#instantbird log on 06 11 2011

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01:24:07 <instantbot> New Instantbird (UI) bug 837 filed by gustavoadolforivera@gmail.com.
01:24:09 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=837 enh, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, Change to the conversation recently open on IRC
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06:34:49 <flo> so this time, it failed on Windows only ^^
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07:00:50 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/bdd32db44958 - Florian Quèze - Remove call to check-locales.pl (see bug 572224 and bug 572222).
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10:02:53 <FeuerFliege> Hello
10:03:56 <FeuerFliege> I got the mail, that the german localization failed building.
10:04:06 <FeuerFliege> So no german beta?
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10:12:46 <flo> FeuerFliege: fix the files. The beta failed to build on Windows for other reasons that we are still fixing. Don't worry :).
10:13:37 <FeuerFliege> I have just pushed the fixed file.
10:13:50 <FeuerFliege> files ;)
10:16:12 <flo> your langpack was built without warning this time. Thanks for a very quick reaction!
10:16:23 <FeuerFliege> no problem
10:17:36 <flo> by the way, if anybody is interested in inspecting http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/win32-release-0.3b1/builds/5/steps/shell_2/logs/stdio to find serious problems in some localizations, it's possible (that's where I looked to find the problems in the de locale)
10:17:59 <flo> the problems in nl are known (the locale is not complete). I already reported the little warning on the fr locale to vicnet
10:18:56 <flo> the errors looking like "ERROR: argument 3 `d` obsolete at line 196, column 28 within theMsnServerWillShutDownFor" are probably false positives if they are on locales were plurals have more than 2 forms. I'll see later if we can silence out these false positives.
10:19:18 <flo> the warnings like "WARNING: trailing argument 1 `s` missing at line 111, column 43 within msnServersAreCurrentlyBlockingTheFollowing" are potentially serious and could cause crashes.
10:25:36 <FeuerFliege> I'll try to fix the WARNINGs, too.
10:29:09 <flo> they are not in your locale ;)
10:29:16 <flo> you already fixed yours :)
10:31:17 <FeuerFliege> flo: i meant the toolkit/chrome/mozapps Warnings
10:31:37 <flo> are you also the mozilla translator?
10:32:13 <FeuerFliege> no, I have just realized, that this is not in the Instantbird locales ;)
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10:50:58 <flo> here's the list of the problems I found while reading the log: http://pastebin.instantbird.com/761
10:57:12 <FeuerFliege> flo: seems like every locale has some errors.
10:58:29 * flo has just sent emails for the cs, sk and pl locales
11:01:04 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/e4232086e0e0 - Florian Quèze - Attempt to fix the Windows repackaging error.
11:01:51 <flo> I think I'll just fix the typo in the french locale (vicnet seems asleep)
11:04:49 <flo> done
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11:11:29 <Tonnes> good meuning
11:11:44 <Tonnes> or noon etc
11:12:18 <Tonnes> flo: hi, yas, I was awaiting the build result, as you asked yesterday, or the day before :)
11:12:25 <Tonnes> yes^
11:14:14 <Tonnes> oops, just noticed your link showing missing strings
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11:44:30 <Tonnes> connection.error.failedToken=Failed to get request token. - is this ok?
12:02:41 <flo> Tonnes: what seems wrong about it?
12:04:00 <Tonnes> I was wondering about "get request" - is this about getting a "request token"?
12:04:33 <Tonnes> or.. Failed to get token / Failed to request token - you know..
12:08:44 <flo> fr, cs and sk locales now build cleanly
12:09:27 <flo> Tonnes: the "request token" is a technical term of the oauth protocol used by twitter
12:09:41 <Tonnes> clear, thanks :)
12:10:23 <Tonnes> I wonder why I missed all these strings btw.. they did not show up in the local log probably
12:10:40 <flo> and yes, these strings are not very user friendly. We tried to use human friendly strings for the connection progress messages, and technically accurate strings for the unexpected errors (which are rarely displayed)
12:11:23 <flo> Tonnes: I'm not sure of why you missed them. I'm just sure that we should make it harder to miss strings in the future or to have broken locales :). We will definitely improve our tools in the future.
12:17:08 <Tonnes> It may be a local issue here.. standing in the wrong dir (e.g. instantbird\locales\ does not show changes in the purple folde rof course.. However I did change some purple files ..
12:17:55 <Tonnes> no prob though, need new install of HG anyway soon
12:18:40 <flo> nah, it's not your fault, it's human to err. The machine should not. We need to teach the machine to spot our errors quickly :).
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12:46:34 <clokep> The Twitter ones are recent so maybe the build just wasn't up to date? :)
12:48:02 <flo> the windows build machine seems to be making good progress and has already succeeded on a few locales
12:48:26 <flo> I've just tested the Mac and Linux French builds. Minus the typo that I fixed, things seem to work.
