlies?
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16:53:41 <flo> (I'm on mac, so obviously I haven't tested it at all)
16:55:19 <clokep_work> I probably should. :)
16:55:23 <clokep_work> I can test it tonight.
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17:07:15 <sonny> http://spectrum.im/projects/spectrum/wiki/Spectrum_2
17:07:53 <clokep_work> What about it? :P
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17:23:26 <flo> I'm trying to find something to do for bug 693
17:23:29 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=693 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Copy paste failures in conversation history
17:36:42 <flo> hadn't we decided to remove the dead code related to richtext edit before the release?
17:37:50 <clokep_work> I think it was discussed and decided and never done, yes.
17:38:48 <flo> https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=634#c10 "Per discussion on IRC, this can't land until the textbox regression from bug 620 is fixed."
17:38:52 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=620 enh, --, 0.3b1, benediktp, RESO FIXED, Use Glass on Aero (Windows Vista and 7)
17:40:26 <clokep_work> Ah-ha. :)
17:43:36 <clokep_work> Btw about that...I think it's not really text or HTML mode, but we need some way to specifiy what's supported in each protocol perhaps?
17:44:55 <flo> I'm not really interested in supporting anything but bold/italic/underlined, so I suspect we can decide it's a boolean :)
17:48:38 <clokep_work> OK! :)
17:48:44 <clokep_work> Not strike through?! :P
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17:49:15 <clokep_work> Or do you mean strong/emphasis/...underlined?
17:50:18 <flo> :)
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18:03:25 <flo> so after searching for a while and failing to implement complicated solutions involving undocumented interfaces, I have a trivial 10-lines patch that seems to work!
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18:04:58 <clokep_work> For the copy & paste failures? Nice.
18:05:14 <flo> yes
18:05:32 <flo> http://pastebin.instantbird.com/781
18:07:44 <clokep_work> I have no idea why that would work, but OK! :)
18:08:02 <clokep_work> Does it only happen w/ ctrl+C btw? (Not ctrl+v, even though that doesn't make sense...)
18:08:40 <flo> I'm catching the Accel+c key event of the textbox and if the selection there is empty, I copy the browser selection
18:10:20 <clokep_work> Ohhhh. Cause it autofocuses the text box!
18:10:31 <clokep_work> Smart. :)
18:10:55 <clokep_work> Btw I thought there was an event.accelKey property?
18:11:06 <flo> no :(
18:11:06 <clokep_work> (So you wouldn't need that ifdef)
18:11:22 <flo> "accel" is defined inside <key> elements
18:11:29 <flo> not the key events
18:11:33 <clokep_work> Ah OK.
18:13:13 <clokep_work> I assume that the "c" isn't localized, right?
18:13:36 <instantbot> florian@instantbird.org set the Resolution field on bug 693 to FIXED.
18:13:38 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=693 nor, --, 0.3, florian, RESO FIXED, Copy paste failures in conversation history
18:13:43 <flo> it's not :)
18:14:04 <clokep_work> And nothing funky happens if like...caps lock is on, say?
18:14:14 <flo> I haven't tried :)
18:14:28 <flo> but Command+Shift+c focuses the contact list anyway
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18:16:35 <clokep_work> Command+shift+c isn't the same as Command+c with caps lock on though! :)
18:16:43 <clokep_work> I'll try to break it tomorrow. ;)
18:18:07 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/f83df26edc14 - Florian Quèze - Bug 634 - Remove dead code related to richtext editing in conversations.
18:18:08 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/02a3479e69ac - Florian Quèze - Bug 693 - Copy paste failures in conversation history.
18:18:09 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/b993d59aa7db - Benedikt Pfeifer - Bug 824 - Finetune Aero theme, r=fqueze.
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18:41:42 <smaug> does ib already have nickname autocomplete?
18:42:02 <DGMurdockIII> what do you mean
18:42:10 <DGMurdockIII> for irc
18:42:16 <smaug> for irc, yes
18:42:33 <DGMurdockIII> when you want to message someone
18:42:39 <smaug> er, tab expansion..or whatever it is called
18:43:08 <DGMurdockIII> if you type the first letter of the name then hit tab
18:43:09 <smaug> if I try DG and press tab, it would autocomplete to DGMurdockIII 
18:43:14 <smaug> s/try/type/
18:43:28 <DGMurdockIII> yeah
18:43:37 <DGMurdockIII> it work in instantbird
18:43:43 <smaug> ok
18:43:53 <smaug> hmm, what else was missing last time I tried it...