12:48:47 <flo> and I'm pretty late :)
12:49:03 * flo goes to the museum to fetch the AMI (I'll need it early tomorrow morning :)).
12:49:08 <flo> back in a few hours :)
12:49:53 <flo> if the windows builds succeed, you will find the repackaged windows build in a new folder inside http://ftp.instantbird.com/instantbird/releases/0.3b1-candidates/
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13:13:31 <harlock> hello
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14:22:16 <Mic2> hi
14:22:21 <Mic2> hello harlock
14:24:55 <Mic2> If you've got any question, suggestions, ideas or anything else you'd like to let us know, just go ahead :)
14:27:13 <Mic2> And if nobody answers it's just because nobody's active at the moment, in this case just check back later if someone's around then
14:27:25 <Mic2> I'll be away again now, have a nice day
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14:57:16 <Tonnes> argh.. auth failed
15:04:32 <Tonnes> flo: u there?
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17:24:53 <igorko> is b1 for win32 already built?
17:34:46 <tymerkaev> igorko: http://ftp.instantbird.com/instantbird/releases/0.3b1-candidates/2011-06-11-13-instantbird/
17:35:43 <igorko> thanks
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17:41:14 <igorko> it rocks! ;)
17:41:54 <igorko> hm-OSCAR doesn't connec
17:41:58 <igorko> t
17:44:21 <igorko> old ssl bug...
17:44:24 <igorko> fixed
17:45:48 <igorko> still cna't connect :(
17:45:53 <igorko> can't*
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17:47:48 <flo> Tonnes: have you seen the log for your changes (http://pastebin.instantbird.com/762) ?
17:51:14 <igorko> flo could you rty connect o icq in beta1 ?
17:51:17 <igorko> try*
17:51:32 <igorko> i have problems with this
17:51:59 <flo> igorko: later this evening
17:52:03 <igorko> ok
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18:40:31 <harlock> Mic2: ok ;)
18:40:51 <harlock> i'm just testing instantbird
18:41:23 <harlock> i'm looking for alternative for miranda im
18:53:07 <harlock> i got to go
18:53:09 <harlock> see ya
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19:51:42 <flo> has anybody tested some localized windows build?
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20:12:24 <flo> igorko: I can connect to ICQ only if I uncheck "use clientLogin" and select "don't use encryption"
20:13:37 <igorko> and changing slogin to login?
20:13:50 <igorko> i can't anyway
20:14:15 <igorko> connecting stucks at "username sent..."
20:18:31 <flo> igorko: I kept slogin.icq.com
20:26:59 <igorko> crap- dunno why it doesn't work :(
20:27:18 <igorko> it worked in 0.3 alfa3pre
20:28:26 <flo> apparently given what I read from Pidgin developers, it seems ICQ was broken for almost everybody yesterday, and today it works again for most people, but not everybody.
20:28:34 <flo> The problem seems to be on the ICQ servers side
20:28:54 <flo> + the disabled the clientLogin key of libpurple and Adium (Pidgin's key still work).
20:29:12 <flo> But in Instantbird by default we disabled "clientLogin", so that last part doesn't matter much to us currently :)
20:29:51 <igorko> shit
20:29:54 <igorko> i fixed it
20:30:11 <igorko> i got working with login.icq.net
20:30:45 <igorko> i enabled clientLogin and app returned error "blablabla login.icq.net"
20:30:58 <igorko> so i tried login.icq.net and it works
20:31:15 <igorko> :)
20:31:21 <flo> it's likely to return a blahblah containing the word "devId", which means they key libpurple provides is no longer accepted
20:31:46 <flo> have you tried the windows repackaged build for your locale?
20:32:33 <igorko> i'm using http://ftp.instantbird.com/instantbird/releases/0.3b1-candidates/2011-06-11-13-instantbird/
20:32:40 <igorko> uk version-installer
20:33:30 <igorko> yes- it returns invalid devID but for "api.login.icq.net" :) not for .com
20:36:54 <flo> tymerkaev_away: I think I forgot to email you to tell you that the new version of our l10n scripts found a missing string in your locale: "Info" in instantbird/updater/updater.ini
20:37:22 <flo> igorko: so the installer works as expected? :)
20:38:05 <igorko> i dunno how expected ;)
20:38:12 <igorko> but it works :)
20:38:46 <igorko> installer is localized if you mean this
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20:41:16 <flo> "expected" = installer is localized, the installed version starts, works fine, and is localized :)
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20:51:06 <tymerkaev> flo: fixed
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20:51:58 <flo> tymerkaev: thanks! :)
20:52:04 <tymerkaev> np
20:57:06 <flo> I'm afraid we have lots of mistakes in strings that have plural forms :(
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22:11:11 <igorko> flo i just pusged some fixes for installer
22:11:22 <igorko> pushed*
22:11:53 <igorko> mostly conjugation of words...
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23:19:05 <flo> good night
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