18:44:10 <DGMurdockIII> how long ago did you try it
18:44:12 <clokep_work> smaug: No, but there's an extension for it. I'll dig it up in a second.
18:44:43 <clokep_work> (And a bug open for it. ;))
18:44:48 <smaug> I think I tried last year...December
18:45:07 <clokep_work> smaug: https://github.com/mook/nictabam
18:45:12 <DGMurdockIII> instantbird has gotten way better since then
18:45:12 <smaug> just wondering if it was time to switch from Chatzilla to IB
18:45:21 <DGMurdockIII> so has the irc
18:45:47 <clokep_work> If you don't think it's time, we'd be interested in why you don't think that. :)
18:47:17 <DGMurdockIII> i actally think irc chat ahold not be put in tabs with im
18:47:24 <DGMurdockIII> chats
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18:48:25 <DGMurdockIII> i actally think they deserve there own tab group
18:49:49 <clokep_work> smaug: Ah actually Mook uploaded that as an XPI: https://addons.instantbird.org/en-US/instantbird/addon/264
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18:50:42 <clokep_work> flo: I guess idechix doesn't like Time Bubbles? https://addons.instantbird.org/en-US/instantbird/addon/274
18:51:45 * clokep_work thinks https://addons.instantbird.org/en-US/instantbird/addon/273 sounds interesting and could use a screenshot.
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18:57:08 <harlock> i was wondering is someone working on gadu-gadu protocol in new version?
18:57:26 <harlock> there is impossible to download contact list from server
18:57:50 <harlock> i know, that is shitty protocol, but very popular in poland
19:00:46 <clokep_work> harlock: We use libpurple for (most) of our protocols.
19:00:56 <clokep_work> Which is the library behind Pidgin.
19:01:17 <clokep_work> So, if they have made improvements they'll be incorporated.
19:01:39 <harlock> i see
19:03:22 <clokep_work> I don't use Gadu-Gadu so I can't really comment much on the issue. :-/ I'd say check the error console and file a bug though and perhaps we can see if it's an Instantbird issue, otherwise we can try to see if there's a ticket open for Pidgin already.
19:12:24 <clokep_work> Sorry that that wasn't much help. :-D
19:23:22 <harlock> using pidgin there is no such a problem and everything works fine
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19:27:42 <clokep_work> harlock: What version of Instantbird are you on?
19:28:10 <harlock> 0.2 (20100712061757)
19:29:01 <clokep_work> Have you tried the beta release? It might fix the issue, I know we updated libpurple a few times this release cycle. (It has version 2.7.11 I believe?)
19:29:39 <harlock> i'll try beta release
19:29:45 <harlock> is it stable?
19:30:04 <clokep_work> It's more stable than 0.2. ;)
19:30:26 <clokep_work> It's pretty much release ready,we just have a few tweaks/oddities that are being finished up.
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19:36:26 <harlock> clokep_work: great, so i will install it for sure ;]
19:36:43 <clokep_work> Haha. OK. :)
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19:37:13 <clokep_work> If there's an issue in that, definitely let us know though! File a bug and include the Instantbird version, any errors in the error console that same related (and maybe the version of Pidgin that it worked in).
19:43:04 <harlock> ok
19:43:06 <harlock> brb
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19:48:14 <deOmega> even though i use IB everyday and take all the daily updates... the  progress that has been made is still astounding to me.   I can only imagine how much more impressive it would be, if  I had agap in usage.
19:53:01 <clokep_work> Hopefully people aren't too freightened by the change!
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19:54:17 <deOmega> ha! it closed down as i was about to respond lol
19:54:23 <deOmega> You scared it
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19:55:14 <clokep_work> Haha. :)
19:55:34 <deOmega> the improvements are all  great
19:57:17 <harlock> re
19:57:50 <clokep_work> I agree, but some people don't like change. :(
19:57:55 <clokep_work> harlock: How's that working?
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20:05:14 <clokep_work> Hmm....deOmega might be crashing when he receives a private message from me...
20:05:29 <deOmega> hey
20:05:49 <deOmega> I sent the report in
20:06:04 <deOmega> interesting
20:06:23 <deOmega> do u have a min for me to try that?
20:06:32 <harlock> it looks nice, but most of extensions are not working yet
20:06:32 <deOmega> test that?
20:06:51 <harlock> speaking about gadu-gadu protocol, still the same
20:07:02 <flo> harlock: which version of pidgin worked?
20:07:27 <harlock> 2.8
20:07:30 <flo> deOmega: can you provide the address of the report? :)
20:07:39 <harlock> but 2.7.x also worked
20:07:51 <flo> 2.7.11 worked?
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20:07:57 <deOmega> address/ lol.  i included my email and deomega :?
20:08:05 <flo> (I know they made major changes to the gadu-gadu plugin between 2.7.11 and 2.8.0)
20:08:44 <clokep_work> deOmega: If you open the Error Console and type "openDialog("about:crashes")" it'll give the crash report IDs.
20:08:52 <clokep_work> (Without the outer set of quotes. :))
20:09:15 <clokep_work> harlock: Which extensions in particular aren't working?
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20:11:10 <deOmega> ID: a6d77d1f-f1ff-4ca8-a739-9932d2110616
20:12:26 <deOmega> man, never looked at those before. provides alot of info
20:12:47 <deOmega> shows all my addons etc
20:13:40 <clokep_work> Yup! :)
20:13:57 <clokep_work> I was able to uniquely identify myself on the mozilla.org crash-stats website using that. :)
20:14:01 <clokep_work> For Thunderbird crash.
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20:14:35 <flo> clokep_work: you were right, caps lock breaks my patch
20:16:02 <clokep_work> flo: :( Although you should be able to do if it == 'c' or (== 'C' && capsLock == true) or something of that sort.
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20:16:35 <flo> clokep_work: I was thinking "if == 'c' || == "C" && !shiftKey
20:18:35 <flo> deOmega: thank you very much for that report!
20:18:40 <flo> This crash will be fixed tomorrow.
20:20:57 <clokep_work> flo: Yes, that should do it.
20:21:23 <flo> clokep_work: I would like to see before what's the default behavior of Ctrl+shift+c
20:21:42 <clokep_work> Also the default behavior of caps lock + ctrl + shift + c? :)
20:21:52 <flo> if it copies, we don't need the !shiftKey test
20:22:45 <clokep_work> Yup! :)
20:22:48 <flo> clokep_work: please avoid sending direct messages to deOmega this evening ;)
20:23:06 <clokep_work> flo: I'll try! :) Is it just from me in particular?
20:23:42 <flo> from buddy not in his buddy list, and because he has a message theme that displays the user icons for each message
20:24:06 <flo> the crash is my bad, a trivial mistake (a missing null check)
20:25:00 <clokep_work> :) Oh hey flo, I meant to ask...can chats have buddy icons? (Re the twitter bug about the topic of the timeline)
20:25:29 <flo> no(t until someone changes that)
20:26:00 <flo> but for the twitter bug I think we can live without the icon for now
20:26:06 <flo> it would be nice to have a topic though :)
20:26:10 <clokep_work> OK!
20:26:14 <clokep_work> I think I have a patch for that then.
20:26:24 <clokep_work> I just need to handle updates from the stream.
20:26:42 <flo> cool :)
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20:26:52 <deOmega> flo: oh Nice.  SO this is an easy fix?  awesome.
20:27:09 <clokep_work> Although I think it'll put an ugly "topic update" message in. :-/ Hmm...we'll see.
20:27:43 <clokep_work> Although maybe not, I forget if you have to do that manually or not.
20:27:56 <clokep_work> Anyway, I'm rambling now and I'm gonna stop.
20:27:57 <flo> deOmega: yes, it's trivial. (I'm not showing it to you because I don't think you understand C++ code with pointers, but really, it's a matter of adding one line)
20:27:58 <instantbot> c++ sucks
20:28:34 <deOmega> ah,  great.  yeah, i would have no idea what  it is anyway.  Thanks for catching it.
20:29:02 <flo> deOmega: I'm glad someone noticed/mentioned it before the release ;)
20:29:55 <clokep_work> Good thing he private messaged me and doesn't have me on his buddy list. :)
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20:30:28 <deOmega> hahaha.   Good thing i do not know what I am doing, so that   the results are pure lol
20:31:31 <deOmega> You do not do the scans in chart format anymore?
20:31:46 <deOmega> Pffft.  wrong window
20:32:41 <clokep_work> No, no. We prefer tabular formats now.
20:33:01 <flo> clokep_work: I think you are right that idechix is not a fan of time bubbles ;)
20:33:15 <deOmega> clokep_work: lol
20:36:01 <deOmega> I am using the satin message style.  it  is pretty nice I think
20:36:35 <clokep_work> flo: Yeah, I'd guess not. Although I don't even notice any difference anymore. :)
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20:37:01 * clokep_work hopes he didn't do that.
20:37:30 <flo> clokep_work: you would probably notice a difference if you used sweet and simple version ;)
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20:37:59 <deOmega> ok, who crashed me?
20:38:42 <flo> deOmega: you should probably use another message theme today, just for safety ;)
20:40:02 <deOmega> this is the new one
20:40:04 <deOmega> ID: eaa2abd7-51d1-4ae7-812a-4ad2e2110616
20:40:32 <deOmega> i had just received a message from someone on facebook.. unless it was one of you messing with me.
20:40:52 <deOmega> this is a godo way to boot someone
20:41:38 <clokep_work> deOmega: I closed your tab, but that shouldn't send an IRC signal to you at al.
20:41:42 <flo> the crash is the same
20:41:55 <deOmega> ok, thanks
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20:43:19 <deOmega> hmm, happened when i  try to send someone a message on facebook.
20:43:21 <flo> so, Command+shift+c doesn't copy
20:43:31 <deOmega> anyway, i am  gonan be done for the day in a while anyway
20:43:42 <deOmega> have a great evening
20:43:47 <flo> good evening :)
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20:43:53 <flo> thanks, and sorry for the inconvenience ;)
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20:44:51 <clokep_work> Does Command+shift+c copy when caps lock is on?
20:45:49 <flo> no
20:46:33 <clokep_work> OK! Soo !shift whould work then.
20:46:39 <flo> yes :)
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20:59:58 <flo> clokep_work: http://pastebin.instantbird.com/782 here is what I have for that caps lock issue. I can't seem to find a good looking indent for it :(
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21:03:14 <clokep_work> flo: Maybe http://pastebin.instantbird.com/783 ?
21:04:18 <flo> looking at the crash stats website, it seems deOmega already had that crash 2 days ago
21:04:43 <clokep_work> :-(
21:04:49 <clokep_work> I have to get going. I'll be back later.
21:04:54 <clokep_work> 'night.
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21:16:08 <flo> I looked at the other crashes
21:16:21 <flo> we have a crash in mintrayr http://crash-stats.instantbird.com/report/index/3da6d4c5-a12b-4142-bbaa-255ad2110615
21:17:12 <flo> and we still have the oscar crash in flap_connection_destroy_cb that we've had for probably over 2 years (http://crash-stats.instantbird.com/report/index/fec24d05-6dce-40d3-b577-815cb2110615)
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22:20:19 <deOmega> hi flo.   I have  had a crash on starting up facebook before.   probably  2 days ago as you said.. but I have had it previously too and i believe i mentioned
22:20:57 <deOmega> However, i assumed it may have been related to all teh programs i had running and then   the load of IB loading the facebook lists etc
22:21:49 <deOmega> I do not recall it crashing on a message though. but then again... I suppose i was not expecting the messages that crashed it :)
22:22:42 <flo> http://crash-stats.instantbird.com/report/list?product=Instantbird&query_search=signature&query_type=exact&query=&date=&range_value=2&range_unit=weeks&process_type=all&plugin_field=&plugin_query_type=&plugin_query=&do_query=1&signature=purpleMessage%3A%3AGetIconURL%28nsACString%26%29
22:22:48 <flo> these 5 crashes are the same
22:22:57 <flo> (and most likely all from you)
22:23:36 <deOmega> hmm.  
22:23:56 <deOmega> My LT memory is fading these days :)
22:24:33 <flo> so you can compare the date/times with what you see in about:crashes and see if you had more
22:25:05 <deOmega> ah, will do that  
22:25:49 <deOmega> yep
22:25:58 <deOmega> that was me inded
22:26:08 <deOmega> and one was 6/1 and 3/3
22:26:35 <deOmega> ID: 4533fde4-f73e-4d3a-ad2c-3fab82110601
22:27:14 <deOmega> ID: 9bf70e93-29e3-463b-999a-60e9c2110303
22:27:17 <deOmega> those are all
22:27:45 <deOmega> besides what you have listed already
22:28:10 <flo> deOmega: ID: 4533fde4-f73e-4d3a-ad2c-3fab82110601 this one is the same again.
22:28:50 <flo> I don't know the cause of the other, but it was in Mozilla code and it's very old already, so it has probably disappeared.
22:29:07 <deOmega> ok.  great
22:30:41 <deOmega> flo.. as it is.. there is no way in the log to  view buddies  where one coudl click on that buddy and see the log, right?  
22:31:05 <deOmega> I know we are not done with the log interface as yet, but wondering if i am overlooking something
22:31:20 <flo> I'm not exactly sure of what you are looking for
22:31:51 <deOmega> ok.. in teh log interface
22:32:02 <deOmega> i am thinkiong of three columns
22:32:23 <deOmega> one show buddies.. the other shoes dates and times.. and the third show the content
22:32:37 <flo> ok, that's not possible yet
22:33:04 <flo> I was wondering if you were talking about bug 294
22:33:07 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=294 min, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Handle the case where no logs are available
22:33:23 <deOmega> ok. i have rightclicked in various places.. thinking  I may be overlooking it.. but  nothing comes up
22:33:25 <deOmega> let me check
22:35:34 <deOmega> ah.    that makes sense..  But indeed was not referring to that as you know
22:48:55 <deOmega> I know a picture is worth a thousand words.. so here is what  I was looking for:  
22:48:58 <deOmega> http://i56.tinypic.com/2rfwk1y.jpg
22:49:30 <deOmega> I Hope my wife  does not see my buddy names.
22:53:56 <flo> :)
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23:03:02 <instantbot> New Instantbird (UI) bug 843 filed by jahkae@gmail.com.
23:03:03 <instantbot> jahkae@gmail.com added attachment 720 to bug 843.
23:03:04 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=843 nor, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, Three column log window
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23:21:15 <instantbot> florian@instantbird.org added attachment 721 to bug 781.
23:21:17 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=781 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Possible to select a non-image file as buddy icon
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23:26:31 <clokep> Bug 803 is probably aero only flo.
23:26:33 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=803 nor, --, ---, benediktp, ASSI, Protocol icons are the wrong size in buddy chooser.
23:26:58 <flo> yes, but I can't find anything in the -aero file that would cause it
23:27:22 <flo> http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/toolkit/themes/winstripe/global/menu-aero.css looks pretty harmless
23:28:06 <clokep> :-/ I'm wondering if the font size on aero is bigger and it's causing the images to stretch.
23:28:22 <harlock> i'm going to sleep
23:28:24 <harlock> bai
23:28:35 <clokep> Bye.
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23:33:12 <flo> clokep: I tried putting a min-height: 50px on the menu item (on both mac and xp). The image is centered, not stretched
23:33:42 <clokep> Hm...I see.
23:34:49 <clokep> I'm out of ideas then. :(
23:35:10 <clokep> Gadu-Gadu really did have a lot of updates in 2.8.0.
23:37:18 <flo> how does this sound for bug 294 http://pastebin.instantbird.com/784 ?
23:37:20 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=294 min, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Handle the case where no logs are available
23:39:17 <clokep> Looks OK, but I'm not very familiar with that code.
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23:39:43 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=841 min, --, ---, clokep, ASSI, Fix Windows Jump List code
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23:41:04 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com granted review for attachment 719 on bug 841.
23:41:34 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com cancelled review?(florian@instantbird .org) for attachment 718 on bug 841.
23:44:24 <clokep> flo: that patch looks good!
23:44:42 <clokep> (The pastebined one.
23:44:42 <flo> the one you just r+ed ? :)
23:44:53 <flo> ah, ok
23:45:02 <clokep> Yeah, sorry. That was vague. :)
23:45:12 <clokep> Obviously the one I just r+ed is good too though! :)
23:45:29 <flo> the patch I pushed yesterday for the join chat / add buddy dialogs wasn't good :-D
23:47:13 <clokep> Oh? What's it do? :(
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23:48:23 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/b5fa7bc7485a - Florian Quèze - Follow-up to 9fb2ea78e742 ('Bug 732 - Add buddy and join chat dialogs poorly positioned when there's no buddy list.') to fix a trivial mistake.
23:48:24 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/6f9c5004f00d - Florian Quèze - Follow-up to 'Bug 693 - Copy paste failures in conversation history.' to handle the caps lock case.
23:48:25 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/8fbb05440f2e - Patrick Cloke - Bug 841 - Fix Windows Jump List code, r=fqueze.
23:48:26 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/9ed9c35acf91 - Florian Quèze - Bug 535 - Use more sensible default database file sizes.
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23:51:53 <Morian> instantbot: don't move!
23:51:56 <instantbot> Morian: Sorry, I've no idea what 'don't move' might be.
23:52:08 <douglaswth> LOL
23:52:12 <Morian> sure you don't...
23:57:58 <instantbot> florian@instantbird.org set the Resolution field on bug 822 to FIXED.
23:58:00 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=822 nor, --, 0.3, florian, RESO FIXED, Elongated status icon